request for discussion : SQUAREPUSHER

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i continue to embarassingly mention him when answering questions about favorite songs. doesn't anyone else like the poor guy? i mean, he seems more convincing than rdj right now, contrived personality or not. take it from there you anti-hype robots.

― ethan, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

i've never really actually liked squarepusher that much. i think he's done interesting things and i like the style he works in but others (rdj, bogdan raczynski, early u-ziq) seem to do things better. i think his earlier drum'n'bass related stuff is ok, but doesn't hold the attention for long enough. feed me weird things and hard normal daddy fit this category, although parts of big loada are much better (particularly the first track which is the best things he's done) the more recent fusion related stuff is really really tedious, although iambic 5 poetry is very very good and shows what a shame it is that he couldn't match that on the rest of that periods stuff.

i haven't heard the new single yet, but apparently its uk garage influenced. i saw a review in the guardian that suggested that 'leftfield producers have been quick to appropriate uk garage'. what!!!???! they've been very slow on the ball with that i think (with possible exception of four tet). after all, uk garage was the sound of y2k in uk, and i think 'leftfield producers' struggled to find an answer all through last year. i'll be interested to hear what sqrpshr has done with the new single though...
― gareth, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

with correct formatting. sorry!

i've never really actually liked squarepusher that much. i think he's done interesting things and i like the style he works in but others (rdj, bogdan raczynski, early u-ziq) seem to do things better.

i think his earlier drum'n'bass related stuff is ok, but doesn't hold the attention for long enough. feed me weird things and hard normal daddy fit this category, although parts of big loada are much better (particularly the first track which is the best things he's done)

the more recent fusion related stuff is really really tedious, although iambic 5 poetry is very very good and shows what a shame it is that he couldn't match that on the rest of that periods stuff.

i haven't heard the new single yet, but apparently its uk garage influenced. i saw a review in the guardian that suggested that 'leftfield producers have been quick to appropriate uk garage'. what!!!???! they've been very slow on the ball with that i think (with possible exception of four tet). after all, uk garage was the sound of y2k in uk, and i think 'leftfield producers' struggled to find an answer all through last year. i'll be interested to hear what sqrpshr has done with the new single though...
― gareth, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

arrgh!
― gareth, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

There you go.
― Melissa W, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Whoa, let's try this again.
― Melissa W, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

How did you mess up this HTML so badly?
― Melissa W, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

One last try. Sorry for the multitude of posts.

― Melissa W, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Mmm, Squarepusher. Difficult one innit? He can be blinding at times, 'Come on selector' comes to mind, the hard parts of 'Feed me weird things'. And in the interviews I've seen with him, he always seems to be a nice guy. It's more what he has put in motion that irritates: drill 'n bass, IDM, clever chin-stroking dance music you can't dance to, nerd music.

― Omar, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I like that "leaders vs. followers" comment he made re drum'n'bass, even if 'Music is Rotted One Note" is the most boring album in the world, sounds like a copy of Weather Report's '8.30' left out in the sun for too long.

― tarden, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That new single of his is more a take on speed-garage than on 2-step, which hardly qualifies it as a quick appropriation of UK garage. It is, however, one of the best things he's done in ages. I liked Squarepusher in the beginning (1997, when I first became aware of his stuff). The laterrecords are really tedious. Can someone ID a particularly fantastic Squarepusher remix on the Ninja Tune label, circa 1997/8?

― JoB, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Squarepusher, I can't stand his purient tone. The joke wore out a couple of tracks into 'Feed me weird things', and despite the first two minutes of My Red Hot Car he doesn't pull any new moves on the new album. I saw him perform an atrocious set supporting Tortoise. Dissappointed enough he didn't play bass, or his latest single, but instead we were given a playback session, chosing the 'here's-one-I- made-earlier' option of playing a DAT and messing with the desk, whereas Tortoise contrive their convoluted sound, live onstage. Can't say I was too bothered about either, but in light of how they performed, I thought he was very dismissive.

Also I must object to the assertion that IDM is music you can't dance to, or as I read elsewhere on the boards, for people afraid to dance. Conversely you could say that house and techno are music for people afraid to stop and listen. Or maybe I'm completely wrong and all this time I haven't been dancing properly ;)

― K-reg, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Not to get in anyone's face, but "Request for Discussion" is a bit of a bowser of a threadtitle, juicewise.

Anyway, my tabloid-style alternative? BID FOR BLAB: Uriah Heep

― mark s, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"purient" ? really? His reverb gets you off? I like squarepusher personally. Not a thrill a minute, but very nice, a sort of austere beauty.

― Mike Hanley, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

dances you can do to IDM -

(#1) the shag.

Uriah Heep were terrible, but it was an important, archetypal terribleness.

― duane zarakov, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm a total anomoly on this board in that I like about 95% of what he's put out. Many of my critical faculties fly out the window in a rush of, "Oooh, damn that's SHITHOT!" joy when I hear his records. "My Red Hot Car" is a great song and does rank up there with his best, but don't sleep on tracks like "A Journey To Reedham", "Tundra", "Theme From Ernest Borgnine", "Male Pill Part 13", and those first three tracks on _Burning'n Tree_.

― Dan Perry, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Uriah Heep were terrible, but it was an important, archetypal terribleness. ------

brilliant. :)

Now,

dances you can do to IDM - (#2) the spazz. (also know as the high-powered electric rod up bum dance)

― Omar, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Actually it was BID FOR BLAB I was proposing, not the Heep. That was a joke.

― mark s, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

"The Heep", I love that they existed just so's people can use the words "The Heep". Are you sure you don't wanna talk about (ahem) The Heep some more?

― duane zarakov, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Of course I do, but you have to start the thread.

― mark s, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

it was bad enough when everyone was talking about coldcut in my rakim thread.

― ethan, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

the squarepusher remix of Tried by 12 was fantastic, warp have put the new single up on there site (mp3) http://downloads.warprecords.com/mp3s/myredhotcar_girl.mp3 nice of a label to save us going on napster..

― jk, Tuesday, 29 May 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

im gonna fuck you with my red hot c-oooooooock

― chaki, Friday, 1 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

one year passes...

Squarepusher is COOOL.... listen to his "untitled-ep" (WAP 155) and you know what i mean he rocks and messes with sounds like no one.

― xxxxxxxxxxxxxx, Saturday, 27 July 2002 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)

one month passes...

squarepusher... absolutely brilliant. although i have the bulk of his out put and love what he does, i must admit that it is difficult listening nd i am a bit of a music freak. i read an interview with tjenkinson and he talks about how his girlfriend hates his music... this is a warning to all dudes that are trying to attract women or attempting to keep a relationship going...DON'T make your lady listen to this stuff. i haven't met one female who even remotely likes this stuff. they say: 'can't dance to it', 'no words', 'this music is sick', 'i want something to sing along with', 'this is antimusic', 'this make me feel really crazy and uncomfortable'.
i have run this by many, many, many ladies and none of them were feelin' this stuff. because i love this stuff, i've tried every possible thing i could to make it a pleasant experience. a perfect day could not delete the insanity locked away in these tracks. on a sunny day i played 'a song for our underwater torch' to my girlfriend of four years... she said the music made her want to drive over the guardrail of the freeway and burst into flames. nice, huh?

― kerrymelonson, Tuesday, 10 September 2002 13:13 (twenty-three years ago)

if it wasn't before, this is BEST THREAD EVAH now - it's got everything!

― zebedee, Tuesday, 10 September 2002 13:24 (twenty-three years ago)

HE STEALS BARBEQUEUES! Take that Tom Jenkinson!

― Sarah (starry), Wednesday, 11 September 2002 08:36 (twenty-three years ago)

two years pass...

Hahaha

i must admit that it is difficult listening nd i am a bit of a music freak...this is a warning to all dudes that are trying to attract women or attempting to keep a relationship going...DON'T make your lady listen to this stuff

Awesome.

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 11 March 2005 22:02 (twenty-one years ago)

Weirdly enough I have had a woman slip by me due to my lack of arcane Squarepusher knowledge. Not in any deep, sense, but there was this party, and she was cute, and she was talking about having seen Squarepusher the night before, and our original Squarepusher conversation seemed to really be scoring points and creating rapport and all that -- but then eventually it went on a little too long and I was forced to admit that I wasn’t exactly some hardcore Squarepusher devotee. Some other dude was, he took over the conversation from there.

Anyway so if you want to pick up this one super-cute kinda dead-looking girl in Evanston Illinois in like 2001, study up on your Squarepusher stat.

― nabisco (nabisco), Friday, 11 March 2005 22:12 (twenty-one years ago)

Good to know!

Btw I looked this up because I've been listening to Big Loada and I love about half of it unreservedly, and haven't heard any Squarepusher better than the Come on My Selector, Journey to Reedham, and Massif (well, maybe not Massif, since it's got the lovely lullaby melody but also the punchable "jazz" hits).

― Jordan (Jordan), Friday, 11 March 2005 22:16 (twenty-one years ago)

used to be really into squarepusher, but i sold most of it off. the keepers are big loada and feed me weird things. i'm also probably the only person that likes that chaos a.d. thing he put out (really lo-fi acid techno/hardcore, sounds like it could be his early demos but i'm not sure what the story is)

― eman (eman), Saturday, 12 March 2005 00:04 (twenty-one years ago)

heard "red hot car" for the first time in years the other day - still sounds pretty great.

― jermaine (jnoble), Saturday, 12 March 2005 00:07 (twenty-one years ago)

Nabisco's story reads like a plot element in an episode of some demented hipster update of Seinfeld.

― Alba (Alba), Saturday, 12 March 2005 00:17 (twenty-one years ago)

the 'kinda dead-looking' bit worries.

― jermaine (jnoble), Saturday, 12 March 2005 00:27 (twenty-one years ago)

Squarepusher has some amazing tracks, but he his albums always have some stuff that is absolute droning crap, especially on the last couple. I think his music was better when he was playing all of the bass over the top. The oddball fusionish tracks are the ones I liked the most.

― Earl Nash (earlnash), Saturday, 12 March 2005 00:32 (twenty-one years ago)

hard normal daddy is his nest album

― charleston charge (chaki), Saturday, 12 March 2005 00:36 (twenty-one years ago)

right and feed me weird things is his best album

― eman (eman), Saturday, 12 March 2005 00:39 (twenty-one years ago)

i like 'big loada' and 'go plastic' quite a bit. the 'budakan mindphone' EP is pretty good too, even if only for "iambic 5 poetry."

i find him hard to keep up with though. he's always coming out with something new before i'm ready for it.

― rajeev (rajeev), Saturday, 12 March 2005 06:54 (twenty-one years ago)

I'll toss up buringntree as my favorite, although I like most everything he's done. I have managed to use his stuff to win over meathead bass players that scoff at dance music as talentless drivel, which is a good thing...more bass players should listen to dance music. Especially the "didn't anyone ever loan you a metronome" types. (It should be noted that I say this as a bass player, so try not to wince at my bluntness.)

On a related note, I loved "Chaos A.D." when I owned it. Unfortunately, an ex-friend junkie that was staying at my house vanished with it last year, so I can't really comment on it accurately anymore. So if whoever wrote it about it above would be willing to send a copy of it to my gmail address (johnjusten@gmail.com - so original!) I would be eternally grateful, and would respond in kind with any CD's you desire that I might have in my collection. I promise I'm not an ASCAP cop, and Dan Perry can confirm this...

― John Justen (johnjusten), Saturday, 12 March 2005 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)

i guess you mean me john? i'll give it a shot when i get a chance but i'm on yahoo so the message limit on what i can send kinda sucks.

― eman (eman), Sunday, 13 March 2005 01:08 (twenty-one years ago)

You, sir or madam, are a king or queen among men or women.

Can't stand to gender inappropriately, after all. By the by, if you want a gmail account to facilitate the sending and receiving of inappropriately large files, I'd be glad to send you one of them evite thingies...Thanks again.

― John Justen (johnjusten), Sunday, 13 March 2005 02:59 (twenty-one years ago)

i'll take you up on the gmail invite, seeing as i'm way overdue on that. i'll be emailing shortly.

― eman (eman), Sunday, 13 March 2005 06:52 (twenty-one years ago)

five months pass...

squarepusher was tits at glastonbury
he was base wanking like a crazy man

― Domi, Wednesday, 24 August 2005 19:58 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...

Hi, can we talk about his post Music Is Rotted One Note stuff? Only because I recently dug out the Maximum Priest and Budakhan Mindphone as well and while neither works as a good release, the first tracks on both of them are spellbinding. The cosmopolitan glockenspiel of Iambic 5 Poetry has always affected me but the more stately-yet-understated counter part "Song: Ourunderwatertorch" just sends tingles up my spine.

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Thursday, 24 August 2006 12:31 (nineteen years ago)

odd to read andre 300 namechecking him the other day.

― rtccc (mwah), Thursday, 24 August 2006 12:53 (nineteen years ago)

nah he was doing that when The Love Below came out too.

― Konal Doddz (blueski), Thursday, 24 August 2006 12:56 (nineteen years ago)

"Song: Ourunderwatertorch" is totally awesome, agreed

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 24 August 2006 12:59 (nineteen years ago)

Go Plastic is great.

― chap who would dare to start Raaatpackin (chap), Thursday, 24 August 2006 13:02 (nineteen years ago)

Song: Ourunderwatertorch - I wish I knew more about jazz and then I'd be able to check out more of what Squarepusher is referencing. I can imagine he might have been listening to Jean-Christian Michel's Requiem when he wrote this. In fact I wish SP would mellow out a little more, because Iambic 5 Poetry, S:OWT, My Sound and the beginning of one of his tracks that was used in Lost In Translation are all gorgeous. I've heard the Drill'n'Bass thing WAY too much and it's over 10 years old now. It's been done to death 100 times and I blame it for the death of IDM.

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Thursday, 24 August 2006 13:07 (nineteen years ago)

Plus it just seems impossible for the guy to release an album that doesn't consist of 1 or two earth-shatteringly great tracks, two tracks that are interesting but you wouldn't want to listen to for fun, and 8 tracks that just suck a lot.

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Thursday, 24 August 2006 13:08 (nineteen years ago)

Dunno if 'blame' would be the word I'd use, but hey

― DJ Mencap (DJ Mencap), Thursday, 24 August 2006 13:09 (nineteen years ago)

"attribute" then I dunno. It just seemed like an interesting idea for one or two releases (up until Come To Daddy) but what started as an interesting one-off turned into a genre in itself.

― wogan lenin (dog latin), Thursday, 24 August 2006 13:12 (nineteen years ago)

new record seems very scaled back to me

― Dominique (dleone), Thursday, 24 August 2006 13:44 (nineteen years ago)

squarepusher rules

― chaki (chaki), Thursday, 24 August 2006 16:16 (nineteen years ago)

"Plus it just seems impossible for the guy to release an album that doesn't consist of 1 or two earth-shatteringly great tracks, two tracks that are interesting but you wouldn't want to listen to for fun, and 8 tracks that just suck a lot."

OTM.

― J-rock (Julien Sandiford), Friday, 25 August 2006 02:52 (nineteen years ago)

two months pass...

So what do we think of the new album? I've only heard a few tracks but I'm liking what I've heard so far. A lot.

― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Thursday, 2 November 2006 17:58 (nineteen years ago)

lovin it

― chaki (chaki), Thursday, 2 November 2006 18:26 (nineteen years ago)

I really, really like it. Best video game music ever.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 2 November 2006 18:43 (nineteen years ago)

Beats are kinda lazy, but it doesn't bother me too much.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 2 November 2006 18:44 (nineteen years ago)

planetarium is a good track. ambient track afterwards into circlewave 2 is nice. plotinus is also busy and propulsif. can't really stand the insubstantial fluffiness of this album otherwise. closing track has a nice tone but i complain about the drumming

― held tony (held tony), Thursday, 2 November 2006 19:00 (nineteen years ago)

the second track is like the best music ever made

― chaki (chaki), Thursday, 2 November 2006 19:34 (nineteen years ago)

Is that the really noodly jazzy one? If it's the track I'm thinking of it's one of the only ones I can't stand.

― Jordan (Jordan), Thursday, 2 November 2006 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

i heard this in the record store & it was awesome

― and what (ooo), Thursday, 2 November 2006 19:45 (nineteen years ago)

yeah, the theme from sprite is gay as hell.

― held tony (held tony), Thursday, 2 November 2006 20:21 (nineteen years ago)

'music is rotted one note' is an enjoyable record. a lot of shifting funk and loose playfulness. some pretty mysterious melodies going on in the middle of it too w/the electric piano/chimes

― held tony (held tony), Thursday, 2 November 2006 20:24 (nineteen years ago)

six months pass...

planetarium = http://www.freesmileys.org/emo/dance006.gif

― and what, Thursday, 17 May 2007 16:27 (nineteen years ago)

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a368/xXSammaeLXx/HEADBANGER.gif

― and what, Thursday, 17 May 2007 17:50 (nineteen years ago)

I assume most people are past the point of caring, but I thought "hello everything" was pretty good

― Michael F Gill, Thursday, 17 May 2007 18:50 (nineteen years ago)

seven months pass...

hello meow

― and what, Thursday, 27 December 2007 18:04 (eighteen years ago)

burning'n tree is still the one release of his I consider solid
he has regressed into the world of everything-I-do-sounds-better-remixed-by-luke-vibert, a world previously only inhabited by Coldcut

― El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 December 2007 20:10 (eighteen years ago)

I am dance music rockist

― El Tomboto, Thursday, 27 December 2007 20:13 (eighteen years ago)

I haven't listened to Hello Everything for like a year.

― Jordan, Thursday, 27 December 2007 20:33 (eighteen years ago)

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