There are 3 criteria here:
A: The lyric(s) in question don't make sense in some crucial way. They just don't flow or have a reasonable meaning in context. B: There should be a convincing replacement for the lyric(s) that makes a lot more sense than the published version. C: There should be a compelling reason why the lyrics were changed.
I have two songs:
AC/DC: You Shook Me1a. Sensicality: "You shook me all night long" doesn't make much literal or metaphorical sense. What's she doing, domestic abuse?1b. Replacement: "fucked", because "you fucked me all night long" makes a ton of sense.1c. Reason: You can't say "fucked" on the radio.
Spirit: I've Got a Line on You2a. Sensicality: The lyrics sounds like the singer has some kind of secret supply on "you"s. It doesn't make any sense.2b. Replacement: "I've got my eye on you, babe." Much more plausible.2c. Reason: "I've got my eye on you babe" in the song sounds a bit creepy. They wanted to lessen the creep factor.
― Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Sunday, 20 October 2024 06:12 (two months ago) link
I'm thinking that AC/DC probably sang it as "you fucked me" live and I hadn't heard about it.
― Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Sunday, 20 October 2024 06:14 (two months ago) link
“Shook” is a long time synonym for getting fucked. It goes back to early blues recordings at least, and was probably in AAVE well before that.
― Booger Swamp Road (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 20 October 2024 16:05 (two months ago) link
Euphemism, not synonym.
― Booger Swamp Road (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 20 October 2024 16:06 (two months ago) link
Bon scott, blues scholar.
― Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Sunday, 20 October 2024 19:26 (two months ago) link
drinkin' wine, spo-dee-o-dee
― Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 20 October 2024 20:15 (two months ago) link
yeah my thread a couple days ago about “loving” died a quick death but this is what I was getting at
― epistantophus, Sunday, 20 October 2024 22:47 (two months ago) link
ha -- i liked that thread, sad to see it has faded so quickly. should've posted something
― budo jeru, Sunday, 20 October 2024 23:03 (two months ago) link
Oh, yeah, I'll tell you somethingI think you'll understandWhen I say that somethingI want to...
― John Backflip (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 21 October 2024 07:50 (two months ago) link
Billy Ocean's "Carribean Queen" always confused me as a kid because the title places the emphasis on the wrong syllable (americans generally say it "car-RIB-be-an" not "carr-i-BE-an"). It all made sense when i learned that he changed the title because "European Queen" wasn't working on American radio.
― enochroot, Monday, 21 October 2024 11:34 (two months ago) link
Also he's not American.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Monday, 21 October 2024 11:43 (two months ago) link
As a 12-year-old, I'm pretty sure this didn't occur to me.(also, this is more for the Songs where the singer/protagonist comes off as a serious dick without meaning to thread, but that "Hey! You! Get into my car!" song might have benefitted from some changed lyrics)
― enochroot, Monday, 21 October 2024 12:18 (two months ago) link
It was changed from “get into my van”
― epistantophus, Monday, 21 October 2024 12:33 (two months ago) link
Pretty sure Carri-BE-An is UK English?
― Booger Swamp Road (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 21 October 2024 13:16 (two months ago) link
And how it's pronounced in, er, the Caribbean too, I think.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Monday, 21 October 2024 13:49 (two months ago) link
But enochroot was 12 at the time, so fair enough.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Monday, 21 October 2024 13:50 (two months ago) link
Has AC/DC ever used profanity in their songs?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 21 October 2024 13:52 (two months ago) link
Unlikely a bunch of Scottish Australians would ever stoop to profanity.
― pisspoor bung probe prog (Tom D.), Monday, 21 October 2024 13:53 (two months ago) link
I used to wonder whether 'Spies Like Us was some 'Loves like us' thing that McCartney had in the bottom drawer & reworked for the film (but presumably the film already had its name so he must have started from that?)
― woof, Monday, 21 October 2024 14:04 (two months ago) link
I'm working on a theory that Black Hole Sun is really "Asshole Sun" but I don't have all the details worked out yet.
― Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Monday, 28 October 2024 19:35 (one month ago) link
my friend growing up thought it was "Black Old Son" but he also thought Billy Corgan was Chinese and sperm came out of your finger
― Kurt Dandruff (Neanderthal), Monday, 28 October 2024 19:43 (one month ago) link
I thought of another while walking my dog:
Baby Got Back says this: "And I'm thinkin' bout stickin' to the beanpole dames in the magazines. You ain't it, Miss Thing!"
It doesn't make sense. Why would SMAL "stick to" the beanpole dames he's not into? He was never with them in the first place!
It's clearly an edit of this: "And I'm thinkin' bout stickin' my dick in the beanpole dames in the magazines."
That makes more sense, like he's considering switching from booty to beanpole and deciding no. Also, "dick in" is a lot better rhyme. I'm sure that's the original, maybe edited because it seems a little gauche.
― Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Saturday, 7 December 2024 23:31 (two weeks ago) link
I always heard stickin as being the end of the previous lyric and "to the beanpole dames in magazines, you ain't it miss thang" being a completely separate thought
― her pal Santa falls to the floor (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 December 2024 00:20 (two weeks ago) link
And by stickin I interpreted that as "I'm going to do a poppage with you"
― her pal Santa falls to the floor (Neanderthal), Sunday, 8 December 2024 00:22 (two weeks ago) link
ledriver I am intrigued by your premise but so far not-a-one of your examples passes the smell test…I am trying to think of cases of my own. Probably good to focus on concept albums where songs that had been sitting around are tinkered with to fit a larger narrative or reference a character or something. Hmm
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 8 December 2024 04:27 (two weeks ago) link
this did immediately make me think of the Adrienne Lenker/Big Thief song “Vampire Empire” which has been released in a couple different versions over the past year or so. After a lot of criticism from fans about some lyrics getting edited out from the Big Thief single (mostly because they changed rhyming lines to not), the Lenker solo version reinserts them. Not exactly what you’re talking about but related
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Sunday, 8 December 2024 04:30 (two weeks ago) link
It was changed from “get into my van”― epistantophus
― epistantophus
for the record if billy ocean asked me if i wanted to get into his sex van, i probably would
i find it highly unlikely that billy ocean would ask me into his sex van, if indeed he had one
in fact if i were billy ocean, i would not have a sex van. i mean, that would be dumb. me, billy ocean, going up to a girl and saying "hey, baby, get out of my dreams and get into my sex van?" it doesn't matter if that's the line he wrote, if that's the line he _meant_. it doesn't matter if a sex van is far more comfortable, if having sex in a car is bad for his sciatica. (this is all hypothetical. i don't know if billy ocean has sciatica.) if he ever wants to have sex in a motorized conveyance again, it pretty much has to be a car, doesn't it?
this is why _none_ of the many international #1 hit songs i have written contain a pickup line. those things can really be double-edged swords. lucky for me that i did, honestly. a lot of the possible pick-up lines i could use (for instance, anything referencing "double-edged swords") would simply not be applicable to my current situation.
oh, and also, i'm asexual. that probably plays into it.
― Kate (rushomancy), Sunday, 8 December 2024 04:53 (two weeks ago) link
Sex van probably have built-in sex chair inside like Edward VII's for some royal rockin' at 3-o-clock-in.
― Sassy Boutonnière (ledriver), Monday, 9 December 2024 01:02 (two weeks ago) link