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when I was at cd plus on saturday i saw a kid looking through the tupac cd's. he was looking for the new one. they didn't have it. he asked a guy putting cd's out. and the guy said, 'oh, we haven't gotten that yet.'

i want you guys to have a thread about tupac because there hasn't been one yet. it will be a regular thread where people argue about whether tupac was good or not and you can also say what your favorite tupac songs are and what the tupac songs that you think are bad are. it'll be just like usual if it works.

i'll start by stating my opinion about tupac:

i've only heard three songs, 'dear mama,' 'never be peace,' and 'california love.' they weren't that great but i don't really know why. 'dear mama' was pretty good, i guess, and kind of sad. i semi-hated the other two songs.

i don't know what to think about him.

okay, guys.

― d k (d k), Monday, 25 November 2002 04:27 (twenty-three years ago)

i think hes pretty good, california love and hit em up are two of my fav songs ever and i like tupac - dear mama too

― s trife (simon_tr), Monday, 25 November 2002 04:32 (twenty-three years ago)

I'd say "California Love" is completely alltime classic and the Dre-less followup is embarassingly flaccid.

― J0hn Darn13ll3 (J0hn Darn13ll3), Monday, 25 November 2002 04:39 (twenty-three years ago)

i like how its all 'without bitch ass motherfucking dre' yeah a real upgrade pac!!

― s trife (simon_tr), Monday, 25 November 2002 04:41 (twenty-three years ago)

IMHO Tupac was kind of hit or miss, but he had some solid tracks for sure. California Love and Gangsta Party are probably my favorites. That said, I've never felt it necessary to own any of his albums.

― webcrack (music=crack), Monday, 25 November 2002 06:15 (twenty-three years ago)

"How Do You Want It" is totally totally classic. For albums I like All Eyez On Me the best. There's something about him that always made me kind of sad, even before he got shot. Like he lost something about himself. The doc on MTV was really good.

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Monday, 25 November 2002 06:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Sadly too prototypical for his own good except i guess someone else would be the heart of crap scholarship if he wasn't.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 25 November 2002 06:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Tupac is strictly a marketing gimik, theres some much thats be reconstructed from his legacy that theres none of the original left, 16 albums released since he died, 3 when he was alive!, is there anything he did that was good enough to warrant the hero worship he gets (other than get shot)?

― jk_ (jk@gabba), Monday, 25 November 2002 10:58 (twenty-three years ago)

Definitely my favourite one-testicled rapist.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Monday, 25 November 2002 11:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Crazy thing about Tupac for me as a European is that if you go to the Caribbean or Africa there are still hundreds of kids walking around in Tupac t-shirts (new ones, too, not just recycled). Tupac clearly embodied something really significant to people, and interesting that although you'd hear Nelly and Jay-Z all the time in these places, no-one was wearing them on a t-shirt.

Musically, I don't get it at all. Yeah, California Love is a good song, the rest never made much of an impression, the dodgy lyrics on 'Changes' put me off him for life, I think. But I'm really curious as to the appeal. I mean, it can't be all that 'thug life' crap can it? Or is it just his tragic rebel status...

― Jacob (Jacob), Monday, 25 November 2002 11:27 (twenty-three years ago)

i love 'I GET AROUND' and 'KEEP YA HEAD UP'.

pac is the anti-rakim.

― meh, Monday, 25 November 2002 12:58 (twenty-three years ago)

I am having a hard time describing why i like 2pac without resorting to media cliches like 'oh he was flawed and troubled and introspective and charismatic' and so forth. I never got annoyed or caught up in the whole martyrdom thing either though. He was just really visceral on the mic, an effortless sort of presence. He's also one of the few thug rappers who actually pulled off portraying the absurdity of mythologized street nihilism for me. That said I never liked "CA Love" ("How do you want it" is much better) and I thought radio bled his "shed a tear for the homies" side way too much.

― Honda (Honda), Monday, 25 November 2002 12:58 (twenty-three years ago)

i kinda hold him in the same esteem as lady diana spoencer princess of wales who still causes much wailing / gnashing of teeth over the "sad" loss of someone so "dear" to us all who did so much "good" work. ROGER TROUTMAN FRICKIN RULES . 2pac karaoke slumming it never did impress me much

― bob snoom, Monday, 25 November 2002 14:02 (twenty-three years ago)

He had a lot of great songs, my favorite is "Peep Game". The thought that a man this long dead has a NEW 2-CD set coming out tomorrow when the last of the stuff from the vaults has been SO bad is just puzzling to me, though. Who's buying this stuff?

― matt riedl (veal), Monday, 25 November 2002 16:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Tupac is still alive, you know.

― call mr. lee (call mr. lee), Monday, 25 November 2002 21:44 (twenty-three years ago)

one year passes...

Tupac was the greatest rapper of all times,he was a true representation a street poet.

― ken ngari, Thursday, 1 April 2004 07:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Stop saying WAS nigga I just saw him in a Hot topic

― LC, Thursday, 1 April 2004 08:27 (twenty-two years ago)

This topic is 2 years old but I'll just say that "Do For Love," "I Get Around," "Keep Ya Head Up," "So Many Tears," "Nothing to Lose," "Brenda's got a Baby" and of course "California Love" are great songs. OTM whoever said that he was inconsistent, though.

― djdee2005, Thursday, 1 April 2004 08:58 (twenty-two years ago)

less than inconsistent. he was generally bad, full of terrible cliched, an annoying sing-song flow, no new ideas. inevitably he'd have 2 or 3 catchy throwaways though. a bit like fat joe or someone.

― paulhw (paulhw), Thursday, 1 April 2004 20:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I disagree with that; he had an extremely charismatic voice and persona, sounded genuine even over cliched production.

― djdee2005, Thursday, 1 April 2004 20:24 (twenty-two years ago)

i like the thickness of his voice. and he takes some interesting melodic twists, too. as a lyricist, i would agree that perhaps he is not so great. i like the beats on "all eyez on me" though - disc 1 is brilliant. perhaps he is overrated, but he is still excellent and that is more than enough.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 1 April 2004 22:27 (twenty-two years ago)

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