Nobody makes classic albums anymore. Well, apart from Kasabian

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Or so says their guitarist...

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
It's called Empire, which is our word for something that's fucking great 6
"Yeah, we will go and record with an African string section" 6
All this new technology and downloading, it's all a bit crazy. 5
"What you on about, dickhead? What's your band called?" 4
Noel Gallagher came down to the studio and even he was surprised by what a monstrous leap we'd made 4
It's almost as if bands don't care about making that timeless classic 3
I can't imagine that Alex Kapranos gives a shit about his band in the way I give a shit about my band 3
A classic album that'll stand up beside the Stones, The Who, Oasis - anyone 3
I like my classic albums 2
"We will change time signatures in the middle of songs" 2
You're certainly not going to get that from a band like Franz Ferdinand 2
Anyway, I still like vinyl 2
Not just making records, but making fucking great records 1
Forget the singles, forget the big tunes, you need to get your head inside the whole record 1
an album that would speak for a whole generation 0
I really miss that, the idea that a band will take risks and have the balls 0
Not wishing to sound like a wanky artist, but I think that's pretty sad 0
That's because this time we really wanted to make a great British album 0
Maybe it's just me, but I've never met a cool Franz Ferdinand fan 0
I'm not going to hide tha fact that I think it's absolutely fucking amazing 0
"Try and top this". We're ready for it. We'll just have to wait and see if they are. 0


corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 09:18 (one month ago) link

apologies for forgetting the "other" option we'll just have to choose

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 09:18 (one month ago) link

lol ok I think you do need to mention this is from 2006 and Kasabian dude isn't earnestly complaining about ipods and trying to get a Kasabian/Franz Ferdinand beef started in 2024

lots of nuggets nonethless!

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 09:37 (one month ago) link

hehe fair

corrs unplugged, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 09:49 (one month ago) link

I've been searching for ages to find a video of this guy hopping about in his pyjamas that one time on Later With Jools Holland, what an ass.

My God's got no nose... (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 09:51 (one month ago) link

I think his record company might have paid the BBC to destroy any footage.

My God's got no nose... (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 09:53 (one month ago) link

If someone approaches you in a pub to say your band is shite agreeing is 100% the right way to act in that situation. Making a deal out of it suggests you secretly do know you are shite.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 09:55 (one month ago) link

I really miss that, the idea that a band will take risks and have the balls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcLRq3oBtnU

nashwan, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 10:01 (one month ago) link

There was a photo of this band where this guy was wearing a clip on fox tail on his arse. That did not inspire me to inquire further about this band but I still remember it years later.

President of the Canadian Council of Bassoonists (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 10:07 (one month ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1dFaqoLvniA

is this what you're thinking of with "hopping around in his pyjamas"? it's the guitarist's solo project

ufo, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 10:15 (one month ago) link

That later performance is something else. It's like he saw the likes of Christine & The Queens who do actual dance routines on a big open floor on Later and he thought "I'll have a go at that". I imagine he doesn't have people close to him who'll try and stop him for his own good

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 10:23 (one month ago) link

No, he did two songs - maybe three - and the first one he was wearing some kind of stripy pyjama outfit. I've never seen it since.

My God's got no nose... (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 10:28 (one month ago) link

... it was much worse than that clip, believe it or not.

My God's got no nose... (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 10:29 (one month ago) link

LOL "There's a discrepancy in the bill! There's a discrepancy in the bill!"

My God's got no nose... (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 10:32 (one month ago) link

https://acupofbritishearlgrey.tumblr.com/post/190664034012/video-nobody-else-later-with-jools-holland

i found proof of its existence but i can't find the video anywhere

ufo, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 10:34 (one month ago) link

The bozo in the striped pyjamas.

Dan Worsley, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 10:53 (one month ago) link

the "There's nothing better than picking up a second-hand LP, thinking that maybe 40 years ago it was being played at some mad psychedelic party somewhere" is kind of touching, imo. I think about stuff like that when I listen to old second-hand records. Though Kasabian haven't really managed to incorporate this yearning, wistful quality into their own music, from what I've heard of it.

soref, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 12:35 (one month ago) link

maybe in the future someone will pick up a second-hand CD copy of Empire by Kasabian and think about how 40 years earlier it might have been playing at a mad psychedelic party in 2006

soref, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 12:38 (one month ago) link

well one would have to be mad

ufo, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 12:40 (one month ago) link

Tom D.: so did a little research and this is what I got.

The clip you’re searching for is not Kasabian it’s The SLP. He performed three tracks on Jools Holland Season 54 Episode 3:

1. Favourites (with Little Simz)
2. (Trance)
3. Nobody Else

“Nobody Else” is the infamous pajamas performance but was only on the extended version of the show. Which might explain why it’s so hard to find. The other two are easy to find online.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 13:32 (one month ago) link

I think I said it at the time, it was like he'd never even heard of Jimmy Pursey's excursion into interpretive dance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YR-W-uGcMRA

My God's got no nose... (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 13:36 (one month ago) link

Oh wait I found it.

Here it is on Kasabian’s IG account:

https://www.instagram.com/tv/B4-KUUBA5If/?igsh=MWkyMThzYTY3cHJ3Nw==

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 13:40 (one month ago) link

He did this again when Velociraptor! was released in 2011.

"It's been 15 or 16 years since the last truly classic album, but I think we've done it"
"We're not your average pop band – we're avant garde yet we've sold nearly a million records on each album in England."

Ofc, this implies that Empire was, in fact, not a truly classic album, despite his initial claims to the contrary

you can see me from westbury white horse, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 13:41 (one month ago) link

this is a tremendous find, thank you for posting

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 13:41 (one month ago) link

And in this corner...

In the October 2006 issue of Giant magazine, Flowers was quoted as saying that Sam's Town would be "one of the best albums in the past twenty years",[10] and in Entertainment Weekly he remarked that it would be "the album that keeps rock & roll afloat."

you can see me from westbury white horse, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 13:44 (one month ago) link

incredible find moka. i don't think that's their official ig though, just a fan account

kasabian: classic or truly classic?

ufo, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 13:46 (one month ago) link

It's actually not as bad as I'd remembered! I mean this antics, not the song which is utter shite.

My God's got no nose... (Tom D.), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:28 (one month ago) link

lol he's barefoot?

ufo, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:30 (one month ago) link

did he go for pyjamas because the lyrics are "some days i wake up..."

ufo, Wednesday, 17 April 2024 14:30 (one month ago) link

I think you might have mixed both the Pajamas outfit with the “favourites” performance which has more of a cringe inducing, try-hard performative dance going on. While Little Simz was trying to save the song he kept distracting me with whatever that snakey dance was.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:02 (one month ago) link

The trance performance is also… not good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15UXLBdtDV4

All three performances put together give a glimpse into his genius.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:09 (one month ago) link

I remember when we were supposed to think guys like this were cool because rock'n'roll!

Never fight uphill 'o me, boys! (President Keyes), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:50 (one month ago) link

a lot of very strong options in this poll, kudos

I painted my teeth (sleeve), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 15:55 (one month ago) link

I’d say he at least had the vision to have Little Simz as a guest before she blew up.

✖✖✖ (Moka), Wednesday, 17 April 2024 16:11 (one month ago) link

this is why I love ilxor, thanks for this poll

fpsa, Thursday, 18 April 2024 02:08 (one month ago) link

omg both how did this guy make it? and of course this guy made it.

I would have guessed that Trance performance came from the mind of Tim Heidecker without any context

H.P, Thursday, 18 April 2024 05:20 (one month ago) link

Really stuck between the two franz ferdinand options. Both so good, and so true

H.P, Thursday, 18 April 2024 05:21 (one month ago) link

i voted for "It's called Empire, which is our word for something that's fucking great" but "We will change time signatures in the middle of songs" is particularly funny coming from them

ufo, Thursday, 18 April 2024 05:41 (one month ago) link

So many stand out options! I really enjoy "Not just making records, but making fucking great records"

H.P, Thursday, 18 April 2024 05:54 (one month ago) link

but "We will change time signatures in the middle of songs" is particularly funny coming from them

there's a certain pathos to the fact that, having fenced themselves into a universe where the only acceptable kind of music is aping the lad rock canon, dude is still aware that bands who shaped that canon took actual creative risks and so feels the need to reach for that as well - except the actual music can't sound like it, so it's a lot of grasping about "avante garde" and "African string sections" (lol) in interviews while the records continue to sound just like the previous one.

(this analysis probably not accurate to this solo project with Little Simz tbf, did not click)

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 18 April 2024 09:31 (one month ago) link

hired a boer string quartet

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 18 April 2024 11:10 (one month ago) link

I don’t know this band (so no offense) but these options are hilarious

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 18 April 2024 11:20 (one month ago) link

I thought I could make a choice now but may need to sleep on these and come back

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 18 April 2024 11:22 (one month ago) link

i would summarise their music as third-rate primal scream rips

ufo, Thursday, 18 April 2024 11:30 (one month ago) link

their whole sound seems to step specifically from "Pills". Wasn't long before they hired Dan the Automator.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 18 April 2024 11:38 (one month ago) link

Chuckled when I went to rym and saw that Empire is rated the lowest by a decent margin among their first few albums

Forget Alex Kapranos - I can't imagine many musicians in history give a shit about their band the way this guy does. Wonder how he feels today

Vinnie, Thursday, 18 April 2024 11:40 (one month ago) link

"Eh, it's a living"

Vinnie, Thursday, 18 April 2024 11:41 (one month ago) link

xp it's because even if you're partial to kasabian few have a use for it after track 2. they frontloaded the (relatively few) hits.

you can see me from westbury white horse, Thursday, 18 April 2024 11:44 (one month ago) link

“If you walked up to [Alex Kapranos] in the boozer and told him, ‘I think Franz Ferdinand are shit,’ I reckon he’d probably agree.”

I Love Potatoes (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, 18 April 2024 11:53 (one month ago) link

i will give them credit for at least having the decency to focus on ripping off xtrmntr, there's a lot worse things they could have done in the 'mix between stone roses and primal scream with the swagger of oasis' tradition

ufo, Thursday, 18 April 2024 12:01 (one month ago) link

The contrast between what doofuses like this promise and what the music actually sounds like, is the platonic ideal of the concept of bathos. (Insert Fast Show Indie Club sketch here).

President of the Canadian Council of Bassoonists (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 18 April 2024 12:16 (one month ago) link

Wonder how much he viewed Franz as the Blur to their Oasis

PaulTMA, Thursday, 18 April 2024 12:17 (one month ago) link

lol that is 100% what he was trying to conjure up and then he does the "it's just the press hyping this up" bullshit at the end. mate, you wish the press would.

Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 18 April 2024 12:21 (one month ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 00:01 (two weeks ago) link

"The Stones, The Who, Oasis..."

..ftw. Also, who would have been next on that list?

Mark G, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 06:43 (two weeks ago) link

Beato thinks they'll still be discussing them all in 2100

PaulTMA, Tuesday, 30 April 2024 18:50 (two weeks ago) link

i went for "All this new technology and downloading, it's all a bit crazy" because it just hits this mid-00s dad sweet spot

he/him hoo-hah (map), Tuesday, 30 April 2024 19:06 (two weeks ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 1 May 2024 00:01 (two weeks ago) link


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