We demand a Glam Rock box set!

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I mean, really, is this the best that we can do?

(not that I didn't play the hell out of it)

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 01:29 (twenty-two years ago)

The inclusion of the Faces is baffling - and no Gary Glitter?!!?

Shakey Mo Collier, Tuesday, 3 December 2002 01:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe he's a persona non grata after the sex charges?

Dave Beckhouse (Dave Beckhouse), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 02:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I would suspect so, although about a year ago I did hear "Another Rock'n'Roll Christmas" in public. Oh the tawdriness of Xmas compilations (presumably one released before 1997).

robin carmody (robin carmody), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 03:38 (twenty-two years ago)

should we round out the top 100 perhaps? ;) (altho' some of the 42 on that comp ain't glam rock - The Faces I'll accept, but not "Perfect Day"!)

43. "The Bitch Is Back" - Elton John"
44. "I'm The Leader Of The Gang (I Am)" - Gary Glitter
45. "See My Baby Jive" - Wizzard

Jeff W, Tuesday, 3 December 2002 11:02 (twenty-two years ago)

What do/does Blackfoot Sue sound like?

Arthur (Arthur), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 18:00 (twenty-two years ago)

STOMP-STOMP-STOMP-STOMP-
guitar riff: nyow nyow-nyow nyaaoooow nyaow nyaooow, nyow nyow-nyow nyaaoooow nyaow nyaooow, nyow nyow-nyow nyow-nynow-nyow-nyow-nyow-nyow nyow-nyow nyaaaooow (repeat ad nauseum)

it's grebt!

Jeff W, Tuesday, 3 December 2002 18:11 (twenty-two years ago)

(um, that's "Standing In The Road" anyway. I have no idea if they did anything else)

Jeff W, Tuesday, 3 December 2002 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)

I dunno, maybe my idea of glam is off the mark. No Hanoi Rocks? Maybe they were too late?

webcrack (music=crack), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 22:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Real glam (Bowie, Bolan, Lou Reed, Iggy, Roxy Music) or lager-lads-in-platforms glam (Mud, Sweet, Slade)? There's 2 distinct genres there and I'm not sure I can get Hanoi Rocks into either of them.

Zora (Zora), Tuesday, 3 December 2002 23:34 (twenty-two years ago)

(altho' some of the 42 on that comp ain't glam rock - The Faces I'll accept, but not "Perfect Day"!)

It's a marketing thing...Transformer is Lou Reed's Glam album, and "Perfect Day" was a hit in an all-star version in the early 90's, so they chose that 'un.

Real glam (Bowie, Bolan, Lou Reed, Iggy, Roxy Music) or lager-lads-in-platforms glam (Mud, Sweet, Slade)? There's 2 distinct genres there and I'm not sure I can get Hanoi Rocks into either of them.

Aw c'mon man, no segregation! The diference between Slade and Bolan isn't that much larger than the one between, say, Ultravox and Slaughter & The Dogs (who rub shoulders regularly on Punk/New Wave box sets.) I want a Glam Rock box set mainly to find "nuggets" type minor players, tho, I'll admit.

I dunno, maybe my idea of glam is off the mark. No Hanoi Rocks? Maybe they were too late?

You're thinking of Glam Metal (or Hair Metal), which isn't what we're discussing at all- see the "Glam Rock" entry in the All Music Guide:

"Often confused with '80s hair metal (at least by American listeners), glam rock was an almost entirely British phenomenon that became wildly popular during the first half of the '70s. Glam rock was fairly simple, crunchy guitar rock put across with outrageous theatricality. Most of the music was unabashedly catchy, with melodies drawn from teenage bubblegum pop and hip-shaking rhythms from early rock & roll. But those innocent-sounding influences were belied by the delivery, which was all campy, glitzy showmanship and sexuality. In fact, one of the main reasons glam never caught on in the U.S. was that glam artists intentionally played around with gender conventions, dressing themselves up in outlandish, androgynous costumes and makeup. In general, glam rock fell into two schools. The most prevalent one was the intentionally disposable trashiness of T. Rex; leader Marc Bolan pioneered glam's fashion sense and crafted music that was all sexy, silly fun — or, to put it another way, music where the surface was the substance. Artists like Gary Glitter, Sweet, and Slade followed the T. Rex aesthetic, in the process creating a substyle known as glitter (which was even more exclusively British). But for a style which relied so heavily on image, glam had a surprisingly arty side too, epitomized by David Bowie and Roxy Music. This school was more grandly dramatic and ambitious, both sonically and lyrically; glam was an opportunity for these artists to manipulate their personas at will, making their senses of style part of the overall artistic statement, and exploring the darkness lurking under the music's stylish, glitzy surface. Apart from them, the lone American glam-rock band was the New York Dolls, whose raw, Stonesy proto-punk sounded different from their British peers, but whose trashy aesthetic and transvestite wardrobe clearly put them in the same camp. Glam effectively began with T. Rex's 1971 hit Electric Warrior, but 1972 was its real breakthrough year: T. Rex consolidated its popularity with The Slider; David Bowie released his classic Ziggy Stardust and produced Mott the Hoople's star-making All the Young Dudes album; Roxy Music issued their groundbreaking debut; and the New York Dolls embarked on their first tour of England. Glam rock's creative peak was over by 1975, as most of its remaining major artists were either moving away from the style or releasing subpar work. However, glam had a definite influence on the kids who grew up to head the British punk movement, and an even bigger impact on the theatrical gloom of post-punk. And, of course, glam rock was extremely important to '80s pop-metal, though apart from Def Leppard, many of those bands were American and had minimal knowledge of the original sources."

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 00:30 (twenty-two years ago)

STOMP-STOMP-STOMP-STOMP-
guitar riff: nyow nyow-nyow nyaaoooow nyaow nyaooow, nyow nyow-nyow nyaaoooow nyaow nyaooow, nyow nyow-nyow nyow-nynow-nyow-nyow-nyow-nyow nyow-nyow nyaaaooow (repeat ad nauseum)

Oh my God I love that song, Jeff!!! Now what's the Cozy Powell one like?

Also--

WE WANT JOBRAITH! WE WANT JOBRAITH! WE WANT JOBRAITH!

Arthur (Arthur), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 01:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Sweetie darling, you'll get your Jobriath (note spelling) when Rhino Handmade re-releases both LPs sometime next year. Of course, I *have* them already...

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 01:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh shut up Edina, who do you think told you about those reissues, anyway? ;<{|> Bok bok, I'm a glam chicken emoticon.

You know, I heard they're on the way, way, way backburner, the JO-BRI-ATH CDS. Have you heard different?

Arthur (Arthur), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 01:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Does anything from Rocky Horror count?

Curtis Stephens, Wednesday, 4 December 2002 01:41 (twenty-two years ago)

I wouldn't have thought so, though without glam Rocky Horror would never have happened. Frank has some glittery platforms, doesn't he?... but the music isn't what I'd think of as glam. However, as I've been slapped for segragationism already p'raps I'll bog off now.

Zora (Zora), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 18:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks for the clarification, Zora and Daniel, as an American listenter I am much more familiar w/Glam Metal and apparently have confused the genres for some time. The breakdown does make a bit more sense to me; I always wondered how Poison and Bowie could be considered as the same genre.

webcrack (music=crack), Wednesday, 4 December 2002 23:16 (twenty-two years ago)

ten years pass...

Will this do the trick?

http://www.superdeluxeedition.com/news/oh-yes-we-can-love-a-history-of-glam-rock-5-disc-box-set/

DISC ONE

1. Noel Coward: Mad Dogs And Englishmen
2. Chuck Berry: Around and Around
3. Little Richard: Ooh My Soul
4. Vince Taylor & the Playboys: Brand New Cadillac
5. Max Harris: Gurney Slade
6. Anthony Newley: Bee Bom
7. Billy Fury: Jealousy
8. Howlin’ Wolf: You’ll Be Mine
9. Jacques Brel: Amsterdam
10. The Velvet Underground: I’m Waiting For My Man
11. David Bowie: London Bye Ta-Ta
12. The Stooges: 1969
13. The Kinks: Lola
14. Hot Legs: Neanderthal Man
15. Burundi Steiphenson Black : Burundi Black
16. Curved Air: Back Street Luv
17. Fanny: Charity Ball
18. The Murgatroyd Band: Theme From Magpie
19. Chicory Tip: Son Of My Father
20. T Rex: Hot Love
21. Slade :Coz I Luv You
DISC TWO

1. Mott The Hoople: All The Young Dudes
2. Lou Reed: Walk On the Wild Side
3. Roxy Music: Virginia Plain
4. T Rex: Metal Guru
5. The Osmonds: Crazy Horses
6. Dana Gillespie: Andy Warhol
7. Suzi Quatro: Can The Can
8. New York Dolls: Looking For A Kiss
9. Nazareth: This Flight Tonight
10. Sweet: Ballroom Blitz
11. Cozy Powell: Dance With The Devil
12. David Essex: Rock On
13. Wizzard : Angel Fingers (A Teen Ballad)
14. Elton John: Bennie and the Jets
15. Barry Blue: Dancing On A Saturday Night
16. Alvin Stardust: Ma Coo Ca Choo
17. Lulu: The Man Who Sold The World
18. Mick Ronson: Growing Up And I’m Fine
19. Cockney Rebel: Judy Teen
DISC THREE

1. Sparks: This Town Ain’t Big Enough For Both Of Us
2. Hello: Tell Him
3. Mud: Tiger Feet
4. Jook : Bish Bash Bosh
5. Bryan Ferry: The ‘In’ Crowd
6. Patti Smith Group: Piss Factory
7. Cockney Rebel: Tumbling Down
8. The Glitter Band: Angel Face
9. Kenny: The Bump
10. The Rubettes: Sugar Baby Love
11. Fox: Only You Can
12. KISS: Rock And Roll All Nite
13. Sailor: A Glass Of Champagne
14. Ian Hunter : Once Bitten Twice Shy
15. Arrows: I Love Rock and Roll
16. Bay City Rollers: Saturday Night
DISC FOUR

1. Blondie: Rip Her To Shreds
2. Be Bop Deluxe: Ships In the Night
3. The Runaways: Cherry Bomb
4. ELO: Rockaria!
5. The Ramones: Sheena Is A Punk Rocker
6. The RAH Band: The Crunch
7. Rock Follies: OK?
8. Ultravox!: RockWrok
9. Ace Frehley: New York Groove
10. Judas Priest: Take On The World
11. Boney M: Rasputin
12. Generation X: Valley Of the Dolls
13. Human League: Rock and Roll Part Two / Nightclubbing
14. Magazine: The Light  Pours Out Of Me
15. Adam and the Ants: “Antmusic”
16. Department S : Solid Gold Easy Action
17. Bauhaus: Ziggy Stardust
18. Dead Or Alive: That’s The Way (I Like It)
DISC FIVE

1. Sigue Sigue Sputnik : Love Missile F1-11
2. Hanoi Rocks : Up Around The Bend
3. Sisters Of Mercy: Emma
4. Morrissey: Glamorous Glue
5. Suede: Metal Mickey
6. The Fall: Glam Racket
7. Carter USM: Glam Rock Cops
8. Glam Metal Detectives: Everybody Up
9. Saint Etienne :Star
10. Earl Brutus: The SAS and the Glam That Goes With It
11. Gay Dad: To Earth With Love
12. Marilyn Manson: The Dope Show
13. Pulp: We Are The Boys
14. The Darkness: Growing On Me
15. Goldfrapp: Strict Machine
16. The Ark: Clamour For Glamour
17. Foxy Shazam: Unstoppable

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Friday, 16 August 2013 12:45 (twelve years ago)

eight years pass...

digging around in a shop i rarely visit this week i chanced upon this promo only compilation of chinn/chapman tracks

by far one of the best compilations i have added to the the archive in a very long time

https://www.discogs.com/release/9182425-Various-Glamour-And-Gold

mark e, Saturday, 6 November 2021 22:41 (three years ago)

one year passes...

today for a coin i found probably the ultimate glam rock boxset that came out recently.
a few standards that are well known,
but the rest of the 4cds are packed with random one-offs.
it's an absolute joyous listen, with a really good booklet with a tongue-in-cheek rundown on all the featured tracks.

https://www.discogs.com/release/22559465-Various-Can-The-Glam-80-Glambusters-Rockers-Shockers-And-Teenyboppers-From-The-70s

mark e, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 18:24 (two years ago)

That looks a lot of fun.

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 18:41 (two years ago)

its just chocka with stuff i have never heard,
some cheese, some bovva rock, some stuff that will never be put on a comp ever again,
but yup, a lot of fun.

mark e, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 18:45 (two years ago)

I thought Junk Shop Glam was a trend that got quite popular at one time. Is that since 2002?
The kind of garage level unknown stuff taht had some merit in a few places.

Stevo, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 18:55 (two years ago)

not a phrase i have heard before ..
but i suspect a few of these tracks qualify for such a tag.

mark e, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 18:59 (two years ago)

Junk Shop Glam is even more obscure than the bands featured on Can the Glam. There were a few comps around 2005 or on the RPM reissue label under that tag, curated primarily by Bob Stanley, iirc. Milk N' Cookies, Hammersmith Gorillas, Spunky Spider, Crushed Butler, the band names alone screamed "instant purchase."

henry s, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 19:21 (two years ago)

ahh.
of course should i ever see a comp on RPM, then its always an instant purchase ..

mark e, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 19:23 (two years ago)

Yeah, there were a few out around then. I’ve got this https://www.discogs.com/master/735925-Various-Velvet-Tinmine-20-Junk-Shop-Glam-Ravers which I’ll need to dig out.

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 19:48 (two years ago)

just remembered : RPM = another Cherry Red sub-label,
probably why there are some of the same tracks on both.
still would totally get that comp if i had the chance.

mark e, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 19:57 (two years ago)

Crushed Butler

there was a CD reissue of Crushed Butler, really great...some real reprobates, the liner notes said their loyal fanbase were from a local boxing club

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 20:05 (two years ago)

for the non-junkyard aspect, a few years back i spotted this in the racks of a local shop for a few pounds.
didn't get it at the time, but went home and did the usual.
yeah, i rushed back and grabbed it.
a brilliant 1cd compilation of well known stuff produced by Chinn and Chapman.

https://www.discogs.com/release/9182425-Various-Glamour-And-Gold

mark e, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 20:09 (two years ago)

and the other mainstay in my collection is this 2cd that scott of these parts recommended years ago that was only released in germany.
again with truly dreadful coverart.
following his nudge i tracked a copy down, and yeah, its a fantastic 2cd set full of classics and randoms.

the bottom line is : i probably have enough now.

famous last words.

https://www.discogs.com/release/1113515-Various-Dynamite-The-Best-Of-Glam-Rock

mark e, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 20:16 (two years ago)

recently had the chance to see Don Bolles of the Germs DJ behind the bar at Grumpy's Bar in Mpls (owned by Tom Hazelmeyer of Amphetamine Reptile), we chatted a bunch and he had a road case of these incredible rare junk shop glam 45s, dude is a real character, had a ball listening to him explain each one before he spun it.

couple highlights

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opBj3kXPTA4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3cqCkJAZqLQ

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 20:18 (two years ago)

wow.
thread delivers.
i had no idea re this whole sub-genre, and now i need more !
loving both those ..
although, the robert calvert is surely glam revival as opposed to original era ?

mark e, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 20:22 (two years ago)

no it's 74 - i had never heard of any of the stuff he was playing, according to wiki

Musicians who appeared on the album include members of Hawkwind, The Pink Fairies, Brian Eno (although not credited as Eno), Arthur Brown and Adrian Wagner. The spoken sketches are primarily performed by Calvert, Viv Stanshall and Jim Capaldi.

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 20:36 (two years ago)

I have that Captain Lockheed & The Starfighters 7", never really thought of it as glam rock though because of the Hawkwind/Pink Fairies connection, but I can see it fitting in with a glam set. xp - the single is actually 1973

there have been quite a few comps of this stuff by now, some good ones apart from the already mentioned Velvet Tinmine:

All The Young Droogs
Bootboy Discotheque
Glitterbest
Killed By Glam #1

these are less good imo but if you want even more glam obscurities:

Blitzing The Ballroom
Glitter From The Litter Bin
Killed By Glam #2
Knuckle Girls

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 20:38 (two years ago)

The Calvert album has some decent songs, the comedy routines are a little tiresome.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 20:40 (two years ago)

re calvert : well i never.
live and learn.
i really would love to find some pink fairies in my charity shops.

mark e, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 20:44 (two years ago)

mojo once compiled a brilliant cd that covered the bovver/glam era :

https://www.discogs.com/release/1717225-Various-All-The-Young-Dudes

mark e, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 20:46 (two years ago)

which reminds me ..
i always forget to add TSAHB.
there is definitely not enough love on ILM re their chaos.

mark e, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 20:49 (two years ago)

Cherry Red put this out recently, haven't heard it because I've got most of it already, but covers some of this stuff along with adjacent rockers, punks and early oi stuff:

https://www.discogs.com/release/27309966-Various-Where-Have-All-The-Boot-Boys-Gone-A-Celebration-Of-Yob-Rock-

of course since it's a Cherry Red comp, a track is duplicated in place of another song, I think it's a rule there has to be a mistake somewhere

Colonel Poo, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 20:55 (two years ago)

ooh yeah, that looks tasty.
TSAHB are of course featured with the track i had in mind.
a couple of years ago i found one of those skinny boxsets with all of TSAHB albums on cd for £1.
had never heard them before but at the price i had to.
absolutely no regrets.

mark e, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 21:02 (two years ago)

mojo once compiled a brilliant cd that covered the bovver/glam era :

https://www.discogs.com/release/1717225-Various-All-The-Young-Dudes

― mark e, Wednesday, July 12, 2023 3:46 PM (twenty-seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

people like to bust on mojo but they really did some amazing comp cds

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 21:15 (two years ago)

totally agree.

mark e, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 21:16 (two years ago)

there is also this recent part two to the "can the glam" set:
https://www.discogs.com/release/26196029-Various-Teenage-Glampage-80-Glambusters-Rockers-Shockers-And-Teenyboppers-From-The-70s

Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, 13 July 2023 00:39 (two years ago)

and another one
https://www.discogs.com/master/2161162-Various-Boobs-The-Junkshop-Glam-Discotheque

Thus Sang Freud, Thursday, 13 July 2023 00:49 (two years ago)

wtf is a bovver

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 13 July 2023 00:51 (two years ago)

Noun
bovver boy (plural bovver boys)

(UK) A hooligan who creates bother (trouble), specifically a member of a skinhead gang.

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 13 July 2023 07:14 (two years ago)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bovver_boot

Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 July 2023 07:21 (two years ago)

Also mentioned in this helpful guide to UK youth culture ca. 1969 from the unlikely source of Peter Wyngarde...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoBVuxuBdIQ

Body Odour Ultra Low Emission Zone (Tom D.), Thursday, 13 July 2023 07:45 (two years ago)

I see my demands have been met multiple times over the years. Good, but everyone's still on notice.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 13 July 2023 10:46 (two years ago)


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