All Those POLLS Ago: American Top Ten 7/4/1981

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Because the rest of the top 40 is awfully somnolent.

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
1. Kim Carnes - Bette Davis Eyes 19
5. Daryl Hall and John Oates - You Make My Dreams 11
4. Rick Springfield - Jessie's Girl 6
2. George Harrison - All Those Years Ago 4
8. Ray Parker, Jr. and Raydio - A Woman Needs Love (Just Like I Do) 3
9. Joey Scarbury - Theme from The Greatest American Hero (Believe It Or Not) 1
7. Stars On 45 - Medley: Intro "Venus" - Sugar, Sugar - No Reply - I'll Be Back - Drive My Car - Do You Wanna 1
6. The Oak Ridge Boys - Elvira 1
3. Air Supply - The One That You Love 1
10. Kenny Rogers - I Don't Need You 0


Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 16:11 (three years ago)

I have seen better top 10s.

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 16:12 (three years ago)

Ray Parker needs love (just like I do).

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 16:14 (three years ago)

Kim Carnes, easily, for me, but I find this live clip of the Oak Ridge Boys performing "Elvira" oddly mesmerizing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=agnjMmoXm6k

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 18:23 (three years ago)

I find those pink pants mesmerizing.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 18:25 (three years ago)

Gotta go with Scarbury on this one. That song is an incredible earworm.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 18:40 (three years ago)

Elvira was probably my favorite at the time ... Jesse's Girl and that Hall and Oates track are on my "run don't walk" out of the room if I hear them list.

sarahell, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 19:31 (three years ago)

It’s a really irritating batch of songs, sorry. No vote from me.

Josefa, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 19:34 (three years ago)

^^ new board description!!!

sarahell, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 19:38 (three years ago)

Stars on 45 sounds like an incredibly lazy way of constructing a hit record. Is that just a byproduct of the era, when home taping/copying was less prevalent?

birdistheword, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 19:38 (three years ago)

Really? Wow. I don't need to hear many of them again, but Ray Parker, Jr. is a master of this kind of midtempo synth bop, "You Make My Dreams" is R&B new wave, and "Jessie's Girl" still punches.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 19:38 (three years ago)

I like "Jessie's Girl" and "A Woman Needs Love (Just Like I Do)" just fine, and I wouldn't run away from "You Make My Dreams." Those Stars on 45 tracks were a nuisance that I am grateful for having (mostly) been too young to have experienced. The placements of the Oak Ridge Boys and Kenny Rogers just assures me that my grandparents will still buying music in 1981.

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 19:52 (three years ago)

UK top ten for the same week - no overlap despite half of the entries being US artists:

1. Michael Jackson - One Day In Your Life
2. The Specials - Ghost Town
3. Bad Manners - Can Can
4. Odyssey - Going Back To My Roots
5. Smokey Robinson - Being With You
6. Elaine Paige - Memory
7. Imagination - Body Talk
8. Kate Robbins and Beyond - More Than In Love
9. Red Sovine - Teddy Bear
10. Champaign - How 'Bout Us

soref, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 19:57 (three years ago)

I would've preferred "Ghost Town" over everything else in both polls.

I actually like Kim Carnes's "Bette Davis Eyes" quite a bit. Unknowingly, I was introduced to it through this sketch on Saturday Night Live: The Best of Eddie Murphy DVD - relevant part happens 30 second in:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T0epZ9tjYdA

I thought it was a made up nonsense song until I heard the original in some restaurant and was like "holy shit, that's the Buckwheat song!"

I actually think George's song is a nice tribute to John and the only memorable track from that album, but it's not on the same level as his Beatle hits or All Things Must Pass either.

"Jessie's Girl" and "You Make My Dreams" are okay - catchy and harmless.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 20:09 (three years ago)

From all my years in the 80s listening to UK chart radio (Radio 1) the only two I recognise are Bette Davis Eyes and Jesse's Girl - though everyhit.com tells me All Those Years Ago was a hit (#13) and Jessie's Girl wasn't.

Gotta go with Scarbury on this one. That song is an incredible earworm.

I also know this one just from a single watch of the seinfeld episode where we hear George's answerphone message:

Believe it or not George isn't at home
Please leave a message at the beep
If I was here I'd pick up the phone
Where could I be?
Believe it or not I'm not home!

Pretty funny despite not knowing the song, and it's stuck in my head ever since so yes an incredible earworm.

dear confusion the catastrophe waitress (ledge), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 13:09 (three years ago)

Because the rest of the top 40 is awfully somnolent.

"Slow Hand" aside, you weren't kidding.

11 11 THIS LITTLE GIRL –•– Gary U.S. Bonds (EMI-America)-11 (11)
12 3 SUKIYAKI –•– A Taste Of Honey (Capitol)-18 (3)
13 8 AMERICA –•– Neil Diamond (Capitol)-11 (8)
14 16 HEARTS –•– Marty Balin (EMI-America)-7 (14)
15 15 IS IT YOU –•– Lee Ritenour (with Eric Tagg) (Elektra)-11 (15)
16 14 WHAT ARE WE DOIN’ IN LOVE –•– Dottie West (with Kenny Rogers) (Liberty)-15 (14)
17 20 GEMINI DREAM –•– The Moody Blues (Threshold)-5 (17)
18 32 SLOW HAND –•– The Pointer Sisters (Planet)-6 (18)
19 24 BOY FROM NEW YORK CITY –•– The Manhattan Transfer (Atlantic)-7 (19)
20 22 WINNING –•– Santana (Columbia)-13 (20)

21 23 MODERN GIRL –•– Sheena Easton (EMI-America)-9 (21)
22 25 TIME –•– The Alan Parsons Project (Arista)-12 (22)
23 26 QUEEN OF HEARTS –•– Juice Newton (Capitol)-6 (23)
24 17 BEING WITH YOU –•– Smokey Robinson (Tamla)-21 (2)
25 27 FOOL IN LOVE WITH YOU –•– Jim Photoglo (20th Century)-12 (25)
26 18 LIVING INSIDE MYSELF –•– Gino Vannelli (Arista)-16 (6)
27 29 SEVEN YEAR ACHE –•– Rosanne Cash (Columbia)-11 (27)
28 30 SWEET BABY –•– Stanley Clarke/George Duke (Epic)-10 (28)
29 19 TAKE IT ON THE RUN –•– REO Speedwagon (Epic)-16 (5)
30 21 NOBODY WINS –•– Elton John (Geffen)-9 (21)

31 31 I LOVE YOU –•– The Climax Blues Band (Warner Brothers)-20 (12)
32 34 STRONGER THAN BEFORE –•– Carole Bayer Sager (Boardwalk)-8 (32)
33 41 DON’T LET HIM GO –•– REO Speedwagon (Epic)-4 (33)
34 36 THE STROKE –•– Billy Squier (Capitol)-8 (34)
35 40 IT’S NOW OR NEVER –•– John Schneider (Scotti Brothers)-6 (35)
36 38 A LIFE OF ILLUSION –•– Joe Walsh (Asylum)-7 (36)
37 28 STILL RIGHT HERE IN MY HEART –•– The Pure Prairie League (Casablanca)-12 (28)
38 61 TOUCH ME WHEN WE’RE DANCING –•– The Carpenters (A&M)-3 (38)
39 39 JONES VS. JONES –•– Kool and the Gang (De-Lite)-8 (39)
40 42 TWO HEARTS –•– Stephanie Mills Featuring Teddy Pendergrass (20th Century)-8 (40)

Bait Kush (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 13:37 (three years ago)

What I'd keep:

Slow Hand
Gemini Dream
Seven Year Ache
Queen of Hearts
Time
Jones vs. Jones
The Stroke
A Life of Illusion
maaaaybe Being with You

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 13:40 (three years ago)

Hall and Oates for me.

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 14:02 (three years ago)

xxp Jesus, 1981 was the pits. It always stuck out as a weak year when you look at both the charts and Pazz & Jop. IIRC the music industry was at its lowest point, but beyond that it felt like most people weren't doing their best work. Between Reagan's election and Lennon's murder to end 1980, it was like everyone had the wind knocked out of them. (Underground scene was a big exception: great records everywhere by X, Black Flag, Minor Threat, the dB's, Mission of Burma, etc. In this context, you can see how the indie scene HAD to happen.)

"Being With You" is nice, one of his better solo singles.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 14:38 (three years ago)

Top 40 seemed like such a barren wasteland in 1981. Wasn't Eddie Rabbitt's "I Love A Rainy Night" a hit then? And Clapton's "I Can't Stand It"? I remember hearing those all the goddamn time. I dug "All Those Years Ago" mainly because it constituted something of a Beatles reunion (Paul on vocals, Ringo on drums), and I had the 7" of "Life Of Illusion" which I thought was very snappy.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 15:03 (three years ago)

Year-end 1981 countdown...

1	BETTE DAVIS EYES	KIM CARNES
2 ENDLESS LOVE LIONEL RICHIE
3 LADY KENNY ROGERS
4 STARTING OVER JOHN LENNON
5 JESSIE'S GIRL RICK SPRINGFIELD
6 CELEBRATE KOOL & THE GANG
7 I LOVE A RAINY NIGHT EDDIE RABBIT
8 9 TO 5 DOLLY PARTON
9 KISS ON MY LIPS HALL & OATES
10 ARTHUR'S THEME CHRISTOPHER CROSS
11 KEEP ON LOVING YOU REO SPEEDWAGON
12 THE TIDE IS HIGH BLONDIE
13 QUEEN OF HEARTS JUICE NEWTON
14 BELIEVE IT OR NOT JOEY SCARBURY
15 WOMAN JOHN LENNON
16 PRIVATE EYES HALL & OATES
17 LOVE ON THE ROCKS NEIL DIAMOND
18 RAPTURE DEBBIE HARRY & BLONDIE
19 BEING WITH YOU SMOKEY ROBINSON
20 MORNING TRAIN SHEENA EASTON
21 START ME UP ROLLING STONES
22 JUST THE TWO OF US BILL WITHERS & GROVER WASHINGTON JR.
23 SLOW HAND POINTER SISTERS
24 STARS ON 45 STARS ON 45
25 EVERY WOMAN IN THE WORLD AIR SUPPLY
26 THE BEST OF TIMES STYX
27 MASTER BLASTER STEVIE WONDER
28 MORE THEN I CAN SAY LEO SAYER
29 URGENT FOREIGNER
30 PASSION ROD STEWART
31 STOP DRAGGIN' MY HEART AROUND STEVIE NICKS WITH TOM PETTY & THE HEARTBREAKERS
32 THE ONE THAT YOU LOVE AIR SUPPLY
33 SUKIYAKI A TASTE OF HONEY
34 A WOMAN NEEDS LOVE RAY PARKER & RAYDIO
35 GUILTY BARBRA STREISAND & BARRY GIBB
36 NO GETTING OVER ME RONNIE MILLSAP
37 ANGEL OF THE MORNING JUICE NEWTON
38 WHO'S CRYING NOW JOURNEY
39 CRYIN' DON MCLEAN
40 I DON'T NEED YOU KENNY ROGERS
41 THE WINNER TAKES IT ALL ABBA
42 HUNGRY HEART BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN
43 STEP BY STEP EDDIE RABBIT
44 TAKE IT ON THE RUN REO SPEEDWAGON
45 HIT ME WITH YOUR BEST SHOT PAT BENETAR
46 LIVING INSIDE MYSELF GINO VANELLI
47 ELVIRA OAK RIDGE BOYS
48 I NEVER KNEW LOVE LIKE THIS BEFORE STEPHANIE MILLS
49 LADY COMMODORES
50 THE NIGHT OWLS LITTLE RIVER BAND
51 FOR YOUR EYES ONLY SHEENA EASTON
52 IT'S MY TURN DIANA ROSS
53 YOU MAKE MY DREAMS HALL & OATES
54 HEARTS MARTY VALLEN
55 I'M COMIN' UP DIANA ROSS
56 THE WANDERER DONNA SUMMER
57 BOY FROM NEW YORK CITY MANHATTEN TRANSFER
58 GIVIN' IT UP FOR YOUR LOVE DELBERT MCCLINTON
59 TRYING TO LIVE MY LIFE WITHOUT 'YA BOB SEEGER & THE SILVER BULLITT BAND
60 ALL THOSE YEARS AGO GEORGE HARRISON
61 I LOVE YOU CLIMAX BLUES BAND
62 YOU'VE LOST THAT LOVIN' FEELING HALL & OATES
63 HELLO AGAIN NEIL DIAMOND
64 WHIP IT DEVO
65 AMERICA NEIL DIAMOND
66 SWEETHEART FRANKIE & THE KNOCKOUTS
67 HEY 19 STEELY DAN
68 WHILE YOU SEE A CHANCE STEVIE WINWOOD
69 I'VE DONE EVERYTHING FOR YOU RICK SPRINGFIELD
70 THE DO DO DO, THE DA DA DA THE POLICE
71 I CAN'T STAND IT ERIC CLAPTON
72 THIS LITTLE GIRL GARY U.S. BONDS
73 TOO MUCH TIME ON MY HANDS STYX
74 DREAMIN' MY LIFE AWAY CLIFF RICHARD
75 HOLD ON TIGHT ELO
76 DON'T STAND SO CLOSE TO ME POLICE
77 TELL IT LIKE IT IS HEART
78 TOGETHER TIARA
79 SAME AULD LANG SYNE DAN FOGELBERG
80 WHAT ARE WE DOING IN LOVE DOTTIE WEST
81 I AIN'T GONNA STAND FOR IT STEVIE WONDER
82 HOW ABOUT US CHAMPAGNE
83 HARD TO SAY DAN FOGELBERG
84 SOMEBODY'S KNOCKIN' TERRY GIBBS
85 TIME ALAN PARSONS PROJECT
86 I MADE IT THROUGH THE RAIN BARRY MANILOW
87 THE BREAKUP SONG GREG KIHN BAND
88 WHEN SHE WAS MY GIRL FOUR TOPS
89 WE'RE IN THIS LOVE TOGETHER AL JARREAU
90 A LITTLE IN LOVE CLIFF RICHARD
91 COOL LOVE PABLO CRUISE
92 WHAT KIND OF FOOL BARBRA STEISAND & BARRY GIBB
93 WATCHING THE WHEELS JOHN LENNON
94 BEACH BOYS MEDLEY BEACH BOYS
95 AIN'T EVEN DONE WITH THE NIGHT JOHN COUGAR
96 HER TOWN TOO JAMES TAYLOR & J.D. SOUTHER
97 NEVER BE THER SAME CHRISTOPHER CROSS
98 SUPER FREAK RICK JAMES
99 SHARE YOUR LOVE WITH ME KENNY ROGERS
100 TIME IS TIME ANDY GIBB

Bait Kush (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 15:10 (three years ago)

The actual good-enough songs from that list, imo:

8	9 TO 5	DOLLY PARTON
10 ARTHUR'S THEME CHRISTOPHER CROSS
16 PRIVATE EYES HALL & OATES
18 RAPTURE DEBBIE HARRY & BLONDIE
23 SLOW HAND POINTER SISTERS
27 MASTER BLASTER STEVIE WONDER
35 GUILTY BARBRA STREISAND & BARRY GIBB
41 THE WINNER TAKES IT ALL ABBA
48 I NEVER KNEW LOVE LIKE THIS BEFORE STEPHANIE MILLS
49 LADY COMMODORES
64 WHIP IT DEVO
67 HEY 19 STEELY DAN
70 THE DO DO DO, THE DA DA DA THE POLICE
81 I AIN'T GONNA STAND FOR IT STEVIE WONDER
82 HOW ABOUT US CHAMPAGNE
89 WE'RE IN THIS LOVE TOGETHER AL JARREAU

Bait Kush (Eric H.), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 15:13 (three years ago)

No love for The Tide is High?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 15:18 (three years ago)

This was the station I listened to, and looking back at this list, it's not THAT bad. But because REO and Styx were local-ish, their shit was played all the time.

WLS-AM Chicago "Big 89 of 1981"

1. START ME UP-Rolling Stones
2. I LOVE YOU-Climax Blues Band
3. HOLD ON LOOSELY-.38 Special
4. THE NIGHT OWLS-Little River Band
5. IN THE AIR TONIGHT-Phil Collins
6. WHILE YOU SEE A CHANCE-Steve Winwood
7. JUST THE TWO OF US-Grover Washington Jr.
8. DON'T STOP BELIEVING-Journey
9. THE BEST OF TIMES-Styx
10. WAITING FOR A GIRL LIKE YOU-Foreigner
11. NICOLE-Point Blank
12. WHO'S CRYING NOW-Journey
13. WINNING-Santana
14. PRIVATE EYES-Daryl Hall & John Oates
15. FIND YOUR WAY BACK-Jefferson Starship
16. WITHOUT YOUR LOVE-Roger Daltrey
17. ARC OF A DIVER-Steve Winwood
18. WATCHING THE WHEELS-John Lennon
19. HEARTS ON FIRE-Randy Meisner
20. SWEETHEART-Franke & The Knockouts
21. KEEP ON LOVING YOU-REO Speedwagon
22. YOU BETTER, YOU BET-The Who
23. HE CAN'T LOVE YOU-Michael Stanley Band
24. HER TOWN TOO-James Taylor/J.D. Souther
25. KISS ON MY LIST-Daryl Hall & John Oates
26. HARD TO SAY-Dan Fogelberg
27. TAKE IT ON THE RUN-REO Speedwagon
28. THE BREAKUP SONG-Greg Kihn Band
29. NO TIME TO LOSE-Tarney/Spencer Band
30. TIME-Alan Parsons Project
31. BEING WITH YOU-Smokey Robinson
32. FOR YOU-Manfred Mann's Earth Band
33. WOMAN-John Lennon
34. TOO MUCH TIME ON MY HANDS-Styx
35. A LIFE OF ILLUSION-Joe Walsh
36. A LITTLE IN LOVE-Cliff Richard
37. DON'T STAND SO CLOSE TO ME-The Police
38. BETTE DAVIS EYES-Kim Carnes
39. URGENT-Foreigner
40. JESSIE'S GIRL-Rick Springfield
41. I DON'T NEED YOU-Kenny Rogers
42. I LOVE A RAINY NIGHT-Eddie Rabbitt
43. THE WAITING-Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
44. MAGIC POWER-Triumph
45. ARTHUR'S THEME-Christopher Cross
46. HEY NINETEEN-Steely Dan
47. TRYIN' TO LIVE MY LIFE WITHOUT YOU-Bob Seger
48. POOR MAN'S SON-Survivor
49. STEP BY STEP-Eddie Rabbitt
50. IN THE DARK-Billy Squier
51. THE TIDE IS HIGH-Blondie
52. AH! LEAH!-Donnie Iris
53. CELEBRATION-Kool & The Gang
54. ALL THOSE YEARS AGO-George Harrison
55. ENDLESS LOVE-Diana Ross & Lionel Richie
56. GAMES PEOPLE PLAY-Alan Parsons Project
57. THEME FROM GREATEST AMERICAN HERO-Joey Scarbury
58. NO REPLY AT ALL-Genesis
59. 9 TO 5-Dolly Parton
60. THE ONE THAT YOU LOVE-Air Supply
61. TREAT ME RIGHT-Pat Benatar
62. BURNIN' FOR YOU-Blue Öyster Cult
63. LIVING IN A FANTASY-Leo Sayer
64. GUILTY-Barbra Striesand
65. SLOWHAND-Pointer Sisters
66. THE VOICE-Moody Blues
67. DIRTY DEEDS DONE DONE DIRT CHEAP-AC/DC
68. EVERY LITTLE THING SHE DOES IS MAGIC-The Police
69. ROCK & ROLL DREAMS COME THROUGH-Jim Steinman
70. GOT TO ROCK ON-Kansas
71. MORNING TRAIN-Sheena Easton
72. LIVING INSIDE MYSELF-Gino Vanelli
73. I CAN'T STAND IT-Eric Clapton
74. JUST BETWEEN YOU & ME-April Wine
75. A WOMAN NEEDS LOVE-Ray Parker Jr. & Raydio
76. TIME OUT OF MIND-Steely Dan
77. DON'T LET HIM GO-REO Speedwagon
78. BACK IN BLACK-AC/DC
79. FIRE & ICE-Pat Benatar
80. SEARCHIN'-Santana
81. HELLO AGAIN-Neil Diamond
82. CENTERFOLD-J. Geils Band
83. EVERY WOMAN IN THE WORLD-Air Supply
84. ONE STEP CLOSER-Doobie Brothers
85. MY KINDA LOVER-Billy Squier
86. YOU SHOOK ME ALL NIGHT LONG-AC/DC
87. YOUNG TURKS-Rod Stewart
88. I'VE DONE EVERYTHING FOR YOU-Rick Springfield
89. THE PARTY'S OVER (HOPELESSLY IN LOVE)-Journey

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 15:20 (three years ago)

Top 50 UK singles of 1981, some wonderful stuff on here, also some appalling stuff.


1 Don’t You Want Me Human League
2 Tainted Love Soft Cell
3 Stand & Deliver Adam & The Ants
4 Prince Charming Adam & The Ants
5 This Ole House Shakin' Stevens
6 Vienna Ultravox
7 One Day In Your Life Michael Jackson
8 Making Your Mind Up Bucks Fizz
9 Shaddup You Face Joe Dolce Music Theatre
10 Birdie Song Tweets
11 You Drive Me Crazy Shakin' Stevens
12 Ghost Town Specials
13 It's My Party Dave Stewart & Barbara Gaskin
14 Being With You Smokey Robinson
15 Happy Birthday Altered Images
16 Hands Up (Give Me Your Heart) Ottawan
17 Woman John Lennon
18 Stars On 45 Star Sound
19 Begin The Beguine Julio Iglesias
20 Green Door Shakin Stevens
21 Imagine John Lennon
22 Jealous Guy Roxy Music
23 Kids In America Kim Wilde
24 Japanese Boy Aneka
25 Daddy's Home Cliff Richard
26 Chi Mai (Lloyd George TV theme) Ennio Morricone
27 Hooked On Classics Royal Philharmonic Orchestra
28 Souvenir OMD
29 Can Can Bad Manners
30 Antmusic Adam & The Ants
31 Do The Hucklebuck Coast To Coast
32 Hold On Tight ELO
33 More Than In Love Kate Robbins And Beyond
34 Love Action (I Believe In Love) Human League
35 Body Talk Imagination
36 Stars On 45 (Vol 2) Star Sound
37 Lately Stevie Wonder
38 In the Air Tonight Phil Collins
39 Under Pressure Queen & David Bowie
40 Going Back To My Roots Odyssey
41 Under Your Thumb Godley & Crème
42 Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic Police
43 Happy Birthday Stevie Wonder
44 Kings Of The Wild Frontier Adam & The Ants
45 I Surrender Rainbow
46 Pretend Alvin Stardust
47 How 'Bout Us Champaign
48 Endless Love Diana Ross & Lionel Richie
49 Four From Toyah (EP) Toyah
50 Let's Groove Earth Wind & Fire

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 15:21 (three years ago)

1981 was a titanic singles year. Look at the P&J finishers:

https://www.robertchristgau.com/xg/pnj/pjres81.php

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 15:32 (three years ago)

Four of his top five albums are all-time

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 15:34 (three years ago)

In fact, there are very few duds on that albums list.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 15:44 (three years ago)

xp I actually own a bunch of these, mostly via compilations:

1 BETTE DAVIS EYES KIM CARNES
4 STARTING OVER JOHN LENNON
5 JESSIE'S GIRL RICK SPRINGFIELD
6 CELEBRATE KOOL & THE GANG
9 KISS ON MY LIPS HALL & OATES
12 THE TIDE IS HIGH BLONDIE
15 WOMAN JOHN LENNON
16 PRIVATE EYES HALL & OATES
18 RAPTURE DEBBIE HARRY & BLONDIE
19 BEING WITH YOU SMOKEY ROBINSON
21 START ME UP ROLLING STONES
22 JUST THE TWO OF US BILL WITHERS & GROVER WASHINGTON JR.
27 MASTER BLASTER STEVIE WONDER
31 STOP DRAGGIN' MY HEART AROUND STEVIE NICKS WITH TOM PETTY & THE HEARTBREAKERS
42 HUNGRY HEART BRUCE SPRINGSTEEN
53 YOU MAKE MY DREAMS HALL & OATES
55 I'M COMIN' OUT DIANA ROSS
56 THE WANDERER DONNA SUMMER
60 ALL THOSE YEARS AGO GEORGE HARRISON
64 WHIP IT DEVO
67 HEY 19 STEELY DAN
68 WHILE YOU SEE A CHANCE STEVIE WINWOOD
70 DE DO DO DO, DE DA DA DA THE POLICE
75 HOLD ON TIGHT ELO
76 DON'T STAND SO CLOSE TO ME POLICE
81 I AIN'T GONNA STAND FOR IT STEVIE WONDER
93 WATCHING THE WHEELS JOHN LENNON
95 AIN'T EVEN DONE WITH THE NIGHT JOHN COUGAR
98 SUPER FREAK RICK JAMES

1. START ME UP-Rolling Stones
5. IN THE AIR TONIGHT-Phil Collins
6. WHILE YOU SEE A CHANCE-Steve Winwood
7. JUST THE TWO OF US-Grover Washington Jr.
14. PRIVATE EYES-Daryl Hall & John Oates
17. ARC OF A DIVER-Steve Winwood
18. WATCHING THE WHEELS-John Lennon
22. YOU BETTER, YOU BET-The Who
25. KISS ON MY LIST-Daryl Hall & John Oates
31. BEING WITH YOU-Smokey Robinson
33. WOMAN-John Lennon
37. DON'T STAND SO CLOSE TO ME-The Police
38. BETTE DAVIS EYES-Kim Carnes
40. JESSIE'S GIRL-Rick Springfield
43. THE WAITING-Tom Petty & The Heartbreakers
46. HEY NINETEEN-Steely Dan
51. THE TIDE IS HIGH-Blondie
53. CELEBRATION-Kool & The Gang
54. ALL THOSE YEARS AGO-George Harrison
68. EVERY LITTLE THING SHE DOES IS MAGIC-The Police
76. TIME OUT OF MIND-Steely Dan
78. BACK IN BLACK-AC/DC
86. YOU SHOOK ME ALL NIGHT LONG-AC/DC

2 Tainted Love Soft Cell
6 Vienna Ultravox
12 Ghost Town Specials
14 Being With You Smokey Robinson
17 Woman John Lennon
21 Imagine John Lennon
22 Jealous Guy Roxy Music
32 Hold On Tight ELO
37 Lately Stevie Wonder
38 In the Air Tonight Phil Collins
39 Under Pressure Queen & David Bowie
42 Every Little Thing She Does Is Magic Police
43 Happy Birthday Stevie Wonder
50 Let's Groove Earth Wind & Fire

birdistheword, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 15:46 (three years ago)

I went to a New Pornographers show a few years back and as I got in my car to drive home, "Jessie's Girl" came on the radio and it hit me hard - it is the ur-text for the New Pornos formula.

sctttnnnt (pgwp), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 15:50 (three years ago)

xp Alfred's right - GREAT singles, but not a lot of them showed up in the Billboard (?) year-end Top 40 posted above.

Re: the album list, most of those aren't bad at all, but it still feels a bit of a letdown. Like the top ten albums are good albums - I have all of those albums - but except for Wild Gift, I don't think they're unqualified successes, musically speaking. Many of them don't strike me as the best work of any of those artists, or if they do, I'm not completely sold on the artist and their work in general.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 15:55 (three years ago)

If the P&J Top top 25 was actually the year-end top 25 for Billboard, I'd imagine a Golden Age of Top 40 radio.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 15:58 (three years ago)

I kind of agree that there are few "best" efforts, but on the other hand none of them is the weakest album by that artist, and they're all solid. And I'd rank Pirates as Rickie Lee Jones's best album, and one of the best of the decade.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 15:58 (three years ago)

^^ this. Thanks, ILM!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 16:04 (three years ago)

and, yes, the UK chart was on some ungodly trip

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 16:05 (three years ago)

I mean... I guess I know what I can't vote for...

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 16:13 (three years ago)

what was wrong with the US pop charts in 1981 becomes clear when you look at that year’s R&B number ones.
compare & contrast the seven of ‘em that made the Hot 100 year-end 100:

Stevie Wonder • Master Blaster (R&B #1 in 1980)
Kool & the Gang • Celebration (R&B #1 in 1980)
Smokey Robinson • Being With You
A Taste Of Honey • Sukiyaki
Ray Parker Jr. & Raydio • A Woman Needs Love
Diana Ross & Lionel Richie • Endless Love
Four Tops • When She Was My Girl


…to the 11(!) that didn’t make that list (I included their Hot 100 peak positions)

Lakeside • Fantastic Voyage (#55)
Gap Band • Burn Rubber (Why You Wanna Hurt Me) (#84)
Yarbrough & Peoples • Don’t Stop The Music (#19)
Chaka Khan • What Cha’ Gonna Do For Me (#53)
Rick James • Give It To Me Baby (#40)
Frankie Smith • Double Dutch Bus (#30)
Evelyn King • I’m In Love (#40)
Luther Vandross • Never Too Much (#33)
Roger • I Heard It Through The Grapevine (#79)
Kool & the Gang • Take My Heart (#17)
Earth, Wind & Fire • Let’s Groove (#3, this one would make its impact on the 1982 list tho)

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 19:00 (three years ago)

quite some sloppiness in that yaar-end list btw: I mean. “Celebrate”? “I’m Comin’ Up”? ‘Debbie Harry & Blondie’? and that “Together” song is by Tierra, not ‘Tiara’.

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 19:01 (three years ago)

That Four Tops song is sad.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 19:18 (three years ago)

At least the seeds for the future were there, if not high up the charts: Funky Four Plus One's "That's the Joint" and Prince's Controversy.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 19:33 (three years ago)

Or rather Funky 4 + 1. P&J spells it all out for some reason.

birdistheword, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 19:34 (three years ago)

with the sound, solid exception of the Ray Parker one, none of the songs in the top 10 under consideration meant much to me at the time (I knew six, don’t think I heard “Jessie’s Girl” and “I Don’t Need You” until later, “Elvira” and the Scarbury song are complete unknowns).

that UK top 10 otoh is so much closer to my heart, hardly any duds, and it has “Ghost Town”! “Going Back To My Roots”!! and “Body Talk”!!!

fwiw, my own personal top 10 for that very same week (coincidentally the last one of its kind I would ever compile):
1 DAF • Der Mussolini
2 Marine • Life In Reverse
3 Grace Jones • I’ve Seen That Face Before (Libertango)
4 Coati Mundi • Que Pasa/Me No Pop I
5 Michael Jackson • One Day In Your Life
6 UB40 • Don’t Let It Pass You By / Don’t Slow It Down
7 Pigbag • Papa’s Got A Brand New Pigbag
8 Theatre of Hate • Rebel Without A Brain / My Own Invention
9 Smokey Robinson • Being With You (former #1)
10 The Jam • Funeral Pyre

(also at 12: ESG • You’re No Good and at 14: Carol Jiani • Hit ‘n’ Run Lover - “Ghost Town”! “Going Back To My Roots”!! and “Body Talk”!!! were all top-10 bound with a bullet as well)

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 20:54 (three years ago)

also, I can’t hate on “Bette Davis Eyes” - totally ridiculous song, boogie oogie synthie new wave woogie. whoever came up with that “she’s ferocious and she knows just what it takes to make a pro blush” couplet deserves to be Jackie DeShannon.

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 21:10 (three years ago)

I am also fine with Bette Davis Eyes, apart from her nails-down-a-chalkboard voice

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 21:12 (three years ago)

I love the Synare - it's not an instrument I generally like, but here and especially the Flying Lizards' "Money" I think it's great.

Mix actually did a story on the making of the song. With regards to the Synare, producer/engineer Val Garay says “Craig Krampf bought that thing, and he brings it to the rehearsal and every song we rehearsed he’d be playing the stupid thing and I was like, ‘Craig, get rid of that thing!’ It was the most annoying thing I’d ever heard in my life. But he was relentless and he kept at it..."

birdistheword, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 21:23 (three years ago)

now playing, climbing the r&b charts that very week:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TETznfG-O-s
Cheryl Lynn • Shake It Up Tonight

(produced by Ray Parker, Jr.!)

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 21:31 (three years ago)

Agree with those above who view the American Top 100 for the year as some kind of nadir. Maybe five songs where I wouldn't switch the station, and "Jessie's Girl" in Boogie Nights.

clemenza, Wednesday, 6 July 2022 22:54 (three years ago)

never knew (love like) this (before):

Smokey Robinson liked Kim Carnes' cover of his song "More Love" so much that he wrote a song specifically for her. Robinson's people convinced him to release the song himself, and that song, "Being With You," peaked at #2 behind "Bette Davis Eyes."

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 6 July 2022 23:08 (three years ago)

Voted for Kim Carnes, without much enthusiasm. If this had polled the Top 20 that week, I'd have voted "Hearts" by Marty Balin; the top 40, either Alan Parsons or Gino Vannelli.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 7 July 2022 01:49 (three years ago)

I remember having a conversation with a friend in the late 90s that songs like "Theme from the Greatest American Hero" had basically vanished from the culture - this kind of faceless "inspirational, sensitive" anthem, soft but still "rock". I remember he mentioned a current hit that he said was a return to this genre which has escaped my brain. Did these qualities migrate to some other genre?

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 7 July 2022 01:56 (three years ago)

Re: Stars on 45

I wrote this before but it's appropriate now:

My OCD tendencies asserted themselves big time in my pre-adolescence and I found myself writing down Casey Kasem's American Top 40 which aired every weekend on the local Top 40 radio station. I was ignorant of the fact that I could skip the show (and miss the Long Distance Dedications!) and pick up a subscription to Billboard where I would get that chart all the way to 100 and a bunch of other charts as well.

I like to tell the story about how during this time thanks to AC/DC "Back in Black" and Billy Squier "The Stroke" that I discovered loud guitar (my tag line below is an homage to that discovery). I also like to punctuate said story that with AC/DC and Billy Squier as gateway drugs, it was either become a metalhead or a stripper and all my friends say I made the right choice.

Aside from just discovering bombast, I also discovered a love of pop hits that didn't sound like everything else. Now, it may be odd that a medley of Beatles songs would stand out for *not* sounding like everything else, but compare it to the rest of the early '80s pop radio and you will maybe agree that it was very unique.

So I kinda liked the song as an atypical earworm and as such I rooted for it and sure enough, it made it to #1. Only for one week (6/20/1981)! But it made it.

Can you guess the song it supplanted that would retake it's mantle the following week? Would you believe... "Bette Davis Eyes?"

Epilogue: I was in Illinois and I hit a local record store. I decided to record an Amoeba-influenced "What's In My Bag" clip for my adoring fans on social media. The clip runs over 16 minutes and you can see what album YouTube has me holding...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1VzOQ_9qn4

So even nearly 40 years later, I cannot escape that song. And strangely enough, I still don't want to.

But I realize I am likely alone here.

Loud guitars shit all over "Bette Davis Eyes" (NYCNative), Thursday, 7 July 2022 02:49 (three years ago)

Unchained is from 1981 so the year was good.

billstevejim, Thursday, 7 July 2022 04:49 (three years ago)

From this top 10: Yes on Carnes, Springfield, Hall & Oates, Stars on 45, Parker, Scarbury, Rogers

tootall (jetfan), Friday, 8 July 2022 16:34 (three years ago)

Getting major K-Tel vibes from this thread

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c0XjQRV7CIQ

bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Friday, 8 July 2022 19:23 (three years ago)

Unchained is from 1981 so the year was good.

Hell yeah

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 8 July 2022 19:27 (three years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Sunday, 10 July 2022 00:01 (three years ago)

Fucking grim year, by charts.

paulhw, Sunday, 10 July 2022 00:18 (three years ago)

what the actual fuck is that medley and why

Left, Sunday, 10 July 2022 00:31 (three years ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Monday, 11 July 2022 00:01 (three years ago)

Kenny doesn’t need us and we have no need for Kenny

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Monday, 11 July 2022 00:09 (three years ago)

Top four seems about right.

birdistheword, Monday, 11 July 2022 01:22 (three years ago)

The Stars on 45 medley is a lame watered-down version of the actual bootleg mix that inspired it, which you can listen to right here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2b_z9umnGo

Bad sound quality near the end, but that’s a minor quibble. I’m sure there’s better versions out there. Anyway, this one has real Beatles samples and not re-recorded imitation vocals like Stars on 45 had. It really slaps, as the kids say.

Mr. Snrub, Monday, 11 July 2022 14:23 (three years ago)

I'm struggling with the idea that "Bette Davis Eyes" is better than "You Make My Dreams" and "Jessie's Girl" combined.

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Monday, 11 July 2022 14:40 (three years ago)

Nah, the math doesn't work that way in one-choice elections. Votes were probably split.

birdistheword, Monday, 11 July 2022 14:59 (three years ago)

I voted for JG, but YMMD would have been my #2 choice.

“Lawman,” Slick (Grunt) (morrisp), Monday, 11 July 2022 15:22 (three years ago)

That Ray Parker Jr thing is amazing. Not sure I've heard the central theme of the lyrics addressed before, for starters. (It's the one title I didn't recognise.)

Nag! Nag! Nag!, Monday, 11 July 2022 23:55 (three years ago)


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