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what do you understand by this?

― gareth (gareth), Sunday, 24 November 2002 17:55 (twenty-three years ago)

In recent terms, seems like it could apply to a fair amount of the World Serpent wing (and I saw you just revived the Coil thread ;-)). But there are many ways to take this, the more I think about it, hm...Robin C to thread!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Sunday, 24 November 2002 18:17 (twenty-three years ago)

http://www.forteantimes.com/exclusive/wicker/cover.jpg

― Jerry the Nipper (Jerrynipper), Sunday, 24 November 2002 18:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Boy Scouts Of America by St Et. Possibly.

― alexfack (alexfack), Sunday, 24 November 2002 18:47 (twenty-three years ago)

'We Love Life'?
Boards of Canada have the presence of a nameless dread humming through their bucolical music.

― DavidM (DavidM), Sunday, 24 November 2002 18:47 (twenty-three years ago)

late night rustling sounds please

― gareth (gareth), Sunday, 24 November 2002 18:52 (twenty-three years ago)

comus' first album "first utterance". bloody terrifying in places. the second one equally as scarey because they seem to just have become all hippy drippy flower children overnight. i found this quote online by one greg breth (who he?) - and it's all pretty true - : "has the most mad and demented atmosphere of any LP of its type. The vocals sound like flipped-out gnomes and trolls having a horrible acid experience, and the playing gives off an atmosphere of being stranded out on the moors knowing that an axe murderer is on the prowl! Don’t play this if you’re in an edgy state of mind--you may not be responsible for your actions during and afterwards. Fantastic cover that illustrates the beauty to be found in ugliness. Charming lyrics as well; they sing about being locked in an asylum, terrorizing those who judge one solely on looks and all manners of lost love in the Gothic UK style of romanticism. As someone recently said, I’d love to see the movie that looks like this sounds!"

― chris browning (commonswings), Sunday, 24 November 2002 19:04 (twenty-three years ago)

quasi-military drumbeat. cold synthology.

"all dreamed out. all thought out. all played out. all lived out."

it hasn't been recorded yet, but it will be soon, hopefully ...

― robin carmody (robin carmody), Sunday, 24 November 2002 19:40 (twenty-three years ago)

With album titles like Where At Night The Wood Grouse Plays and Songs Of Moors And Misty Fields, I'd think that Empyrium would best embody this, no?

― Siegbran (eofor), Sunday, 24 November 2002 21:54 (twenty-three years ago)

I knew this would be Gareth's thread! Um...Wuthering Heights?

― Mary (Mary), Sunday, 24 November 2002 22:23 (twenty-three years ago)

methinks scott walker's tilt consumes this thread whole

tsk gareth there are so few chances to say "sussurrus" in this world, why waste em?

― bob zemko (bob), Sunday, 24 November 2002 22:32 (twenty-three years ago)

hahah, mary! well, those first few tracks on the piano magic cd you know?

― gareth (gareth), Sunday, 24 November 2002 22:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Shezou by Biosphere owns this thread.

― Mike Taylor (mjt), Monday, 25 November 2002 02:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Stonebreath & all those bands on Dark Holler?

― Wondering Boy Poet, Monday, 25 November 2002 16:07 (twenty-three years ago)

shut up & dance "THE GREEN MAN"!!

― michael wells (michael w.), Monday, 25 November 2002 16:25 (twenty-three years ago)

listen- "all the pretty little horses" by current 93,"hurdy gurdy man" and possibly "wicked anabella" by the kinks, and the deliberate strangers (band from pittsburgh.)

read- "outer dark" by mccarthy.

watch- "the reflecting skin" for the andrew wyeth hommages, or "mother and son".

― mike (ro)bott, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 02:52 (twenty-three years ago)

No, Jim White owns this thread...
especially the first album.

― jon (jon), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 14:17 (twenty-three years ago)

four months pass...

lite pastoralism?

― Mary (Mary), Monday, 31 March 2003 23:13 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...

thread revive

― Lord Custos Epsilon (Lord Custos Epsilon), Sunday, 11 May 2003 13:18 (twenty-two years ago)

the 1st incredible string band alb mebe

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 11 May 2003 13:22 (twenty-two years ago)

the new matt elliot cd.

― keith (keithmcl), Sunday, 11 May 2003 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Atman and Magic Carpathians Project. Feral grooviness. Six Organs of Admittance, too (though more the live shows than the albums, from the reports i've heard).

― Matt Maxwell (Matt M.), Sunday, 11 May 2003 15:47 (twenty-two years ago)

aha Julio weren't you the one who amazed me by liking the Incredible String Band? now I know why I was amazed - you are a Steven Wells fan! (the ISB would be one of his all-time hates surely?)

though I think they probably got darker after the first album, meself.

― robin carmody (robin carmody), Sunday, 11 May 2003 19:10 (twenty-two years ago)

as I said I disagree with many of his opinions on music. I mean I like free improv, folk, free jazz, classical etc.

I'm only a fan of his bcz i like his writing and he makes me laugh.

I was just listening to wee tam today and heard 5000 spirits yesterday. still heavily listening to them. I'll need some more recommendations soon.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 11 May 2003 19:24 (twenty-two years ago)

I knew this would be Gareth's thread!

Me too! I dunno why.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Sunday, 11 May 2003 19:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Beach Boys - certain albums like "Surf's Up" and maybe a little of "Pet Sounds"

― dog latin (dog latin), Monday, 12 May 2003 00:50 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

magic carpathians? tell me more of this

― *@*.* (gareth), Saturday, 27 November 2004 00:06 (twenty-one years ago)

This is a strangely thin thread for such an intriguing topic. I'm surprised to see no mention of COB or Third Ear Band. In particular I would recommend the Third Ear Band soundtrack to Polanski's Macbeth if you're into the Wicker Man or Comus vibe.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Saturday, 27 November 2004 05:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey, whatever happened to Pram? (My first thought, perhaps wrongheaded, when I saw the thread.)

― Marcel Post (Marcel Post), Saturday, 27 November 2004 05:47 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno, but Pram were great around that Sargasso Sea, Helium period. I don't really think of them as pastoral but definitely dark & childlike. I guess I thought of "pastoral" as a fancy word for "folk" but maybe there's a British connotation I'm not getting. If Boards of Canada is considered dark pastoralism I suppose Pram would qualify. I seem to remember the term pastoral being thrown around a lot in relation to Flying Saucer Attack but I never got that connection either. I guess the first thing I think of is Pentangle-style dark folk.

― walter kranz (walterkranz), Saturday, 27 November 2004 06:54 (twenty-one years ago)

XTC's Apple Venus Vol. 1 has some moments of VERY dark pastoralism.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Saturday, 27 November 2004 08:41 (twenty-one years ago)

Pet Sounds? WTF was I thinking?!

What about Gravenhurst's album on Warp?

― dog latin (dog latin), Saturday, 27 November 2004 10:38 (twenty-one years ago)

alex chilton-rubber room

― ke[hm, Saturday, 27 November 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Bela Bartok

― Paul (scifisoul), Sunday, 28 November 2004 14:34 (twenty-one years ago)

Ha ha ha, good one.

― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Sunday, 28 November 2004 17:59 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, Alex and Porter Wagoner, "Rubber Room."

Johnny Paycheck, "The Cave," about post-nuclear attack and the cave Johnny finds to hang out in...someone left a whiskey bottle in there.

"Wheely Down" by Richard Thompson off his first solo album.

― eddie hurt (ddduncan), Sunday, 28 November 2004 22:28 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

lite pastoralism?

stephan mathieu - luft von anderen planeten (from the sad mac)

like st etienne with no instruments or singing

― charltonlido (gareth), Monday, 17 April 2006 16:42 (twenty years ago)

silent night by william basinski

― maarten maes (dice collective), Monday, 17 April 2006 18:53 (twenty years ago)

The first thing that "dark pastoralism" brings to mind for me is a lot of the drone stuff being released now, especially on Digitalis. Although this type of music usually has different connotations for me, apparently the music evokes different imagery for the guys at the lable, ie:

foxglove048: culver "day of the maniac" cd-r
hallowed ground rises to the sky, unleashing two epic journeys by the uk's culver. inspired by the desolation of two german films, "day of the maniac" strips culver's usual dense drones down to flesh and bone. meandering guitars follow each other through bavarian landscapes in search of salvation. these pieces are bathed in warmth and hope. 86 copies

― Mickey (modestmickey), Monday, 17 April 2006 19:08 (twenty years ago)

Virgin Prunes-"If I Die, I Die"

― kwhitehead (stephen schmidt), Monday, 17 April 2006 21:41 (twenty years ago)

048

if only you knew

― died in 03 (gareth), Monday, 17 April 2006 23:35 (twenty years ago)

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