I don't think there's many areas of music where someone doesn't know more than I do on ILM, but posters from Portugal are few and far in between, so I figure this is one contribution I can make?
Let's start off with José Mário Branco's Ser Solidário
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBrp6b2th4Q
So as you may know, from 1933 to 1974 Portugal was under a fascist dictatorship. During this era, most of the resistance came from the (illegalized) communist party. Musically the regime-approved stuff tended to be crooners and easy listening stuff, as well as some folklore and of course fado music. Anglo-American influences did start seeping in, particularly amongst younger, wealthier types who could visit London or Paris and pick up LPs of what was hot over there, but the country was isolationist and the 60's didn't hit in anywhere near the same way that they did in most of Western Europe.
The resistance also had its soundtrack: balladeers, in some ways analogous to early Bob Dylan or Joan Baez, but really I think a better point of reference would be someone like Georges Moustaki, it's "folk" but belonging to a European tradition rather than Folkways. Out of that movement, the three biggest names are José Afonso, Sérgio Godinho and my personal favourite, José Mário Branco. Branco had a very wide musical culture, also producing some of the other artists, and you can really tell when you compare his works to those of more basic protest singers.
Fast forward to 1982: the dictatorship fell in 1974, leading to a chaotic period during which many, José Mário Branco obviously included, imagined Portugal would move towards some form of socialism. After some years of instability, with frequent changes in government, economic chaos and terrorism (sponsored by the usual suspects), things settled into a generic Western capitalist democracy. For Branco it was enormously disappointing, and I think you can hear all the exhaustion of years of struggle in this album, the anger at where things ended up and the scars of leftist infighting. It is to me a sort of closing line for a period in Portuguese history. Musically meanwhile it's the most eclectic and ambitious thing he ever did, taking in fado, popular marching music, blues rock, jazz-funk, chanson and a cover of "Maiden Voyage".
The title comes from a short story by Albert Camus, about a painter. After he dies, a canvas is found in his apartment and it is impossible to see whether it says "to be solitary" (solitaire/solitário) or "to be in solidarity" (solidaire/solidário), clearly something that spoke to Branco at the time. This kind of literary reference is quite common in Portuguese music of that time and not viewed as pretentious - writers and musicians hung out, drunk together, belonged to the same culture. For example, this album features two re-recordings of poems Branco had put to music - "Queixa das Almas Jovens Censuradas", by Natália Correia, and "A Morte Nunca Existiu", by António Joaquim Lança.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 22 October 2024 10:18 (six months ago)
thanks for this, it promises to be very interesting. I have a good Portuguese friend who is currently based in Ireland, I will share this thread with him!
― Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Tuesday, 22 October 2024 10:40 (six months ago)
excellent and generous thread idea! bookmarked -- hopefully I can keep up
love the bit about the titular wordplay
― rob, Tuesday, 22 October 2024 13:54 (six months ago)
Listening to *Ser Solidario* and holy shit at 'Sopram ventos adversos (Maiden voyage)'! I was not expecting jazz fusion.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Tuesday, 22 October 2024 16:39 (six months ago)
Yes, cool thread, thanks
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Tuesday, 22 October 2024 16:41 (six months ago)
Thanks guys! Think I'll post like an album a week so ppl can digest :)
Yes, it's an album full of surprises, even if you know his previous work. Always wanted to drop "Linda Olinda" into some DJ set, as this is not an artist known to appeal to the dancefloor, to say the least.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 22 October 2024 17:09 (six months ago)
Great thread indeed -- do keep it coming.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 22 October 2024 17:36 (six months ago)
Bookmarked, sounds like a great idea
― nxd, Tuesday, 22 October 2024 17:39 (six months ago)
bookmarked
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 22 October 2024 19:24 (six months ago)
Threads like this are why ILX rules
― that's not my post, Tuesday, 22 October 2024 23:02 (six months ago)
Amen!This Carlos Paredes playlist incl. several from Dialogues, his early 90s alb w Charlie Haden, an ancient fave I can't find entire on a free stream---haven't listened to all of these other tracks yet, but suspect they're good:http://www.youtube.com/playlist?app=desktop&list=PL9GUR5CrLeg3-g1uJ6rSQ2ZrqJbq2RkN7
― dow, Tuesday, 22 October 2024 23:53 (six months ago)
the only things i really know about portuguese music are the two folkways volumes ("anthology of portuguese music") and josé cid/quarteto 1111. oh, and i guess the portuguese nuggets compilations, haha.
so, not much. thanks so much for the write-up. thought this was an interesting detail:
This kind of literary reference is quite common in Portuguese music of that time and not viewed as pretentious - writers and musicians hung out, drunk together, belonged to the same culture.
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 22 October 2024 23:54 (six months ago)
i had originally planned to follow up on that idea, but i can't tell if what i was trying to say makes sense. but would be curious to hear more about that milieu, and how they viewed US jazz/etc music, and how that affected how those american influences blended with the portuguese traditions (whether leftist/intellectual or folkways)
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 22 October 2024 23:58 (six months ago)
Yeah I'm worried about making too many blanket statements here, but:
Portugal is ultimately a small country, and back then it must've felt even smaller, so these people would bump into each other regularly, particularly since both groups also generally shared marxist beliefs. It's really quite common for artists to put poetry to music, and there's also examples of collaboration - even as recently as the 90's, singer Vitorino (who will show up on this thread someday I'm sure) made an album with lyrics by famed novelist António Lobo Antunes (Eu Que Me Comovo Por Tudo E Por Nada - roughly, "I, who am moved by any old thing").
Outside of some small groups of rich kids 60's Portugal really didn't have the youth culture/generation gap thing as much, so the idea of pop music as a closed off subculture made less sense I guess. The main influence in those days wasn't yet the US* but rather France (people of a certain age will have learned French, not English, in high school...and both political dissidents and working class people looking for work would move to Paris) and I think this plays into it as well, with figures like Boris Vian or Jacques Prevert penning song lyrics and the focus on lyrics in chanson in general. Then there's the Eastern bloc influence - the Portuguese communist party had direct ties to the Soviet Union. My guess, without having actually heard any of these artists be asked about it, is that they would mostly view Rock & Roll, The Beatles and such as capitalist trivialities. Jazz of course would be exempted from this and viewed as high culture - as it was behind the Iron Curtain.
Ruy Castro in his Bossa Nova book talks about how artists like Elis Regina rejected the whole tropicalista movement as American cultural imperialism**. I'd imagine attitudes in Portugal would have been similar, and tbh the fact that Portugal never had its anthropophagic moment is to our detriment - we have music that is made in anglo-american idioms and music that's outside of or opposed to those influences but we never had ppl like Caetano, Gilberto Gil, etc. throw it all together...I think Ser Solidário is actually the closest we've come to that.
* Relations with the US were strained since post WWII, as the US supported UN motions for Portugal to drop its colonies, leading to protests in Lisbon with people holding "give America back to the natives" signs (insert "worst person you know just made a good point" meme here); obviously this wouldn't have influenced the artists I mention, who were all opposed to the holding of colonies as well, but for society in general it made a difference. Don't want to overstate it though, American cinema was obv huge, as were American TV shows. And politically, the US knew that if the regime was to fall the communists would be poised to take over, and geopolitically the US has prefered fascism over communism since WWII. Plus there was/is that convenient military base in the Azores.
** And from there you can trace the parallell to the US folk scene's anger at Dylan going electric, tho obv the dynamics are different.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 23 October 2024 09:41 (six months ago)
This is fascinating. All I really know of Portuguese music is a fantastic fado performance and all of the amazing buskers we saw in Porto.
― DJP, Wednesday, 23 October 2024 12:38 (six months ago)
I listened to the first "volume" (as Tidal has it) of Ser Solidário yesterday. as you said Daniel, it's really impressively compendious genre-wise. I was pretty thrown by the big sonic switch in the first track and then the rest proceeded to zig and zag from there
― rob, Wednesday, 23 October 2024 13:12 (six months ago)
Daniel, thanks for this, very well written and insightful. I find Portuguese history fascinating and loved my trip there earlier this year.
― Booger Swamp Road (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 23 October 2024 13:47 (six months ago)
thank you, drf!
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 23 October 2024 15:46 (six months ago)
Today's album is Anjo Da Guarda by António Variações.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0c0QfFufTk
So we're firmly in the 80's now. This album is actually from the same year as Ser Solidário, but couldn't be much more different - a new generation, a new context, a new country.
The 80's saw Portugal adjust to the yuppie zeitgeist, but to fully understand this, you have to imagine that we got the postwar economic miracle AND 80's hedonism basically at once. Suddenly the masses had access to consumer culture, a higher standard of living, youth culture - and the generation coming of age into this truly became modern teenagers, interested mostly in US and UK pop music. There had been Portuguese Garage Rock and, in the 70's, Prog Rock, but the 80's was when Portuguese Rock music truly went mainstream and became the main idiom young people would express themselves in. At the same time, you have to hold in your head that this was still a super rural country, most of the population working in farming or fishing, most working class people over a certain age having had no access to even primary school education, and a deeply Catholic country.
António Variações encapsulates all this. He was hyper modern, a hairdresser who had lived in NYC and partied at Studio 54, making contemporary Pop music with lyrics about sex, drugs and other hedonisms. And yet he also had a huge fondness for religious rites, worshipped his mother and was obsessed with queen of fado Amália Rodrigues. Another important factor, if you hadn't guessed, is that he was a gay man at a time when this was absolutely beyond the pale in Portugal. Tragically, he was an early victim of the AIDS crisis, and the stigma attached to this meant even his funeral was sparsely attended. In the following decades, though, he has become an almost universally beloved figure: his unfinished songs were recorded by a group of famous Portuguese artists, there was a recent biopic, and for contemporary queer artists in Portugal he is now a foundational figure. I have friends who mostly dislike Portuguese music in general and even they love Variações.
Anjo Da Guarda starts with a cover of "Povo Que Lavas No Rio", one of Amália Rodrigues' signature songs. Here's the original, to see how radical the cover must have sounded at the time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMLUxxjSVMs
...and ends with a tribute to Amália ("all of us have Amália in our voice/and we have in her voice/the voice of all of us"), thus cementing the hero worship.
"O Corpo É Que Paga" was the big hit single, an ode to hedonism that has become an anthem for many generations of drunk students:
When the head's not being smartWhen you make a bigger effort than you shouldIt's the body that paysOh let it pay, let it payAs long as you're having fun
But what I really love about Variações is the underlying melancholy. Many of his songs are about people who've become isolated in their inner lives, indifferent to the world, or yearning for some lost dream. Song titles like "Estou Além" (literally "I'm beyond", but a more apt translation would be "I'm out of reach") or "Sempre Ausente" (always absent). Lord knows the man must have had a tough life, and you can feel it in these songs.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 28 October 2024 12:10 (six months ago)
Good stuff, will make my way through from the top
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 28 October 2024 12:38 (six months ago)
Same. These are amazing posts.
― TheNuNuNu, Monday, 28 October 2024 12:54 (six months ago)
Also, these snippets of translated lyrics rule. I'd love if that became a regular part of your write-ups.
― TheNuNuNu, Monday, 28 October 2024 12:56 (six months ago)
This Variações album is really good. Great thread.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 28 October 2024 13:27 (six months ago)
TheNuNuNu, your effort in translating Hosono lyrics was an inspiration for this thread :)
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 28 October 2024 15:10 (six months ago)
What!! So happy to hear that!
Don't sleep on Matsumoto then, he was king for a few years there, as I've spent the last few months learning. Nobody visits the Happy End thread but...
And I've just noticed I tend to like the '60s and '70s a lot more when the music gets refracted through latecomers to it, like in Japan or Poland, so this stuff you're recommending sounds really interesting. I had no idea Portugal's history was this fraught this recently.
― TheNuNuNu, Monday, 28 October 2024 16:22 (six months ago)
Listening to new music with informed cultural context is so ridiculously satisfying to me. Great stuff Daniel.
― I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Monday, 28 October 2024 19:55 (six months ago)
cuing this up now!
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 29 October 2024 02:12 (six months ago)
Amazing thread
― Allen (etaeoe), Tuesday, 29 October 2024 02:21 (six months ago)
http://youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lXc5OO7_4Ro-T_aBdnpTrXdkgBmuQUwOc&si=v7Nf8MCPZJxcdWjH
Ok, so we had to get to fado at some point. As comments in this thread confirm, it is the most well known Portuguese music genre internationally. There are some misconceptions attached to it: people for instance assume that it is "traditional Portuguese music", when in reality it is a relatively recent music, coming together during the 19th century. At its inception, it was very explicitly an urban style, and as such confined to the cities - though Portugal had its industrial revolution, it was limited, and the vast majority of the country remained rural. It was also associated with nightlife, sex work, criminality. This remains a part of its DNA, despite many waves of gentrification.
Another misconception is that it was influenced by Arabic music. That is a nice thought, and you can see how people would get there considering there is indeed an Arabic legacy in Portuguese culture from the days of the caliphate, but recent musicologists seem agreed that there is no substance to it. One theory is that this misconception originated because of Amália Rodrigues, whose voice does indeed bear an uncanny resemblance to some Arabic singing styles - but that's her signature style, not fado in general.
And yeah, you can't really talk fado without talking Amália. No one else even comes close in terms of iconic stature: you could liken her position to that of Edith Piaf in France, a beloved national symbol, the diva to end all divas and, because of this, also a big gay icon. Politically she was embraced by the regime, and younger generations at one point thought of her as an Artist of the Regime, though it was always known that she used her leverage to sing lyrics by leftist poets that, if it has been others attempting to do so, could have fallen prey to censorship. More recently though evidence has come to light that she also frequently helped the underground resistance, leading to some "antifa amália" memes on Portuguese twitter. Apparently this connection was kept secret but known by the communist party bigwigs, who when there were some post-revolution riots attacking the rich houses of the regime, made sure hers was passed over.
I remember I was in middle school when she died and it was a HUGE event. Since then many other giants of Portuguese culture have passed - writers like Saramago and Cesarinny, musicians like Carlos Paredes and José Mário Branco, directors like Manoel de Oliveira, politicians like Álvaro Cunhal and Mário Soares - and it strikes me that kids growing up today will regard all these people as ancient history. Not a fan of this aging and mortality lark!
Anyway, Com Que Voz, from 1971, is generally regarded as her masterpiece. As she often did, she was working with songwriter and aranger Alain Oulman, who also took charge of picking the poems that would be turned into songs (some of the most quintessentially Portuguese recordings ever made were thus partially the creation of the son of a French-Jewish family; you always run into these kinds of situations when you dig deep enough into mythical national spirit stories). Controversially at the time, these included a poem by Luís de Camões (1524-1580), Portugal's national poet, which some saw as heresy. His is the title track, and it fits Amália like a glove:
With what voiceShall I sing my sad fate?
(The actual word used is "fado" - though now associated only to the musical genre, traditionally this was also a word for fate/destiny).
But it also included work from many contemporary poets, most of them on the left. Perhaps the most blatant example here is "Trova do Vento Que Passa", a poem by Manuel Alegre, a future socialist MP and at the time a dissident exiled in France. His poem had already been put to music by protest singer Adriano Correia de Oliveira:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=McRqaiBmIT4
Within that context, it was widely understood to be a political song against the regime and specifically against the colonial wars that were then raging against different revolutionary factions in African countries. It was a huge risk for Amália to record it. First verse:
I ask the passing windsOf news of my home countryAnd the winds silence the disgraceThe winds tell me nothing
Interestingly Alegre wrote new lyrics for her, so after that the Adriano and Amália versions differ. I don't know for sure that this is because it would have been too risky for Amália to sing the original conclusion, but I wouldn't bet against it:
But even at the saddest hourIn times of solitudeThere is always someone who resistsThere is always someone who says "no"
Another interesting name is Alexandre O'Neill, the grand master of Portuguese surrealism. Oulman picked two poems of his, one of which lead to "Formiga Bossa Nova" (which might not strike you instantly as a bossa, but it ain't regular fado either), the other the none-more-iconic "Gaivota" (Seagull) :
If a seagull were to comeAnd bring me the sky of LisbonThrough the path she would flyIn this sky where sightIs a flightless wingThat withers and falls into the sea
Kinda amazing that heady imagery like this was picked up and included into a super popular song!
Musically you get a lot of the classic melancholy fados that Amália specialized in, accompanied by reminders that fado is also party music ("Maria Lisboa", "Havemos De Ir A Viana"). "Formiga Bossa Nova" is an example of the electicism that has been mostly forgotten in the artist's ouevre - it should be noted she recorded many songs in Italian and French, tackled the Great American Songbook, and recorded a jazz record with Don Byas.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 4 November 2024 12:40 (six months ago)
Link up top is a playlist of the album, couldn't find a single youtube with all the music.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 4 November 2024 12:41 (six months ago)
Fascinating reading, Daniel. Listening-wise I'm still only up to Side B of the Branco (loved Side A, especially the quieter/folk songs/segments) but I'll be catching up.
― TheNuNuNu, Monday, 4 November 2024 12:57 (six months ago)
Man I can’t wait to dig into this.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 November 2024 13:14 (six months ago)
there's no way i have the bandwidth for this tonight, but hopefully sometime this week
― budo jeru, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 00:55 (six months ago)
oh god yes I imagine it must be hard to focus on...anything in the US right now, much love to you budo jeru
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 6 November 2024 10:17 (six months ago)
I love this thread! My mom came to the US from Portugal when she was a teenager, and I still have relatives over there. I grew up only loosely connected to Portuguese culture, and I've always wanted to learn more about it. I visited Braga this past summer and asked my aunt and uncle there to bring me to a record store so I could see what was popular locally. We ended up at a FNAC at the mall. At first I was a bit disappointed that it wasn't an actual record store, but they had a surprisingly solid vinyl selection as well as an interesting promotional campaign celebrating what they saw as the greatest Portuguese records of all time, paired with repressings of each featured record.
I picked up a few of them, including José Mário Branco's 1971 record "Mudam-se os Tempos, Modan-se as Vontades". I was sold by FNAC's description of it as a thinly-veiled protest record released just as the Estado Novo regime was starting to falter. It's a solid album, but I really feel I'm missing something because I don't speak the language. It seems like an album that's really all about the lyrics.
I really like this psych rock track though:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gUHwvEs0T7c
Thanks to this thread, I'm listening to Ser Solidário now, and boy, I wish I'd picked this one up! It's even more all over the place stylistically, and such a fun listen.
― OneSecondBefore, Thursday, 7 November 2024 21:18 (six months ago)
I would also like to strongly recommend one of the records that FNAC was promoting as a classic Portuguese album when I visited Braga:
Pop Dell'Arte - Free Pop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wflyMuuIg8
I don't know a lot of context about this record, but man, this is some top notch experimental post-punk! The first time I listened to it, I could not believe my ears. It's either a credit to FNAC or a credit to Portuguese music culture in general that they were reissuing this as one of the country's top albums of all time, because it is much stranger than I'd expect for a received-wisdom pop classic. I have never heard a vocalist who sounds deranged in quite this way. Apparently the lyrics include Situationist slogans/rhetoric too, so that's pretty cool.
― OneSecondBefore, Thursday, 7 November 2024 21:26 (six months ago)
Oh P.S., Pop Dell'Arte's members included Rafael Toral on guitar, current ILM darling for his new ambient record Spectral Evolution:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeFG3pNHbTs
― OneSecondBefore, Thursday, 7 November 2024 21:29 (six months ago)
love that toral record!
― nxd, Thursday, 7 November 2024 21:39 (six months ago)
I am really trying to like it but I love Wave Field and Aeriola Frequency so much that it's hard to adjust
― sleeve, Thursday, 7 November 2024 22:02 (six months ago)
We ended up at a FNAC at the mall. At first I was a bit disappointed that it wasn't an actual record store, but they had a surprisingly solid vinyl selection as well as an interesting promotional campaign celebrating what they saw as the greatest Portuguese records of all time, paired with repressings of each featured record.
FNAC is a French chain. Much of my twenties was spent at various branches in Porto, buying CDs, DVDs, video games, books (including a lot of English language stuff). Whenever I go back I am slightly depressed by seeing all those sections shrink and lose ground to tech toys and funko pops. Anyway yeah def not a "real" record store but it was my equivalent of having a Virgin Megastore or Tower Records.
I was sold by FNAC's description of it as a thinly-veiled protest record
It's really impressive when you get to it how much stuff made it past the censor, both in music and literature (cinema had a harder time). State censors as a rule weren't the most highly cultured of people, not apt to pick up on metaphors, it didn't take much to outwit them. Come to think of it this might be another reason why there was so much overlap between writers and musicians - poets were good at smuggling that sort of thing in.
I really feel I'm missing something because I don't speak the language. It seems like an album that's really all about the lyrics.
Yeah, certainly with those protest singers of the 60's and 70's the lyrics are a big part of the deal, if they ever got released outside Portugal I think they'd have to come with translated lyric sheets. What did you think of "Perfilados De Medo"? That's the most intriguing track on that album musicwise I think.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 12 November 2024 10:43 (five months ago)
"Cantiga Para Pedir Dois Tostões" was written by Sérgio Godinho, one of the big three from this protest movement (along with Branco and Zeca Afonso). He is the youngest, and indeed the only one still alive, so he creates a bridge between that generation and the Portuguese Pop to follow. Just kind of a national treasure. This song specifically is about someone who's climbed the class ladder, returned from abroad and now happily integrated into the system. Here's my translation of the lyrics; doing this I actually noticed it's quite representative of what I was talking about, it is not explicitly about the regime but you have to be pretty dense not to pick up on the clues.
A SONG TO ASK FOR A FEW COINS
There are two trains stoppedOn the tracksYou went far and you've returnedBringing well cared for suitsAnd you're already thinking aboutGlazing your front door with goldIf you are now the boss of 10 or 20 peopleYou are also the slave of a thousand
You have returnedWith a finger on every ringAnd projects on paperAnd forgotten friendsThe days bygoneAre days that wull returnIn which you will ask the groundFor the promised feasts
Hey returning millionaireA few coins please for those you've betrayed
You build bridges over rivers and valleysBut we have drownedBy the time the cement is dryYou build fountains in the silence of villagesAnd we are so thirsty that we drinkUntil there's water in our veins
You have placed parasols and big shots*Bottlickers, glove kissersSoft rocks and hard waters **You inaugurate monuments to the pastWhich is dead and buriedBetween caravels and armors ***
As for us, we the singers of pallourNo woman has ever born healthy childrenFrom our songThere isn't even any honey on our branchesBecause the bee we sing toWill forever be a fly
* This is untranslateable wordplay - the word he uses is "mandachuva" (rainmaker), thus establishing a sun/rain contrast** This as well - it's a play on the popular saying "soft water on hard stone, it hits so long until it pierces it" (água mole em pedra dura, tanto bate até que fura).*** The Salazar regime was big on crowing about our Glorious Past, i.e. the era of Portuguese maritime exploration. This is sadly an affectation the country didn't fully shake off until...well I don't think we have, even now.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 12 November 2024 11:13 (five months ago)
It's either a credit to FNAC or a credit to Portuguese music culture in general that they were reissuing this as one of the country's top albums of all time, because it is much stranger than I'd expect for a received-wisdom pop classic.
Pop Dell'Arte rule, I think you should think of them as analogous to something like The Velvet Underground or Sonic Youth - worshipped amongst critics and music geeks, but ask a random person on the street about them in Portugal and you'll get blank stares. The one band from the same scene that got some real mainstream success are Mão Morta.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 12 November 2024 11:23 (five months ago)
"a finger for every ring"--so far! I sometimes wonder about the (frequently unimpressive) physical reality vs. that of their money and possesions, all getting absorbed into increasingly rarefied recombinant systems---here's a conglomerate merging with others and becoming etc---and still no cure for senility, boss, but we're on the case."Soft rocks and hard waters" suggests other physical etc. aspects in context.
― dow, Tuesday, 12 November 2024 23:20 (five months ago)
Very excited about this, I am from S Miguel:
http://www.instagram.com/reel/DB4CDm9pEBv/?igsh=MzdjN2Q4MmI5bTJv
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 13 November 2024 10:39 (five months ago)
Since Pop Dell'Arte have been introduced to this thread, I figured I'd focus on the work their label, Ama Romanta, did to promote Portuguese independent music. This compilation, from 1986, is a formative document for alternative music in Portugal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wELLzspTgFA
Organised by Dell'Arte frontman João Peste (literally "John Plague" - yes, it's a pseudonym), and taking advantage of the many contacts the group had made touring up and down the country, this is a snapshot of what kind of music the majors weren't interested in. So a lot of Punk and Post Punk, but also jazz (Mário Morgado, Nuno Rebelo, Pedro Mourão - Situação Aparente), guitar experimentation (Mário & Peter - Duas Árvores), kosmisch ambient (SPQR - Flow), C86 style Indie Pop (Essa Entente - La Féria) and my personal favourite, the leftfield pop of dadaist inspired band Mler Iffe Dada, whose "Le Amour Va Bien, Merci" has lead vocalist Anabela Duarte vamping not-quite-meaningless French ("Alain Delon et la passion, Alain Delon et le poisson"). Listening to it now one thing that struck me was how much of an influence Amália Rodrigues had on female vocalists back then, including ppl from a very different generation who probably viewed themselves in opposition to her. Anamar was consciously an attempt to integrate fado into an alternative music context, but you can also hear it on Duarte's final vamps and the female vocalist on the Pop Dell'Arte track.
Two pieces of context for this compilation: one, it followed a period of a Portuguese rock boom, when labels were for the first time very interested in signing new bands and turning them into commercial powerhouses. The kind of music present on Divergências is, to a large degree, a reaction against that.
The second is the election of Cavaco Silva as prime minister in 1985. A right wing politician economically aligned with Reagan and Thatcher, his election cemented Portugal as now being on the same course as most of the Western world and made the revolutionary period appear more than ever like ancient history. So it is not a coincidence that the record also includes an interview with sociologist Paquete de Oliveira about "cultural dictatorships". The soundbed under that one is no big shakes so if you don't speak Portuguese I'd recommend skipping - though conversely, if listening to someone describe cultural dictatorships in a language you don't understand while namedropping Pasolini makes you feel really cool, be my guest, I won't judge.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 18 November 2024 11:37 (five months ago)
sounding incredible
― nxd, Monday, 18 November 2024 16:40 (five months ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wy9j-Ci_4-w
Still in the Post Punk world, but with a much poppier sound, Rádio Macau were a band from the suburbs - vocalist Xana, whose voice does much to elevate the records, was 14 when she joined the band and celebrated her 18th birthday in the studio recording this debut album. They enjoyed a decent level of popularity from the get-go, but are probably best remembered now for 90's MOR hit "O Anzol":
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcw0HyD2UC0
Much more conventional than the music on the album I posted, I nonetheless love it a lot. It's emblematic to me of my childhood, an era in which my dad was busily exploring the music of the country we'd moved to. In a way the 90's feel like the 80's for Portuguese artists to me, in that there were all these monster selling albums by acts in their 30's or 40's who had previously been edgier, kind of an AOR era even though the music sounds nothing like US AOR.
Anyway, back to 1984 and their debut. "Mais Uma Canção Sobre Edifícios A Arder" ("Another Song About Burning Buildings") pays lyrical tribute to Talking Heads, but tucked away at the end of the album there is a more unlikely influence - a cover of "Comboio Descendente", originally by José Afonso, one of the big three of Portuguese protest music, along with José Mário Branco and Sérgio Godinho:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nklqhgi0cpk
This was a very surprising choice in Portugal circa 1984, busy becoming a modern consumerist society and mostly wishing these old voices of conscience would give it a rest. Afonso expressed interest in meeting them - sadly he passed before this could be arranged. To add an extra twist, this is yet another example of an adapted poem - this time a piece by Fernando Pessoa.
I went to Macau this year and in a friend's car I was amazed to discover that there is indeed a Portuguese language station called Radio Macau.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 25 November 2024 11:33 (five months ago)
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― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 25 November 2024 16:19 (five months ago)
You're reminding me of a couple of amazing comps---not yet seeing Simon Reynolds' Voice coverage, but this writer references that, then gives his own takes:
Acclaimed music theorist and renowned author, Simon Reynolds pointed out in his article on the subject in The Village Voice, that the constant mining of Post-Punk during the noughties left slim pickings and the archivists had to go further afield to find lost and undocumented curios. The smart money would have gone to another European country with a similar grey weather and dour temperament to England, Germany for example. However, surprisingly, the compilations “Não Wave – Brazilian Post-Punk 1982-1988” (Man Recordings) and “The Sexual Life of the Savages” (Soul Jazz), both released in 2005, shed light on a tropical music scene in Brazil very much influenced by the leading contemporaries in the UK and USA while at the same time embracing the local flavas of samba and Bossa Nova.
― dow, Wednesday, 27 November 2024 00:53 (five months ago)
The Rádio Macau album I posted has a Brazilian commenter comparing them to BR group Legião Urbana (and also asking if they're really from Macao - would be a cooler story than being from Sintra I admit).
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 27 November 2024 10:04 (five months ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgCVHyQOKG0
Well, we had to get here.
On the 25th of April of 1974, members of the Portuguese armed forces, frustrated by pointless colonial wars and wishing an end to the regime, drove their tanks to the headquarters of the Portuguese government. The code to start this operation was that a song be played on the radio - "Grândola Vila Morena" by José Afonso. The song thus became inextricably linked to the revolution and is sung frequently at commemorations as well as leftist protests. During covid there was an initiative to have everyone sing it from their window. A friend living in a rougher neighbourhood told me it was a very moving experience to see the locals - old widows, sex workers, junkies - come out and chime in. It should really be the national anthem.
It's also the least musically interesting track on this album.
José Afonso is one of the big three of Portuguese protest song (along with José Mário Branco and Sérgio Godinho), and out of those three he's the most canonised - there's streets named after "Zeca" (as he was nicknamed) and a tribute album featuring pretty much every major name in Portuguese music at the time it came out. Exiled in France due to his communist militancy, Afonso recorded this album in Paris, with José Mário Branco producing. Afonso has a unique, ethereal voice, and a lot of the tracks on here I think could appeal to fans of Acid Folk. You can feel the influence of Angolan music in the opener "Senhor Arcanjo" - African rhythms would continue to fascinate him throughout his career. "Maio Maduro Maio" and "Coro Da Primavera", meanwhile, have a gentle psych side to them.
Cantigas De Maio, due to its immense historical importance, overshadowed a lot of Afonso's subsequent work, but he kept making interesting albums until his death in 1987 from sclerosis.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 3 December 2024 12:07 (five months ago)
Still haven't caught up but very glad the list keeps growing. This one sounds like it could be exactly my kind of music. Thanks for keeping the project going, Daniel.
― TheNuNuNu, Tuesday, 3 December 2024 14:29 (five months ago)
Thanks! I expected comments to drop off after the first few albums, hopefully ppl are lurking and enjoying. :)
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 4 December 2024 14:15 (five months ago)
Couple things that drew my attention while I was in Portugal:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjwlJjYN96s
This starts a bit schmindie for me but I really dig the skronkier climax.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UO-6h1dlYgs
New fado covers of songs from the revolutionary era. I'm trying to find a way to say this that doesn't end up sounding sexist or prudish but gotta say I find the disconnect between the music and the aesthetics of the video...strange.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 15 February 2025 11:18 (two months ago)
Hear me out: Sexy people wearing nothing but hammer and sickle flags
― Slayer University (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 15 February 2025 16:07 (two months ago)
Communists are allowed to be sexy, yes.
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 15 February 2025 16:39 (two months ago)
Well it's less about the communism and more about the specific lyrics if that song, which is called Death Walked The Streets.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Saturday, 15 February 2025 21:02 (two months ago)
Ah thanks, my Portuguese is rudimentary
― Slayer University (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 15 February 2025 21:03 (two months ago)
I am reading a book on protest music "in Portugal and through the world", 1964-1974. Picked it up to read not just about Portugal but also the chapters on France, Italy, Brazil and South America (pretty much planning to skip the ones on the Anglosphere, pretty sure I already know all of this).
Anyway sadly it is not a good book, just zips from event to event, anecdote to anecdote, without any sort of coherence, be it thematic, chronological or even just the writer's passion carrying you along. It goes into long digressions about the political and cultural landscape, which is fine, but fails to really focus in on the conditions under which this music flourished. It is nonetheless full of interesting factoids so I will keep reading...well, it's introduced me to this album for one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yI5994hkEKE
Duo Ouro Negro were part of the easy listening mainstream of the 60's, doing a sort of cabaret act taking in traditional Angolan music...I suppose if I were to reach for a point of comparison I'd say Harry Belafonte, though very much without Belafonte's political context - in 1960's Portugal if you were invited on the telly frequently you def weren't an outspoken leftist. It was politically useful for the regime to point at successful black faces, as its contemporary stance was that Angola, Mozambique, etc. were not colonies but rather equal partners in the Portuguese state, and that any black person had the same opportunities of any white person (what went unsaid in this rhetoric was that in order to attain any position, the black individual would have to wear exclusively western clothes, not speak any African languages, convert to catholicism - in effect an attempt at cultural genocide). But also beyond that, there was enough cultural interchange between Portugal and the colonies that I can imagine a section of the populace had genuine affection for Angolan music, even if that didn't extend to acknowledging the humanity of its artists, let alone their right to self determination.
Anyway I had always thought of Duo Ouro Negro as "music of the regime", but the book I'm reading paints a more complicated picture, where the duo, having toured extensively throughout the world, became gradually more Afrocentric in their outlook, leading to the amazingly titled album I posted up there. After the revolution they also sang explicit pro independence songs, though whether that was sincere or just an attempt to keep up with times I wouldn't know, need to research them more.
Anyway this album rules.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 7 March 2025 12:00 (two months ago)
loving this one
― nxd, Friday, 7 March 2025 14:42 (two months ago)
Happy 25th of April! To celebrate, two songs by Sérgio Godinho, the youngest of the big three protest singers from the revolution era, one written before the revolution, one after. Here's "Que Força É Essa?".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CW-435ahx2w
I saw you work the whole day throughBuilding cities for othersCarrying rocks and wastingA lot of effort for very little moneyI saw you work the whole day throughA lot of effort for very little money
What strength is thisWhat strength is thisThat you carry in your armsThat only helps you to obeyThat only tells you to obeyWhat strength is this, my friendWhat strength is this, my friendThat leaves you in harmony with othersBut at odds with yourselfWhat strength is this, my friend
Don't tell me you don't understand meWhen the days grow sourDon't tell me you haven't feltA strength rising in your fingersAnd an anger growing in your teethDon't tell me you don't understand me
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 25 April 2025 09:27 (one week ago)
And here's "Cuidado Com As Imitações", already written for a very different political context. It plays in my head every time Starmer shows up on tv.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gs0TalacXyI
Dear listener, since I have you with meI ask only for two minutes of your timeI want to tell you a story of my friendCasimiro Baltazar da Conceição
You might not know CasimiroHis village doesn't even show up on the mapBut strange as it may sound back homeHe was more famous than the Pope in the Vatican
Casimiro was a kind of sightseerHe had an eye in the middle of his foreheadThat's in addition to the other two, of courseSo say he was taking a nap
He'd keep the eye openSee things from nearWhich is a better way of thinkingHe'd see what was wrongAnd naturallyHe would always try not to get trickedSo he'd say to himself
Beware CasimiroBeware of imitationsBeware my peopleYou must precisely beware of imitations
There was a guy in charge of the villageEveryone would cue upVote for him, and if they did He'd give them a codfish, a sponge cake or a sausage
And he promised he'd build a hospitalA school and social housingPlus a chapel the size of a cathedralAt least the way he told it
But Casimiro had a sharp earHis ears had radar installedHe'd hear the guy talking all seriousBut inside the guy's butt was pounding along
He'd perk up his earsSee things from nearWhich is a better way of thinkingHe'd see what was wrongAnd naturallyHe would always try not to get trickedSo he'd say to himself
Well the guy who ran the villageCasimiro frustrated him like hellBecause of him, every time the guy smiled at the crowdHis vampire fangs would show
So to buy off CasimiroInstead of insulting him, boycotting him or threatening himHe told him: you know, deep down I admire youI'll build a statue of you in the square
But Casimiro wasn't born yesterdayAnd had a nose like an elephant'sHe smelled the manure right awayBeing honest doesn't just mean talking pretty
The moral of this taleI'll quickly summarizeEveryone does what they think is bestYou don't need to beCasimiro to alwaysBe careful not to get taken in
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 25 April 2025 09:45 (one week ago)
Argh autcorrect - I meant to write he was "a sort of seer", period.
Meanwhile, in the youtube comments:
@D53-v9n4 years agoI heard this song when I was in Porto last octobre. I asked the musician what te name of the song is, because I liked it so much. Since then I listen to this song sometimes.
Now you too can listen to this song sometimes!
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 25 April 2025 09:47 (one week ago)
Since then I listen to this song sometimes.
Oh that is beautiful. And got a real-life lol.
Both those sets of lyrics are magnificent, due in no small part, I expect, to the sensitivity and care of the translator.
I'm at work and don't have earphones for the phone with me or I'd be playing these already. I will not offend such songs by playing them through a phone speaker.
― TheNuNuNu, Friday, 25 April 2025 10:55 (one week ago)
^ Two really good songs. "Que Força É Essa?" could be -- musically -- a Polish song of the same era with just some minor adjustments, but "Cuidado Com As Imitações", with those horns? Never.
― TheNuNuNu, Sunday, 27 April 2025 08:48 (one week ago)
Yes, I would say the latter probably has a Brel influence - though there's also similar horns to be found in Brazilian music of the time.
― a ZX spectrum is haunting Europe (Daniel_Rf), Monday, 28 April 2025 09:26 (one week ago)