PAVEMENT VS SOUNDGARDEN

Cause they tied in that recent dumb guitar poll

Soundgarden >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pavement

BIG DUMB POLL

all guitar bands are interchangeable

Really like Pavement. Fucking love Soundgarden.

Really like Pavement. Fucking love Soundgarden.

(sry)

In my stranger moments I’d like to hear Matt Cameron on Slanted and Enchanted-era Pavement

both great but come on now

Ha, I actually don't know which one you prefer.

It's tough but I don't think I can vote against the number of times I listened to Badmotorfinger and Superunknown.

Both great

Me Age 19-25: Soundgarden
Me Age 26-44: Pavement
Me Age 45-47: Soundgarden

this reminds me that i need to post something unrelated

the fall vs REM

Me Age 15-19: Soundgarden
Me Age 20-25: Pavement
Me Age 26-the grave: Soundgarden

Soundgarden is probably better, but I'm more likely to throw on Pavement these days.

lol, Simon pretty close to the mark except I'd probably constrict my Pavement period even further, probably like 3-4 years tops.

Pavement was never as important to me as Badmotorfinger was during my early high school years.

I checked the 90s list I posted here in the early 00s, thinking that might have been around the time when I was most likely to pick Pavement but, nope.

Come to think of it, I bet I got my Down on the Upside and Brighten the Corners tapes a few months apart, ages 9-10. Seems like a turning point in hindsight.

badmotorfinger is a mighty force & was a massive moment but I get off the train after that whereas Pavement made a bunch of records I like

Soundgarden

joantm

pavement not close

I have never knowingly heard Soundgarden and Pavement ist rad

how in the hell have you not heard Soundgarden

Idk if the offer was ever made, but soundgarden would’ve killed it better on Space Ghost

I voted, but I can't check back when the poll ends in case y'all get this super-duper wrong

pavement

I've never made it through a whole Pavement song. I listen to Soundgarden a couple of times a month, and they're one of the bands I genuinely regret never having seen live.

they’re both bad, i choose death

“Death by PAVEMENT & SOUNDGARDEN!”

https://images.app.goo.gl/PGJuqTmbWYU2QMwr6

Poncey Cali kids vs unwashed riffage

soundgarden, what a good band

ALIVE in the superunknown

Pavement always seemed overrated yet very good to me. Not quite as good as people wanted them to be. But my kid has discovered them and I'm listening with new ears and I'm surprised how much I like them as a guitar riff band, always appreciated them more for the words and mangled hooks. Still, Badmotorfinger.

Apples vs hand grenades. One can blow stuff up, but the other can stave off scurvy 🤔

Another very easy poll to vote in.

have only heard a few pavement songs and hated them vs one of my favorite (if not my fav) bands

Me Age 19-25: Soundgarden
Me Age 26-44: Pavement
Me Age 45-47: Soundgarden

― Mazzy Tsar (PBKR), Saturday, December 14, 2019 9:45 PM (two days ago) bookmarkflaglink

with slightly different age brackets, same for me ^

I've kept trying to get into Soundgarden over the past 30 years and they're obviously talented and all, but very few of their songs ever stick with me. I think I just don't dig their overall sound.

I don't listen to Pavement very often either, but their songs are much more likely to be rattling around in my head.

As much as I love Pavement, it's SG all the way here.

Would you rather walk:

a) on a pavement
b) through a soundgarden

Go back to those my waves

It's really a shame that I have a vivid imagination for nonexistent music but no actual musical ability because I just spontaneously whipped up a killer Soundgarden cover of 'Grounded' and I wish I could share it with u all.

I'd rather listen to Pavement cover Soundgarden than Soundgarden cover Pavement any day of the week.

which band would people suppose combines the most prominent elements of Pavement (cutesy college literate stoniness and sloppy/skewed riffz) with those of Soundgarden (shirtless singer screeching and wah-wah pedalled distortion in exotic time signatures)? I can't think of anything

I did think of a Pavement: Soundgarden:: Can: Led Zep analogy though

Soundgarden ain't gonna be covering Pavement anytime soon

NOW I KNOW WHY
YOU'VE BEEN SHAKINGGGG

I love Soundgarden in small doses (Badmotorfinger, mainly) but a little Cornell sure goes a long way. I've missed the boat with Pavement.

cornell's vox honestly the biggest hurdle for me, when he gets up in that choked-off fake-scream register its just game over for me, cant help but find it corny. maybe i just cant separate it from the era, a lot of unfortunate choices made by male vocalists in that time & scene. i say this realizing that malkmus doesnt exactly have golden pipes himself, but cornell always sounds like he's singing while trying to twist the lid off a really tight jar.

"Slaves and Bulldozers" a pretty good argument for Thayil as an effective strange guitarist, actually.

I do think the guitars tend to stand out more in Pavement's music, esp since with the less, uh, ambitious rhythm section and not-exactly-golden pipes, the guitars really have a lot of space to carry the music.

I would start with “Loud Love” and “hands all over”

and after that feel free to stop

lol

you two disappoint me

sorry I have no burning need for gurning clangy prog-metal

What do u have a burning need for? How can we turn that frown upside down

What about Groove Denied vs the Timbaland record?

currently I have a burning need for mid-50s small jazz combos w/vocals fwiw

why not both?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jazz-Iz-Christ

obligatory Jazz-Iz-Christ Pose joek

Hey Οὖτις, have you heard the Jazzmeia Horn album from this year? Great vocals, kinda Betty Carter-ish. Small group. Some spiritual moments. I like it a lot.

i mention this in every soundgarden thread but they’re such a great band that even their reunion record stands up with their earlier stuff

ofc we’ll never know what a pavement reunion record would be like (probably good bc if anything i think malkmus has become a better songwriter and guitar player since but also what would be the point)

Things I like in metal = velocity and/or tunes

So Soundgaiden don't really do it for me

Oh god yeah the sunging is pretty bad too, sorry he's dead but I ugh hate that kinda voice

soundgarden are so rich with tunes that i can’t wrap my head around that

“You think it’s just all about class misery and factories, even some sort of situationist/surrealist thing,” he says of his 1980s influences. “It’s kind of stoner music that you don’t realize it is.”

https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/vbwkwb/why-indie-rock-fifty-somethings-are-going-synthpop

I don't know Brad I've never given them a fair shake but they've always sounded lumpen and um grungey to me

Lumpen, eh? Sounds like you hate the proletariat.

As a side note, do Brits hate grunge more than Americans like britpop?

idk noodle this is just hook after hook for me, while also being in 5/4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEbYxEXM2cE

once again, matt cameron *heart eyes emoji*

OK I still find his voice hard going but there's a level of psychedelic loveliness in that track

that's what soundgarden is all about!

Same

Wonder what NV thinks of as a tune

I dunno man, a lot of NWOBHM stuff and early 80s thrash is pretty songy to me in a way I don't hear in a lot of post-grunge or po-faced Metal from the 90s on but I totally accept I'm idiosyncratic about this, oh yeah also Accept rule

Fitting, I've been thinking of nailing my roommates balls to the wall all morning

Accept (with Udo, anyway) > Soundgarden >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Pavement

Hey Οὖτις, have you heard the Jazzmeia Horn album from this year? Great vocals, kinda Betty Carter-ish. Small group. Some spiritual moments. I like it a lot.

thx I'll look it up. I like Carter fine but am thinking more along the lines of Chet Baker, Helen Merrill, Blossom Dearie etc.

Maybe you can start a thread?

hm I thought there was one but can't seem to find it

oh here it is Jazz Vocalists - CD/SD

OK I still find his voice hard going but there's a level of psychedelic loveliness in that track

― Kebabs Windsor (Noodle Vague), Friday, January 3, 2020 11:04 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Soundgarden always had a touch of psychedelia, but it became more pronounced when Ben Sheppard joined and metastasized on Superunknown and Down on the Upside as he wrote more stuff. Head Down, 4th of July, Half, Like Suicide are all pretty psychedelic. I mean Black Hole Sun, as much as it is totally worn out for me, is a grungy take on a Magical Mystery Tour era-Lennon tune.

Screaming Trees did psych-grunge better imo

screaming trees were fucking great but again: come on

I have a soft spot for Screaming Trees but talk about a lack of songs.

They have their major label moments, but the best Screaming Trees songs are on the SST albums, no question.

the day somebody makes it all the way to the end of a screaming trees album they will be awarded a prize. the prize has gone unclaimed for years

that shit is mine in 2020

the trees were just kinda riff-poor

and stink-rich

I like Screaming Trees more than both of these bands

Buzz Factory >>>>

They have their major label moments, but the best Screaming Trees songs are on the SST albums, no question.

― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Friday, January 3, 2020 9:28 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

the day somebody makes it all the way to the end of a screaming trees album they will be awarded a prize. the prize has gone unclaimed for years

― she carries a torch. two torches, actually (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, January 4, 2020 12:59 AM (ten hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I think the best Screaming Trees songs are on their Change Has Come EP on SubPop. It was the first ST record I ever got and I loved it - it's one of my favorite records of the era - but it's the only one I've ever made it through without yawning/shrugging at some point. I think there are so many bands that are really suited to releasing EPs, but people just default to albums for the most part. I don't know whether this is due more to profitability or artistic hubris or what.

I still don’t like Dust as much as most critics seemed to in 1996; still sounds patchy to me

show me a word that rhymes that soundgarden, and I won't kill your family