Is Dannii Minogue a Nazi?

[and the ANL *are* relevant, what with the B*P winning another council seat...]

eh, it's not like I really care that much one way or another about this, but it does look like people are leaping to conclusions based on comments that are in themselves rather neutral.

I also think it is thought fascism if people can't say things for fear they might be quoted out of context.

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2002/11/28/1038386242625.html

Dannii's bizarre anti-Asian rant - November 28 2002

Australian pop singer Dannii Minogue has complained about the influx of
Asians in Queensland and the liberal policies of British Prime Minister
Tony Blair in a bizarre interview with men's magazine GQ.

Minogue, the younger sister of the more famous Kylie, was interviewed by
newspaper editor Simon Kelner over a STG172 ($A478) dinner at a French
restaurant in London decorated with stuffed animals.

Kelner described Les Trois Garcons - Minogue's choice of venue - as
possibly the worst restaurant in the western world and the evening as an
experience of epic awfulness, although he said that was not because of
the company.

"She may have somewhat controversial political views but at least she
has the defence of being Australian," he said.

Kelner said the evening had already taken a bad turn when the
London-based Minogue started talking politics.

First she complained about the number of Asians in Queensland: "Even
some of the street signs are in Asian!"

Then Tony Blair came in for a lashing. "This country is in an appalling
state with the muggings and the carjackings," Minogue said.

"I feel sorry for people that live in suburbs, who are afraid to let
their children walk down the street. Tony Blair has to be tougher."

Minogue added that she could see why far-right politician Jean-Marie Le
Pen was popular in France: "I think he struck a chord with people."

She said gypsies, asylum seekers and council-estate dwellers had made
the streets unsafe around her south London home and rejected Kelner's
suggestion that rising crime levels might be the result of poverty.

"These aren't poor people," she said. "They have satellite dishes, they
go to football games, they wear Nike trainers. I have been to countries
where there are poor people, believe me."

Classic.

What is this, Vice Junior??

DV, can you direct me to them? or would the facts get in the way of a 'good story'?

it's astonishing to me always when what people say is inevitably more important than what they do. is she a member of the b*p? does she support the b*p? has she ever advocated for it? just because they have co-opted her comments that are innocuous enough when removed from a b*p poster doesn't make her a nazi.

Still, there you have it, readers - another chapter in the unalterable decline of ILx, the message board which wants to understand rapists and find excuses for racists.

so racism's ok if you keep it secret and don't get drunk and let it out?

i'm not saying you're wrong, its just i'm never sure, i can never place australia on the left-right scale, its less right wing than, say, 25 years ago though?

actually, no, speaking to nalini, she says shes embarrassed by much of the rightwing rhetoric there.

australians to thread!

i work a block away from chinatown and there are not loads. we're talking street signs here - that was the comment i was responding to. three street signs bearing a chinese-language inscription, in fact, on a strip (dixon street) that runs for 150 metres at best. and these are bilingual signs. and they're not even official street signs, they're those horrible faux-ornamental gold plaques tacked onto the walls of banks etc. yes, there are chinese inscriptions on the awnings of most restaurants in chinatown, but three bilingual street signs...come on! do these really compromise anybody's sense of cultural identity? it's *chinatown* for god's sake. you would think chinese script would come with the territory, wouldn't you?

calling dannii a nazi gives her too much credit. i think she's to be pitied more than castigated. i mean, she's still struggling with the spelling of her own name, no? and don't get me started on that fucking vacuous music of hers...

gareth, australia's probably no more rightwing than most comparable industrialised english-speaking nations. i think there's a swing towards the right everywhere at the moment. as far as australia's concerned, bali obviously hasn't helped. nor does our current federal government, which is perhaps our most reactionary on record. having said that, labor just won the victorian state election over the weekend in a canter and the conservatives barely have enough elected members to form a shadow ministry. i'm pretty sure every state government in australia is currently a labor government too. the greens are becoming a credible political force here - their primary vote rose drastically in victoria this election and they just won a federal lower house seat in a recent by-election. an anti-war rally in sydney over the weekend was also well attended - probably twice as many people there as there were in comparable rallies in '91 (just before operation desert storm was launched).

having said that, the majority of australians voted against becoming a republic a couple of years back and john howard's (australian prime minister) approval rating continues to soar in the polls, so maybe it's worse than i care to admit. come on, can we talk about the cricket instead?

They should be in Australian.

'It' meaning her views, not the article.

no, I'm saying that because the linked to article actually does seem to suggest that she holds racist opinions (unlike the original post), she therefore needs to be adjusted. i.e. I am accepting that Dannii is a BAD person.

and yes, Killian is otm wrt my original point.

Lazy reactionary thinking posing as post-ideological clearsightedness can be one of ILX's least attractive traits.

Maybe in the actual interview she speaks warmly of Le Pen, who is a racist fuck. I haven't read the interview, and am unlikely to, as GQ is not one of the magazines I read.

"speaking warmly" of Le Pen, innocuous?"

There wasn't sufficient evidence in the first piece that she was "speaking warmly" of Le Pen. There's nothing wrong with demanding more conclusive proof.

Also, does anyone remember Jason Donovan on the BBC1 quiz show "Scruples" in the late '80s? When faced with the question "is it right for workers to cross picket lines in strikes," Mr Donovan replied that not only was it right to do so, but that pickets should be shot anyway.

I am dimly aware that Queensland is kind of Oz' equivalent to the Deep South in the USA, but even so ...

Because you have to be of that race to like something by that race? Is that a retarded way of thinking or what?

That nazi kitten is cute and "Neon Nights" is better than anything Clapton ever did so FNARR.

I don't know, but as I've repeatedly tried to re-register and haven't had a single email with my password reach me, I'm quite glad

See I automatically assumed they meant that Danni was in The Coca-Cola Championship (also know as The Champions' League) compared to Clapton's Rymans League.

Eh, well, technically it doesn't, if she takes great care in hating immigrants of all races equally; "xenophobe" is the correct term I think.

For you, yes.

Danii Minogue in BNP 'support' storm

Australian pop star Dannii Minogue has attacked the British National Party after comments she made were used by the far right group as evidence that she supported their anti-immigration policies.

Minogue said her remarks in a magazine article about Asian immigration in Australia and right wing French politician Jean-Marie Le Pen, had been taken out of context.

The comments led to her being posted on the BNP website under the heading “Kylie’s sister backs the BNP” and prompted the Anti Nazi League to label her a racist and a hypocrite – being an immigrant to England herself.

But the Home and Away star turned singer told PA News she was “mortified” that she was associated with the party and said she would be taking legal action.

“I’m really, really upset about it,” she said.

“I’ve obviously been misquoted ... This is something very serious and something that I obviously have to be speaking to my lawyers about.”

Speaking of the Asian-born population in Queensland, Minogue, 31, told GQ magazine: “Even some of the street signs are in Asian!”

But she said she was only stating this as a fact and that she did not think it was a bad thing.

“Australia is the most multicultural melting pot of people. I’m completely proud of that,” she said.

“I grew up in Melbourne where mostly the people around where I lived were Greeks and Italians which I absolutely loved.

“And I said in parts of Queensland there’s lots of Asians and, you know, yes it’s true some street signs are in Asian. I wasn’t saying that was a bad thing.

“I’m mortified that I’m being connected with this website.”

Asked whether she was happy with the level of Asian immigration in Australia, Minogue said: “I can’t comment on the number of Asians around,” but repeated that she was glad Australia was a melting pot of cultures.

Minogue also told GQ she could see why Le Pen was so popular, saying: “I think he struck a chord with people.”

Here again she said she was merely stating a fact, not offering an opinion one way or another.

“I’m not understanding it as far as that I’m siding with anyone,” she told PA.

“But I’m saying that the fact that he has become popular, he must have struck a chord with people. People don’t follow someone for no reason.

“I’m not siding with the people that are following him, I don’t agree with what he’s saying, I don’t follow him at all.

“That’s an observation, the same as the observation that there’s street signs in Australia that are in Asian.”

A spokesman for the BNP said the party was not concerned by the singer’s threat of legal action.

“We only reproduced exactly what we read in GQ magazine so we have nothing to worry about,” the spokesman said.

“We don’t want to be discourteous to the poor girl, but why should she be worried by speaking her feelings?

“Anyway, We’ve got people in the BNP who are far better musicians. We’re into serious good white music like Mozart and Bach,” the spokesman added.

(apols if you were there, Barms)

are you sure?

Yet more liberal anti-semitism.

Haha that's what I was gonna say

Er... no. How do you work that one out?!

s1ocki : Dec 31st 2004 to Nov 29th 2005 is 11 months not 5 minutes. If that feels like 5 minutes to you, your life is nearly over! :)

There are alot of narrowminded people in the entertainment industry.
That is why there are no asians..or jews in the music industry and why they all need to be blond or dye their hair. It is very prejudice.

-- well, well, Tuesday, November 29, 2005

i like those naturally 'blond' asians. but some of them have to dye their hair

While Dannii is not in Clapton's musical league, her bigotry is identical.

well,well: You obviously have NO IDEA what you are talking about! MOST of the people in the music industry are Jews!!! From Ira Gershwin to the manager of the Beatles to Bob Dylan to fucking Madonna (I know that one doesn't really count). In fact the music industry was BUILT by Jews. The prejudice is yours!
s1ocki : Dec 31st 2004 to Nov 29th 2005 is 11 months not 5 minutes. If that feels like 5 minutes to you, your life is nearly over! :)

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Ira Gershwin famous for founding Columbia, Odeon, and Chess, as well as inventing the long playing phonograph record, iirc

boy oh boy this thread is a trove of advisable posts