― cybele, Saturday, 30 November 2002 01:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― chaki (chaki), Saturday, 30 November 2002 01:11 (twenty-two years ago)
― paul cox (paul cox), Saturday, 30 November 2002 01:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― cybele, Saturday, 30 November 2002 01:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― chaki (chaki), Saturday, 30 November 2002 01:28 (twenty-two years ago)
he's probably also not very funny on NBC sitcoms because, you know, they fucking blow.
― your null fame (yournullfame), Saturday, 30 November 2002 01:34 (twenty-two years ago)
― bahtology, Saturday, 30 November 2002 01:44 (twenty-two years ago)
― Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Saturday, 30 November 2002 01:47 (twenty-two years ago)
Me, I've watched Mr. Show. He can be intermittently funny, but while I'm not as absolute as Chaki on the matter, I incline that way.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Saturday, 30 November 2002 02:33 (twenty-two years ago)
― cybele, Saturday, 30 November 2002 02:33 (twenty-two years ago)
Yeah, I feel the same way about both Mr. Show and the album. And generally the funny stuff isn't worth sifting through the unfunny.
― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Saturday, 30 November 2002 02:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― paul cox (paul cox), Saturday, 30 November 2002 02:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― James Blount (James Blount), Saturday, 30 November 2002 05:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― chaki (chaki), Saturday, 30 November 2002 07:55 (twenty-two years ago)
― your null fame (yournullfame), Saturday, 30 November 2002 08:08 (twenty-two years ago)
― chaki (chaki), Saturday, 30 November 2002 08:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― your null fame (yournullfame), Saturday, 30 November 2002 10:14 (twenty-two years ago)
― adam (adam), Saturday, 30 November 2002 14:15 (twenty-two years ago)
― Andy K (Andy K), Saturday, 30 November 2002 14:25 (twenty-two years ago)
Yes John Ashcroft is an easy target but my god, the image of him glomming onto the lady Justice statue's titty is golden.
SQUAGELS!
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 30 November 2002 15:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Saturday, 30 November 2002 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)
Awwww yeah...
― paul cox (paul cox), Saturday, 30 November 2002 17:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― Al (sitcom), Saturday, 30 November 2002 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)
No music I like immediately strikes the some chord David Cross does, except maybe Rocket From The Crypt. Their album also sounds like someone havin' a blast despite (and possibly because of) the bullshit that surrounds them.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 2 December 2002 01:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 December 2002 01:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 2 December 2002 02:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 2 December 2002 03:24 (twenty-two years ago)
― Chris Ott, Monday, 2 December 2002 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)
― David Allen, Monday, 2 December 2002 17:40 (twenty-two years ago)
― your null fame (yournullfame), Monday, 2 December 2002 17:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― cybele, Monday, 2 December 2002 20:00 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick Mirov (nick), Monday, 2 December 2002 20:51 (twenty-two years ago)
B-b-but SQUAGELS! And art-fucking!
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 00:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 01:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― Jordan (Jordan), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 07:41 (twenty-two years ago)
― Darren, Tuesday, 3 December 2002 20:49 (twenty-two years ago)
Also, his rants are better than his punchlines.
On the other hand, two hours is a long time to try to be funny.
As for music David Cross likes: does anyone remember the Acoustic Vaudeville tour (or whatever it was called) where he opened for Aimee Mann and Michael Penn? A friend of mine saw it and loved it - apparently, Cross also introduced the songs for them. He's pals with a whole bunch of those people - Jon Brion, whose girlfriend does the "Hey everybody, it's Bob and Dave thing!" and was in Punch Drunk Love, and Brion did the music for PDL and produced Aimee Mann, and they all probably have picnics together.
― Chris Dahlen (Chris Dahlen), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 21:11 (twenty-two years ago)
BEST TYPO EVER.
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick Mirov (nick), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 22:13 (twenty-two years ago)
Awww, yeah, sorry about that. Once in a while I make a Freudian penis.
― Chris Dahlen (Chris Dahlen), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 03:51 (twenty-two years ago)
Actually, he was fired for saying on-air, "Im on a station, that thinks Creed is cool"
― David Allen, Wednesday, 4 December 2002 03:55 (twenty-two years ago)
...such as Yo La Tengo - appears with Bob in the "Sugarcube" video .. also, he opened for them on Tueday's Hannukah show..
― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 13:46 (twenty-two years ago)
― catherine, Wednesday, 4 December 2002 20:47 (twenty-two years ago)
I'm guessing the "easy targets" on disc 2 probably landed him in an FBI - er, I mean DHS file somewheres. And he came clean on the errors in the liner notes.
It would've been more interesting if there had been even one heckler, or anyone in the crowd who got pissed off at him.
You didn't check out Disc 1's bonus video, did you?
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Thursday, 5 December 2002 00:19 (twenty-two years ago)
HAHA! Chris, that's one of the best and funniest things I've ever read on ILM in, like, ages! (I'm being serious)
― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 5 December 2002 00:26 (twenty-two years ago)
― Daron Gardner (Daron Gardner), Monday, 9 December 2002 18:32 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nick A. (Nick A.), Monday, 9 December 2002 19:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Monday, 9 December 2002 23:49 (twenty-two years ago)
― kinski (kinski), Monday, 22 December 2003 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― kinski (kinski), Monday, 22 December 2003 14:19 (twenty-one years ago)
this thread was weird.
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, 22 December 2003 14:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 22 December 2003 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)
― nick.K (nick.K), Monday, 22 December 2003 16:04 (twenty-one years ago)
Arrested Development without Cross last night=Another great episode. The 3 best episodes have been the ones he's not in. Hmmm...
As for David Cross and "indie rock", there's an old feature in Matador's promo rag where Franklin Bruno plays indie songs and the Mr. Show guys comment. WARNING: A bit of talk aboot Momus.
― Vic Funk, Monday, 22 December 2003 17:25 (twenty-one years ago)
David Cross dropping the n-bomb at a Howard Dean fundraiser: classic or dud?
― Chris Dahlen (Chris Dahlen), Monday, 22 December 2003 17:29 (twenty-one years ago)
Dropping the "n-bomb" at a Howard Dean fundraiser sounds like a pretty lousy idea. Did this really happen?
― Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Monday, 22 December 2003 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)
My favorite is Gob.
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 22 December 2003 17:33 (twenty-one years ago)
― kinski (kinski), Monday, 22 December 2003 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― kinski (kinski), Monday, 22 December 2003 17:45 (twenty-one years ago)
My guess: At some point in the next season, it'll get stuck with a worse timeslot, and then it will eventually get cancelled. But then again, the cult needs time to grow, and this time next year it could be a much more popular show.
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Monday, 22 December 2003 17:51 (twenty-one years ago)
It might be of interest to this thread that regardless of who is dating Mary Lynn Rajskub now, that David Cross was dating her when she was on Mr. Show, which is why she suddenly stopped being on Mr. Show. You know, since everyone's pointing fingers at David for not having his facts straight...
― TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Monday, 22 December 2003 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)
― NA (Nick A.), Monday, 22 December 2003 17:53 (twenty-one years ago)
He was one of several off-color comics that enraged Dean's audience and Dean himself, who, of course, needs to clean up a little now that he's the Democratic frontrunner. There are several stories about it online, although none of them really went into detail about Cross' exact jokes.
― Chris Dahlen (Chris Dahlen), Monday, 22 December 2003 22:20 (twenty-one years ago)
Oh hey, I really disagree with this now. I still don't like the standup album. But Seasons 2 and 4 of Mr. Show are perfect.
― Colin Beckett (Colin Beckett), Monday, 22 December 2003 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)
His first/only? HBO special was terrible too. He's got terrible timing, stutters and mutters too much, and then kind of randomly yells. Absolute dud.
I finally saw Chris Rock's "Bigger and Blacker" special all the way through, everything Cross tries to be (ie edgy and funny), but done right.
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 22 December 2003 22:37 (twenty-one years ago)
Also, SUYFB isn't great. Especially if you saw him live on that tour.
― TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Monday, 22 December 2003 23:17 (twenty-one years ago)
Cross isn't making jokes, though (nor being funny) - he's just being hateful and horribly misanthropic. Getting cheap laughs out of stereotypes and funny voices and shouting. It's k-lame.
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Monday, 22 December 2003 23:24 (twenty-one years ago)
He's got some funny lines though. Horrible taste in film roles.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, 22 December 2003 23:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― TEH ONE AN ONLEY DEANN GULBAREY (deangulberry), Monday, 22 December 2003 23:34 (twenty-one years ago)
― Salmon Pink (Salmon Pink), Wednesday, 24 December 2003 07:23 (twenty-one years ago)
― Matthew Perpetua (Matthew Perpetua), Thursday, 25 December 2003 04:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 25 December 2003 04:12 (twenty-one years ago)
-- Salmon Pink (salmon_pin...), December 22nd, 2003.
Jesus Christ, we're all adults here. The word is "nigger."
But in terms of the fact that he used the word, it's context. If he used it in the same way he used it on the CD, well that was mildly funny, kind of forced. And trying a little too hard to be offensive. If he used it matter-of-factly, and it wasn't the punchline to a joke, fine, it's a real word and he should be able to use it.
― David Allen, Thursday, 25 December 2003 04:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Thursday, 25 December 2003 04:50 (twenty-one years ago)
― David Allen, Thursday, 25 December 2003 04:51 (twenty-one years ago)
― Naive Teen Idol (Naive Teen Idol), Thursday, 25 December 2003 08:15 (twenty-one years ago)
bill hicks was a republican?
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Thursday, 25 December 2003 10:41 (twenty-one years ago)
Re: Cross at the Howard Dean Fundraiser:
Not to overexplain this but for the people who don't follow Dean's campaign, this was funny because for Cross to use that material was a genuinely disruptive act - and those ain't easy to come by these days (unlike Lenny Bruce's time, and congrats Lenny on finally getting a pardon - RIP).
Dean was an edgy, long-shot candidate who has become the frontrunner in the Democratic race, and he's currently trying to transition his outsider appeal into mainstream viability (the great American success story, as it were). He's likely to be the Democratic nominee in '04 who'll get to lose to President Bush next November. But one of his weaknesses is a perceived lack of support or interest in the African-American community.
So you have to imagine the look on Dean's face when this "edgy, hipster" white geek comic starts throwing around racial slurs at his fundraiser, in front of the national media. Like, there's no context that makes that viable. I laughed and laughed.
― Chris D, Thursday, 25 December 2003 17:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― David Allen, Thursday, 25 December 2003 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)
sorry, when was this? the guy's about 'edgy' as a plastic coated baby spoon. kucinich is all edge.
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 26 December 2003 02:36 (twenty-one years ago)
― miloauckerman (miloauckerman), Friday, 26 December 2003 02:42 (twenty-one years ago)
― nate detritus (natedetritus), Friday, 26 December 2003 03:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― el sabor de gene (yournullfame), Friday, 26 December 2003 09:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― Phil Freeman (Phil Freeman), Friday, 26 December 2003 18:24 (twenty-one years ago)
― dean!dean!dean (deangulberry), Tuesday, 4 May 2004 19:33 (twenty-one years ago)
You can't be edgy on pot. You can be parinoid...not edgy.
― Dakian, Thursday, 13 January 2005 06:08 (twenty years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Thursday, 13 January 2005 06:48 (twenty years ago)
― American Apparel and Jeanne-Claude (deangulberry), Thursday, 13 January 2005 06:58 (twenty years ago)
I used to think Cross was a shitty standup, but this is actually really funny! It's on netflix watch instantly right now.
http://www.mbvmusic.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/david-cross-bigger-blackerer.jpg
― Darin, Thursday, 21 October 2010 15:13 (fourteen years ago)
I have had two things I made fun of *all the time* that David Cross later came out w/stand up routines about: misuse of the word "literally," and the movie title "My Ass Is Haunted." Now I feel like I can't joke about either.
― Stop Non-Erotic Cabaret (Abbbottt), Saturday, 4 December 2010 02:55 (fourteen years ago)
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― online hardman, Monday, 9 June 2014 17:01 (eleven years ago)
David Cross later came out w/stand up routines about.... the movie title "My Ass Is Haunted."
I think about this bit sometimes and it kills me. Also the one where he talks about the porno movie "F*ck My Dirty Ass: The Movie."
'I know what you're thinking - how did they ever turn that book into a movie?! I remember seeing the musical of it at the Mark Taper Forum.' (paraphrased from memory; probably badly)
― Walter Galt, Tuesday, 10 June 2014 10:45 (eleven years ago)
new live film is pretty good, more of the same
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 August 2016 20:14 (nine years ago)
his standup does seem limited by his preference for topicality over joeks
― Οὖτις, Thursday, 25 August 2016 20:17 (nine years ago)
that would seem to be a liability for a comedian
― Immediate Follower (NA), Thursday, 25 August 2016 20:26 (nine years ago)