sade - stronger than pride [poll]

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Poll Results

OptionVotes
love is stronger than pride 6
turn my back on you 5
paradise 4
nothing can come between us 2
i never thought i'd see the day 1
give it up 1
keep looking 1
siempre hay esperanza 1
clean heart 0
haunt me 0


slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 4 February 2025 18:07 (ten months ago)

Write-in vote for “all of them”

my favorite herbs are fennel and Drake (DJP), Tuesday, 4 February 2025 18:10 (ten months ago)

I'm not voting for "Paradise," but "Give It Up," "Siempre...," or "Turn My Back on You" are calling.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 February 2025 18:17 (ten months ago)

my husband quotes "keep looking" all the time to me. this is "his" sade album more than mine. sade is a common love for us and one of several early "things" that came up where it was like, this relationship is going to work.

"haunt me" and "give it up" are very difficult to pass over but it has to be "love is stronger than pride" for me.

spoonman (steve aoki remix) (map), Tuesday, 4 February 2025 18:18 (ten months ago)

"i never thought i'd see the day" is still kind of an enigma for me... not sure what that one's about but it's powerful nonetheless.

spoonman (steve aoki remix) (map), Tuesday, 4 February 2025 18:20 (ten months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAQct-ItZoU

omar little, Tuesday, 4 February 2025 18:36 (ten months ago)

oh god "paradise" is the ultimate car windows down warm weather jam

spoonman (steve aoki remix) (map), Tuesday, 4 February 2025 18:39 (ten months ago)

make you feel cool as hell no matter what car you're driving

spoonman (steve aoki remix) (map), Tuesday, 4 February 2025 18:41 (ten months ago)

I'm youuurs

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 February 2025 19:03 (ten months ago)

wrong to say that this is the alhbum where the sade rhythm section just really shows off? this feels like *the* stuart matthewman album to me

i think i'm voting for "nothing can come between us" ... i could listen to that groove for an infinite amount of time. i love how the propulsion of the song really mirrors its emotional state, but you still have this radiant layer of lushness enveloping everything. it feels like the most luxurious armor

but "haunt me" might just be the best song ever so idk

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 4 February 2025 19:25 (ten months ago)

yeah this album is one of their grooviest for sure.

spoonman (steve aoki remix) (map), Tuesday, 4 February 2025 19:27 (ten months ago)

I'd argue the grooves are stronger than pride -- er, the songs. Not a criticism, but it's the one album of their classic run where I have to glance at the tracklist and sometimes forget how the tunes go.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 February 2025 19:33 (ten months ago)

the stopped crashes and congas on "give it up," that's the groove i could listen to forever on this one. insane bassline. and what is the metallic clinking sound throughout, someone dropping change into a cowbell or something? it's a brilliant touch. and sade herself with those lyrics, peak goddess. song seems slight on first exposure but it's just divine imo.

xp yeah alf i agree somewhat, some of the grooves stretch out but on the other hand i can't name a weak song here.

spoonman (steve aoki remix) (map), Tuesday, 4 February 2025 19:36 (ten months ago)

I worked in a mall record store during high school when this came out, and we could only play a handful of manager-approved CDs. The best ones were this, INXS's Kick, and oldies-heavy More Dirty Dancing.

braunschweiger winter (Eazy), Tuesday, 4 February 2025 19:38 (ten months ago)

I'd vote for the 12" of Paradise if it was here (it possibly was on the CD and cassette).

piscesx, Tuesday, 4 February 2025 19:41 (ten months ago)

ha, yeah, I associate More Dirty Dancing and Stronger Than Pride with the early summer of '88. I saw videos for the singles on VH-1 and MTV constantly on my family's annual late June trip to Sanibel.

the talented mr pimply (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 4 February 2025 19:42 (ten months ago)

"Give It Up" was a personal revelation when I listened to Charlie Bones' Do!!You!!! Breakfast Show on NTS pre-COVID and he would often cane it in his radio show sets, so that's become my sentimental fave.

call mr.gee that my name that name again but through a TASCAM pre-amp (Craig D.), Tuesday, 4 February 2025 21:01 (ten months ago)

foundation album; impossible.

here's the mad professor remix of the title track, which was a b-side from their following album, and which i have definitely posted before. it's p good:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fcDUYWeFppM

i mean... look: blind pick any song from side one of the album and it's among their best. def agree re:stuart's increased faux arranger role. can hear the roots of some of his later inputs to maxwell. the swooniest of sighs. i don't think of things like 'desert island discs' but i have kept an old ipod this whole time with what i consider foundation music loaded on it. the complete catalogues of people like david axelrod, curtis mayfield, selected cannonball adderley+miles+bill evans, outkast, and of course sade.

so i mean... i may end up voting for the title track just... idk, because it's the first song so i've probably heard it the most? there's simply no discrepancies with any of this music and i would be grateful to hear any of these songs on infinite repeat until i die.

anyway.

also i'm tempted to post the hiphop song that samples the title track, but it's memorable for the wrong reasons, not appropriate whatsoever, and very disrespectful to this music.

cru - "everloving" (1997); chorus is literally 'my bitch my everloving bitch' over the stronger than pride bassline. oof. nice sample flip tho!

MUFFY TEPPERMAN WAS THE OG KAREN (Austin), Tuesday, 4 February 2025 21:03 (ten months ago)

'nothing can come between us'

pretty easily for me. jordan is right.

about halfway through when they come through with the "its about faith, it's about trust, yeaah yeaaaaaaaah" harmonies with the little bass riff man thats a perfect moment in music right there.

lil $CHUB (Spottie), Tuesday, 4 February 2025 23:55 (ten months ago)

This is so difficult.

Paradise is absolutely perfect, the bassline so fire, heard it a million times and would listen a million more.

I Never Thought I'd See The Day - I love these deeper ballads of hers.

I wouldn't be able to say anything bad about any of the other cchoices though.

It's not the best track on here but I do have a soft spot for Clean Heart, it should be cheesy like one of those poor little Johnny got a gun type songs but her vocal performance is so pure and beautiful it still manages to land imo.

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 08:06 (nine months ago)

lg you may have heard this? tim f posted it years ago - maybe you'd like it

i never thought i'd see the day (kiko navarro remix)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ohxu-vqC48U

spoonman (steve aoki remix) (map), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 13:37 (nine months ago)

there's an 11 minute kenny larkin remix of "give it up" too

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxfnBhwc9xg

spoonman (steve aoki remix) (map), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 13:44 (nine months ago)

Love Is Stronger Than Pride because it breaks your heart in the sweetest way possible

Sitting here waiting for you
Would be like waiting for winter
It's gonna be cold, there may even be snow

there is so much packed in few words, and it's like it's shared almost reluctantly. love it so much <3

scanner darkly, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 19:09 (nine months ago)

for me it's the feeling of getting over a break-up and becoming best friends with your ex in song form

spoonman (steve aoki remix) (map), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 19:44 (nine months ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1W4Jn9nlUU

nice longer edit of paradise also

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 19:50 (nine months ago)

This (from Test Pressing's Paul Byrne) is one of my all time favourite edits

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1W4Jn9nlUU

groovypanda, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 19:52 (nine months ago)

lol, snap!

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 5 February 2025 19:55 (nine months ago)

it's the one album of their classic run where I have to glance at the tracklist and sometimes forget how the tunes go.

Agree. Had to call it up on Tidal and listen to remember it, and there's nothing bad on it but the songs do all kind of blend together, except for "Paradise" and "Nothing Can Come Between Us," which are battling for my vote. (The one exception to the sameness is a negative one. I don't really like "Love Is Stronger Than Pride"; it feels much more constructed, like an Art Of Noise track, than the rest of the album, which is clearly music played by humans.)

Instead of create and send out, it pull back and consume (unperson), Wednesday, 5 February 2025 20:26 (nine months ago)

two weeks pass...

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

System, Tuesday, 25 February 2025 00:01 (nine months ago)

i'm excited for these results lol

glum mum (map), Tuesday, 25 February 2025 14:52 (nine months ago)

map i wanna shoutout your husband for having this as his sade album

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 25 February 2025 16:34 (nine months ago)

haha i'll let him know :)

glum mum (map), Tuesday, 25 February 2025 16:35 (nine months ago)

i do sometimes gravitate towards vibey type music but i've still been struggling w/ the notion that the songs here don't stick w/ people, especially in the second half. the interplay between her vocals and the woodwinds when she sings "finger on the trigger on the years to come" on "clean heart" is one of my fav parts of the album and "give it up" is a flat out incredible song imo, the way it feels meditative and propulsive at the same time

the first 4 songs are so strong that i do understand the notion that its a top heavy album but there's some gems in the second half

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, 25 February 2025 16:42 (nine months ago)

i still don't know what to vote for lol.

anyway this is a loose fit, but of interest to appreciators of this album: here's a then-current cover of "paradise" by karen smith in showcase dub-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-Xwm85qRlg

"The Well-Tempered Holophonor by Philip J. Fry" (Austin), Tuesday, 25 February 2025 17:47 (nine months ago)

I never realised that this was a Sade song! I won't pretend that it's as good as the original, but it's an interesting take on it anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SOe6xJVFIXs

Inside The Wasp Factory with Gregg Wallace (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 25 February 2025 18:14 (nine months ago)

i always like hearing mayer do his thing. probably fresher than a lot of other sade remixes tbh.

glum mum (map), Tuesday, 25 February 2025 18:59 (nine months ago)

bassline on ‘turn my back on you’ is one of the greatest of all time

flopson, Tuesday, 25 February 2025 23:46 (nine months ago)

Automatic thread bump. This poll's results are now in.

System, Wednesday, 26 February 2025 00:01 (nine months ago)

ah fuck missed this, would’ve gone for “nothing can come between us”

gestures broadly at...everything (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 26 February 2025 00:01 (nine months ago)

map i wanna shoutout your husband for having this as his sade album

― slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Tuesday, February 25, 2025 4:34 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

he says "shout out back" lol

glum mum (map), Wednesday, 26 February 2025 02:14 (nine months ago)

I know it’s kind of interlude-y but I think “give it up” is the most underrated by vote totals here … amazing song

ok (D-40), Wednesday, 26 February 2025 02:59 (nine months ago)

I’m sad that “Haunt Me” didn’t get any votes. The way it sits there like a coiled dark thing nestled between its surrounding tracks really captures the effortless range the group had, and maybe a newfound enhanced awareness of it (though maybe this is an optical illusion - it’s not like the preceding albums feel like they lack this).

Tim F, Wednesday, 26 February 2025 14:20 (nine months ago)

Weird winner. Not even in the top five for me.

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 26 February 2025 19:42 (nine months ago)

Also glad Jordan mentioned Clean Heart, it's cheesy for sure and oh Johnny don't get shot trying to be a big man etc is a well worn cliche but it gets me every time because the music and her voice are so amazing.

LocalGarda, Wednesday, 26 February 2025 19:43 (nine months ago)

I’m sad that “Haunt Me” didn’t get any votes.

yeah me too.

nice to see the love for "give it up".

glum mum (map), Wednesday, 26 February 2025 21:19 (nine months ago)


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