Xtreme Millennial Angst: V/A - Supercharged (2002) (CD) (Universal Music TV) (UK) (Parental Advisory)

A moment, or a demographic. Tony Hawk, WWF, MTV2, XFM, South Park, Jackass, The Matrix. Big jeans with big chains. There are “grungers” but they don’t listen to grunge. Skaters don’t necessarily skate either. No one knows or cares what britpop is or was. This CD is Alternative, but no one knows what that means, and which tracks and bands are OK to like has to be constantly renegotiated. At some point it all becomes very embarrassing for unclear but serious seeming reasons.

From a distance what is interesting now is how ad hoc this “genre” seems to be. It’s diverse and homogeneous all at once. It is way more post-90s than 00s. It is also extremely unbritish compared to what overthrew it. I’m surprised it made it here at all.

It is also extremely unbritish compared to what overthrew it. I’m surprised it made it here at all.

― Left, Wednesday, December 16, 2020 10:37 AM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

most of these acts were never that big in the uk.

e.g. deftones never hit the top 10 with a single and only one album (the self-titled one from 2003) in the top 10

depends who you were talking to, most of these were very big amongst a lot of my friends...I was 18 when this came out. MTV2 and Kerrang had huge reach in the UK at this point in time, and tied with the popularish crossover of some Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Papa Roach, Sum 41 singles - this comp makes total sense to me. i'd say almost half of the songs on here probably had good chart placements but that would take some time to check...

quick google says Limp Bizkit had 7 top twenty hits from 2000-2003. Rollin' was a UK number one.
Slipknot's Iowa also a number one album.

to be fair all of these had a top 10 hit, and popular albums, some of them had number 1s:

Limp Bizkit
Alien Ant Farm
Papa Roach
Linkin Park
Nickelback
Sum 41
Blink-182
Marilyn Manson
Slipknot
Queens of the Stone Age
P.O.D.
A

but for instance POD was very much a one hit wonder in terms of mainstream popularity, and interest in a lot of these bands was broadly subcultural.

I was 18 when this came out and this was too late in the day for me to be interested in this kind of music anymore though I had seen limp bizkit in 97, deftones and incubus in 98, and had liked blink 182 (in 1998 this was definitely fairly niche in my part of the world (lanarkshire suburbs of Glasgow) although obviously there was a bit of a commercial breakthrough in the years that followed

sorry third post in a row... as a teenage circa 1997-8 in a shit british city, if I saw anyone with a punk or rock or indie or grunge t-shirt of any sort in public, I would feel an instant kinship with them. a lot of them sat on a specific bench outside the HMV and received all the usual abuse you'd expect for it.

I think it was a combo of the bigger Nu-metal and pop-punk crossover stuff (sum 41 and Blink were both huge) flowing over into what came right after (strokes/white stripes/kings of leon) that totally changed that - and it became far more common to see people rockin' band tees - without the fear of being shouted at in the streets for being a 'dirty grunger' etc - and so the idea that anyone into rock music was part of a more underground scene died off to some extent. IN MY MIND anyway.

ok that's enough for now.

"change" def the best song here

sorry third post in a row... as a teenage circa 1997-8 in a shit british city, if I saw anyone with a punk or rock or indie or grunge t-shirt of any sort in public, I would feel an instant kinship with them. a lot of them sat on a specific bench outside the HMV and received all the usual abuse you'd expect for it.

I think it was a combo of the bigger Nu-metal and pop-punk crossover stuff (sum 41 and Blink were both huge) flowing over into what came right after (strokes/white stripes/kings of leon) that totally changed that - and it became far more common to see people rockin' band tees - without the fear of being shouted at in the streets for being a 'dirty grunger' etc - and so the idea that anyone into rock music was part of a more underground scene died off to some extent. IN MY MIND anyway.

ok that's enough for now.

― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, December 16, 2020 11:21 AM (fifty-five seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

yes I felt this same kinship, I also got called a goth for wearing band t-shirts and having longish (i.e. not very long) hair

i remember wondering during this era why sum 41 were constantly trying to convince me they were metalheads

the tipping point for some symbols or codes tied to 'rock' no longer being a meaningful signifier of rock music is probably Avril Lavigne's 2002 debut? and then SHE MARRIED A SUM41. there's a thesis here somewhere.

I loved avril’s fake punk, still do. the distinctions between her vs real pop punk vs real punk were lost on me until later

so yeah probably a bit but it was falling apart anyway

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bah

more like feel bad shit of the winter amirite

I didn't see this poll but I would've voted for the Deftones song

linkin park was robbed. thought they’d do better so I went for the nickelback, still a good song in spite of everything

The early-00s UK hype for QOTSA was so weird.