Mariah Carey: Why is she back?

Even more revealing was what she said regarding being biracial, and how she can put the number of people she's been sexually intimate with "on less than one hand" (what does that even mean?). Is that revelatory ?She said it's because she has major issues with protecting her body, and it's influenced by what she "saw in her childhood" - it seemed to imply that she was talking about abuse, but when John Norris mentioned pregnancy and STDs she just nodded and said yeah.

Of course, none of this rationalizes or in any way explains why she prancies around as a human sausage in those godawful Heartbreaker and Butterfly vids, but she said that that's just her image and she really is very sexually conservative. (Why this dichotomy then?) She wants the loving, committed husband, three kids and white picket fence, in her own words.

I don't know what the hell is wrong with me today that I'm actually posting some sort of pro-Mariah thread - I would've guessed me finishing a paper on time would be more likely. But I dunno. She's just another human being. Maybe I'm weary of hating on her, and am projecting it onto Xtina...

I miss the video of "Somedays," one of her very, very few (there are two) semi-good songs (both early 90s ballads - I forget the other one, but the video involved the talent show thing in the church or something where she rises like a bursting tulip fromt he stage) - don't you remember ? She walks through the halls of the school in like a flannel shirt, she seemed normal. What a mindfuck, that Mariah

Also, call me Good Charlotte, but I have a hard time with someone who's been stinking rich for well over a decade who's done nothing but complain about how tired she is and how her crappy acting in a crappy movie didn't make her a bigger star.

Beautifully put, man. Beautiful.

God, but I love/d her 1st album.

LOLZ

(Alex, if you don't take advantage of this opening...)

Bullshit....
http://www.zymetrical.com/images/products/beerhelmet.jpg

I saw mariah on some commercial yesterday for a phone or something, I don't know because I had to mute it because she was "singing" and I was starting to convulse like that guy who has a physical reaction to Mary Hart's voice - can I get an Amen?

and pop can't "come back" because by definition it's always popular.

true - but I'm sure a lot of folks bought Nirvana's Nevermind who weren't devout Sub Pop/Amphetamine Reptile/SST/Dischord heads.

and pop can't "come back" because by definition it's always popular.

In this case, I'd suggest "pop" refers to a style and sensibility of music, and not the literal definition of "popular", but whatever.

there's always the glitzy, showbizzy, dancin' around style of pop.
there was in the early 90s.

is "pop" your code for "black"?

Wow.

Fuck you, by the way.

true - but I'm sure a lot of folks bought Nirvana's Nevermind who weren't devout Sub Pop/Amphetamine Reptile/SST/Dischord heads

probably kids into metal or whatever.

also, relax.

You call me a racist and tell me to relax. Go fuck yourself.

He didn't call you a racist, Alex.

(I half-agree with both sides of this argument, btw.)

nah, don't think you're racist.

pc user was merely implying that Alex is a racist.

I wouldn't not surprised.

I would not be surprised*.

To back up to ballads, I love me some Aaliyah (though I'm always a bit worried that she's the "safe" hipster r&b choice) ballads, and love some Rufus and Whitney ballads, but the vast majority of Carey stuff that I've heard just bores me to tears. She seems like the very epitome of melismatics and ornamentation over substance. But I also don't understand what people like about Alicia Keys either, so I might be a bad listener.

i need to hear some aaliyah for sure

(though I'm always a bit worried that she's the "safe" hipster r&b choice)

Why do you worry about this sort of thing? Why not just like what you like instead of worrying how it will go over with your chain-wallet'd Oberlin friends?

I would not be surprised*.

I've been a fairly regular contributor to ILX since about 2001. Calling someone a racist based exclusively on their testimony regarding pop music is so fucking offsides I cannot even begin to put it into words. COME TO THINK OF IT, I DON'T OWN ANY BARABARA STREISAND ALBUMS EITHER -- CLEARLY I'M AN ANTI-SEMITE!

Calling someone a dick or a douchebag or a moron is one thing. Calling them a racist is something a great deal more damning and not something to be taken lightly.

lol oberlin.

i need to hear some aaliyah for sure

Wait, did you just say you've never heard Aaliyah? And this is Surmounter talking? My head hurts.

i know! i mean, only like one song... this is imminent.

how is that even possible.

did you not have a radio growing up.

I am absolutely astounded.

nice to see alex in nyc posting in bolded caps again.

i like "one in a million" but that's more of a slow jam isn't it? overall i find ballads dull.

alex, i don't think you are racist.

is now a good time to point out that I keep misreading the thread title as "Mariah Carey: Why is she black?"

calling people racist (sexist, homphobic, heterosexist, eurocentric, etc etc) is the sport of choice at ILX.

Hahah, BIG HOOS, me too.

"Why do you worry about this sort of thing? Why not just like what you like instead of worrying how it will go over with your chain-wallet'd Oberlin friends?"

Because I recognize that I'm a dilettante when it comes to modern R&B, so I don't want to make broad pronouncements about liking or hating r&b ballads based on what might be an outlier to the genre.

Oh, and because I want to bait ILX poptards like you.

I'm always a bit worried that she's the "safe" hipster r&b choice

I think you're right. I blame Timbo.

is now a good time to point out that I keep misreading the thread title as "Mariah Carey: Why is she black?"

i think everyone misreads it as that.

see upthread, mentioned here and there.

what nails it for me and mimi is her lisp, soooooooo sexy...

...and her harmonies. the low one, the high one, the whispery one, the off key one and the sexy one, all layered up to produce one sickly sweet syrupy gooey mess of a song

just smear it all over you and get your partner to lick it off...

...yum

madonnas tunes cant do any of that...

hahahahaha

this thread sucks

ethan's post is funny though. mariah is pretty great.

I do kind of wonder though if Mariah recent inclination towards basically whispering is because she's destroyed her voice or because she "prefers to sing that way"(like she claims).. as amazing as "Fly Like a Bird" is, Emotions-era Mariah would have DESTROYED it. But anyway, I can't wait for her new album though the list of producers is kind of meh (WHY IS SHE WORKING WITH STARGATE? PEOPLE SHOULD STAY AWAY FROM THEM).

-- The Brainwasher, Friday, December 14, 2007 4:31 PM (Yesterday) Bookmark Link

the thing is, i know exactly what you mean, but even if it did signal some deterrioration of her voice, i would still want it exactly that way (like on Fly Like A Bird for ex). i didn't used to appreciate her breathiness, but i look for it now. but you're right, an Emotions-era rendition would be pretty stellar.

she love everything jay say, jay does

WHY IS SHE WORKING WITH STARGATE? PEOPLE SHOULD STAY AWAY FROM THEM

Stargate are good for acts that aren't particularly melodic to begin with (Beyonce etc.), but people such as Lionel Richie, who are able to write better melodic songs without the aid of Stargate, and without those annoying dance rhythms in the background, should stay away from them.

Lionel Richie wrote "Hello", he wrote "Still", he wrote "Easy", he wrote "Three Times a Lady", he wrote "Truly", he wrote "All Night Long". There is no way that Stargate will get even close to the greatness of those songs!

Good grief.

beyonce sounds very tuneful to me

Mariah certainly doesn't make me a horny.

-- Dingbod Kesterson, Friday, December 14, 2007 10:26 AM (5 days ago) Bookmark Link

beyonce sounds very tuneful to me

...she sounds like a whiny ol whorebag to me

not worthy of mentioning in the same breath as mariah...

Why is ILM so awful lately?

"All Night Long" has some pretty annoying dance rhythms going on in the background.

Lionel Richie will never write a song even a nanoillionth as good as "Baby One More Time."

Why is ILM so awful lately?

Yes, god forbid someone doesn't share your taste.

^^^^ LOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Mariah should have guested on The X-Factor. She would have shown that Same Difference who's boss on the circus front.

It's not anyone in particular's taste, just rather the general clusterfuckedness.

Merry Christmas!

=P

beyonce sounds very tuneful to me
...she sounds like a whiny ol whorebag to me

not worthy of mentioning in the same breath as mariah...

-- pollywog, Thursday, 20 December 2007 04:54 (8 hours ago) Link

even if she sounds like a whiny whorebag to you, her melodies can still be very strong, contrary to what Geir proposed. you may not like how she sings them but every single by Beyonce has had a pretty catchy melody, in my humble opinion.