UR-Suburban Knight and Clandestine, RFI

Still get a big chuckle out of this: the Infiltrator.

my problem at the time was that i had got into techno because it sounded so different,so extreme,yet the tracks suburban night was playing sounded no different to the tracks the saturday night mono resident was playing(not that he was playing detroit techno,it was house and tech-house,i think)during his support slot...

i might still go along to this though,out of curiosity...i know and like more detroit and detroit style techno (well,d1 to be honest) since i saw him last,and d1 (who are promoting this) usually put on a good event,although the music centre is a bit of a barn when it comes to techno...
i also think given that mcd,influx etc seem to be doing their best to homogenise techno into this kind of wishywashy umek or dave clarke playing every few weeks for twenty five snots scene,its no harm to support people who put on events with other types of techno...

Michael it's funny you post that, they sent a press release to me and it had all that stuff, dead serious and sinister almost. Then Clandestine had a similar profile.

Then it said "support will be from John McNamara from Wexford", or something, hahahaha.

q&a with him:
http://www.kindamuzik.net/article.shtml?id=473

"UNDERGROUND RESISTANCE IS A LABEL FOR A MOMENT.

A MOVEMENT THAT WANTS CHANGE BY SONIC REVOLUTION.

WE URGE YOU TO JOIN THE RESISTANCE AND HELP US TO COMBAT THE MEDIOCRE AUDIO AND
VISUAL PROGRAMMING THAT IS BEING FED TO THE INHABITANTS OF EARTH, THIS PROGRAMMING
IS STAGNATING THE MINDS OF THE PEOPLE; BUILDING A WALL BETWEEN RACES AND PREVENTING
WORLD PEACE.

IT IS THIS WALL WE ARE GOING TO SMASH.

BY USING THE UNTAPPED ENERGY POTENTIAL OF SOUND WE ARE GOING TO DESTROY THIS WALL
MUCH THE SAME AS CERTAIN FREQUENCIES SHATTER GLASS.

TECHNO IS A MUSIC BASED IN EXPERIMENTATION; IT IS SACRED TO NO ONE; IT HAS NO
DEFINITIVE SOUND. IT IS MUSIC FOR THE FUTURE OF THE HUMAN RACE.

WITHOUT THIS MUSIC THERE WILL BE NO PEACE, NO LOVE, NO VISION. BY SIMPLY
COMMUNICATING THROUGH SOUND, TECHNO HAS BROUGHT PEOPLE OF ALL DIFFERENT
NATIONALITIES TOGETHER UNDER ONE ROOF TO ENJOY THEMSELVES.

ISN'T IT OBVIOUS THAT MUSIC AND DANCE ARE THE KEYS TO THE UNIVERSE? SO CALLED
PRIMITIVE ANIMALS AND TRIBAL HUMANS HAVE KNOWN THIS FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS!

WE URGE ALL BROTHERS & SISTERS OF THE UNDERGROUND TO CREATE AND TRANSMIT THEIR TONES
AND FREQUENCIES NO MATTER HOW SO CALLED PRIMITIVE THEIR EQUIPMENT MAY BE.

TRANSMIT THESE TONES AND WREAK HAVOC ON THE PROGRAMMER.

LONG LIVE THE UNDERGROUND...."

I reckon this is definitely a gig to talk to the DJ after, I mean these guys are probably more friendly than our old buddy Carl.

Someone on ie-dance said they walked into a coffee shop and saw the ad for this gig on the window and when they were walking out it was gone. Now that's stealth.

Heh, maybe he has black glo sticks.

Hi Tech Jazz from their "galaxy 2 galaxy"
double ep is one of my favourites

Yours
Jan

I don't think so.
Anyway U.R. usually means top quality. Art of Stalking of course, Seawolf, Final Frontier, Acid Rain. Although I sort of prefer U.R. when they're cheerful i.e. Jupiter Jazz, Millenium 2 Millenium, Inspiration.

something so goth about the early suburban knight stuff. despite the samples "the groove" sounds like it should be the theme music to a hidden bonus level on castlevania or something -- helps that the snare sounds like clashing chainmail

even his housiest track w/ paris grey on vocals is dark as hell beneath all the 808 breaks. the main synth line is straight up black celebration/music for the masses era depeche

makes me wonder what non-dance stuff this dude was listening to? how much were all the og ur guys really into industrial and ebm and synth pop and whatever in the 80s? where they just hearing the club hits or were they buying albums and going to shows and wearing the clothes?

It is really funny that you should ask this question because I just dug out an unlabeled cassette this afternoon that turned out to be an interview I did with Alan Oldham in 2002. We discussed early UR and Detroit's music scene in the 80's for a few minutes.

Alan was talking about how early UR was basically a mash up of Public Enemy and Front 242. Mills went to see their show in 89 and basically said he was going to rip it off and UR01 showed up about six months later. Front 242's schtick was that they were supposedly terrorists who dressed up in body armor on stage and Mills absolutely loved it.

Mike Banks was in a synthpop band in the early 80's called Mike and The Mechanics(and no, I am not talking about the Mike Rutherford side project) who used to play Kraftwerk and other synthpop songs live by hand.

As far as Industrial goes, Mills met Mike Banks in a studio when he was working on the Final Cut album. EBM and synth pop were making the rounds back then in Detroit. Music in Detroit was really different in the 80's. There was a lot more cultural cross over in music and radio was a lot more open than it is today.

I have no idea if James Pennington was listening to Depeche Mode in his bedroom, but if his ears were open at all he would have heard it on the radio.

thanks for the cool info

it's interesting, i just assumed that much like the first wave chicago guys, any influence from this kind of music stemmed directly from the club hits (and radio hits i guess) -- "our darkness", "join in the chant", "peut etre pas", "flying turns" etcetc. i'd heard about final cut but i was under the impression that the ebm influence became more pronounced after jeff mills left, and that their stuff with mills as a member was more house. and then later you get carl craig sampling liasions dangereuses, and yeah obviously the whole ur aesthetic

i read a cool interview with derrick may talking about how lyrics from "radio silence" by thomas dolby were spray painted on the wall of his loft apartment. like you say, i guess it just comes down to things just being a lot more open and mixed up musically, but i did like this idea of james pennington or whoever with a flat top fade wearing a leather jacket and dm boots listening to clock dva or something