Frank Sinatra's Tetralogy of Despair

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These are Frank's most depressive albums. He wanted Gordon Jenkins to arrange Only the Lonely, which would have made a trilogy of its own, but Jenkins wasn't available.

This stuff is heavy. Sinatra himself called one of these albums "suicidal." There's not much hope to be found here, but I daresay many of us can relate to the feelings being expressed.

I'm partial to Where Are You? because it has the most songs I love ("I Cover the Waterfront," "Laura," and "I'm a Fool to Want You") and because of its gorgeous, oceanic orchestral wash.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Frank Sinatra Sings for Only the Lonely (1958, arranged by Nelson Riddle) 9
In the Wee Small Hours (1955, arranged by Nelson Riddle) 5
Where Are You? (1957, arranged by Gordon Jenkins) 3
No One Cares (1959, arranged by Gordon Jenkins) 3


Josefa, Monday, 6 June 2022 02:41 (three years ago)

Hard to choose — I love all four — but I'm probably gonna go with No One Cares.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 6 June 2022 02:56 (three years ago)

only for the lonely

Spottie, Monday, 6 June 2022 08:38 (three years ago)

Only the Lonely

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 June 2022 10:04 (three years ago)

Yep, Only the Lonely

birdistheword, Monday, 6 June 2022 13:46 (three years ago)

I'd throw in Watertown in light of the new reissue.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 June 2022 13:48 (three years ago)

My dad had two of these and they were probably his favourite records. The first record he bought when arriving in Canada in 1950 was The Voice of Frank Sinatra, a 10-inch disc which is apparently regarded as the first "pop" album. He preferred ballads to the swinging stuff, and he was listening to him in his last moments.
My experience with these records is that they're more intimate or tender than depressive per se, but I'll listen again before voting.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 6 June 2022 15:28 (three years ago)

No One Cares is as harrowing as Big Star's Third.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 6 June 2022 15:31 (three years ago)

I like how the title track on all four of these is track #1 which sets the tone for each.

Josefa, Monday, 6 June 2022 15:41 (three years ago)

Wee Small Hours carries a creative charge from coming first, launching a new form and style. Then there's the matchless cover art.

Only the Lonely is so good I might prefer it if I'd known it first. The other two albums are too monotonous in tempo and arrangement for my ears.

punning display, Monday, 6 June 2022 16:43 (three years ago)

I'd have Watertown if it were available but of those here, Wee Small Hours. (I've never heard No One Cares <anxious teeth emoji>.)

Shard-borne Beatles with their drowsy hums (Chinaski), Monday, 6 June 2022 17:18 (three years ago)

no one cares is my favorite of these; these are the only sinatra albums I own on vinyl, I found all of them together for sale at a bookseller that sold books and sometimes records in an alley in the SF financial district. wonderful lunchtime find.

akm, Monday, 6 June 2022 17:38 (three years ago)

Sinatra's Capitol LP's are great ones to own, but try to get the original pressings, preferably the mono mixes where stereo mixes were also done. Long, convoluted story, but later pressings were cut from dubs that were also messed with (more echo, additional EQ). When they started mixing the albums in stereo, they added a ton of echo which was the fashionable trend at the time. It's way too much IMHO, Frank's nearly drowning in it - the mono mixes are much drier with at most a tasteful bit of it added.

I still have a few LP's, and it's pretty amazing how well these things were manufactured, especially for albums that probably had a million copies pressed of each one.

birdistheword, Monday, 6 June 2022 18:08 (three years ago)

I've never heard Where Are You? and quickly need to change that. The other three are spectacular - No One Cares the most depressing but I think I like Wee Small Hours and Only the Lonely better. Tough choice!

Lee626, Monday, 6 June 2022 18:51 (three years ago)

I bought this box in 2014 for like $40; the first five discs are mono, the rest stereo.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 6 June 2022 19:20 (three years ago)

Where Are You? is absolutely the best - sung from the very bottom of Frank's post Ava Gardner abyss.

Piedie Gimbel, Monday, 6 June 2022 19:25 (three years ago)

xp That's the one with the original sleeve replicas, correct? It's a great looking set, and an incredibly cheap bargain.

However, it uses the 1998 and early '00s remasters by Bob Norberg. which a lot of fans don't like...BUT again it's a very affordable way to hear it all. In the past, a CD box set of those albums would've cost hundreds of dollars (and that's not even taking inflation into account), so $40 really is a steal. But for anyone who wants the CD's and the best sound possible, I'd get the original releases from 1987 through 1991 - I think they generally credit Larry Walsh as the engineer. They've got some issues as well, but the sound quality's better, especially for Songs for Swingin' Lovers. Also MFSL reissued a lot of the Capitol albums (but not all of them) on gold CD and SACD in the '00s and '10s. They're expensive, but if you can afford them, they're generally great. Some stereo, some mono. Their SACD of Songs for Swingin' Lovers is amazing but be warned they reissued the same album decades ago on gold CD (I think the only Capitol album they did for gold CD until those later reissues). Allegedly that older gold CD used the wrong master, so if you want to splurge, stick with the SACD's.

birdistheword, Monday, 6 June 2022 19:38 (three years ago)

revisited all of these this week

only the lonely > in the wee small hours > no one cares > where are you

they're all tremendous

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Wednesday, 8 June 2022 15:50 (three years ago)

Sinatraphile writer Will Friedwald points out that there's exactly one blues-tinged song on each of the four albums:

Wee Small Hours = "Mood Indigo"
Where Are You? = "Baby, Won't You Please Come Home"
Only the Lonely = "Blues in the Night"
No One Cares = "Stormy Weather"

Josefa, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 17:38 (three years ago)

"One For My Baby" isn't blues(-tinged)?

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 17:52 (three years ago)

Funny that you say that, I was just listening to that song and pondering that question. Maybe it was less bluesy as originally written? I don't know.

Josefa, Wednesday, 8 June 2022 17:55 (three years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Saturday, 11 June 2022 00:01 (three years ago)

Keep meaning to get more of his late 50s lps . Only have a couple. Songs For Swinging Lovers was one of the few lps I could listen to when drunk in 1988 and has stuck with me since. I think I have at least one best of which may have the best of some of these lps on. But have always meant to get Only The Lonely at least. Think I may have read about it in comparison to peak era solo Van Morrison in the 80s in one of my brother's old stack of NMEs. Peak era at the time probably meaning early 70s.
Do love some of Frank's material and his daughter did some good stuff too.

Stevolende, Saturday, 11 June 2022 11:35 (three years ago)

I need to listen to the others, but chalk me up as No Ones Cares via Junior Boys.

etc, Saturday, 11 June 2022 22:22 (three years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Sunday, 12 June 2022 00:01 (three years ago)

ten months pass...

Wow “Where Are You” is masterful.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Monday, 24 April 2023 12:49 (two years ago)

no one cares and where are you are extremely intense albums, the arrangement performance of the latter’s title track really nails the feeling of being totally vertiginously unmoored after the end of a relationship

brimstead, Monday, 24 April 2023 19:58 (two years ago)


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