Pavement - Slanted & Enchanted/Crooked Rain, Crooked Rain/Wowee Zowee vs Fugazi - Repeater/Steady Diet Of Nothing/In On The Killtaker

Man, literally no contest. Clicked Fugazi before I even read the albums listed from either band.

Same. Even if Steady Diet is relatively weak compared to the other two, damn what a trilogy.

saw both of these bands on their first uk visits, can't even put into words how stupendous fugazi were - manchester boardwalk with sweat dripping off the walls, so much energy and fucking lifeforce in that one small room, even clutching that memory still feels like i'm holding a giant pulsating heart in my hand. that and the young gods at the same venue around the same time, that pretty much ruined all future gigs for me. pavement otoh, eh they were ok i guess?

my two least favorite Fugazi albums are Steady Diet and Kill Take, so Pavement

Love both bands but voted Fugazi without a second thought. I'm a Steady Diet partisan--I think it's a great album. I know people are down on the production, but it has a murky quality I really like, and that I think suits (at least some of) the material. Plus "Reclamation" would be in contention for my single favorite of theirs

Wow, kill taker as someone's least fave Fugazi?That's the first I've heard that.

Repeater and In On The Kill Taker are my 2 faves but I love them all. I love all the pavement albums too.

I don’t get the dislike for Steady Diet, it’s my favourite Fugazi album. I love how tight yet slinky they are on it.

I don't dislike Steady Diet at all. It just suffers in comparison (again, very much relatively speaking).

I started listening to Fugazi with the first EP, and loved everything they did through Repeater and the 3 Songs 7", but then Steady Diet... fell flat for me and I wandered off. I only came back and played catchup with their discography a few years ago, and even then it stayed at the bottom of the list for me. Red Medicine is my favorite of their later stuff but Kill Taker is great, too. And I really don't need to go into my hatred of Pavement again, so I won't.

Steady Diet is kind of sterile, splitting the difference between the early stuff and Repeater, but it is so impressively tight and the songs are great.

Heh, my indie rock origin story: I bought Repeater + 3 Songs and Trigger Cut+2 the same day during a HS spring break on the Côte d'Azur.

Kill Taker's my fav Fugazi record, maybe not by leaps and bounds, but it's just about perfect.

Since this is not a better live band poll, Pavement (who tbc were great when I saw them a year or two ago).

as i recently mentioned on the 80s thread if ian did all the singing on fugazi albums i would probably own every fugazi album but he doesn't so i own none of them. BUT i did discover the post-Rites of Spring album that Guybrow made and i really like it a lot and it sells for a ton but i am keeping it anyway so there you go i finally get to say something nice about him. that record rules. i wasn't a Rites of Spring fan and i had no idea they did anything cool after they broke up. but, anyway, i love everything pavement ever did and they are very definitely one of my fave guitar bands of the 90s so voting for them is easy.

the pavement run that is important to me vs. only the beginning of the fugazi run that is important to me

Scott do you mean the One Last Wish album?

You probably can guess how I voted here.

"Scott do you mean the One Last Wish album?"

no. Happy Go Licky. from 1988. i had no idea what it was when i pulled it out of a box at the store. it's cool. dubby and dark. post-punk. it was reissued later on CD with other stuff by Dischord.

https://i.discogs.com/CTnN1ElDjtfx5MSKF39paRxJJy23dx-ikWWNJ10_t3w/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:599/w:595/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTExMTYw/MTYtMTE5NDIzODc0/NC5qcGVn.jpeg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZCKVcPj8_Y

Ahh yes. There's only 1000 of those in existence.

the live bootleg quality adds to the fun of it. sounds really cool loud.

I love all of these albums but obvs it's Fugazi

Fugazi by several billion light years (and I like Pavement)

Sebadoh never got as big as Pavement but they would be the band I think was on a similar wavelength.

I liked the Grifters better than them both, but liked all three.

Fugazi and the Jesus Lizard were the two best live bands I saw back then. Both of them were just forces of nature.

The variety of awesomeness on that string of 3 by PAVEMENT!

i understand the reflex but this is pavement's three best albums against one of fugazi's best albums

(if you rate fugazi that much higher overall, then okay!)

i always think of ilm as being Pavement City. goo goo and gah gah for Pavement. but i have probably never gone on a Fugazi thread so maybe I missed all the Fugazimania over the years.

fugazi is cool; pavement is not

Gonna be some sad Fugazi fans here when Pavement wins in a landslide lol

the first three meat puppets vs first three dinosaur thread was fun but i gotta say these have gotten stupid

i don't actually disagree but that's kind of rich coming from some dude who ranks essentially everything

no golden age ilm fight reenactments please this thread is already giving me flasbacks given who the last three posters are.

heck the last five posters with the earlnash and the nicky lo-fi for pete's sake...

i know it's pointless to hate on pavement on ilm on so many levels and i ignore all the pavement threads but i just gotta say somewhere that i'm extremely malkmus intolerant.

i voted fugazi and i've never even really listened to them haha

I've probably bored on about this before, but in the UK, I was listening to and worshipping Fugazi from around 1991 but didn't come into contact with Pavement—like, at all. I know maybe three Pavement songs. I'm still waiting for my Pavement phase.

Ftr, if they turn out to be better than Fugazi, I'll eat my socks live on the internet.

washed or unwashed?

the first three meat puppets vs first three dinosaur thread was fun but i gotta say these have gotten stupid

― some dude, Tuesday, 22 October 2024 02:26 (ten hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Polls justification and badge of fucking honour truly earned.

this seems like a choice between types of guys
lackadaisical guys vs intense guys

These polls are getting stupid. And I even did the Native Tongues one. Not voting this time.

lackadaisical guys forever

intense guys are hilarious. "ooh, you're so intense!"

Back in the day I would have voted Fugazi, but I much prefer listening to Pavement these days. All the furrowed brow 90's stuff feels less appealing to me now.

one person's lackadaisical is another person's vapid and self-satisfied

which offshoot bands had the best kids song?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MYn_iuPueKw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gBwXGlAbc3o

Re: lackadaisical, I often think of Malkmus in Slow Century talking about the Wowee Zowee singles (Rattled by the Rush and Father to a Sister of Thought) as the follow ups to their sort of hit "Cut Your Hair". Paraphrasing, he said, "I was smoking a lot of pot, but they sounded like hits to me."

Both lackadaisical and intense could be positive or negative depending on your orientation toward that type of guy.

And your experiences.

one person's lackadaisical is another person's vapid and self-satisfied

― he/him hoo-hah (map), Tuesday, October 22, 2024 1:26 PM (forty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah I'm the another person in this case

I love both bands, but in this one I have to give the slight edge to Pavement. If this was Kill Taker/Red Medicine/End Hits (my Fugazi loving prime years), it would def by Fugazi.

These polls are getting stupid. And I even did the Native Tongues one. Not voting this time.

― avoid boring people, Tuesday, 22 October 2024 15:12 (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I'm enjoying them but I'm not forcing anyone to join in.

Honestly I know Fugazi are a better band. And I like them. But if I had to listen to three albums in a row I’d choose Pavement bc intense men make me uncomfortable in heavy doses.

I love both bands, but in this one I have to give the slight edge to Pavement. If this was Kill Taker/Red Medicine/End Hits (my Fugazi loving prime years), it would def by Fugazi.

― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, October 22, 2024 1:20 PM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah this is what i was saying obliquely upthread. and that run is relatively lackadaisical, for fugazi at least.

These polls are getting stupid. And I even did the Native Tongues one. Not voting this time.

― avoid boring people, Tuesday, 22 October 2024 15:12 (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I'm enjoying them but I'm not forcing anyone to join in.

― Toshirō Nofune (The Seventh ILXorai), Tuesday, October 22, 2024 7:21 PM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yes i would advise the poster quoted to avoid threads he finds boring

they should change their name to *avoid boring polls* and that way they would remember not to click on them.

i have a really good idea for one of these that barely anyone will vote in, don’t ruin it for me

Do it, Ivy.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/235644083395?_skw=fugazi+te2413&itmmeta=01JAN85S6HF89WC7ES9B342Q66

This must be the hundredth pavement thread

Fun fact: The Edge loves Fugazi

Does The Edge post on ILX?

I guess we need to ask fact checkin cuz

mashing that Fugazi button so hard

i understand the reflex but this is pavement's three best albums against one of fugazi's best albums

(if you rate fugazi that much higher overall, then okay!)

― mookieproof

mookieproof otm

I do not understand the love for Kill Taker, I mean of course they were one of the best bands on earth when it came out, but there is just not enough space in the sound of that record for me, it is so claustrophobic and full

(I realize that may be what some folks love abt it)

I came back around to Fugazi in a big way when Red Medicine came out, but the two albums between Repeater and that left me unenthused

Sleeve, Kill Taker is the only Fugazi I’ll never listen to again - everything about it felt WRONG, repulsive

Loving these threads.

Paaaaavement all the way.

Sleeve, Kill Taker is the only Fugazi I’ll never listen to again - everything about it felt WRONG, repulsive

Repulsive? How?

both of these boring US bands can go suck a fuck!

lol

Yeah happy mondays is SO much more interesting

that rhetoric doesn't work on me, because in the main, much of my fave music is US music. Just not any of this shite.

sorry for the negativity. i just think even if pavement vs fugazi is a mildly interesting question that says something about you, the 'first three albums' thing feels very arbitrary. especially for these 2 bands! they have almost eerie symmetry of a similar amount of music over mostly the same time period! like, fugazi means a lot more to me overall, but i'd have to vote for pavement here mainly because they peaked early.

It was slim is an alien that came up with the 1st three album thing but I thought it was a great different idea and ran with it. I decided to expand it out from just being SST bands.
I was going to do Orbital vs Underworld next but since a new album just came out I prob won't bother as I assume everyone would rather discuss that.

Anybody is free to run their own if the subjects are not to their tastes.

I mean, don't let me stop you, I'll shut up. With changing display names I don't even know who you were last time I was posting here regularly a decade ago, but clearly I left a bad impression then and am not doing much better now!

They were c-man a decade ago.

lol no skot

I have no issues with you some dude dont worry

though it is scary when I come across people who know who CRW is in his professional life.

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so much for xStraightXEdgex.

Slackers rule!

love both these bands too much, couldn't bring myself to vote in the poll

my poll was gonna be chameleons vs. comsat angels first three albums

heh that's funny, as I had been considering The Sound vs Comsat Angels

i think i've narrowed down my very favorite Pavement album tracks: cream of gold, the hexx, shady lane, old to begin, father to a sister of thought, stop breathin', summer babe, in the mouth a desert.

been listening to them on the headphones today at work.