Rockist Bubblegum: Find me some!

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Inspired by an offhand comment by Tom on the Hanson vs. Strokes thread.

I've decided that Rockist Bubblegum would be my most perfect music genre EVAH. So you find me some examples you think will fit the wonderful music I can already hear in my head...

― kate, Thursday, 21 November 2002 23:57 (twenty-three years ago)

And no, the new Britney single with BRMC as her hired backing band does NOT count.

― kate, Thursday, 21 November 2002 23:58 (twenty-three years ago)

err i was gonna say "strokes of genius" but instead i'll just get my coat.

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 22 November 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

OBVIOUSLY ALL IS RULED BY HANSON THE THREAD IS OVER.

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 22 November 2002 00:06 (twenty-three years ago)

Inspired by an offhand comment by Tom on the Hanson vs. Strokes thread

Dammit, that's my line! I was just using it to describe his dilemma. ;-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 22 November 2002 00:07 (twenty-three years ago)

At the risk of lapsing into the predictable to the point of parody, I must ask... could there ever be a better example of rockist bubblegum than.....

http://www.onethirtyeight.com/images/82_photo.gif

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 22 November 2002 00:10 (twenty-three years ago)

And posting pictures of the Leningrad Cowboys helps us ... how?

― kaet, Friday, 22 November 2002 00:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Oops, sorry, Ned! Didn't realise that it was yours... still sheer genius.

Hrmm, I'll have to have a word with the 80s Matchbox B-Line Disaster's press agent about these new publicity photos they're using, I'm really not sure about them...

― kate, Friday, 22 November 2002 00:13 (twenty-three years ago)

Just a warning, Kate....when you mock the Misfits, they're likely to get their Ouija boards, wolf's blood and voodoo gear out and put a hex on you. Sleep soundly.

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 22 November 2002 00:16 (twenty-three years ago)

erm... but not Andrew WK? Isn't that his schtick... he's pop AND he's metal/rock?

― Aaron W, Friday, 22 November 2002 00:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Alex, sweetie, I've been mocking the Misfits since about 1985. Hrmmm, maybe that's why the string of bad luck...

ROCKIST bubblegum, Aaron, not Metal Bubblegum, or I'd be singing the praises of Hanoi Rocks. (Which I do quite enough already, thanks.)

― kate, Friday, 22 November 2002 00:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Hahaha, you and I have got to get together Alex.

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 22 November 2002 00:21 (twenty-three years ago)

Uh, um, Redd Kross, um.

Did you ever hear the post-Les McKeown Rollers album Elevator? The lyrics are all "so you take another lude and you shoot another dime/cause you're ego's on the line" and "ride my elevator/don't say no to my escalator/ride!" It's really great.

― Arthur (Arthur), Friday, 22 November 2002 00:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Redd Kross, perfect. Now you're getting into the spirit of things! More, more!

― kate, Friday, 22 November 2002 00:40 (twenty-three years ago)

The Cars' first album? Yeah yeah I know "new wave" and blah de blah but come on, "You're All I've Got Tonight"...!

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Friday, 22 November 2002 00:42 (twenty-three years ago)

No. Has to be more bubblegum. I want long, flowing blow-dried locks that teenage girls can scream over. Redd Kross make it because of their hair as much as their music.

― kate, Friday, 22 November 2002 00:44 (twenty-three years ago)

the answer is here:

http://yoga.tripod.co.jp/flash/kikkomaso.swf

― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 22 November 2002 01:08 (twenty-three years ago)

I love you, Alex.

― Ally (mlescaut), Friday, 22 November 2002 01:09 (twenty-three years ago)

The Joneses! From California!

― matt riedl (veal), Friday, 22 November 2002 20:25 (twenty-three years ago)

um, the Lollies?

― hahah you walked right into that one, Friday, 22 November 2002 21:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Teenage girls don't scream over us, man. I wish they did. Generally, they go "god, that's my fucking life" and go back to blogging.

I thought of the most perfect rockist bubblegum band in the world this morning, but it was while I was not allowing to listen to music, so it faded from my head. :-(

― kate, Friday, 22 November 2002 22:04 (twenty-three years ago)

ooh ooh comet gain

― s magnet, Friday, 22 November 2002 22:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Maybe Rocket from the Crypt? But I think they get no ILM love.

― wl (wl), Saturday, 23 November 2002 00:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Anthony Miccio, Donut Bitch, Diego and I all exist as the contradiction to this 'no ILM love' claim, m'friend. :-)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 23 November 2002 00:27 (twenty-three years ago)

The Raspberries?

― jm, Saturday, 23 November 2002 01:31 (twenty-three years ago)

I just discovered the Raspberries - ohmigod "Overnight Sensation" is some kind of bubblerock masterpiece. Best transistor-radio compression in a song EVAH (as the ILMers say).

― Shakey Mo Collier, Saturday, 23 November 2002 01:34 (twenty-three years ago)

"Life Is a Rock (But the Radio Rolled Me)" by Reunion is lyrically rockist. And "Middle of the Road" by Denim is rockist ABOUT bublegum. But I have the feeling this is not what you want.

― felicity (felicity), Saturday, 23 November 2002 03:21 (twenty-three years ago)

rockist bubblegum that comes to mind: the first half of REM's "Green." Kix (first two albums especially). RFTC's "RFTC". Hell, most rock'n'roll that's in a pleasant mood and includes gibberish could qualify.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 23 November 2002 18:41 (twenty-three years ago)

The Jesus and Mary Chain (duh)

― Curt (cgould), Saturday, 23 November 2002 20:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Helen Love (duh)

― Curt (cgould), Saturday, 23 November 2002 20:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Rockist Bubblegum...BAH.
I'm waiting for "Popist" Hardcore.

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Sunday, 24 November 2002 02:16 (twenty-three years ago)

http://yoga.tripod.co.jp/flash/kikkomaso.swf
Alex...this is, without a doubt, the most disturbingly hilarious thing I've been exposed to all year.
But its refreshing to know that:
a) Japan has their own equivalent to Taco the Wonder Dog, and
b) He does his own videos.

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Sunday, 24 November 2002 02:20 (twenty-three years ago)

The mystifyingly underappreciated Muffs and old Groovie Ghoulies (haven't heard their newer stuff).

― dan (dan), Sunday, 24 November 2002 02:51 (twenty-three years ago)

the contradiction to this 'no ILM love' claim, m'friend.

Late reply, but I was just going on the largely pejorative stuff that was said on a recent Drive Like Jehu thread... But my memory is going these days.

― wl (wl), Sunday, 24 November 2002 16:08 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...

Revive!

― Super-Kate (kate), Monday, 29 March 2004 09:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Even though this thread was rubbish because the most rockist bubblegum band since Hanson was launched a few months prior and none of us even mentioned them.

― Super-Kate (kate), Monday, 29 March 2004 09:43 (twenty-two years ago)

The Lollies were the best. Bring back The Lollies!!!!

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 29 March 2004 10:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Hush up. I'm too old for that sort of thing, and besides, it wouldn't happen without Jane. Sigh.

I am, however, starting to toy with the idea of turning into a songwriter/producer/svengali and putting together my own boy or girlgroup. It can't be that hard...

― Super-Kate (kate), Monday, 29 March 2004 10:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Rockist Bubblegum...hmmm, maybe the Ramones?

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 29 March 2004 10:17 (twenty-two years ago)

How about "Frosting" era Posies?

― Rob M (Rob M), Monday, 29 March 2004 10:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Rockist bubblegum = Evanescence, "Bring Me To Life". Those chord progressions! It's like early Britney gone goth.

Also, Avril.

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 29 March 2004 10:41 (twenty-two years ago)

The Ramones, sure.

Definitely Avril.

Kate, you should get together with a couple of producer/engineer types and create the next Avril - only a boy version.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 29 March 2004 10:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Avril, FEH! FEH! FEH!!! A skeeve to you.

I mean, I see your point, but FEH!

I wouldn't make a boy version of Avril, what would be the point? What I would want to do is make a version of Avril that wasn't utterly repugnant to actual rock chiXors.

― Super-Kate (kate), Monday, 29 March 2004 10:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Describe this superbeing.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 29 March 2004 10:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Liz Phair!

Oh, wait.

― The Lex (The Lex), Monday, 29 March 2004 10:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Hello! Madonna!

There have been plenty of girlgroups that have actually appealed to girls. In fact, the vast history of girl groups - from the Shangri-Las to the Spice Girls was about capturing the female market. The perve value was secondary. I don't know, that could be my own prejudices.

Girl groups have been dumbed down and blanded up until they are indistinguishable as pornstars. Which is never going to appeal to actual women. Anyway... this is getting off topic.

― Super-Kate (kate), Monday, 29 March 2004 11:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Kate, if I can help you in this venture in any way, let me know. My credentials include starting the first Busted thread on ILM in disgust.

― Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Monday, 29 March 2004 11:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Kate! I just woke up from a dream! You were saying that you had been through a year in which you had been struck by lightning and your house had burned down. Your assessment: "silver hairs among the gold". Please interpret.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 29 March 2004 13:15 (twenty-two years ago)

Anyway, I have the name for this new artist, thanks to DV: Chernobyl Biker Woman.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 29 March 2004 13:20 (twenty-two years ago)

That wasn't a dream, Colin, while in a dream, you astrally projected into my actual life. ;-)

(I always wonder what my brain actually did when I went into programming-not-paying-attention-mode. And now I know. It wanders around the world getting into other people's dreams...)

― Super-Kate (kate), Monday, 29 March 2004 13:26 (twenty-two years ago)

What did you mean when you said 'sliver hairs among the gold'?

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 29 March 2004 13:30 (twenty-two years ago)

'sliver' = 'silver'.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 29 March 2004 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Silver hairs among the gold means that I'm getting old. I think it's slang for mutton dressed up as lamb. Or Whitney dressed as Britney. Sigh. The awful thing is... I didn't actually *find* my actual silver hairs until I stopped bleaching my hair. More reason to carry on bleaching, then...

― Super-Kate (kate), Monday, 29 March 2004 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Aha. It does have something to do with aging then, I was wondering. I also thought it seemed to be a stoic, philosophical assessment, something along the lines of 'lots of great experiences (gold) and some not-so-great ones (silver), but that's a typical head of hair for ya'.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 29 March 2004 13:44 (twenty-two years ago)

alright then, back to bed for me. To dream, perhaps, of Chernobyl Biker Woman.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 29 March 2004 13:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah, I like your explanation better than my Whitney dressed as Britney.

Now back to the topic at hand! And the latest development is trying to figure out how it is that Busted are turning into Sloan since curse Noodles for pointing out the resemblence between Eyebrows and Andrew and their band-wrecking ways...

― Super-Kate (kate), Monday, 29 March 2004 13:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Even their names...

Eyebrows = Andrew
Matty = Patty
James = Jay

JESUS DO THEY HAVE TO EVEN RIP OFF ROCKIST BUBBLEGUM BOYBANDS FROM CANPOP SUPERSTARS?!?!? JUST COME UP WITH YOUR OWN ARCHETYPES ALREADY, JEEEEEEZZZZ!!!

::OK, Kate, put the cup down and back away from the coffeemaker now::

― Super-Kate (kate), Monday, 29 March 2004 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I always ruin my own threads, don't I? Sigh.

― Super-Kate (kate), Monday, 29 March 2004 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

JUST COME UP WITH YOUR OWN ARCHETYPES ALREADY

Kate, this is a contradiction in terms. You are asking the impossible.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Monday, 29 March 2004 20:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Argh. I called the Vines singles' "reckless bubblegum" in an article I've submitted to the Voice. I wish I'd said rockist bubblegum! that's what they are!

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 29 March 2004 21:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Hey yeah! They are definitely rockist bubblegum. As are Jet.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 02:24 (twenty-two years ago)

Go-Go's?
Pooh Sticks?
"The Rapper" by the Jaggerz?
"Gimme Gimme Good Lovin'" by Crazy Elephant?
Iggy's version of "Real Wild Child"?

― Rickey Wright (Rrrickey), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 06:39 (twenty-two years ago)

If The Vines are rockist bubblegum, then I'm Britney Spears. NEXT!

― Super-Kate (kate), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 07:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Super-Kate, you obviously rock, so why aren't you rocking? It's puzzling. Too old is no excuse. Is Iggy too old? I think not.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 08:06 (twenty-two years ago)

I just found out that Toni Basil was older than me when she had her first chart hit... that's given me some hope. (And BTW, Iggy is too old. He has to have his children tell him who to work with!)

But these days I want to be the Power Behind The Throne, rather than sit on the throne. I want to work at the bubblegum factory and manufacture my own band.

― Super-Kate (kate), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 08:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Crapola. You want to be on stage a Wemb-er-ley. And you should be. And you know it.

― the music mole (colin s barrow), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 08:52 (twenty-two years ago)

ummm...rockist bubblegum? isn't that like everything good ever?

The Ramones, Joan Jett & The Blackhearts, The Darkness, Jesus & Mary Chain (only the most yum yum chew chew suck suck candy candy band since the Archies), Redd Kross, Donnas, Supercharger, The Monks (both the Limeys and the GI's) & The Monkees, Sonic Youth's "Goo" & "Dirty", The Dave Clark 5, Def Leppard, Vaselines, The Cars, Nikki Corvette, "Septembet Gurls", Strangeloves, Bow Wow Wow, "Life Is A Rock But The Radio Rolled Me" by Reunion, "Black Betty" by Ram Jam, CCR, The White Stripes' singles, "Country Grammar" by Nelly by way of "Shimmy Shimmy Ko Ko Bop" by Little Anthony & The Imperials, Gary Glitter, "Hocus Pocus" by Focus, Nick Gilder, "Licensed To Ill", "Roxy Roller" by Sweeney Todd, "Bread & Butter" by The Newbeats, Johnny Kidd & The Pirates, Motorhead/Girlschool duets, "Rumours" by Fleetwood Mac, Usher's new single w/ Ludacris & lil Jon, Trio - "Da Da Da", "Jet" by Wings, "Down Down" by Status Quo, Elastica, The Undertones, Young MC, etc etc etc

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 14:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Why is it that so many people answering this question get so hung up on the rockist bit that they forget WHAT BUBBLEGUM EVEN IS. Sigh.

I'm not just talking "catchy rock music" I'm talking ACTUAL ROCKIST BUBBLEGUM.

― Super-Kate (kate), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

maybe you should let us in on what you mean by tACTUAL ROCKIST BUBBLEGUM then.

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 17:50 (twenty-two years ago)

"Actual Rockist Bubblegum" sounds very stereolab b-side

― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)

kimono my house

― Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 18:07 (twenty-two years ago)

The Doors' "Hello I Love You"

― Matos W.K. (M Matos), Tuesday, 30 March 2004 18:23 (twenty-two years ago)

seven months pass...

the sweet

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 18 November 2004 14:09 (twenty-one years ago)

ok, any band with distorted guitars and a super catchy tune then.

― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 18 November 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

THE DONNAS

― The Lex (The Lex), Thursday, 18 November 2004 14:41 (twenty-one years ago)

ok, any band with distorted guitars and a super catchy tune then.

au contraire. the sweet had the long hair and the cute teen-magazine faces, which, if you read the rest of the thread, you'll see is a core criteria hair. also, the sweet had nothing but super catchy tunes with distorted guitars.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 18 November 2004 15:59 (twenty-one years ago)

core criteria HERE. d'oh.

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Thursday, 18 November 2004 16:08 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm so ashamed. "What Katie Did" is the most rockist bubblegum I've heard all year.

― The Grain of Sand in Lambeth That Satan Cannot Find (kate), Thursday, 18 November 2004 16:21 (twenty-one years ago)

The Rubinoos - "I Wanna Be Your Boyfriend"

― Mike O. (Mike Ouderkirk), Thursday, 18 November 2004 22:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Search: Shaun Cassidy, who scored a huge hit with top all-time rockist anthem "That's Rock & Roll." As pure a bubblegum teen idol as ever chirped, on a ceaseless quest for rockist cred. He always covered old boomer classics, and his biggest hits were Eric Carmen songs. This quixotic journey down the road of rockism culminated in the Todd Rundgren-produced Wasp, where he did "Rebel Rebel" and "So Sad About Us," among others. And gosh was he cute.

― briania (briania), Thursday, 18 November 2004 22:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Shonen Knife?

― Tim E. (Shroomy), Friday, 19 November 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Surely someone has mentioned Kiss?

― My Son Calls Another Man Dadaismus (Dada), Friday, 19 November 2004 09:57 (twenty-one years ago)

The Push Kings, FEEL NO FADE. Chirping about how wasted they are; I think their drug of choice is PolyVinylChloride. Exactly the sort of sound Greg Shaw claimed to hear in his Jukebox Jury columns, in early 70s Creem. Maybe he was right, at least if he precogged this, from 1999, I think. Big in Japan, they claimed! (Also, who was it did "Butterfly": "Come Come m'ladeh"? In the video, they lurched through a Littlest Mermaid-type animated Eden, all in their black t-shirts, short black-dyed hairspikes, eyeliner, piercings, tannings, etc.!)

― don, Friday, 19 November 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)

the sweet

― peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 19 November 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

Also, who was it did "Butterfly": "Come Come m'ladeh"?

so that's what that song's called. crazy town!

― fact checking cuz (fcc), Friday, 19 November 2004 19:20 (twenty-one years ago)

fcc and pete smith otm

― Ken L (Ken L), Friday, 19 November 2004 19:55 (twenty-one years ago)

oh - sorry - i didnt see that FCC had already posted the sweet. anyway, its true.

― peter smith (plsmith), Friday, 19 November 2004 22:00 (twenty-one years ago)

To add to the Shaun Cassidy rockist lore--he had an LA glam/punk band before he hit it big. I think they were called Lancelot. Very Stooges influenced. They opened for the Stooges, in fact, at Rodney Bingenheimer's English Disco. I remember seeing pictures of him in Rock Scene wearing white riding pants, shirtless with a bow tie around his neck.

― Titsy Borgnine (Arthur), Saturday, 20 November 2004 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

Green Day?

― Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Saturday, 20 November 2004 01:53 (twenty-one years ago)

Tommy James and the Shondells certainly *rocked* tha bubblegum, but I guess they didn't project rockist, hey-we're-rockin', give-it-up-type vibes.(I thought of the first Kiss LP as rockin bubblegum, and they had the attitude, so I guess they do count as "ist" too.) Did Shaun? Speaking of that era, Creem also used to hype the Hollywood Stars, who, one correspondent corresponded, "have my gay friends creaming and my Creem friends gay with their good looks," and I think they even put out an album! Anybody know anythin' about 'em, incl. possible Kim Fowley involvement? (he put the Runaways together I think)(they weren't catchy enough, unless you count "Cherry Bomb." as bubblegum)

― don, Saturday, 20 November 2004 02:17 (twenty-one years ago)

AEROSMITH

― m0stly clean (m0stly clean), Saturday, 20 November 2004 04:36 (twenty-one years ago)

Aerosmith from when? All eras? They do seem to have all-ages appeal, at least the more recent CDs did, when I sold 'em to beaming families, in the store where i used to work (sigh, I miss the Christmas crush).

― don, Saturday, 20 November 2004 05:16 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, I remember the Hollywood Stars, Don. I think Kim worked with them just prior to the Runaways and then lost interest and decided to focus on the girls and punkier stuff like Venus & the Razorblades and the Orchids. Have you ever heard the Orchids first single, "If Boys Had Babies"? It's fantastic! Anyway, according to Google, the Hollywood Stars put out their Kim-produced debut on Arista in '77. I think I'd lost interest in that sort of band by then, though. The single was called "All the Kids on the Street", that sounds sort of familiar. I probably thought it was icky power pop at the time. I'm sure I'd love it now.

― Titsy Borgnine (Arthur), Saturday, 20 November 2004 05:26 (twenty-one years ago)

three years pass...

Jaggerz: The Rapper is absolutely brilliant. Did Donnie Iris ever do anything as good again?

― LATIN CAPITAL LETTER Ǉ (libcrypt), Sunday, 12 October 2008 06:51 (seventeen years ago)

three years pass...

I'm really into this style right now.

This is brilliant. The kids used to go nuts when they played this at the roller rink.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gadhmsn2iaQ

― โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Colored on TV! (Mount Cleaners), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:30 (fourteen years ago)

O.M.G. The suits. The shirts. The eyeshadow.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-c8X52Qg4o

― โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Colored on TV! (Mount Cleaners), Tuesday, 20 March 2012 12:59 (fourteen years ago)

THE SWEET.

― White Chocolate Cheesecake, Tuesday, 20 March 2012 13:13 (fourteen years ago)

eight months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW0CRvFIPfw&playnext=1&list=PL79CCC53158804EBE&feature=results_video

Osmonds' "The Plan"....great!!!

― โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Italo Night at Some Gay Club (Mount Cleaners), Sunday, 2 December 2012 13:44 (thirteen years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tW0CRvFIPfw

"Movie Man"...from "The Plan".

― โตเกียวเหมียวเหมียว aka Italo Night at Some Gay Club (Mount Cleaners), Sunday, 2 December 2012 13:45 (thirteen years ago)

First Stooges lp which is that plus extremely bored sounding vocals. but oh, so cool.

& something else entirely in the original John Cale mix

― Stevolende, Sunday, 2 December 2012 20:01 (thirteen years ago)

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