The Goth Canon?

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If someone were to create a list of the Canon of 100 Most Goth Approved Albums...who would be on it.
I'm not aiming at a "Top 100 Goth Albums" thread. I'm sure there already is one out there.
I mean this: Pretend for a moment that you are an archetypal Goth with an album collection not much different than other archetypal Goths. What would a hypothetical archetypal stereotypical Goth choose as their Top 100 of All Time (Including all goth and NON-goth rekkids).

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 15:38 (twenty-three years ago)

1. Marilyn Manson - Antichrist Superstar
2. NIN - The Downward Spiral
3. Slipknot - IOWA

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 15:43 (twenty-three years ago)

4. The Cure - Faith
5. The Cure - Pornography
6. The Cure - Disintigration

― Aaron W, Wednesday, 27 November 2002 15:57 (twenty-three years ago)

7. The Sisters of Mercy - First, and Last and Always

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 16:26 (twenty-three years ago)

8. The Cult - Dreamtime

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 16:26 (twenty-three years ago)

9. X-Mal Deutschland - Toscin

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 16:27 (twenty-three years ago)

10. Bauhaus - Mask

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 16:27 (twenty-three years ago)

The Sisters Of Mercy (everything before "Vision Thing")
Christian Death
Fields of the Nephilim
The Mission
Siouxsie & The Banshees
Bauhaus
Project Pitchfork
Switchblade Symphony

and goth with more guitars:
Cradle Of Filth
Type O Negative
Moonspell

― Siegbran (eofor), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 16:28 (twenty-three years ago)

yeah, i'm too lazy to list any albums with those bands...

― Siegbran (eofor), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 16:31 (twenty-three years ago)

I once knew a major Goth (she wore a cloak and spider web face makeup) and she had a liking for Teenage Fanclub, The Pet Shop Boys and The Divine Comedy, so there you go.

― Lynskey (Lynskey), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 17:09 (twenty-three years ago)

Wumpscut
Apoptygma Bezerk
Edith Piaf

― Jacob (Jacob), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 17:18 (twenty-three years ago)

VNV fucking Nation

― RickyT (RickyT), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 17:24 (twenty-three years ago)

Marilyn Manson.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 17:34 (twenty-three years ago)

That was a joke, by the way.

― Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 17:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Depeche Mode from 'Black Celebration' onwards.......?

haha Lord C I've had this weeks-long ongoing argument on another site with various Goth/Industrial/Dark Ambient/Neo-Folk/Dark Electro-Pop types I know , trying to get them to explain what the consonances/dissonances between these genres are, and think about the coherent/puzzling aspects of an overlap between these bands/works/tastes. Unfortunately I seem to be on a hiding to nothing. (And that's not even bringing all the variants of 'metal' into the mix - of which I know nothing.)
I mean, it wasn't that long ago round these parts (2-3 years) that the local 'Industrial' crowd had nothing but *contempt* for the Gothics, and vice versa.
The more recent intermixing somehow disappoints me....maybe I prefer clear little conflicts to vague big agreements.

― Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 17:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Quick, someone say Killing Joke so we can watch Alex in NYC go nutty.

― Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 17:41 (twenty-three years ago)

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I had the same experience - my college roommate for a year was a total Goth, yet one of his favorite bands was Game Theory.
― mike a (mike a), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 17:53 (twenty-three years ago)

Not one mention of Joy Division yet? Are you people nuts? ;-)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 18:15 (twenty-three years ago)

The industrogoths have been left out in the cold! No one's mentioned Skinny Puppy, Front 242, Front Line Assembly, Ministry, Nitzer Ebb, KMFDM, My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult, Severed Heads, SPK, Throbbing Gristle, Coil, Die Form, A Split Second, Poesie Noire, Test Dept, Mussonlini Headkick, Cat Rapes Dog, etc.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 18:27 (twenty-three years ago)

what dan said. also neubauten.

― geeta (geeta), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 18:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Not to mention the pastoral-industrogoths! Current 93!

Poppygoths: Strawberry Switchblade and Soft Cell. And the Cocteau Twins should get a mention.

― OleM (OleM), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 18:39 (twenty-three years ago)

Swans: Children of God
An abundance of 4AD (This Mortal Coil, Dead Can Dance, Clan of Xymox, first His Name Is Alive album, Birthday Party...)
Legendary Pink Dots
Nico
Obligatory classical album (maybe Orff's Carmina Burana or Black Angels by Kronos Quartet).

― Ernest P. (ernestp), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 18:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Tons of Stravinsky, too.

― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 18:55 (twenty-three years ago)

what siegbran, dan and ernest said.

also foetus, die krupps and some more skinny puppy for good measure.

― dyson (dyson), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 20:55 (twenty-three years ago)

and for laughs a revolting cocks album.

― dyson (dyson), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 21:11 (twenty-three years ago)

I always thought Slint sounded quite gothic. Maybe that's just me...

― Callum (Callum), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 21:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Anorexic Dread
Alien Sex Fiend
Specimen
Sex Gang Children
Christian Death up to "Ashes," thereafter it's 3rd-wave goth and therefore does not rate

...and now we await the onslaught of googlers

― J0hn Darn13ll3 (J0hn Darn13ll3), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 21:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Alien Sex Fiend, haha, best band name ever.

― Callum (Callum), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 21:42 (twenty-three years ago)

vnv nation is soooo crappy

― chaki (chaki), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 21:43 (twenty-three years ago)

why not add...

Lycia
early Delerium
Black Tape for a Blue Girl

FSOL - Lifeforms, and Dead Cities might not sound too out of place?

― patrick, Wednesday, 27 November 2002 21:59 (twenty-three years ago)

naw all that late-wave stuff tries way too hard

"Dead Cities" though: good call

― J0hn Darn13ll3 (J0hn Darn13ll3), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 22:02 (twenty-three years ago)

Blasphemy, John. Lycia is utterly fantastic and I will brook no argument. Then again I'm a total sucker for the Projekt label anyway (the new Human Drama? wonderful!).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 27 November 2002 23:36 (twenty-three years ago)

Lycia's pretty good, actually, yes, though their version of "We Three Kings of Orient Are" will provide laff material for goth-haytaz long into the new century.

"A Day in the Stark Corner" yes good stuff. But what do I know? I like the Steve Roach stuff that Projekt releases, so I am hopeless

― J0hn Darn13ll3 (J0hn Darn13ll3), Thursday, 28 November 2002 00:50 (twenty-three years ago)

The Smiths!

― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 28 November 2002 00:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Most of the goths I knew had unhealy obsessions with Bowie and/or Andrew Eldritch. The Cult managed to have some borderline goth cred for a while there. Ditto the Jesus and Mary Chain.

― Kim (Kim), Thursday, 28 November 2002 02:20 (twenty-three years ago)

unhealThy...

― Kim (Kim), Thursday, 28 November 2002 03:26 (twenty-three years ago)

Do goths still like the Damned at all? They used to love them back when they were death rockers. And 45 Grave, too, but maybe that's a West Coast thing. Favorite goth soundtracks: Suspiria (yay Goblin!), the Exorcist, the Nightmare Before Christmas.

― Arthur (Arthur), Thursday, 28 November 2002 04:06 (twenty-three years ago)

I like the Steve Roach stuff that Projekt releases

You are not alone.

Do goths still like the Damned at all?

Hell, I got into them through goths via "The Dog" (and The Young Ones as well, and that had a vampire and all).

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 28 November 2002 04:24 (twenty-three years ago)

I think every goth I've ever known had some U2 and some Tori Amos

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 28 November 2002 06:35 (twenty-three years ago)

And more often than not, some Celtic-tinged pop and some New Agey stuff, preferably with overemoting divas in both cases. God, I hate goth taste.

― sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 28 November 2002 06:45 (twenty-three years ago)

Sundar hates hating fun.

― bnw (bnw), Thursday, 28 November 2002 06:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Robyn Hitchcock is folk-rock for goths.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 28 November 2002 07:00 (twenty-three years ago)

Don't goths like "Nun Sex Monk Rock" by Nina Hagen?

― Dave Fischer, Thursday, 28 November 2002 07:28 (twenty-three years ago)

i think you've all gone quite mad at this point

― dyson (dyson), Thursday, 28 November 2002 08:55 (twenty-three years ago)

D.A.F. "Der Mussolini"

― V., Thursday, 28 November 2002 11:01 (twenty-three years ago)

I played Fosca at a goth night a while back and they all danced!

― flowersdie (flowersdie), Thursday, 28 November 2002 11:52 (twenty-three years ago)

Oh-oh......I'm sorely tempted to direct a whole busload of goth-hating EBM/industrial puritans over to this board. If you lot think Alex NYC defending KJ is something, you should hear this bunch......

VNV Nation used to be okay - 1st album has 4 or so good tracks (2 of them excellent ones), 2nd one *is* pretty crap, 3rd one & its remix version are quite good in places. What I've heard of the latest stuff is indeed fairly dire, sounding like they've finally succumbed to
the things they always had trouble with: the extent to which they mixed in vaguely 'celtic anthem' elements, and their tendency to sound like medium-grade Pet Shop Boys doing 'industrial pomp'

― Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Thursday, 28 November 2002 12:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Goths love Nunsexmonkrock...because it roolz

― J0hn Darn13ll3 (J0hn Darn13ll3), Thursday, 28 November 2002 14:36 (twenty-three years ago)

haha there was an awesome highschool goth moment at the yr12 formal i was just working at - all the goth kids trooped up to the dj, requested marilyn manson's 'beautiful people' and went bezerk to it - this was right after all the awards had been given out for 'most likely to end up on the cover of vogue', 'best looking guy', 'best dressed' etc.

― minna (minna), Thursday, 28 November 2002 15:18 (twenty-three years ago)

Damn I thought this thread was entitled the Goth Cannon.

― alext (alext), Thursday, 28 November 2002 17:17 (twenty-three years ago)

Goth was invented on the last track side one of the 2nd Siouxise album, Join Hands. So that's one to get in, then.

― jon (jon), Friday, 29 November 2002 08:37 (twenty-three years ago)

Good call Jon

― J0hn Darn13ll3 (J0hn Darn13ll3), Friday, 29 November 2002 13:28 (twenty-three years ago)

Are there any that appeal to "Pixie Goths" but not "Spooky Kids"? And vice versa.

― Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Monday, 2 December 2002 15:46 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...

" God, I hate goth taste. "
i love the taste of a goth. the more cloves she smoked, the better.
an answer for the original question; faith and the muse or cruxshadows.

― kephm, Saturday, 4 January 2003 02:07 (twenty-three years ago)

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