ricardo villalobos

His stuff on the Perlon comp. is great, and his label put out Further's "Stone Cold", for which I could kiss him.

Actually he's quite kissable in an art-phag sort of way.

Fabric mix sure is good news, hope it has loads of "space children from outer space singing" type of tracks on it.

Somewhat boringly I tend to like Villalobos at his most accessible - but I also love "True To Myself" because it reminds me of Isolee's "I Owe You".

Having said that, his set was fantastic. Which is more than I can say for Sven - the big gurning lunactic."

And the the whole concept is so great: "Ichso", "Duso", "Erso", "Sieso" - that's "I'mlike", "You'relike", "He'slike", "She'slike" in English. That's what weird communication at 6am feelslike.

It's on there though!

Jesus dude. Chill out.

sorry, i get it. it's valid to bring up. afaict this guy has been making questionable decisions for a while now.

I guess its not straightforward to get the instagram account from that url string. I didn't realize they expired

does someone want to do a villalobos pick only five?

Richard Wolfsdorf ‎– Tia
Vermittelnde-Elemente - Modedom (Ricardo Villalobos Mix)
Spritzcussion (RV GM Sample Mix)
Farenzer House
Beck - Cellphone's Dead (Ricardo Villalobos Entlebuch Remix)

in any case sorry to disappoint your hope of a revive that was all about canceling ricardo villalobos instead of enjoying music.

― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Sunday, June 20, 2021 1:30 PM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

my default assumption when i see an artist thread bumped is it’s gonna be the artist getting cancelled, i can feel myself brace for it

Really like this villalobos remix (w loderbauer)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y62JJWkI82w

Overlapping w the cancel thread, Villalobos always gave me megalomaniac vibes. Feel like someone who so fundamentally reoriented ppl in his direction to such a dramatic scale, releasing 30 minute tracks and such, has to be a bit self important and like, entitled.

I think this is why some of the cancel discourse is kind of weird to me. It’s kind of selfish to be an artist and definitely to be a successful one. To be like, “I’m gonna be the guy.” Can’t really separate the art from artist — if anything this affirms what I already suspected

thanks for the yt link, that looks promising. i think it's really weird to think that an artist making their art makes them entitled, even if it's 30 minute long tracks (?????? lol heaven forbid, though he certainly isn't tony allen). like to me that betrays a very fundamental misunderstanding of why artists do what they do. like they carry on in spite of, not because of popular acclaim in almost every case, even though the popular acclaim enables them to keep carrying on, materially speaking. but w/e.

he strikes me as a particularly gifted creative who is trying to sustain his continued interest in the face of what seems to be some substance abuse issues and is maybe milking his reputation of being a genius while delivering some self-indulgent stuff that could use some editing and paring down.

Lol i mean … I don’t think you’re wrong either. Idk to me it’s a bit of a dialectical thing. And I’m saying this bc I feel like at some level it’s something I feel personally — the urge to be a creative person is at some level indulgent. And yea you are sacrificing and making unpopular choices & making yourself vulnerable in public & it’s easy to make these into brave / hero journey type narratives as well. But i still think you have to have a certain amount of unreal self belief to think not only are you gonna make art but you’re gonna do it in a way it’s never been done. The kind of thing that leads to being like, idk, I don’t really care about covid parties. Tho substance issues could as easily be at the heart of that, I assume a lot of the ppl who flew to Arizona during covid we’re addicts

I guess I should be clear that im not saying I’m trying to cancel Villalobos. I’m a huge fan of the art. Just that the things ppl are mad at him abt seem like extensions of, rather than undermining, the sort of impulses I imagine motivates someone of his great impact. That it’s hard for me to be like, wow I can’t believe he’s doing xyz

I wonder how precarious the financial stability of someone like Villalobos is. On one hand he's not exactly David Guetta, but on the other he's about as big as you can be in terms of ~underground dance music~ and he has been for over a decade now. I can almost justify DJs taking gigs when their sole source of income is these events and they've been mostly cancelled, but someone like Villalobos surely doesn't need the money, and when you factor in the backlash for doing it surely it cannot be a worthwhile exercise?

People who want to attend plague raves are going to attend them regardless of who is performing, so it's not like these events won't happen if the DJs pull out. I'm not sure if that makes it any less morally problematic to perform at them but I can understand the thinking of: this is going to happen anyway, so I might as well make some money since the opportunities are limited in these times.

I wouldn't personally be wanting to attend or perform a plague rave but I don't think it's as clear-cut as it seems.

I'm sure he makes a lot of money, but plenty of people who make a lot of money wouldn't do well if their main source of income was cut off for 12+ months. (n.b. I have no insights into his financial situation, maybe he has millions in the bank.)

i don't know if i could handle whatever drugs he's been taking but i kind of want some anyway

this has been a lovely little deconstruction of the (808) bass queen
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbEnXefJSFI

For map's benefit, I pulled together a shortlist of villalobos faves which I realised contains a lot of his pre-Alcachofa material when he could be surprisingly straightforward and obvious - reflecting that my taste in his work mostly skews towards the more populist material. But yeah there's a lot of fun to be had in some of the earlier tunes like "H.E.I.K.E. (Ricardo Villalobos Mood Mix)", as well as from that early 00s period where he was starting to develop his mature sound but was still pretty banging (e.g. "Bredow", "Alsbalduin").

Anyway:

808 the Bassqueen
Sieso
Beck - Cellphone's Dead (Ricardo Villalobos Entlebuch Remix)
Que Belle Epoque 2006
Ichso
Alsbalduin
True to Myself
The Contempt (Last H of Porto Mix)
Richard Wolfsdorf - Buena Onda
Bredow
Rhythm & Sound – Let We Go (Villalobos Remix)
H.E.I.K.E. (Ricardo Villalobos Mood Mix)
Bakasecc
Fool's Garden (Black Conga)
Thomas Dolby - One of Our Submarines (Ricardo Villalobos Remix)
Ric Y Martin - Sini Est
Senor Coconut - Behind The Mask (Ricardo Villalobos Remix)
Fadutron
Nightmares on Wax - Back To Nature (Lobos On Wax House Mix)
Y.G.H.

hell yes, i thank you heartily

will dig into that list asap, rn this very fresh jimi tenor remix make me feel some extraplanar type of way

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qJKzNzsnF84

(i know that was for map but thanks nunthless)

A favorite from the 2010s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mc_ED4L9Jg

Empirical house

man that shit is just so far out and sick. i love how he mixes together menacing and inviting textures.

his music just bursts with unique personality and it's such a thing of beauty when he makes the necessary effort, which strikes me as probably a difficult and time-consuming thing to accomplish.

of all the musicians that build a cult following around them ricky has to be one of the most deserving.

you guys, thanks for all the links and titles and such. so busy this week but i have my weekend sorted lol.

I own more releases by RV than anyone else, which I owe to coming of age as a dance music fan in the mid-00s, when it seemed like his infallible-minimal-auteur status was untouchable. Few artists have had a similar impact on me, yet I’m amazed at how many things (including many just listed that I don’t know). Plague raves do bother me as does his decision to play one, since it’s not like he hasn’t politicized his choice of gigs before (for instance, he refused to play in the US during the Bush years) and the zanzibar one seemed particularly questionable.

Some favourites that haven’t been mentioned:

Miami
Frank Mueller Melodram
For Disco Only 2
Richard Wolfsdorf - Bosch (which desperately needs a repress)
Wispa, which is the latest thing of his I’ve really liked
His Tony Allen Remix
Tu Actitud
His remix off isolee - I owe you
fabric 36
Uli, Mein Ponyhof

etc etc

Definite cosign on "Miami" and in particular the "I Owe You" remix which I had intended to include in my list above. All the others that I know in that list are great too.

The nightmares on wax one Tim mentioned is one of my favs

Sorry for not putting mine in list form. Just finding ones id saved in isolation

Obsessed with this one for a long time:

Primer Encuentro Latino Americano

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1eqRPJscjU

Ricardo Villalobos events be likepic.twitter.com/kMlbMUXiaN

— Fehmi Irgatto (@kalifiyeamele) June 14, 2021

I don’t think he does 10+ Mins songs because of megalomania, it’s common to have this long tracks for other djs to use when mixing… and also: drugs, lots of them.

xp lol ok sure but that video is 48 hours too short

I love For Disco Only 2--brilliant flip of Philip Glass's "Bed" aria from Einstein on the Beach

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LxIhaXjyj40

I don’t think he does 10+ Mins songs because of megalomania, it’s common to have this long tracks for other djs to use when mixing… and also: drugs, lots of them.

― ✖✖✖ (Moka), Tuesday, June 22, 2021 5:22 AM (eighteen hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

i feel like im being semi tongue in cheek here? like, i dont think hes hitler? just mean you gotta be a special kinda guy to be like, i think 30 minutes is actually a great length for a techno song and i know people are gonna rock with it and encourage it

if only his stuff was available via an official bandcamp page.
other than the fabric release there is very little out there for non-vinyl folks.
hopefully at some point there will be a nice boxset released,
but i suspect the legality and multitude of labels involved will make such a treat impossible.

plague raves make stealing his music more than morally justifiable, build your own bandcamp

From what I’ve read in interviews he doesn’t care for streaming or digital music generally & prefers physical media iirc

if that's the case then i am sorry ricardo but i did this:

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLfXMtyFU7mot1vJDbCIylzq3xFknj-VJH

thank you for this!

spritzcussion is so fucking good

one of the main things i remember about him in the 00s was that he would have special one off test pressings of things made specifically for club use so that doesn't surprise me

something like that anyway

His Taka Taka mix from 2003 is fantastic and the fadutron release he did in 05. Don't mind his fabric mix either but otherwise it's just too druggy for me, but not in the mind blowing acid+meth+skunk psychosis way.

Taka Taka is fantastic. I like the Love Family Trax mix as well but Taka Taka is the better of the two.

I do kinda miss that era of impeccably curated commercially released mix cds - i think Taka Taka and Immer and The Button Down Mind Strikes Back and Friends were all released within about the same12 month window.

Also cheers Tracer for the public service.

Some other good tracks I missed out on above (apart from some mentioned by others) are:

Mormax
Temenarc 1
Dummolator
Gucci - C&T Experience
Sense Club - Special K
Auch - Tomorrow Goodbye (Ricardo Villalobos Remix)
Mirko Loko - Takhtok (Villalobos ‘Hilery’s Chant’ Remix)

added :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxAxRy93RiA

Ricardo at Sunwaves (2011?)

the pre-Alcachofa corpus is such a treasure trove! there's an exhilarating moment half-way through "Damm3" where it mutates into this Phylypsian half-step skank, undergirded by an almost impossibly elastic bass structure ... the way in which he confounds the formal conventions of house music is always so impressive

"subpad" is dangerously next level delirium jacking

yeah go on then "bakasecc" as well why the hell not

I’m annoyed at how expensive all these records are.

"emilio (2nd minimoonstar)" is another 10s highlight—aperiodic burbling buchla squelch that gradually gives way to a strikingly beautiful plaintive melody

sven väth – "cala llonga (ricardo villalobos remix)" (2003)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1aU23CGaMk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_AKDSdODWU

The Kiss U remix is awesome, have been playing it again and again.

I love that this two track remix EP is longer than most albums these days.