Taking Sides: Aphex Twin vs. Tricky

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yeah so this weekend my aphex twin loving friend said listening to tricky's more harrowing product (pmt) that it's too nervewracking and doesn't have as much "work" put into it as richard d james' stuff (i winced) and that the restlessness it causes is mega annoying. i countered with some argument that the trickster is no less a genius than richard and that his angst is possibly more "real" (mother's suicide, health problems, etc - richard has a habit of getting publicity with his nastiness on the other hand but we know so little about the "real" him) and maybe he has/had a point in making his post-max. music so difficult,and that they're different genres anyway. who's right, who's wrong or is it a moot issue...

V, Monday, 25 November 2002 09:09 (twenty-three years ago)

is it just too obvious a q ?

V, Monday, 25 November 2002 10:31 (twenty-three years ago)

It'a a bit like comparing a carrot with a loaf of bread. You can't really face them up against each other, as they're so completely different. But your friends notion, that aphex puts more work in to his music, is quite frankly, bollocks. They both have their merits, and both work hard with their music. I personally however, prefer Aphex Twins music, as he has a admirably twisted sense of humour, although Trickys Wonderwoman cover is quite funny.

By the way, Have you seen Tricky in the new Tool video? Please tell me what it's like because I haven't got Digital Telly.

bob, Monday, 25 November 2002 10:45 (twenty-three years ago)

He has two tendrils on his head, a sort of a scale thing running down his head to his back, and generally acts out various psychodramas in a Tool video stylee.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 25 November 2002 11:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Pretty ridiculous argument, as bob noted.

Personally I love Richard James' music because it was some of the first electronica I heavily got into, and a lot of it still stands today as some of the most original and exciting music I've ever heard.

Andrew (enneff), Monday, 25 November 2002 11:58 (twenty-three years ago)

well i'm glad you guys find it ridiculous, since i secretly didn't really want either "side" to win. i guess.

V, Monday, 25 November 2002 13:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Of Aphex, I only really liked SAW II, and patchy as Tricky's output is, I really love all the adjectives your friend seems to have little tolerance for. I actually liked Tricky best when he sort of peaked in fucked-upness mid-career and alienated everybody looking for songs instead of ghastly murk. Now that he's doing Paul Oakenfold cameos w/ Nelly Furtado, I don't know what to think. Well, maybe I do, and it's that he should change his diet plan again. Also: the Sigismundi Tricky vid. is a lot better than the overrated Cunningham Aphxe ones.

Honda (Honda), Monday, 25 November 2002 13:38 (twenty-three years ago)

oakenfold cameos w/ nelly? are you serious? he's always been celebrity-hungry but thats hard to believe

what song is the sigismundi video for? ive never seen it, i think

V, Monday, 25 November 2002 13:49 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah he was on Oakenfold's Bunkkha or whatever the hell that came out earlier this year. It wasn't a dance track but some sort of polished soundtracky thing. bleh.

The vid. was for "she makes me wanna die" and it had Tricky as a lizard and Martina in a bathtub with snakes everywhere.

Honda (Honda), Monday, 25 November 2002 13:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh that sounds sooo cool (the video, ahem), I remember seeing the one for Christiansands which had him bouncing off green wallpaper I think, with Martina sitting there just singing. Very interesting.

But nothing will compare to that Aphex video that had Richard as a hip-hopping r&b star that had like a 10 minute intro ("you ain't about shit and your hair ain't either") in which he parodied (or paid hommage to?) Gene Kelly a la Singing in the Rain. The video seemed to kind of border on being rascist though, I dunno. I just think Richard is too ugly to do videos, of any sort.

V, Monday, 25 November 2002 14:07 (twenty-three years ago)

Both washed-up.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 25 November 2002 16:32 (twenty-three years ago)


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