J M Jarre's Oxygene - seminal classic or Oldfieldesque prog nightmare?

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Just bought Oxygene second hand and, some 15 years since I last heard it, it sounds amazing. Can't recall any debate on the man since I've been checking ILM. What do people think? One thing that's struck me is how astonishingly experimental and downright weird it sounds for something that, if my memory serves me well, was sufficiently liked by the mainstream that even my Uncle David had a copy. Bits of Ox sound as unsettling as Walter Carlos; at other times it's fantastically mellow and luxurious. What was JMJ on? What's your take?

Daniel (dancity), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 01:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Penguins. All I can think of is Penguins.

Kim (Kim), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 01:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Elm St. material

Savin All My Love 4 u (Savin 4ll my (heart) 4u), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 05:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Strange you should ask as I was listening to it myself last night and thinking "But this is a bit rubbish really". Seeing as it was one of the first records (or cassettes in those days) I owned and I played it incessantly for a long time it doesn't strike me now as very important. Maybe it's just that I'm too familiar with it (the first 3 JMJ albums were used repeatedly by me as background listening while revising for exams during the early 80s) but listening on the way home from work last night was a distinctly underwhelming experience and it was only "Ox 5" and "Ox 6" that floated my particular boat. I've always preferred "Equinoxe" myself anyway, "Oxygene" is just TOO primitive really.

But then, it's still nowhere near as bad as "Oxygene 7 to 14" which is quite possibly the worst record I've ever heard, in much the same way as "Tubular bells 2" was almost as bad.

Rob M (Rob M), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 09:49 (twenty-two years ago)

The part that was a single is okay, but the rest sounded lame even in the 70s. I do like some later JMJ tho'.

p.s. "Bits of Ox" = potentially grebt band name/record title! ;-)

Jeff W, Tuesday, 3 December 2002 11:45 (twenty-two years ago)

I got it again a couple of years ago. I think it's fab.

phil jones (interstar), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 23:20 (twenty-two years ago)

He was married to the very lovely Charlotte Rampling, no? I have Equinoxe, but haven't played it since high school. It's probably a good soundtrack for your retro trip to the moon.

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 01:28 (twenty-two years ago)

"EQUINOXE" is the bomb!

bob snoom, Wednesday, 4 December 2002 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)

four years pass...

just watched Jarre and 3 men perform this classic on a stage surrounded by battered old moogs/analogue synths and a ton of cabling and gaffer tape. all performed in one take, no laptops, no midi gumph, no fucking laser harp, no big city backdrop, just bare lighting on a simple stage, a lot of swooshing synth noises, making it a total geek-fest as the guys were literally recabling machines during certain sections to make their next well loved noise.

and despite my inititial concerns, it was brilliant.

ok, i'll come clean, it was not live properly, but as part of the 30th anniversary cd/dvd thats on its way.

this album was my first introduction to electronic music, and even though it has become a cliche as the rhythms became casio keyboard standards in the 80s and it indeed sounds primitive, i still think it sounds great.

mark e, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 11:00 (seventeen years ago)

Early Jarre remains great. He has done some ill-advised stuff using sampling and FM/PCM synths, but that early analog stuff still rules.

And, yes, "Equinoxe" is the one. It's better than "Oxygene" IMO.

Geir Hongro, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 12:48 (seventeen years ago)

I've never heard either "Oxygene" or "Equinoxe", I should check 'em out, I reckon

Tom D., Tuesday, 6 November 2007 12:52 (seventeen years ago)

I remember a group of smoked out skinheads lying in complete darkness tripping balls to that one- hilarious. Frankly I can't take sides wrt to the thread title: it's both.

blunt, Tuesday, 6 November 2007 13:07 (seventeen years ago)

four months pass...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/7314713.stm

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 28 March 2008 18:25 (seventeen years ago)

Went to a bar in Romania and they were playing a JJM live DVD on a projector. It was one of the funniest thing I have ever seen. The man's a total prannock.

chap, Friday, 28 March 2008 18:28 (seventeen years ago)

At one point he was playing FUCKING LASER BEAMS with a look of UTMOST SERIOUSNESS on his little gallic face. Oh yeah, and the gig was taking place at the gates of THE FORBIDDEN CITY.

chap, Friday, 28 March 2008 18:29 (seventeen years ago)

eleven months pass...

just watched Jarre and 3 men perform this classic on a stage surrounded by battered old moogs/analogue synths and a ton of cabling and gaffer tape. all performed in one take, no laptops, no midi gumph, no fucking laser harp, no big city backdrop, just bare lighting on a simple stage, a lot of swooshing synth noises, making it a total geek-fest as the guys were literally recabling machines during certain sections to make their next well loved noise.

and despite my inititial concerns, it was brilliant.

ok, i'll come clean, it was not live properly, but as part of the 30th anniversary cd/dvd thats on its way.

this album was my first introduction to electronic music, and even though it has become a cliche as the rhythms became casio keyboard standards in the 80s and it indeed sounds primitive, i still think it sounds great.

I just bought this DVD, actually -- and it's brilliant. Seriously.

Naive Teen Idol, Saturday, 14 March 2009 13:36 (sixteen years ago)

"Oxygene" is great, but I still find that "Equinoxe" is even better. Surely, it is based on largely the same ideas, but he has better melodies and better arrangements in there than on "Oxygene". Plus the Yamaha CS-80 is very evident on that album with its absolutely breathtaking string sounds that sounded fantastically great with phasing added.

Geir Hongro, Saturday, 14 March 2009 14:28 (sixteen years ago)

Geir, you really sent me back to that record to hear it, except he didn't use the CS80 on Equinoxe.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 15 March 2009 02:00 (sixteen years ago)

OK. I guess the string sound on the CS60 sounded roughly the same way.

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 15 March 2009 22:29 (sixteen years ago)

Hmmm. Seeing as the CS-80 wasn't released until 1977, I guess Stevie Wonder must have used a CS-60 on "Village Ghetto Land" and "Pastime Paradise" as well.

Anyways, the CS-80 was a wonderful synth. Of course it was way too heavy and way too expensive, but Arturia's brilliant softsynth version has rectified that. Maybe my favourite synth ever :)

Geir Hongro, Sunday, 15 March 2009 22:33 (sixteen years ago)

Actually, Stevie Wonder used the GX-1, aka the Dream Machine on Songs in the Key of Life. That thing is, like, the ultimate analog polyphonic -- it's all over late-period Abba as well.

I own the Arturia as well -- it is pretty cool.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 16 March 2009 00:01 (sixteen years ago)

Though I wouldn't say it makes the CS-80 irrelevant.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 16 March 2009 00:12 (sixteen years ago)

That thing is, like, the ultimate analog polyphonic -- it's all over late-period Abba as well.

Hmmm.. Didn't know but can imagine. Same soft sound. With ABBA it is impossible to see exactly what kind of synths Benny Andersson used, as he would always build them into his "grand piano".

Geir Hongro, Monday, 16 March 2009 01:42 (sixteen years ago)

I was about to ask if Steve Winwood used it, as the synth sounds in his own work from that era also has the same soft quality. Then, looking at this link, it appears that he used a CS-80.

Geir Hongro, Monday, 16 March 2009 03:06 (sixteen years ago)

six years pass...

CLASSIC!

Granted, I don't play it anywhere near as much as Kraftwerk's classic releases, but whenever I do it always more than hits the spot. Strangely though, I haven't got into Equinoxe anywhere near as much, even though I know a fair few people who claim it's the best JMJ record.

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Monday, 24 August 2015 23:13 (nine years ago)

I would have had trouble liking these albums as much as I did in junior high if the old promo videos had been my first encounter with them, but from my current vantage point I am really grateful they are all up. the one for 'zoolookologie' is humble and self-effacing by comparison to this one. I won't link to equinoxe 5 and magnetic fields 2, but fans of self-hatred and the video for zoolookologie, you know who you are

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kSIMVnPA994

Milton Parker, Monday, 24 August 2015 23:24 (nine years ago)

'Oxygene IV' alone is all-time, an absolute evergreen track that keeps retaining its freshness for me when I should have got tired of it a long time ago!

You’re being too simplistic and you’re insulting my poor heart (Turrican), Monday, 24 August 2015 23:30 (nine years ago)

I almost started a poll they are all so incredible to me

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MO7--KBgpAQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w434qhNJMdw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-F36bJ57TmM

^^ that one's actually good, directed by Jeunet & Caro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIeAt5invw0

^^ beyond human criticism or judgement

Milton Parker, Monday, 24 August 2015 23:36 (nine years ago)

Wow, way to ramp up the guilt aspect of a guilty pleasure, JMJ.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 10:11 (nine years ago)

(I had forgotten how great Zoolookologie is, though.)

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 25 August 2015 10:23 (nine years ago)

six years pass...

But then, it's still nowhere near as bad as "Oxygene 7 to 14" which is quite possibly the worst record I've ever heard, in much the same way as "Tubular bells 2" was almost as bad.

picked up 'Oxygene 7-14' this week and expected the worst, but nope.
it's a very fine continuation of the original album.
yeah, the sonics are a little beefier at times, but that's to be expected.
on the whole it has a very similar sound and atmosphere to the original album.

that said, cannot get over the fact that the comment i quoted was from 19 years ago.
i still regard Oxygene II as one of JMJs new releases.

mark e, Wednesday, 15 December 2021 22:46 (three years ago)

yea if you dig the original I don't see why you wouldn't like the sequel. hell even Oxy 3 mostly succeeds at capturing the mood of the first. it's not like anyone else is making this kind of music.

frogbs, Thursday, 16 December 2021 03:39 (three years ago)

hell even Oxy 3 mostly succeeds at capturing the mood of the first. it's not like anyone else is making this kind of music.

until you said that, i had completely forgotten there was a third part to the series.

mark e, Thursday, 16 December 2021 10:28 (three years ago)

"Prog nightmare"? Oxygène is a pleasant record, but Mike Oldfield is a way better composer, player and producer than Jarre, and I'd say he has more of an ear for pop as well.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 16 December 2021 15:28 (three years ago)


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