"no skips"

I hate this shit

If you're over the age of 30, listen to albums like an adult.

lol whiney otm

yes, it's baby-brained stuff

correct

no skips helps to properly evaluate an album out of ten

a salute to the "no skips" warriors who listen to biggie's "fuck me (interlude)" in full each time they spin ready to die

i don't even understand what the gripe is here.

a salute to the "no skips" warriors who listen to biggie's "fuck me (interlude)" in full each time they spin ready to die

― ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Wednesday, August 9, 2023 1:20 PM bookmarkflaglink

best track on the album imho

also I don't think 'no skips' warriors mean they literally never skip a track on the album. it's just shorthand for 'no weak tracks'.

Yeah what's this about? I've only seen "no skips" used as a positive descriptor (i.e., "there are no tracks on this album that I skip").

(xp)

in the other thread there was discussion about whether an album could be a 10/10 if it had 'skips', and some people seem to have taken it unusually literally

but what the convo really boiled down to, when we take the jargon out, is

"can an album be a 10/10 if there are weak/filler tracks on it"
"No"
"yes, in fact, because if there are no weak/filler tracks, the band didn't take enough risks"
"does it really mean that though?"

and then almost everybody moved on last night

it's lazy gen z shorthand that discourages critical thought about why an album does or doesn't work

is skips the new scrubs? asking for another adult?

If you're over the age of 30, listen to albums like an adult.

― sean paul akerman (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, August 9, 2023 10:03 AM (twenty-nine minutes ago)

you mean, while cleaning your house or doing laundry or assembling furniture?

i'm having a hard time understanding why a simple bit of two word jargon 'discourages' anything. anybody is free to elaborate further or continue the discussion beyond the catchphrase, and like yesterday, we actually did. unless there's this big 'no skip' movement I'm missing on the net that has its own manifesto.

no skips is the new "All Lives Matter"

like...."10/10, no skips" doesn't necessarily mean 'because I like every song on this album, it is a flawless masterpiece', it's just a tossed off descriptor. there are plenty of albums with no weak tracks I listen to that aren't quite classics because their ceiling is B+ work, there are plenty of my favorite albums of all time that have a track I hate on them.

in the era of streaming it almost doesn't matter anyway, you can make your own custom playlists and excise what you don't want before you start playing, so the way we evaluate albums is still playing to the pre-digital era a bit.

lol sarahell

If you're over the age of 30, listen to albums like an adult.

― sean paul akerman (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, August 9, 2023 10:03 AM (twenty-nine minutes ago)

you mean, while cleaning your house or doing laundry or assembling furniture?

― sarahell, Wednesday, August 9, 2023 1:33 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

No, whilst existential dread

I keep hearing "no skips" in Coily's voice

i don't want no skips
a skip is a move that won't get no love from me
moving to the very next track
cos the last one's wack

My default is pretty much to listen to the whole album, to the point of going back to the last thing I remember hearing before I fell asleep and playing the the rest the next day, which is its own kneejerk type A thing. Though maybe it would be purer to not pass Go and start at the beginning again. Sometimes I do that, too.

But also (xxxps) yes, while doing odds and ends and rarely devoting anything like full attention. But I'd probably try to if I were writing music criticism.

unless there's this big 'no skip' movement I'm missing on the net that has its own manifesto

i suggest you don't download tiktok

Whilst I used to need use some amount of effort to successfully troll, these days I just have to casually remark that I skip half the tracks on Aja.

I never skip because once I have deleted a track from my library, it ceases to exist, even in memory.

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going back to the last thing I remember hearing before I fell asleep and playing the the rest the next day, which is its own kneejerk type A thing.

I often do this too, but I'll play the whole thing over in the morning. Sometimes nighttime vs. daytime play leads to perceiving the album differently the second time.

this was definitely a thing when I was young though to be fair that was back when everyone wanted to make their CDs 78 minutes long so they'd stick prank phone calls or 10 minutes of silence in there. the 90s were also the era of extreme frontloading, in fact a lot of the CDs I grew up with I can barely remember what anything on the 2nd half sounded like

but yea I don't think the people saying "no skips" mean they're actually skipping tracks

I do skip bad tracks though if they're bad and I already know they're bad because I'm not gonna live forever and don't want to hear bad music.

"Student Demonstration Time"

I skip "Jazz Police" all the time. Am I in trouble?

You are now *emails the jazz police*

No skips
I know what you're thinking
Leave that Dawn song playing
Don't skip it cos it hurts

I'd skip a lot of songs, but never Jazz Police, that's pure gold

it's by far the weakest track on that album ... but maybe you also like "I talk to the Wind" lol and we are just very different

I still can't tell if we're pissed at dilettantes who do skip or pedants who don't skip.
Which one are proper adults supposed to do?

the King Crimson song? yeah, it's pleasant enough

xp

i'm just here for Neando's song parodies and to clown Whiney

jazz police here, you need to slow down miss

I'm in a higher realm of KC listener, I always listen to all of "Moonchild".

is skips the new scrubs? asking for another adult?

― sarahell

my thoughts exactly

sleep “jerusalem” 10/10 no skips

lol

Lovesexy on CD 10/10 no skips

Yeah what's this about? I've only seen "no skips" used as a positive descriptor (i.e., "there are no tracks on this album that I skip").

― Nonhuman biologics enthusiast (morrisp),

I've heard it as a positive descriptor for decades.

I'm the low tier KC listener -- 20th Century Schizoid Man, In the Court of the Crimson King, Epitaph -- skip everything else on that album

Lovesexy on CD 10/10 no skips

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown)

otm

peter pumpkinhead was too good
they all skipped it when
e'er they could

i have a terrible attention span. listening to complete works is a way for me to kick my attention span in the ass and tell it who's boss. i'm not in here with you you're in here with me

also there should be a tool that reassembles commercial movies so you can watch them out of order in ways the artist didn't attend.

every film gets the David Lynch treatment. including Follow That Bird

People regularly skip through the Bible

― linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Thursday, 10 August 2023 15:58 (eighteen seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

for every banger like the intro track or absalom there's a bunch of filler tbf

I listen to albums straight through when I can, but a lot of it gets done in the car cos of life atm so whatever your first three songs on your album are better be amazing cos they're the ones I hear the most.

and I'll be goddamned if I'm gonna listen to "Stupid Mop" again

someone assembled a Pulp Fiction cut that displayed all the scenes in their actual chronological order, I thought that was pretty cool

i don't sit down but i have a record player in the living room so i listen when i'm cooking or picking up the house or working

i have a terrible attention span. listening to complete works is a way for me to kick my attention span in the ass and tell it who's boss. i'm not in here with you you're in here with me

― ivy., Thursday, 10 August 2023 15:58 (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink

the ultimate expression of listener supremacy: defiantly forcing the full album to be heard despite its wishes

during the pandemic actually I invested in a mediocre turntable and speakers and was buying lots of vinyl and listening that way actually made it more of an event for me and it was nice to engage with music like that again. the system somehow got damaged in transit when I moved so it doesn't work, and now I'm in an apartment and don't want to piss neighbors off anyway, so it's pretty much digital headphones listening.

but I can't take having cans on my head for too long either so I have a beat up Sonos that I drag out on occasion to play stuff like rap where I can't take the shitty non-bass of my headphones

i skip stuff on my phone if i'm on a walk or in the car but i never skip on vinyl cuz it seems like too much work

i listened to "stupid mop" the other week! it's dope

for every banger like the intro track or absalom there's a bunch of filler tbf

― imago, Thursday, August 10, 2023 8:59 AM (one minute ago)

can't believe no one else reps for Numbers ... y'all be skipping Numbers? You clearly don't "get" the Bible

most of my concentrated listening occurs through headphones, on walks, which usually last 30-60 mins to begin with, a perfect amount of time to really focus on the detail of a record while walking in a circle and looking at trees and water. if you have a convenient place to take walks: take one, listen to a record, it's nice

i never have time to devote to my turntable (and i have roommates so i'm always worried about taking over the sound of the apartment) but when i do it's great

otm re walking and listening. i just listened to an album for the first time while strolling through a park myself. it owns

there was even time at the end of the walk to go back and listen to a few selected tracks i'd really enjoyed

in a way my going to digital only hurt my music listening habit. I mostly did because I had two CD players break down in a year and I was tired of spending money to replace them, and also, the space CDs took up, and also lol my terrible organization skills.

but in those days it was easier for me to commit to what to listen to as I had to seek the item out and put it on and I didn't feel like getting up a million times to change it. plus, i enjoyed the release day deliveries from Amazon/wherever I ordered them from, opening the package and throwing on. Digital, like streaming services, gives me too much access at once and too easy to change my mind on what to listen to, as I do frequently. likewise, not having a tangible product I can hold onto. I don't see myself going back to it though, even with a portable discman and having a cd player in my car, because it's just product I'll wind up not taking care of and don't have room for in this house.

which is why I liked my little temporary vinyl experiment so much! it was really exciting when USPS Informed Mail would tell me I had a package coming and got to throw on a new rekkid.

but hey whatever. digital made me more selective in some ways. "you want me to keep listening? fuck you, make me!"

(mind you I purchase all of my digital albums, lest anybody think I turned into the "fuck buying albums, it's MERCHANDISE that pays the band!" crew)

I can't remember the last time I listened to an album all the way through on one listen. I usually listen to 3-4 tracks in one go then leave it...

^bait. also, praxis

Protect innocent albums from Zoomers with this one weird trick:

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I'm with Neanderthal here, though collecting vinyl makes zero sense from a logical standpoint I think you can say that about listening to music in general. and so maybe there really is something to the idea that, if you're paying money for it, and finding space in your house to store it, and physically getting up to put the thing on, and maybe even having to clean and care for it once in a while, then emotionally you get a connection to it which helps you appreciate the music more, even the tracks you don't like. I mean I've got tons of LPs that I never really cared for as one of 8000 albums in my iTunes library, that now I actually dig, at least partially. I mean how many CDs did y'all buy as a teenager that made you go "eh, this isn't really good, but I paid $15 for it so I might as well learn to like it"? Which likely made some obscure album track like, I dunno...say, "Sunflowers" by Everclear somehow emotionally significant for you? idk I think that shit is really cool.

I used to listen to full albums in the car, now I'm driving my kids around a lot and they talk all the time so it doesn't really work. I still have a playlist of my 2000+ "favorite" songs that's always on shuffle, and while yes this is a very awesome thing to be able to have I also have a lot of solo car rides where I'm just hitting the skip button for 5 minutes. Sometimes when you have everything you have nothing.

yeah like...I struggle to find the sweet spot I'm in the mood for somedays, so it winds up being trial and error.

the other day I was listening to death metal and I got a feeling of nausea and fatigue, partially from the 99 degree sun bearing down on me through my windshield, from overeating, and from...well...constipation probably, and so days later my brain is associating that nausea with the music. i hate classical conditioning.

I mean how many CDs did y'all buy as a teenager that made you go "eh, this isn't really good, but I paid $15 for it so I might as well learn to like it"?

lol some of us were adults by the time CDs were the dominant form of music recording. ... and you could sell them back to the store if you didn't like them! And for those of us who worked "in the industry" we made up for the shitty wages we got paid by selling the promos we received to the record store. I am sure unperson could confirm.

It’s interesting that like when thinking about “classic albums that have skips”, my brain recherches to the 90s and early 00s when I was listening on CD; funny, too, that Radiohead is mentioned, for a band who has released a number of albums that people deem to be “classic albums” there isn’t a single one of them that I’d believe you if you said it was “no skips”. Even In Rainbows has “Faust Arp” on it

But yeah I mentioned Tindersticks s/t but I do remember feeling and talking with others about the fact that it is a remarkably long 80 minute album with “no skips”, and one of the few (maybe the only) album I felt that way about in the CD era

radiohead albums are "all skips" for me tbh

I mean how many CDs did y'all buy as a teenager that made you go "eh, this isn't really good, but I paid $15 for it so I might as well learn to like it"?

i bought so many $18 CDs as a teen but never really force-fed myself anything i wasn't feeling. honestly the CD cost back then and my economic demographic pushed me into my vinyl habit, back when one could find an early pressing of Exile on Main St. for $5, or On the Beach for $3, or buy up all the Steely Dan albums for $15. that's kinda how i got into a lot of music, and developed my listening habits. not that i didn't buy a bunch of CDs too, i was just careful about only buying what i really wanted. the '92-'97 era for me was a big one in that regard.

Keep thinking this thread is about off-brand sneakers

I bought Anthrax's Volume 8: The Threat is Real, which I"d wanted for weeks, and spent almost $20 on it, which was a lot for me, and on the first listen I fucking hated it so much. tried to force myself to like it but after three or four listens decided it was a coaster.

was so mad about that failed investment that when I got signed on to review for Satan Stole My Teddybear, I immediately wrote a review shitting on it and lamenting the lost $20, which made the website owner mad because he loves that album.

radiohead albums are "all skips" for me tbh

Oh I am decidedly an un-fan now but I liked them as a teenager, skips and all

Is it my imagination or wasn’t it a thing with CD players where you could program them to play tracks off a CD in a specified order? It was, wasn’t it?

Yes indeed you could

it's true, though literally no one ever did it and anyone who claims otherwise is a liar

I did! Honest... hook me up to ye olde polygraph.

lol I might have too once (maybe more than once while dubbing something to tape?), but I mostly remember it being supremely not worth the effort

I loved the really awkward invention for people whose cars still had tape decks. that little plastic cassette tape with a cord on the end that fed into a portable cd player, then you'd put the tape in the tape deck, and click play on your portable cd player, and it'd play cds through your tape deck.

My wife used one of those when we first met (along with a carrying case full of CDs in plastic sleeves). Eventually, the iPod was introduced, and she was excited to get one. Me, being who I am, was like – "whaddya need one of those for?"

I had a tape to aux cable/ipod thing in my VW for years

it's true, though literally no one ever did it and anyone who claims otherwise is a liar

My car has a tape deck and less than 100k miles on it … I am on my 2nd cassette adapter thing because they are cheaply made

I use it for my iPod because the car also has a cd player

My mom had a leased car for a couple years with a five-disc changer and she loaded it up with five CDs that were very familiar to me, and would have it on random at all times. It was kinda great? Like a collage of five great albums. idk if there's a contemporary listening experience that compares to that particular period in CD history

What were the 5 albums?

"The Spaghetti Incident?"
"Ooooooohhh... On the TLC Tip"
"Extreme II: Pornograffitti"
"Waiting to Exhale: Original Soundtrack Album"
Disc 3 of "Biograph"

I have deep nostalgia for the 6CD changer in my mum's old car from the late 00s and even early 10s (when she got another car that also had one). There's many albums - Viva la Vida maybe the most extreme example - where this association is and forever will be instant and inexorable.

"The Spaghetti Incident?"
"Ooooooohhh... On the TLC Tip"
"Extreme II: Pornograffitti"
"Waiting to Exhale: Original Soundtrack Album"
Disc 3 of "Biograph"

ahhh yeah. well here goes my dorkiest post ever. I used to play Magic: the Gathering at this comic shop that had one of those 6-disc changers. one of the CDs was TMBG's Flood and one was one of those compilations of songs from The Simpsons. When "Whistling in the Dark" came up in the shuffle I swore what I was hearing was Principal Skinner's voice. And it bothered me because I was so sure I'd seen every episode of the Simpsons and THAT song wasn't in it

Honestly? I remember. Blue, Chalk Mark (really good in this context!), Tracy Chapman s/t, Joan Armatrading something, and Chopin Nocturnes

Although I do appreciate Whiney’s visions of fgti’s mom

morrisp, not me

I blame you

I didn’t realize it wasn’t morris p’s mom :/