Nancy & Lee POLL

i mean i do kind of know what will win already but more interested in chat about all these fine tunes

Has to be...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=670YMraVnyk

... just wanted to post that video tbh.

Can't sleep on this one though...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nbtKHrI-OAs

i mean i do kind of know what will win already

Because of novices like me..."Some Velvet Morning."

hadn't actually seen that first video before. amazing! now i want to see it in a movie theatre, over and over again....

Some Velvet Morning - primal scream ft kate moss vs Summer Wine - The Corrs ft Bono

Something I don't know: was the writing of "Some Velvet Morning" indeed inspired by the Velvet Underground? I've always assumed so.

It's "Jackson" tbh

(xp) Seems highly unlikely!

This album is soooo backloaded.

I might go with "Sand"!

btw thank you! I haven't listened to this in over ten years and it is a rush of pure fucking joy to go back. To be real it's almost certainly going to be svm but I am going to have a good time making sure

hadn't actually seen that first video before. amazing! now i want to see it in a movie theatre, over and over again....

It is awesome. What did people look at before Queen invented the music video with "Bohemian Rhapsody" though?

"Greenwich Village Folk Song Salesman" has some quality adlibbing.

It was recorded in late '67, and the first VU album came out in March '67. Seems like just the sort of song you'd write under the spell of hearing that, and then there's the title.

many xps already
shit it's such a great Jackson, my favourite Jackson

I’ll mostly be curious what the vote disparity will be between what I would think are the obvious #1 and #2.

I really need somebody to come out on the lash with me tomorrow and karaoke this whole album

re SVM:

The recording was produced by Hazlewood and arranged by Billy Strange. According to one review, overdubbing was not used. Instead, the duo "recorded the entire song live with the band, the full orchestra and Lee Hazlewood and Nancy Sinatra singing all at the same time."

always assumed it was tape splicing ngl

I really need somebody to come out on the lash with me tomorrow and karaoke this whole album

i am so there!

I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s something to that Velvet Underground theory, because “Sand” sounds like the VU also.

nv come to London, almost-birthday ILB fap followed by Lee & Nancy karaoke

Nancy & Lee might have both been invited to/attended the LA Exploding Plastic Inevitable residency.

Sadly not gonna get next week off work

I saw “Movin’ with Nancy” in a theater 20+ years ago in LA it was really cool to see it that way

The VU did their notorious Exploding Plastic Inevitable three-day residency at The Trip on the Sunset Strip in May 3-5, 1966. Cher attended it and famously badmouthed the VU. But I think Nancy & Lee were in Europe at the time because they went to London to record the Nancy in London album in late April (?) and afterwards Nancy went on to the Continent (Paris, Hamburg) and did a TV appearance in Rome on May 7. Had Lee returned to LA separately before then? I guess it's possible. The VU also did a show at UCLA on May 19 so that could've been one that Lee caught.

I was thinking that just hearing the album would be enough to inspire "Some Velvet Morning", but if Hazlewood did manage to see them, even more so.

If there is this inspiration I think Lee hearing the album in ‘67 is the simplest explanation. Because he and Nancy did make the Sugar album at some point in the second half of ‘66 which doesn’t betray any VU influence, except for the song “Sugar Town” being about taking drugs.

The Gavin Report would have had an issue with "Heroin Town"

Lee hearing the album in ‘67 is the simplest explanation

Most likely connection is Lee overhearing Nancy's dad blasting "European Son" on the hi-fi to impress his young wife

Opening this record with their quaalude-and-bourbon cover of “You’ve Lost That Lovin’ Feeling” is such a perfect way to enter this world.

Picking the best song in this is a breeze. Picking my favorite is incredibly hard.

i'd say this whole album was marinated in quaaludes and bourbon

SAND

Yeah Sand

That said, of course “some velvet morning” is one of the most genius and creepy pop songs ever made. It defies categorization.

idk if ILX ever gets around to a Hazlewood pool but "Sundown, Sundown" is an easy top 10 for me.

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Einsteurzende Neubauten's cover of "Sand" was a big influence on post-goth My Bloody Valentine, voting to honor that song's inadvertent legacy.

are these really all the duets they did?

but thee may take me by the hand

xp
no there's a couple more albums - Nancy and Lee Again (72), Nancy and Lee 3 (2004). imo they don't quite get the magic of this one but there's good stuff (that said I'm listening to their Down from Dover again and I still do not think this works at all)

ah ty, it's the '72 one I was remembering

my controversial opinion is that "Sugartown" is better than any of these

Einsteurzende Neubauten's cover of "Sand" was also a big influence on me as was Rowland S Howard & Lydia Lunch's cover of "Some Velvet Morning".

Went Sand. "Jackson" also a strong contender.

They did a duet of "Oh, Lonesome Me" for Nancy's Country, My Way album (which was also the original home for their version of "Jackson").

Really struggled with this but went with "Sand" at the end. My kids have adored this album since basically birth (one wrote Nancy a fan letter and she responded! He used to wear a bootleg shirt we made of the cover!) so I have emotional attachments to a bunch of these. For lovers of the ad-libbing on "Greenwich Village", do check out "Love is Strange" on the new reissue.

Sundown

Nancy responding to a fan letter sent by kids warms my heart.

I got "Nancy&Lee" mono and stereo in fairly quick succession back at a formative point for my kids, and I'd often play it in the summer while Amber and Alice played in the garden.

I do remember "Some Velvet Morning" being on the TV a lot back when it came out. Nancy's TV show(s) and Bobbie Gentry's were one of the best things on around that time.

Some Velvet Morning doesn't need any help (and neither does Sand by the looks of it) so going with Summer Wine

Is anyone actually going to vote for Some Velvet Morning?

I did. I like Sand a lot but SVM rules.

Did the hipster validation of this album begin with the Neubaten/Birthday Party/Lydia circle, or has it always had a cult following? I recall it getting pulled out of the stacks at my college radio station circa 1988, but I assume that was in response to the covers.

The cult following predates Neubauten etc.

It started with validatin' hipsters Vanilla Fudge recording "Some Velvet Morning" on Near the Beginning in 1969.

i've long dug this cover of sand as well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoOdXJVR7yQ

this was my intro to SVM:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kuc-U8bvSEk

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

Solid results. Went Summer Wine in the end but kind of wishing I'd given one to Lady Bird

SVM was in heavy rotation on Art Bell's bumper music for years. Art eventually had Lee on the show.

This was my intro...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6z-XlkyYk8

Did the hipster validation of this album begin with the Neubaten/Birthday Party/Lydia circle

I'd completely forgotten until this post but the Lydia Lunch & Rowland S. Howard cover was the first time I heard Some Velvet Morning, I bought this comp when it came out https://www.discogs.com/master/67129-Lydia-Lunch-Widowspeak-The-Original-Soundtrack

I stole this album from these people i was babysitting for. I kind of borrowed it and then moved away. Its SVM i stole it for mainly.

I worry now that ... oh fuck ... they were middle aged folks with kids - what if this was their favourite record?

And what if they secretly blamed their kids for the album's disappearance, the resultant breach of trust creating a wedge that only widened in the ensuing years until the inevitable estrangement?

But you can heal this rift! Bring the record back, and bring this family back. You, on their doorstep, Christmas Eve, record in hand, hugs and hallelujahs.

my intro to this was a p4k(?) review that of Broadcast compilation that compared "Poem of Dead Song" to SVM. and i'll gladly listen to anything Broadcast borrows from.

I was thinking I learned svm from thin white rope but no I must have learned it from the original because I remember with the twr version being like hey where’s Phaedra’s lines??

(The dual lead guitars take the part of Phaedra in the thin white rope one but man it would have been awesome to have guy kyser sing those lines)