worst band name or record label name change of the social justice & social media era

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
Lady Antebellum —> Lady A 13
Dixie Chicks —> The Chicks 7
Young Turks —> Young 5
Mulatto —> Latto 5
Dead Girlfriends —> Default Genders 4
The Black Madonna —> The Blessed Madonna 3
Rich Chigga —> Rich Brian 3
Am I forgetting one? 3
the Morning Benders —> POP ETC 3
Viet Cong —> Preoccupations 2
One Little Indian —> One Little Independent 2
Slaves —> Soft Play 1
Whities —> AD 93 0
Girl Band —> Gilla Band 0


kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 18:45 (eight months ago) link

[British] Sea Power doesn't really count

kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 18:47 (eight months ago) link

Scalping -> Scaler

As this band has grown and the opportunity to travel further has presented itself, we've become aware of the wider context surrounding our previous name and how offensive it can be to Indigenous cultures. We want to apologise to anyone affected by this, that was never our intent.

— SCALER (fka SCALPING) (@scalerband) September 4, 2023

50 Favorite Jordans (Jordan), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 18:47 (eight months ago) link

I also forgot

Andrew Jackson Jihad --> AJJ

kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 18:48 (eight months ago) link

Dead Girlfriends —> Default Genders

this somehow feels more offensive or at least easier to intepret as such

ciderpress, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 18:50 (eight months ago) link

I forgot about Rich Brian, an amazing name

50 Favorite Jordans (Jordan), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 18:50 (eight months ago) link

also i didn't know about Pearl Milling Company until now lol

ciderpress, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 18:50 (eight months ago) link

I had to look up why the Morning Benders was offensive

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 18:51 (eight months ago) link

It really is insane that a whole-ass band can put together a whole-ass record as "Viet Cong" and not one friend pulled them aside and said "Hmmm, maybe this isn't the best look"

kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 18:53 (eight months ago) link

Dixie Chicks, because Chicks is the name of another (imo better) band, whose existence they have accidentally erased, I know I have talked about this before, sorry.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 18:55 (eight months ago) link

Young Turks —> Young

This is pretty bad

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 18:57 (eight months ago) link

"Slaves" and "Soft Play" are both terrible band names, but for entirely different reasons, so well done there I guess

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 18:57 (eight months ago) link

DJ Joey Negro --> Dave Lee

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 18:59 (eight months ago) link

Scalping just changed their name to Scaler

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 19:00 (eight months ago) link

Oh I see that was mentioned upthread.

Say, has anyone heard of this band Insane Clown Posse?

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 19:03 (eight months ago) link

There's a French guy calling himself "NxxxxxS" who makes "phonk" music, and I would suspect he would be forced to change his name eventually, but the entire "phonk" aesthetic has kind of a suss relationship with black culture in its DNA

kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 19:04 (eight months ago) link

Let's see what happens if an AIDS Wolf reissue program kicks off.

Wasn't there an artist called Lady A who was not best pleased by the former Lady Antebellum bunch muscling in on her name?

PKD did a job on me (Matt #2), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 19:12 (eight months ago) link

What's problematic about the name "Lady Antebellum"?

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 19:14 (eight months ago) link

it's the word used to describe the pre-civil war south ("the good old days") by every touring minstrel show from 1870 to 1930

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 19:17 (eight months ago) link

I guess. It also just refers to the period before the Civil War (or, literally, any war).

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 19:21 (eight months ago) link

Probably gonna vote for Lady Antebellum just because of the whole "Hey, your new name? I've been using it for years — see you in court" thing.

But here's a potential write-in:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flex_(singer)

read-only (unperson), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 19:22 (eight months ago) link

Rich Brian

Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 19:22 (eight months ago) link

These guys keeping their name

Initially, the band had two running ideas for band names: Nazipenis and Turbonegro. They were advised that a band named Nazipenis would never sell records, so they chose Turbonegro as a more consumer-friendly choice.

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 19:23 (eight months ago) link

HAHA there's a whole thread for Flex under his....other name, which is the title of the thread

Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 19:23 (eight months ago) link

hated when Dying Fetus rebranded as Dolly Fingers

Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 19:24 (eight months ago) link

Jesus the reason behind Flex's "name" makes it somehow even worse!

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 19:24 (eight months ago) link

Then, without having finished the recording of that album, the producer asked him to record a song on the occasion of Mother's Day in Panama called "La balada de N****", although after the recording it was learned that his mother had died due to an expired medication in dialysis treatment.[5]

Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 19:25 (eight months ago) link

Dead Girlfriends had that name for all of five minutes, they were originally Elite Gymnastics

Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 19:34 (eight months ago) link

Flex was 2008, a pre-social justice era change afaic

Same with The Muslims --> The Soft Pack, also 2008

kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 19:39 (eight months ago) link

90s PC culture forced naked toddler to change their name to creed

your original display name is still visible (Left), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 19:45 (eight months ago) link

I didn't realise until now that TBM and TBM were the same artist

your original display name is still visible (Left), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 19:47 (eight months ago) link

you're forgetting when Anal Cunt changed their name to Pudenda A.C.

budo jeru, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 20:02 (eight months ago) link

the band name Viet Cong isn't half as offensive as the Presidents of the United States ftr

budo jeru, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 20:09 (eight months ago) link

the entire "phonk" aesthetic has kind of a suss relationship with black culture in its DNA

― kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, September 12, 2023 3:04 PM (one hour ago)

yeah but it's bcuz the entire genre is made exclusively by 11-13 white european & russian boys

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 September 2023 20:15 (eight months ago) link

Lady Antebellum struck me as tone-deaf right out of the gate, not malicious or defiant but coming from that gentry-level of Southern self-serving privilege that really irks me. From wiki

On the BBC Radio 2 Drivetime Show August 9, 2010, the band explained that the name comes from when the group did a photo shoot in historical costumes at antebellum houses.

Terrycoth Baphomet (bendy), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 20:17 (eight months ago) link

i have a special place in my heart for the bl4ck mad0nna one bcuz i remember 10 years ago saying to my friends "i'm not sure she should be calling herself that..." and being told in response "well no you don't get it, it's actually a reference to a classic art trope" and being like "uh huh..."

that said my vote is going to lady a for changing their name in the spirit of restorative justice and then immediately suing a black woman in order to steal her identity

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 12 September 2023 20:25 (eight months ago) link

Slaves —> Soft Play

holy shit

ivy., Tuesday, 12 September 2023 20:30 (eight months ago) link

Lady A is def the biggest fiasco of the bunch, plus it still technically has Antebellum in there, just shortened. Plus “Lady A” is kind of weird as a name for a whole band. I really don’t know what the alternative would be besides just changing the band name to “Lady” or fully alienating their audience by going with “Lady Antifacist” or something.

kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 20:43 (eight months ago) link

the Need You Nows

Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 20:44 (eight months ago) link

Lady Douchebag

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 20:44 (eight months ago) link

“The Chicks” is pretty aesthetically unpleasing too, though obv I understand the impulse

kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 20:44 (eight months ago) link

Though they are certainly all better justicewise, none of the new names actually improve on the original name except Rich Brian

kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 20:46 (eight months ago) link

One Little Indian —> One Little Independent

here is how it started...and then it sucked even more shit!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 20:49 (eight months ago) link

Lady Douchebag

― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, September 12, 2023 4:44 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

It's 2020, I'm a little douche and I need your name

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 20:54 (eight months ago) link

Love this poll

expected to google for the band Women to see that they changed their name to Wombats or something but nope!

band members via wikipedia:
Matthew Flegel – bass, percussion, vocals (2007-2012)
Michael Wallace – drums (2007-2012)
Christopher Reimer – guitar, samples, vocals (2007-2012; deceased)

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 20:59 (eight months ago) link

omg they are wrapped up with the band Viet Cong! I remember this now! Apparently another dude in the band started a group called Cindy Lee? What the actual fuck is wrong with these men?!?!

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:00 (eight months ago) link

Voted for Rich Brian bc it made me laugh and i needed to laugh desperately

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:01 (eight months ago) link

I can understand why Whities changed their name, but it was just referencing white labels, right?

50 Favorite Jordans (Jordan), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:07 (eight months ago) link

(It always takes me a minute to remember what AD 93 is, even though I get their emails like every week)

50 Favorite Jordans (Jordan), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:08 (eight months ago) link

Young Turks —> Young

This is pretty bad

they obviously spent about 0.5 seconds thinking about that.

I wonder if Scraping Foetus Off The Wheel and Big Black would have renamed if around now?

stirmonster, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:09 (eight months ago) link

Kate, I def did not invent the term “sex nerds”

kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 03:53 (eight months ago) link

Spinal Tap did iirc

Make the chats AI (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 05:35 (eight months ago) link

One Little Indian —> One Little Independent

here is how it started...and then it sucked even more shit!

― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 12 September 2023

Nah, quite a few examples in the poll predate OLI’s name change in 2020 - Preoccupations changed their name in 2015, Rich Brian changed his in 2018.

houdini said, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 06:38 (eight months ago) link

One band I was thinking might change their name is Black Kids, but they seem to be fairly inactive.

houdini said, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 06:41 (eight months ago) link

missing slaves -> rain city drive (there were two bands active last decade under the name 'slaves' and they both got a lot of shit for it and took a decade to change their names)

ufo, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 06:45 (eight months ago) link

"Men have been enslaving men for as long as we've had gods to hide behind,"
"Every man is a slave to what we love – whether it be women, drugs, music or sports. Through art we are all equals".

vs.

"Our band name relates to people not being in control of their day to day lives. Slaves was our way of getting off the paths we didn't want to walk down anymore. The music we make is motivational and aimed at people personally as well as collectively."

ufo, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 06:47 (eight months ago) link

voted POP ETC. that one is truly unfathomable

imago, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 07:44 (eight months ago) link

Kate, I def did not invent the term “sex nerds”

― kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten)

no of course not... there's an idea a lot of people have that we're like cruel, scary people who are into transgression for its own sake and maybe there are some people like that out there! but mostly the people i know are nerds. my favorite are the bob vila types. there's this whole subclass of kinksters whose main thing is building the most _amazing_ dungeon furniture. there are few things i'm worse at in the world than that kind of thing, personally, so i'm grateful there are people who can do that and like it!

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 16:05 (eight months ago) link

my favorite are the bob vila george clooney types.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oVd4X2ITfg

peace, man, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 16:11 (eight months ago) link

i'm sorry george clooney's character in that movie is a fuckin' amateur. i mean look at how janky that thing is. not only that, but he's reinventing the wheel. why bother when the sybian already exists? (to be fair the sybian may well have been the real-world inspiration for clooney's device.)

your real high-quality dungeon furniture isn't just supergluing a dildo to a chunk of wood. there's often serious engineering work involved, and, of course, _extensive_ consideration given to safety. literal unfinished two-by-fours attached to a pulley? give me a break. clooney's character is one of those arrogant clueless Big Dick Daddy Doms who keep showing up where they're not wanted and generally make people uncomfortable.

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 16:50 (eight months ago) link

four weeks pass...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 00:01 (seven months ago) link

this better be Rich Brian

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 00:07 (seven months ago) link

Definitely voting Lady Antebellum for the "let's deal with our problematic name by stealing the name of a Black artist and making her unfindable on streaming services" move.

Lily Dale, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 00:10 (seven months ago) link

I didn't know that "bender" was a gay slur. It sounds pretty inoffensive tbh

Dan S, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 00:17 (seven months ago) link

Futurama very not woke

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 00:18 (seven months ago) link

Every time I look at the choices, I get to Rich Brian and burst into laughter

the new drip king (DJP), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 00:20 (seven months ago) link

Had never heard Slaves/Soft Play before this thread. Terrible names but not bad, a less boring Idles.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 00:37 (seven months ago) link

omg they are wrapped up with the band Viet Cong! I remember this now! Apparently another dude in the band started a group called Cindy Lee? What the actual fuck is wrong with these men?!?!

― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, September 12, 2023 5:00 PM (four weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

that "dude" seems like they ID as nonbinary, not sure if that's a problem for you

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 00:50 (seven months ago) link

Aotearoa New Zealand band Shihad tried to break into the US market around the time of 9/11 and were advised to rebrand because their name apparently sounded too similar to jihad.

They renamed themselves Pacifier. Ugh.

After failing to break into the US market they returned to Aotearoa and reverted back to Shihad.

This is possibly a bad example because their initial name wasn't even offensive but their new name definitely was. Well, offensively bad at least.

The Ghost Club, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 00:56 (seven months ago) link

The Halo Etc.

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 00:56 (seven months ago) link

I really like what I've heard of Cindy Lee, their music is a kind of perverse psychedelic take on beach rock from the 60s, dream- and bangle rock from the 80s/90s, and noise.

Act of Tenderness is an album for the ages

Dan S, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 01:23 (seven months ago) link

xp at ll tbf cindy lee is the drag project of a nonbinary person

― budo jeru, Tuesday, September 12, 2023 4:12 PM (four weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

oh ok, then that is ok! i'm sorry -- i haven't paid much attention to any their music bc their naming conventions were so wack

― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, September 12, 2023 4:15 PM (four weeks ago)

I already addressed this and it is not "a problem for me" geez!

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 14:07 (seven months ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 12 October 2023 00:01 (seven months ago) link

spooky black -> corbin

Who u? I don't kno u (noz), Thursday, 12 October 2023 03:31 (seven months ago) link

Missed this poll.

Preoccupations is my bête noire, just because it was SO AVOIDABLE. Viet Cong was an obviously provocative name — when their tape came out I was shocked: “Holy shit, you can do that?” And if they’d given it even a second’s thought they could have come up with some kind of half-assed real reason why they named themselves that (“something something American imperialism something something the struggle”). Instead they were your bog-standard clueless white guys about it: “duuuuh…. We just thought it sounded cool” and got rightly pilloried.

And then they chose the dumbest most boring name this side of Window Lamp.

The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 12 October 2023 03:36 (seven months ago) link

And yeah, Women, I’m pretty sure it’s Matt Flegel (brother of Cindy Lee) who keeps coming up with these.

Fuck, VC were SO GOOD for a while. “Death” (written for Women guitarist Chris Reiner who just up and died .. for literally no reason, not drugs or anything, just .. whatever the adult version of SIDS is …) makes Tonight’s the Night sound like Gilbert O’Sullivan.

The land of dreams and endless remorse (hardcore dilettante), Thursday, 12 October 2023 03:48 (seven months ago) link

“something something American imperialism something something the struggle”). Instead they were your bog-standard clueless white guys about it: “duuuuh…. We just thought it sounded cool”

the latter is the better excuse

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Thursday, 12 October 2023 06:19 (seven months ago) link

Well, the former is more a 'justification'

Mark G, Thursday, 12 October 2023 06:37 (seven months ago) link

If I remember correctly, VC were starting to get protests from the Hmong communities in the Midwest and they decided to change the name because it meant nothing to them.

bbq, Thursday, 12 October 2023 06:38 (seven months ago) link

But I always thought it was cute that Gang of Four publicly defended their band name.

bbq, Thursday, 12 October 2023 06:43 (seven months ago) link

Well, there was four of them, so there was that.

(Plus, there was only ever one Viet Cong)

Mark G, Thursday, 12 October 2023 06:47 (seven months ago) link

when did the band form / name themselves? all I can find is 1976 but mao died in september and the gang were arrested / denounced in october and the name takes on whole new connotations after that - I'd always assumed it was a possibly tongue in cheek "anti-revisionist" response to the rise of deng but it seems too early for that and maybe I'm thinking about it more than they did in any case

Left, Thursday, 12 October 2023 07:37 (seven months ago) link

Can’t tell if my syntax was poor or if Mark G is making a joke, but here’s what I was referring to.

https://pitchfork.com/news/58779-gang-of-four-on-viet-cong-name-controversy-ridiculous-undemocratic-anti-progressive/

bbq, Thursday, 12 October 2023 07:48 (seven months ago) link

oh I thought you meant defending *their* bandname

Left, Thursday, 12 October 2023 07:51 (seven months ago) link

those capitalist roaders at p4k seem to think it's a loaded bandname but I don't recall reading about any Go4 controversy, it's not like their lyrics were about chucking teachers out of upper storey windows. I'm of that age when I first saw that term on the tv news, it was in reference to the fookin' SDP.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 12 October 2023 08:53 (seven months ago) link

I've never heard of any controversy about Go4's name

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Thursday, 12 October 2023 09:24 (seven months ago) link

“something something American imperialism something something the struggle”

i once chatted with a member of the soft pack/muslims where he was on some bullshit like that, complaining about "having" to change the name because no one understood the complex multivalent political/religious/historical commentary they were making maaan, iirc the holocaust was somehow involved even? it was truly moronic and embarrassing

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Thursday, 12 October 2023 13:30 (seven months ago) link

most artists are dumb

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 12 October 2023 13:59 (seven months ago) link

MC Hamas is probably thinking twice right now

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 12 October 2023 14:32 (seven months ago) link

same with Vanilla ISIS

real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Thursday, 12 October 2023 14:41 (seven months ago) link

BBQ, I don't follow but when the SDP party formed in the UK, the originators were called "The Gang Of Four". That's what I was referring to.

Mark G, Thursday, 12 October 2023 15:03 (seven months ago) link

"Gang of (Number)" is also a common name for a group of legislators from different parties collaborating on a bill

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 12 October 2023 15:05 (seven months ago) link

Also, Gang of Four was an explicitly political band

kirsten gilla band (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 12 October 2023 15:59 (seven months ago) link

Mick Lynch spotted at a recent Gang of Four gig, so that all checks out

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 12 October 2023 16:27 (seven months ago) link

Gang Of Four definitely took the name from the Maoist political faction but I can't see why that would casue any offence.

stirmonster, Thursday, 12 October 2023 16:28 (seven months ago) link

some people are really really offended by communism

no gap tree for old men (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 12 October 2023 16:31 (seven months ago) link

Wait till they hear my band Gay Chuevara

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 12 October 2023 16:46 (seven months ago) link

vg+

Mark G, Thursday, 12 October 2023 17:05 (seven months ago) link

xp
And chucking teachers out of windows.

nickn, Thursday, 12 October 2023 18:19 (seven months ago) link

six months pass...

a few more I found...

Eskimo Callboy changed to Electric Callboy in 2022
Spirit Animal changed to Record Heat in 2020
there was another, Florida-based band named Slaves who changed their name to Rain City Drive in 2021

RICH BRIAN (Neanderthal), Thursday, 2 May 2024 17:32 (two weeks ago) link


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