Fleetwood Mac's Mirage (Side A)

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Open for a week so that we can all play Mirage twenty times between now and then. I'm on a Buckingham/Mac bender.

I was reading through the Tusk polls, which I love got divided by side. The love for Nicks is strong on ILM, so Gypsy will surely come in #1. But then, the interesting question is -- what'll be second? Having read the Mirage thread too, I'd guess Book of Love.

Poll Results

OptionVotes
Gypsy 17
Book of Love 3
Only Over You 3
Love in Store 2
That's Alright 2
Can't Go Back 1


TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 12 December 2024 00:00 (one week ago) link

That's Alright

Paul Ponzi, Thursday, 12 December 2024 01:27 (one week ago) link

I always forget about this album.

cryptosicko, Thursday, 12 December 2024 01:37 (one week ago) link

“You shee yo gypshay”

calstars, Thursday, 12 December 2024 01:47 (one week ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dN0czUMRMU8

calstars, Thursday, 12 December 2024 02:18 (one week ago) link

Oh NEAT. So that's vaporwave, huh?

And it was invented by someone really into a McVie deep cut?

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 12 December 2024 02:27 (one week ago) link

And also big on Episode 18 of Cowboy Bebop.

This is promising.

TheNuNuNu, Thursday, 12 December 2024 02:31 (one week ago) link

book. of. love

ivy., Thursday, 12 December 2024 03:00 (one week ago) link

i mean it’s gypsy, but still

ivy., Thursday, 12 December 2024 03:00 (one week ago) link

This album is SO precisely played.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 December 2024 03:44 (one week ago) link

Gypsy is just so much better than almost anything else

Bee OK, Thursday, 12 December 2024 05:10 (one week ago) link

kinda hard to say there’s anything better than “book of love” or “gypsy” but i’m giving my vote to “love in store” ... just love the texture of the guitars playing off mcvie’s vocals & the use of backing vocals. every time i press play on this album and “love in store” starts i think “this was a good decision”

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 12 December 2024 06:47 (one week ago) link

Yep. It's like starting Tusk with "Over and Over" -- you ease into The Biggest Band in the World's album.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 December 2024 10:23 (one week ago) link

Voted for "Book of Love" over "Gypsy" and "That's Alright." A shame Nicks couldn't hit those notes again.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 December 2024 10:24 (one week ago) link

alternate That's Alright is gorgeous
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ngO6-a6NAIc

corrs unplugged, Thursday, 12 December 2024 12:52 (one week ago) link

“Book Of Love” for its weird 50s-isms that completely work. For me it teeters between annoying and sublime and I love it.

completely suited to the horny decadence (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 12 December 2024 14:36 (one week ago) link

the repetition in 'only over you' creates this gently lifting and expanding quality that becomes something magical over the course of the song, by the end you're floating, it's amazing. i like daniel lopatin generally, and i'm ok with some vaporwave, but i find it interesting that he presumably heard this incredible sort of hallucinatory quality that drew him to this song and then totally failed to capture or enhance it in any way with his edit

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 12 December 2024 15:17 (one week ago) link

wait what

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 December 2024 15:20 (one week ago) link

refering to 'angel,' linked above

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Thursday, 12 December 2024 15:24 (one week ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fRa1roeb9S4

J. Sam, Thursday, 12 December 2024 16:45 (one week ago) link

"Gypsy", if you'd asked for votes for second-best it would be "That's Alright".
Buckingham's songs here were a real disappointment after having listened to Tusk for decades beforehand. Obviously I wasn't expecting cardboard box drumming and marching bands, but hoped for something of this flavour:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd7L4xd6caI

Very strange that there seems to be little synth on this record compared to the digital deluge on Tango in the Night.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 12 December 2024 17:27 (one week ago) link

You addressed your own point. Warhorse bands in 1982, the last year of the '70s, weren't yet fully embracing synths into a bit later.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 December 2024 17:38 (one week ago) link

It's a bit like the leap from Wild Things Run Fast to Dog Eat Dog, but that was three years instead of five.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 12 December 2024 17:55 (one week ago) link

exactly!

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 12 December 2024 17:56 (one week ago) link

I'm browsing through old 80s copies of Musician magazine online and just reading the amount of tech turnover expected for an au courant album is exhausting.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 12 December 2024 17:58 (one week ago) link

Bucky didn't sign for his Fairlight until Go Insane.

Okay, heteros are cutting edge this year, too. (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 12 December 2024 18:42 (one week ago) link

Hard not to vote for Gypsy here.

Can we poll tango side 2 next?

brimstead, Thursday, 12 December 2024 19:11 (one week ago) link

Even if the correct answer is “Gypsy”, I feel like the gonzo intensity of “Book of Love” transformed me as a person.

It’s like Buckingham was thinking “yes, I’ve done “Secondhand News” and I’ve done “Not That Funny”, but I’ve never done both at the same time”

Tim F, Thursday, 12 December 2024 21:47 (one week ago) link

Can we poll tango side 2 next?

No, next poll is "Best Side 1 Track 4 written by Bob Welch"

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 12 December 2024 21:52 (one week ago) link

This is a wonderful LP side for last-minute guitar solos.

TheNuNuNu, Friday, 13 December 2024 00:49 (one week ago) link

yeah, that "Book of Love" solo

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 December 2024 01:00 (one week ago) link

Not side one, but few moments in music affect me as deeply as when the guitar solo bursts through the surface of the arrangement in the final stretch of "Eyes of the World"

(I've always wondered whether Disco Inferno were thinking about it when they made "The Last Dance")

Tim F, Friday, 13 December 2024 01:11 (one week ago) link

Bucky's solo on Gypsy is soooo tight. I think he said that's one of the solos that took the most amount of concentration live. Iirc this album also set in motion the pattern of the band pleading with Lindsay to come back into the fold and put his solo career on hold.

This was just barely pre Fairlight, but I wonder to what extent the loops and whatnot were created manually, with meticulous tape splices and edits. This is definitely a kind of fussy, or at least fussed over, record.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 December 2024 02:32 (one week ago) link

I don't think it's Fleetwood drumming on "Eyes of the World" imo

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 13 December 2024 02:33 (one week ago) link

I think there's a lot of looped Mick on this. he was getting pretty loopy at this point, too.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 13 December 2024 02:43 (one week ago) link

I've always thought it was Richard Dashut and Lindsey doing the tape loops. There is a lot of looped stuff and tape manipulation on Law and Order which i think was being recorded at around this time.

bbq, Friday, 13 December 2024 05:55 (one week ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Wednesday, 18 December 2024 00:01 (four days ago) link

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Thursday, 19 December 2024 00:01 (three days ago) link

I could never really make out a lot of those lyrics… does she really sing “so I’m back to the velvet underground”?

brimstead, Thursday, 19 December 2024 15:02 (three days ago) link

It was the name of a clothing store she frequented.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 19 December 2024 15:05 (three days ago) link

The Velvet Underground was a hippy clothing shop at 471 Broadway St in North Beach neighborhood of SF, owned and curated by Lesley Kamstra who did set and clothing design for the Gypsy Rose Lee morning TV show broadcast on local TV (KGO) in the late 60s.

Mrs. Ippei (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 19 December 2024 19:15 (three days ago) link

Ahh okay

brimstead, Thursday, 19 December 2024 20:17 (three days ago) link


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