Linkin Park: Defend them. I dare you.

Flying whales=I forgive all past sins.

Josh...you're not WORTHY enough to listen to Killing Joke, you gnome!

Well, their guitars are in tune!

You ain't heard shit until you've heard Pete Baran in full Barnet Ape mode drunkenly deliver the chorus late in the evening in an English pub.

at the time the band was called Zero (i think). he gave me a tape and i thought it was a bad 311 rip off. so i thought the band sucked then, and i can't really defend their sound now

but they're nice. so that's defendable

Whatever kudos Chester Whatshisname garners via his pipes are surely rendered moot by (a) the lyrics, (b) the pose, (c) the rapping, (d) they truly juvenile videos, (e) their crap name, (f) their pious "no swearing" rule, (g) their lame album covers, (h) everything else.

Nope. A good voice is a good voice. I've never criticized bad Mariah songs for bad singing (at least, not at the point when she was still singing instead of rasping like a crackhead). I've also never criticized Kelly Clarkson for her voice despite that fucking wretched song.

I thought that was the point!

But Incubus is way better.

And Incubus don't need dramatic flair, obviously, cause they've got Brandon Boyd!

Limp use turntables when they run out of ideas for a part of a song. That's my theory.

This sentence makes me cramp.

I had a hate-on for Incubus after hearing their new stuff (which was all I had heard of theirs at the time) and hearing them claim as influences such groups as Faith No More and Fishbone, and not hearing jack shit of that reflected in their stuff.

Then I went back to their first two albums. Good God! was I missing out! Check out something like "2012 AD" or something, I swear they are a way better band than you would expect having only heard the radio hits.

A song, a band and a singer for whom the blackest, deepest well of contempt is nowhere near enough. I would say that, though. ;-)

"Rollin'", however, is irredeemable bullshit. There aren't enough words in the English to adequately describe how awful this song is. This is not exaggeration; I wish I could exaggerate about how much I hate this song and pretty much everything about it as I could write something that went beyond "Good Lord, I didn't think it was possible for a piece of music to be such irredeemable bullshit."

You'll have to take Dan on as well, though. ;-)

"Rollin" is genius. Each verse references a different white-rap hit. The first references their own "Nookie" (same rap style), the second references Eminem's hits (that background voice that dares to dis Limp Bizkit), the third's shout-outs hit Kid Rock's "Bawitdaba". Totally left me jonesin for another fix of the Limp Bizkit mix. Gorgeously obnoxious, with Fred evidently being so bad-ass all you haters (who he still gives love to, I do too) can't handle his rap-rock fusion.

I guess in the early '60s you'd all be telling me Surfin' Bird is mere pap and I should be listening to Dave Brubeck or some shit.

If Fred Durst had actually been bad-ass in "Rollin'" instead of a limp-dicked, fake-ass, momma-bought-me-this-hoodie-so-I-could-hang-out-with-the-cool-kids, whiney-voiced poser, I'd have fewer problems with the song.

Your analogy doesn't work for me, Nick, since I love that there Yoko person. :-)

So, um, I'll defend Linkin Park in that they at least don't come off as grunting whiney cave-men like Senor Red Cap.

Yeah, my analogy was a little flawed, maybe something more like this?

Limp Bizkit : rap-rock :: Judas : Jesus

best thing from this camp was the green lantern mix of the fort minor album.
lots of high profile samples made it a lot more interesting than the album proper.

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that's one androgynous dude!

'faint' is a great song

xp: he has the androgynous name of "Bill"!

I think "Numb" and "In The End" are easily their best songs.

But Dan, they are the same song!

but it's a good song!

I was listening to Hybrid Theory today and I realized that the album has a whole new layer of meaning if you pretend every song is about the disintegration of Capitalism and America's current economic woes. Take "In the End," for instance: "I've put my trust in you / I pushed as far as it could go / For all this, there's only one thing you should know. / I tried so hard and got so far / But in the end it doesn't even matter."

Or "Points of Authority:" "Forfeit the game / Stop the talk show / Product of what / You're taught to know. /
Forfeit the game / 'cause tomorrow / When it's all done / You reap what you sow." Their refrain, "You live what you learn," clearly admonishing us to abandon our antiquated banking system while we still can and socialize Citibank. Take the lessons we've learned! Live them!

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'I don't want to scream anymore.'

The collection's 15 tracks mark the band's accelerating drift away from its original, hit-making collision of metal and hip-hop to a sound more amorphous, layered and provocative.

...because we all needed another Stadium Arcadium.

"When I was 20 years old, I would have told you 'I hate the Beatles. There is no way I will listen to that,'" added Bennington, whose personal model then was the roaring creep show punk-rock of the Misfits. "Now, I would tell you that I love the Beatles, and I didn't figure it out until I was 27: 'Oh. This is what everybody … talks about.' It was weird. It was like all of a sudden I like broccoli. Now I love broccoli."

okay dude is an ILXor

fess up, Chester!

I had just reopened this thread to quote that exact paragraph.

Clearly the Beatles are not pizza, the Beatles are broccoli.

I misspoke

okay dude is ilxor

fess up, Chester

SHUT UP WHEN IM TALKIN TO YOUUUU

SHUT UUUUUPPPPPP

I'M ABOUT TO BREAK ;_;

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CRAWWWWWWWWWWLINGGGGGGGGGGGGG INNNNNNNNNNNNNNN MYYYYYYYYYYYYY SKIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNN

"in the end" is a great song tho

O_O ;

I really liked that ballad-y single from the last album.

I'M ABOUT TO BREAK ;_;

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irlol

Haha: http://www.altpress.com/news/entry/linkin_park_allegedly_called_the_cops_on_sublime_with_rome_for_smoking_mari

i listened to a thousand suns last night, it's still really amazing

hope they haven't lost the plot too hard with the new record but the single is unpromising

...because we all needed another Stadium Arcadium.

lol and i was also thinking last night about how much ned and djp might like it

really good singles band

https://www.resetera.com/threads/linkin-park-announces-return-with-emily-armstrong-as-new-co-vocalist-single-the-emptiness-machine-released-album-from-zero-releasing-november-15.973602/page-19

I've never heard of her but those fans seem upset about her being a scientologist and some court case I was unaware of

I want to cheer for them but tbh their last few releases were pretty boring so can't see anything good coming out of this

gotta say the way this band's reputation seems to have completely turned around is really something. I seem to recall most people thinking they were a joke back in the day. and it's not like they've done anything decent sinec Meteora. similar situation as Weezer. I guess the teens won out.

her being a scientologist and some court case I was unaware of

Research the Danny Masterson rape case before responding quite so glibly.

and it's not like they've done anything decent sinec Meteora

wrong!!!!!!!

no comment on the attempted comeback

did not know the dead sara vocalist was a scientologist tho

I think the fact that she’s a scientologist wouldn’t have been such a big deal if she hadn’t also defended masterson and been part of his support team in court.

xps I wasn't meaning to be glib.

Yeah, I think her involvement in the Masterson case is the bigger concern than her being a Scientologist.

i mean they're pretty interwoven concerns

i really liked "weatherman" and the album it was on

This furore has made me finally check out one of their albums (A Thousand Suns)

it's great wtf

it’s SO GREAT

I'm on my 4th listen

man ... and i thought it was goofy that anyone cared *that much* about the return about Oasis.

this band makes Oasis seem like the Beatles.

counterpoint, I'd rather listen to Linkin Park 7 days out of 7 than feckin Oasis

I even checked out their revoked 2017 album and quite liked it. The level of raw emotion in a Very Pop context is disarming and creates considerable intensity. Then there's the sonic attention to detail and suddenly a bunch of ostensibly corny basic songwriting is rendered transcendent (more on ATS tbf, but as I say, I Did Not Hate OML)

Reviled, not revoked lol, stupid phone

Tried several times to engage with their last album but yeah the bland pop songwriting made it seem very generic. I love the droning hum driving early guitar stuff

I really like the new single even tho it's pretty much a carbon copy of their early hits.
But having as a singer a typical hollywood scenester - with an iffy sc1ent0 background - feels jarring for a band made up of scrawny bullied suburban kids (or at least that's the vibe they have always projected). Hard to relate to her screaming along with Mike S. that she "just wanted to be part of something".

What more part of something would you want than an intergalactic battle for eternity with an ancient alien race?

that's what the video for In the End was about I think