Duos with one member you love and one member you loathe

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Autechre

Recent Young Thug collab album with Chris Brown

Peaches and Herb.

("love" & "loathe" may be too strong in both directions, but --) Sonny & Cher

Love Cher, hate Sonny.

xp right on Morris

https://mmo.aiircdn.com/301/5eec9e418fd47.jpg

"Love" is definitely too strong but I've got nothing at all against Meg White, while Jack White can absolutely go fuck off.

lol soref!

Xps thread was actually inspired by reading a Cher interview this morning!

Seals & Crofts.

Crystal castles obv

(I'm just being a wiseguy...It's a really good question; my first instinct is to look for the perfect punchline.)

Does Marr/Morrissey count?

tim and eric

i know this is on ilm but that was the first that came to mind

go on! you loathe ...eric?

Yeah, songwriting duos count xps

Seals & Crofts.

― clemenza, Monday, December 14, 2020 10:50 AM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

As much as I love 'Summer Breeze', I'm kinda giving both of them the stinkeye this morning after hearing their proto-Lil' Markie 'Unborn Child' for the first time. Ugh.

The most obvious answer is Ike & Tina Turner. My own (real answer) might be the Carpenters, although it'd be stretching it to say I hate Richard Carpenter. He just seems vaguely creepy.

go on! you loathe ...eric?

― Evan, Monday, December 14, 2020 9:55 AM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yes! although i still lol at tim and eric things

i love tim but i feel like if i were in the same room as eric i would constantly want to punch him in the face

That's funny... we were recently rewatching some classic Tim & Erics, and felt that Eric plays it just perfectly (...that little smile), while Tim is sometimes too "broad" or forced.

Tim is a better actor all around though Eric is extremely good at the few things he does. Problem is that it's very easy to notice Eric's shtick. Tim seems to have more of a repertoire. Some of the really dry bits are where they're BOTH at their best. But like, Casey and his brother for instance seems like a character idea by Tim that Eric really didn't know what to do with; "Hey so I've got this grotesque talent show singing nervous little boy character I'm going to do, with an outfit and make up and fake vomit + spit and I'll sing these crazy songs with a voice and will have panic attack" "Sounds good guess I'll just put on these sunglasses and thrust around in the background".

Anyway, Eric's limitations are a little more obvious even if I consider him a master at that universe of comedy.

I think all that is fair. This is an example of one that stuck out in particular -- like, who's the hero of that sketch?

Eurythmics

John & Yoko

Can't believe I didn't think of John & Yoko. That's basically the pinnacle of "love one, hate the other".

Cheeky Girls

(Obviously Yoko is the good one, though I feel like ilx has more Beatles-lovin' rock types than it used to, so clarification might actually be necessary.)

xp to self

Cheeky Girls

― Uptown Top Scamping (Noodle Vague), Monday, December 14, 2020 5:33 PM (two minutes ago)

I'm guessing you hate the one who dated Lembit Opik?

club yoko here too btw

John and Yoko's 1970 albums were about evenly matched, she went downhill when she tried to write and sing pop songs.

My answer might be Jon and Vangelis, though my feelings towards the latter are more mild antipathy.

my thing with Eric is that I think he's responsible for all the extreme gross-out shit which is my least favorite part of all of that. but I think a lot of the surreal and maybe funniest moments of T&E come from him as well. Tim can be a little one-note as well - most of his characters are pretty similar - but a lot of his stuff works really well for me on a conceptual level.

I'm guessing you hate the one who dated Lembit Opik?

that was part b) of my thinking :D

but who's to say they didn't take turns?

I don't have any of these, at least as far as the work itself is concerned, and struggle to even imagine how I could.

I guess it helps if the duo has worked outside of the partnership, so you have some idea what each person is bringing to the collaboration.

love Messina, hate Loggins

love the Captain, hate Tennille

I guess it helps if the duo has worked outside of the partnership, so you have some idea what each person is bringing to the collaboration.

Admittedly, I was mostly thinking in the context of the duo itself but if it were to somehow happen that an artist I love was going to collaborate with an artist I hate, I think I would be more likely to reconsider the hatred.

Neither Jon nor Vangelis acquitted themselves very well on that collaboration imo!

But jim OTM

I'll be that guy. Love John, hate Yoko.

my thing with Eric is that I think he's responsible for all the extreme gross-out shit which is my least favorite part of all of that. but I think a lot of the surreal and maybe funniest moments of T&E come from him as well. Tim can be a little one-note as well - most of his characters are pretty similar - but a lot of his stuff works really well for me on a conceptual level.

― frogbs, Monday, 14 December 2020 17:37 (thirteen minutes ago) link

I think Tim is more convincing as a character actor and will become whatever the character needs to be, and Eric will simply either apply his specific goofy shtick to the character or will do the serious straight faced approach and not much else. Hard to say who is responsible for the gross out shit... examples of Tim being gross come to mind more often but not sure who pushes for it in the writer's room.

Based purely on personas after seeing them in concert last year: hate Hall, love Oates

love Perky, hate Pinky

love bill, hate ben

love her, hate the hitman

aw i love them both

Best thing I've learned today.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMw5jzO_lv0

they were great! not Pinky tho

I'm amazed to find out they preceded Alvin & the Chipmunks...England, you really did invent rock & roll!

oh clem wait til you hear Muffin the Mule

And here I thought Pinky & Perky was maybe...ah, never mind, it's 2020, I'm not going near that.

:D

Eurythmics ftw, even though I don't really love Annie Lennox I feel Dave Stewart keeps up his side of the bargain more than adequately.

Esther & Abi Ofarim. I can't really say I love Esther, but she was cute, had a good voice and sang on a Scott Walker album whereas Abi was a chancer who was freeloading on his wife's talents. Not dissimilar to Sonny & Cher though without Sonny's production skills. Abi did (mis)manage Can for a while, somewhat bizarrely.

Eurythmics are both basically terrible apart but at least Dave gave us Curve

Penn & Teller obv (not ILM but still)

Pan Sonic

I retract that, Vaisanen's output is more generic/unmemorable, "loathe" is too strong

i love john and love yoko but "john and yoko" the couple were kind of insufferable.

sic Curve was Dean Garcia - who was in Eurythmics 1983-5, but who was not Dave

I think Tim is more convincing as a character actor and will become whatever the character needs to be, and Eric will simply either apply his specific goofy shtick to the character or will do the serious straight faced approach and not much else. Hard to say who is responsible for the gross out shit... examples of Tim being gross come to mind more often but not sure who pushes for it in the writer's room.

true but Tim does way more acting in general, idk if I've seen anything else Eric's been in besides Aziz's show, idk how he is in there

the reason I 'credit' Eric with the gross out shit is because of some of the music videos he's directed in the 00's which tended to be pretty explicit and over the top weird. I feel like a lot of the really absurd stuff comes from him but the reality is they probably bring it out of each other.

I like the elderly sounding dude more than the cat stevens sounding dude in Incredible String Band

sic Curve was Dean Garcia - who was in Eurythmics 1983-5, but who was not Dave

they were on Anxious

Based purely on personas after seeing them in concert last year: hate Hall, love Oates

I was skimming through Oates' autobiography at the library last year, and he basically says in the introduction, "I'm not at liberty to say anything about Daryl Hall".

xxp true

Love Lisa Gerrard, hate’s too strong a word but I really can’t deal with the Brendan Perry portions of Dead Can Dance.

the crooner stuff? same :-/

and yet Lisa solo, ehhhhh

Modern Talking, with Dieter Bohlen being the baddie and Thomas Anders the “innocent” one. I refer you to the musical about them I wrote in my head a long time ago, but this reading was sort of borne out by subsequent events.

Have you seen “Dieter - Der Film”?

I just found out about it while skimming ILM posts on MT (Geir was kind of obsessed with them, even comparing them to James Brown - not a compliment coming from him obv). just checked YouTube, but it only has the trailer, I think. would love to watch it tho!

I like the elderly sounding dude more than the cat stevens sounding dude in Incredible String Band

Er... you're going to have to explain that one because I have no idea which one of them either of those descriptions apply to.

Dollar, obvs.

Re Incredible String Band: I assume Robin Williamson sounds "elderly".

John and Yoko's 1970 albums were about evenly matched, she went downhill when she tried to write and sing pop songs.

When did she do that -- Season of Glass? Those aren't pop songs.

Re Incredible String Band: I assume Robin Williamson sounds "elderly".

LOL I was thinking the other way round. Do either of them sound like Cat Stevens though?

She & Him - music-wise, anyway, I quite like some of M Ward's early albums but can't really get into Zooey's music career at all. I liked her a lot in New Girl though.

Re Ono: I mean songs with melodies where pitchy singing becomes a liability.

They Might Be Giants - guitar John yes, accordion John no.

accordion john wrote all the good songs, tho

can’t tell if halfway is trying to say approximately infinite universe is bad

it’s not

lol I was wondering if someone would mention TMBG but I was sure it would be the other way around

I don't know who wrote what, it was more the choice of instrument

Haven't heard Approximately Infinite Universe yet. I assume I'll like it less than Yoko's Plastic Ono Band and more than her songs on Double Fantasy/Milk and Honey.

Not to say that any John Lennon solo/duo with Yoko albums were very consistent, but he had a couple of great songs on each.

it's been a while since i heard double fantasy but i remember coming away thinking yoko's songs were better than john's

otm

AIU is Yoko's best album.

She has written some good songs that she can't sing, like on Sometime in New York City.

An ideal partnership might have been her writing all his lyrics.

I don't know who wrote what, it was more the choice of instrument

if you've ever really liked a TMBG song there is about a 100% chance it came from Linnell

Meg White - Cool.
Jack White - Ugh.

xp also he very rarely plays accordion

I'm going more on when I saw TMBG live a few times about three decades ago, so my assessment is probably unfair I admit.

They're not springing to mind but I'm certain there are some jazz duo sessions/groups that fit into this.

Looking forward to Meg White's solo percussion projects

love: Thomas Bangalter
loathe: Guillaume Emmanuel de Homem-Christo

lol sund4r

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who wants to do this lol

Love Sonic Boom, loathe J Spaceman- do they count?

What did Guy-Man do to deserve Hadrian's resentment I wonder

I have no idea which is which tbh

Lol

tbf it would be possible to love Bangalter's various solo records & other bands, and hate Guy-Man's other group Le Knight Club

Not that I was particularly into their music, but:

Jack U
Skrillex >>>>>>> Diplo

the best thing guy manuel did was the Sebastian Tellier album, imo