Erase Errata: did their fans not listen to girl punk rock in '93 or did they just forget?

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Erase Errata live are like a really boring, bad imitation skinned teen.

why so popular?

― ddd, Thursday, 5 December 2002 05:56 (twenty-two years ago)

they arnt very popular.

― chaki (chaki), Thursday, 5 December 2002 06:04 (twenty-two years ago)

chaki that's completely irrelevant!

they're popular because their fans don't know their music history and are buying this third-rate manufactured "punk" because the media buried the real stuff.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 5 December 2002 06:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Am I thinking of a different Erase Errata, or something? When I saw them they sounded 100% like agitating post-punk, right down to the trumpet: all Pop Group and not at all "girl punk '93." (Were there bands that sounded like that in the early 90s that I somehow never noticed?)

― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 5 December 2002 07:27 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think they sound like the Pop Group either. They sound like James Chance and the Contortions.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Thursday, 5 December 2002 07:33 (twenty-two years ago)

i don't know what they sound like, but they're really fucking good live. maybe i'm ignant.

― Dave M. (rotten03), Thursday, 5 December 2002 07:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Right, that's probably closer, Jody. I just needed to make sure I was thinking of the right post-punky no-wavey Erase Errata and not being completely confused. 1993 would have never crossed my mind in relation to them.

― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 5 December 2002 07:47 (twenty-two years ago)

i like em just fine.

they know their shit and were into their shit before "the hype" clued everyone into disco punk and funk punk and all that.

such blister... it makes me think you guys believe that influence automatically eliminates a band's worth.

you don't think that, do you?
m.

― msp, Thursday, 5 December 2002 07:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Erase Errata sound like Dead Kennedies to me.
So yes, their fans did not listen to girl punk in the early nineties.
Or maybe they did, it doesn't matter.

― meirion john lewis (mei), Thursday, 5 December 2002 13:36 (twenty-two years ago)

My question is, how is Erase Errata "manufactured" (as Sterling Clover claims)?

― Nick A. (Nick A.), Thursday, 5 December 2002 14:13 (twenty-two years ago)

they sound just like green day and blink 182 and the au pairs! all that pop crap.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 5 December 2002 14:21 (twenty-two years ago)

So, you're one of those fake names that people use when they want to say stupid things to try and piss people off, right? Very clever.

― Nick A. (Nick A.), Thursday, 5 December 2002 14:33 (twenty-two years ago)

Sterling, I'd ask you to lend me your ears so I, too, could draw the sonic line that connects the Au Pairs & Slits (my addition) w/ Green Day & Blink as you see / hear it, but I like that what I hear has more to do w/ that manufactured post-punk crap (cf. Jody & Nabisco) than any three-chord rhumba outside of the basic signifiers (the subculture, the instruments, etc), so keep your mudflaps to yourself, please. For you to assert that they ARE "pop" sounds disingenuous, unless you wanna spend some time tossing ill-fitting pop hats on like-minded 3rd generation punk beat biters like those Chicago No-Wave groups or Lightning Bolt or that stuff Jess wrote about a while back or, hey, the madness centering around Troubleman Unlimited.

If Erase Errata ARE popular, it's probably because of Sonic Youth tooting their horn. I'm all for that, by the way, because I think they're great, even if some crank could paint their stuff as a blatant hollow homage to past glories. What they're doing sounds just fine to me.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 5 December 2002 14:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Exactly. And even if you could explain how Erase Errata sounds like "manufactured" bands like Green Day et al., it still wouldn't make them a manufactured band.

― Nick A. (Nick A.), Thursday, 5 December 2002 14:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Great great great live band. Hint 1: listen to what the guitarist is doing--a friend of mine compared her to Zoot Horn Rollo (and I used to see her front & center at every God Is My Co-Pilot show, so there's a little of that in there too). Hint 2: listen to the rhythm section--they've got that Rough Trade '80 slightly (but consistently and deliberately) disjointed bump. Hint 3: the lyrics are a lot weirder/wholly considered than you'd guess (check out "Short Stint Harvesting").

― Douglas, Thursday, 5 December 2002 15:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Am I the only one who got Sterling's joke?? Maybe there wasn't one! Help!

I mean, I assumed that Sterling saw the thread title/question and realised it was one of the most preposterous ever even by ILM standards (imagine "Interpol: did their fans not listen to Joy Division in '78 or did they just forget?") and so slotted in the standard anti-fake-punk rhetoric you get on all the Blink threads for a semi-joke. Right?

NB I have never seen/heard Erase Errata or Skinned Teen.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 5 December 2002 15:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Tom, that's what one wants to assume -- but if you've heard Erase Errata the question's almost too weird for that. It's like saying "Interpol: did their fans not listen to Alice in Chains?"

― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 5 December 2002 15:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Thank you, Nabisco, for pulling my chips out of the dip.

― David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 5 December 2002 15:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Now that's spicy!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 5 December 2002 15:42 (twenty-two years ago)

I've heard several times they're amazing live. I'm seeing them Saturday; I'll report back.

― Sean (Sean), Thursday, 5 December 2002 15:59 (twenty-two years ago)

I must check out Erase Errata, because I really had forgotten about Skinned Teen.

― Curt (cgould), Thursday, 5 December 2002 16:02 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah tom, that was pretty much the joke.

but in all seriousness I saw them opening for june of 44 quite a while back with Pretentious Friend and he was all over them talking about how they were so totally '77 & I heard a lot more that was distinctly post riot there, especially in the vocals. The do seriously rock live though, with a Swell Maps sort of mutating groove shamble. Very fun, but too claustrophobic for my taste.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 5 December 2002 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

i saw them long ago (2 years). i hadn't hear of them at all so my ears were completely fresh. i didn't think of 'no wave' of 'disco punk' at all. it wasn't untill now that i keep seeing them refered to as part of this trend.

... it makes me think you guys believe that influence automatically eliminates a band's worth.

i don't think they bring more to the sound of classic riot grrl bands, except that they play slower and more in control (a bad thing!). i expect by now, with their success and experience, they are much crazier. i just don't see what they offer that KRS or Lookout couldn't offer 10 years ago.

...that's why this thread exists!

ps. i think my "the fine line between GSYBE and PHISH" thread was much more preposterous

― ddd, Thursday, 5 December 2002 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)

David the blindingly obvious thing they offer (even if you're completely right) is that they are not happening 10 years ago when anyone the age you were 10 years ago wouldn't have been hearing them.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 5 December 2002 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

the musicianship (esp. guitar/drums) are much more sophisticated ("artier"?) than anything that the riot grrl scene championed. lots of absurd time signatures and an inventive approach to guitar playing.

superficially, i can see how some people would think that any female band that utilizes distortion and sports a "punk" attitude could be reminiscent of another... not that that's a fair judgement.

the EE vocals i've never got used to (nor enjoyed)... it could be because i've never heard the record though.

― gygax!, Thursday, 5 December 2002 17:41 (twenty-two years ago)

They were awesome live, but their recorded material doesn't do anything for me.

― polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 5 December 2002 17:43 (twenty-two years ago)

six months pass...

I just got the Dancing Machine remix EP and liked a few tracks a lot last night. We'll see how this goes over this morning.

BTW, the remixers are:

Kid 606
Matmos
Adult.
Kevin Blechdom

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Thursday, 12 June 2003 11:32 (twenty-two years ago)

gygax said "the musicianship (esp. guitar/drums) are much more sophisticated ("artier"?) than anything that the riot grrl scene championed. lots of absurd time signatures and an inventive approach to guitar playing."

The voice of sanity. Erase Errata are superb. Nearest comparison is the Slits but much easier on the ear (its all relative)

― Marinaorgan (Marina Organ), Thursday, 12 June 2003 14:02 (twenty-two years ago)

they also have a horn!!! a horrrn!!!

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Thursday, 12 June 2003 14:04 (twenty-two years ago)

I like Erase Errata, but I saw the singer's solo project (I want to say Pleasure Island, Treasure Island, but those aren't right) thing a month or so ago, and it was dreadful. I guess it showed she does have a great voice, but everything was out of tune and sounded like shit.

― NA. (Nick A.), Thursday, 12 June 2003 14:22 (twenty-two years ago)

the adult. remix is very good

― jess (dubplatestyle), Thursday, 12 June 2003 15:15 (twenty-two years ago)

The Kid 606 one is good too and the Matmos mix is amusing, but barely qualifies as a remix.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Thursday, 12 June 2003 15:18 (twenty-two years ago)

(Dear Jess: duh!)

(Not that I've heard it or anything.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 12 June 2003 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)

(By the way, every day I grow more in favor of Tom's "blindingly obvious" argument, above. Band from ten years ago might have gotten somewhere first, but they can't play live, can't make jokes about current events, never get any good magazine profiles, have bad haircuts, and half the time their records take ages to find.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 12 June 2003 15:34 (twenty-two years ago)

(Band from twenty to thirty years ago are worse: you can find the records, but they cost $25, and don't even dream of getting a t-shirt out of them.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 12 June 2003 15:36 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think anyone would have trouble finding shirts/records of the KRS girl bands of ages past.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Thursday, 12 June 2003 15:37 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, Jon, I'm slightly kidding when I say all that stuff, but I do think your "anyone" fails to include, say, sixteen year olds in small midwestern towns. Yeah, yeah, the internet changed everything, sure, but the chances of most kids getting around to hearing and liking Errase Errata are slim enough -- it's not like they're going to put Other Animals on pause and think "first I must marshal all of my resources to find out whether there was ever a band called Skinned Teen doing something similar when I was 10 years old."

― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 12 June 2003 15:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Which isn't meant as an excuse for any band shamelessly rehashing another -- I just think maybe the criticism should focus on whether it's done well or not, rather than whether there are already similar records floating around on the margins.

― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 12 June 2003 15:50 (twenty-two years ago)

(Also the KRS girl bands of yore aren't gonna come through your town to get you all excited -- but if you like the Bangs, their little sisters might.)

― nabisco (nabisco), Thursday, 12 June 2003 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm going to see Erase Errata on Saturday. Anyone else going?

― mei (mei), Thursday, 12 June 2003 15:52 (twenty-two years ago)

My bottom line - it's a fine reason to dislike something yourself but you shouldn't transfer that reason to anyone else.

― Tico Tico (Tico Tico), Thursday, 12 June 2003 15:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Erase Erratta are the worst interview I have ever done. I've only done like five interviews, but still. Fuck them.

The album is an obnoxious mess, skronk as and end instead of a means. The Adult. remix is hot, though.

― Tom Breihan (Tom Breihan), Thursday, 12 June 2003 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)

The album is an obnoxious mess

Dude, if you really think that it is THAT bad, maybe you're poking around the wrong kind of music.

― Jon Williams (ex machina), Thursday, 12 June 2003 16:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Right now I have this guitar part going through my head and I can't decide if it is from an Erase Errata song or a Yummy Fur song (this after the similarities between the two bands were suggested elsewhere). Having never heard Skinned Teen myself,I think David was right in his comparison. Yes, Erase Errata does the post-punk thing, but it is undoubtedly informed by the KRS/Slampt/Guided Missile camp of early to mid 90's indie rock.

― Miranda (Miranda), Thursday, 12 June 2003 16:19 (twenty-two years ago)

i've decided that i prefer longer repeating songs with choruses to the noiseband short nonrepeating songs thing.

maybe i'm just lazy.

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 12 June 2003 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Tom, why did you bother to interview Erase Errata if you didn't like their album? Or do you have no pride whatsoever in your own craft. The fact they were a "bad" interview is almost certainly more a reflection on your own (lack of ) skill as a journalist then on them. I've interviewed them myself, and found them articulate, witty and fun to talk to. You clearly didn't... maybe it was because they fast realised you were a hack who didn't like their music. Not all musicians appreciate being talked to by people who couldn't give a crap about them.

Incidentally, I've seen both Skinned Teen and Erase Errata, on several occasions. Someone will have to explain the link to me because I really don't fucking see it. And even if there was a link: why should someone have to verse themselves in fucking "music history" before they are allowed to like or dislike something. You stupid twat, Sterling.

― Jerry (Jerry), Friday, 13 June 2003 10:35 (twenty-two years ago)

I love Erase Errata and I've never heard Skinned teeth _or_ The Pop Group.

I do know that Nabisco's right, they sound nothing like the grrl bands.

They just sound great.

― mei (mei), Friday, 13 June 2003 11:01 (twenty-two years ago)

How does one tell "third-rate manufactured punk" from the first-rate stuff?

― dave q, Friday, 13 June 2003 11:13 (twenty-two years ago)

they make thrice as much money as the first-rate ones (but because they are manufactured, their assembly probably is more expensive)

― willem (willem), Friday, 13 June 2003 11:31 (twenty-two years ago)

Jerry, no offense, but is your blatant hypocrisy a pose or an accident?

― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Friday, 13 June 2003 11:36 (twenty-two years ago)

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yes, you're correct... this would be the last show in SF.

― gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

do you know what time they're going on? I have a session tomorrow night but want to go.

― anthony kyle monday (akmonday), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 22:14 (twenty-one years ago)

(yeah i guess it is most correct to call her last SF show her last show since i don't think many EE fans will see them in england or at coachella)

― dean! (deangulberry), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 22:17 (twenty-one years ago)

always with the hate, dean.

xo!

― Ian Johnson (orion), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

I would go actually but I'm busy again and I don't like the new record.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 22:18 (twenty-one years ago)

(f u ian)

i was being serious. england sux. coachella sux.

― dean! (deangulberry), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 22:25 (twenty-one years ago)

england sux

*heats up a particular brand of taco for Dean to enjoy*

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 22:26 (twenty-one years ago)

face it. they don't deserve boredoms / lightning bolt / black dice. they don't. we don't. no one does.

― dean! (deangulberry), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 22:38 (twenty-one years ago)

They? We?

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 22:45 (twenty-one years ago)

they = non-americans, in this case, the british
we = americans

― dean! (deangulberry), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 22:53 (twenty-one years ago)

i think jon&gygax&dean deserve boredoms/lightning bolt/black dice.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 22:54 (twenty-one years ago)

ian, i think you deserve angel wings of gossamer (!!!)

― dean! (deangulberry), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 23:10 (twenty-one years ago)

aw, honey.

― Ian Johnson (orion), Wednesday, 24 March 2004 23:21 (twenty-one years ago)

THE ONLY KEWL COUNTRIES ARE USA+JAPAN AND THE US IS ONLY KEWL IN PLACES THAT ARE KEWL.

― LITTLE LAMB [Jon Williams] (ex machina), Thursday, 25 March 2004 00:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Bollocks!

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Thursday, 25 March 2004 00:14 (twenty-one years ago)

d00d j0n d00d y0u @r3 s0 r!+3

― dean! (deangulberry), Thursday, 25 March 2004 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

i've seen boredoms 8x [not counting v00redoms (1x) nor eYe(2x)/rovo(2x)/ooioo(1x... soon to be 2x)/seiichi yamamamoto band(2x)], lightning bolt 5x [I AM IN THE POWER OF SALAD DVD], and black dice 1x... i don't mind the brits getting my sloppy seconds.

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 25 March 2004 00:52 (twenty-one years ago)

but i am old. ian/jon/dean are the youth of america.

http://www.ssmt-reviews.com/images/wipers/youth.jpg

― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 25 March 2004 00:53 (twenty-one years ago)

http://www.hergardenweb.com/cards/thanks.jpg

― dean! (deangulberry), Thursday, 25 March 2004 00:56 (twenty-one years ago)

I hate you GYGAX!

― LITTLE LAMB [Jon Williams] (ex machina), Thursday, 25 March 2004 00:59 (twenty-one years ago)

lysoll wayne(that's what i thought his name was when mark robinson introduced his set)is the worst, be sure to miss him.

― keith m (keithmcl), Thursday, 25 March 2004 01:44 (twenty-one years ago)

Count me as a great big EE fan who will be seeing them at Coachella.

― Douglas (Douglas), Thursday, 25 March 2004 02:06 (twenty-one years ago)

this band remind me more of the scissor girls and shoes this high than bikini kill and heavens to betsy.

― The Lady Ms Lurex (lucylurex), Saturday, 27 March 2004 03:23 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...

I put on Beefheart's Doc at the Radar Station right after At Crystal Palace today and something about the percussion and guitar riffage remind me so much of each other.

Erase Errata = DNA + Beefheart + RIOT GRRL MUSIC???

― HAMBURGER NEURON GROUP (ex machina), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 12:26 (twenty-one years ago)

The song was "Hot Head"

― HAMBURGER NEURON GROUP (ex machina), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 12:36 (twenty-one years ago)

She can burn you up in bed just like she said
Cause she's a hot head, hot head, hot head

She can throw a party, sho', she can start a pile a' dough
She's a hot head

She puts her head into the fire, makes your red-hot perspire
She's a hot head

She was burned before she was born, burnin' up a storm
She's a hot head

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 12:45 (twenty-one years ago)

Do you hear it?

― HAMBURGER NEURON GROUP (ex machina), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 12:48 (twenty-one years ago)

the beefheart comparison to erase errata is not a new one

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

meaning, yes, i have heard and thought this along with others

― cutty (mcutt), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 12:52 (twenty-one years ago)

I described them in a message to a mate on the Beefheart list recently as "an early incarnation of The Slits, attempting to play Beefheart - how can you resist?"

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I really liked the remix record because I'm a sucker for remixes

― HAMBURGER NEURON GROUP (ex machina), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 12:58 (twenty-one years ago)

Hmm, the remixes suck I think.
Also, did a yone else think the sainger was terrible at her second drum kit, last tour?

― mei (mei), Tuesday, 8 June 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

erase errata = scissor girls 2004

― ???, Wednesday, 9 June 2004 04:26 (twenty-one years ago)

yeah, i don't like that erase errata band very much.

― Ian c=====8 (orion), Wednesday, 9 June 2004 05:56 (twenty-one years ago)

one month passes...

Erase Errata have a new MALE lead singer who does not play an instrument but hangs on his microphone and shouts like Mark E. Smith. His name is Archie. They are now an amazing Fall tribute band. They have become the best band in the USA.

― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 17 July 2004 15:04 (twenty-one years ago)

That's too bad. Half the fun of the band was Jenny's restless strolling about the stage and distracted/ADD inter-song banter. I almost caught them last night...was that a synth line I heard from outside?

― mikef, Saturday, 17 July 2004 16:26 (twenty-one years ago)

not from them. they're just a three piece (sarah is gone) with archie singing (with jenny most of the time). they pretty much sound the same but have a slightly different attitude and feel with a dude on stage.

I'm not sure who else played that room last night aside from 606; the coachwhips played outside.

― kyle (akmonday), Saturday, 17 July 2004 16:29 (twenty-one years ago)

Word is that they have a MALE lead singer now who sounds like Mark E. Smith.

1,000 Le Tigre fans just lost all interest in No Wave!

― I CAN LEAD YOU THROUGH THE ZONE (ex machina), Monday, 19 July 2004 18:35 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm sorry, but your comment is two days late. Next time use priority mail!

― Echo Peckles (Michael F Gill), Monday, 19 July 2004 21:55 (twenty-one years ago)

i hear they have a male singer who sounds like that guy from the Fall!

― noclue (akmonday), Monday, 19 July 2004 22:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I HERE THERE IS TEH GUY IN TEH BANDE NOW WHO IS LIEK TEH MALKMUSE

― dean? (deangulberry), Monday, 19 July 2004 22:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard they sold all their toyo records and bought BMWs.

― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 19 July 2004 22:30 (twenty-one years ago)

six months pass...

I heard them play a set last night that out of the fucking blue ended in six Monks covers (Monk Time, We Do Wie Du, Drunken Maria, Shut Up, Cuckoo, Complication). A Splendid Time Was Guaranteed For All. And they're a trio again, this time with Jenny and Archie out and Sara back in. All for the best, Sara is a damn scream on guitar, plus she's doing the vocals (and trumpet). Add in the fact Bianca does double duty now in a fascinating fashion as second drummer for Burmese (not "back-up" drummer, she and the other fellow play EXACTLY the same thing in stunning militaristic style - show last week was jaw-dropping) and we have three busy ladies back on the map with scorching intensity.

― Dr. Annabel Lies (Michael Kelly), Monday, 24 January 2005 05:56 (twenty years ago)

That all sounds pretty nuts!

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 24 January 2005 06:06 (twenty years ago)

Man, why can't they just keep the same lineup? Bring Jenny back and leave Archie far away.

― Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Monday, 24 January 2005 07:07 (twenty years ago)

I should add that the factor of surrealism was increased as the show advertised a formal dance dress code, with a special discount offered if participants arrived in D&D regalia -- yeah, as in Dungeons and Dragons. Nothing like shouting along to Erase Errata blowing out eardrums with "Shut Up" as some kid with home-made twenty-sided die headgear writhes along behind you. My night out, big fun!

― Dr. Annabel Lies (Michael Kelly), Monday, 24 January 2005 10:12 (twenty years ago)

four years pass...

Dug out their first couple of albums - I loved their debut in 2001 but for some reason was disappointed with the follow-up. But they both sound so great to me now! Tracked down a ton of non-lp stuff in my own stacks as well as on the internets and really love their whole vibe.

― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 24 October 2009 01:44 (fifteen years ago)

Nightlife is way better than the 2nd album - try that one.

― Colonel Poo, Saturday, 24 October 2009 01:55 (fifteen years ago)

2002 OP didn't get that Erase Errata are at least an order of magnitude more talented as instrumentalists than their '93 predecessors. I don't care for some of the Beefheart moments, but I love when they dig into a Gang of Four groove.

― on the installment plan (Derelict), Saturday, 24 October 2009 02:11 (fifteen years ago)

Yes but it's when they marry Beefheart and Gang Of Four - oh my...

I heard "Nightlife" when it came out, no recollection, I will review again.

I forgot to mention how much I love another band of this ilk, Sick Bees. They also had a pair of knock-me-down albums and then a third that went completely off the rails.

― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 24 October 2009 02:57 (fifteen years ago)

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