Old Skool Rap Vs. New Skool

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For sake of argument, everthing post-Run DMC is new skool. I prefer old skool; much rawer.

(Sorry for my use of the word "skool", it's how they say it!)

― David Allen, Monday, 25 November 2002 22:34 (twenty-three years ago)

Who's "they," exactly? Everybody pronounces it "skool," it's called phonetics. Okay, so maybe somebody out there pronounces it "schoo-uhl" or "suh-chule," but not anybody I've ever met.

My vote goes to middle skool.

― hstencil, Monday, 25 November 2002 22:42 (twenty-three years ago)

i don't listen to anything released before '97.

― d k (d k), Monday, 25 November 2002 22:59 (twenty-three years ago)

bob holness invented rap

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 25 November 2002 23:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Sugarhill Gang was so raw! Yes!

Actually, I think a case could be made that Run-DMC spawned even the possibility of using the word "raw" about rap.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Monday, 25 November 2002 23:14 (twenty-three years ago)

All that I know well is the Sugar Hill stuff. Were the less commercial records of that era rawer?

― B.Rad (Brad), Monday, 25 November 2002 23:20 (twenty-three years ago)

schoolly d? kool moe d?

― mark s (mark s), Monday, 25 November 2002 23:23 (twenty-three years ago)

(hstencil is my hero)

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 25 November 2002 23:24 (twenty-three years ago)

[opinion concealed]

― nabisco (nabisco), Monday, 25 November 2002 23:27 (twenty-three years ago)

hstencil is not my hero (esp. when he's quoting one of the beastie boys)...

he can still come over and watch gatchaman with me though.

― gygax!, Monday, 25 November 2002 23:31 (twenty-three years ago)

I wish that the world could decide that new skool/school/skewl was heralded in by the jiggy era...as soon as Jay-Z said "Big pimpin--It's a movement" BAM! new skool rap.

― cybele, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 00:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Well, thanks for the (non) answers.

― David Allen, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 00:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Grad school~!

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 00:43 (twenty-three years ago)

I find this question baffling. I mean, sure, lots of great records before Run-D.M.C., but shit...might as well ask if we like 50's rock or "new rock"...

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 00:43 (twenty-three years ago)

"We are neither commercial nor underground. We are hip hop".

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 01:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Dom, that's crazy talk! You have to be one or the other! And you CAN NOT LIKE BOTH!!!!

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 01:11 (twenty-three years ago)

Shit man, you're right. I'm gonna go off and buy some retro hockey shirts I think, maybe patronisingly listen to some Saian Super Crew as well.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 01:19 (twenty-three years ago)

I figure most people are going to push for more recent commercial rap stuff anyhow and I won't bitch about that, really. But there's some pretty good pre-RUN-D.M.C. material that comes to mind that'll argue the early '80s case - Treacherous Three's "The Body Rock", Family Four's "Rap Attack"* (which sounds like Keb Darge/DJ Shadow 'rare groove' fetishization about fifteen years early; also it is FUNKY TO DEATH), the general early ouevre of Afrika Bambaataa, etc.

*Off the comp "Harlem World - The Sound of Big Apple Rappin'", which I have been trying to get ahold of since Matos pimped it to me. I can only imagine that the other songs on this comp (including Grand Wizard Theodore's "Can I Get A Soul Clapp (Fresh Out the Pack) are semi-lost classics.

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Tuesday, 26 November 2002 01:27 (twenty-three years ago)

But gygax! you're my hero! Where did I quote the Beastie Boys?

Seriously, I'd say like 1985-1995 = middle skool.

Mostly I just like Playskool.

― hstencil, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 15:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Is that pronounced "suh-chule-lee dee" or "schoo-uhl-lee dee" or what?

I finally saw "Aqua Teen Hunger Force" the other day, Schooly D does the theme song. MC Pee Pants rocks the candy, yo.

― hstencil, Tuesday, 26 November 2002 15:11 (twenty-three years ago)

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