― Peter M, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 05:47 (twenty-three years ago)
oh, and classic, by the way.
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 06:00 (twenty-three years ago)
I like "And nothing turned itself inside out" the best.
― A Nairn (moretap), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 06:36 (twenty-three years ago)
Not precisely.
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 06:40 (twenty-three years ago)
We saw them when they played the RFH a couple of years back with Neil Innes and Robyn Hitchcock added to the line-up. Magic.
― Marcello Carlin, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 10:09 (twenty-three years ago)
― Peter M, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 12:01 (twenty-three years ago)
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 12:51 (twenty-three years ago)
sxxx
― stevie (stevie), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 12:56 (twenty-three years ago)
― hstencil, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 15:13 (twenty-three years ago)
good article:http://www.prosoundweb.com/recording/tapeop/roger/roger.php
― Sean Peoples (speoples), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 15:17 (twenty-three years ago)
― chk chk chk, Tuesday, 10 December 2002 16:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mark (MarkR), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 16:17 (twenty-three years ago)
― Josh (Josh), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 16:36 (twenty-three years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 16:38 (twenty-three years ago)
Yes. And Then Nothing... comes in a digipak which looks pretty bad after a couple years of wear and tear. That's a pretty big flaw.
FOR GOD'S SAKE, THEY NAMED A SONG AFTER A TROY MCCLURE TV SPECIAL! CLASSIC X 1000!
― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 17:03 (twenty-three years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 10 December 2002 17:32 (twenty-three years ago)
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 01:24 (twenty-three years ago)
― David Allen, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 01:33 (twenty-three years ago)
Anyway, I was listening to this song today and looked up the lyrics. I never heard Paul Le Mat or KAte Moss when listening casually.
Everyday (Yo La Tengo)
I want summer's sad songs behind me.I want a laugh a minute, without failWant to be Paul Le Mat in 1980Looking to forget tomorrow, looking everyday.
I want to see you put your hands together.I want to cross my heartI want to hope to dieI hear Kate Moss talk, she talks to meShe's looking for a new beginning everyday.
When Monday comes I want nothingCome Tuesday morning I want the sameThe days and nights fly byLooking to embrace the nothing, of the everyday
― Aaron A., Wednesday, 11 December 2002 07:46 (twenty-three years ago)
"And then Nothing..." and "I Can Hear the Heart..." were both in the NME's top 20 albums of the year. Hardly a diss. I have those two recs, plus Electropura, which is good, sloppy fuzz-pop. "And then Nothing.." is gloopy, washy, forgettable ambience. "I Can Hear the heart..." is simply one of the best records of the 90's. Lovely, sweet, touching melodies everywhere. Frequently slathered in beautiful noise. Who could want for more?
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 13:58 (twenty-three years ago)
― Alan Connor (alanconnor), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 23:44 (twenty-three years ago)
However I really like The Sounds Of The Sounds Of Science - one of my fave releases of the year.
― Chris Barrus (xibalba), Thursday, 12 December 2002 18:50 (twenty-three years ago)
but what i really want to say is that their cover of neil young's "barstool blues" has been kicking my ass around for about almost 2 weeks now.
― gygax!, Tuesday, 14 January 2003 20:36 (twenty-three years ago)
― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 23:11 (twenty-three years ago)
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 06:58 (twenty-three years ago)
― dave225 (Dave225), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 12:56 (twenty-three years ago)
1990, "Here Comes My Baby" PROMO-ONLY CDEP (Bar None Records)Here Comes My Baby (from Fakebook)The Story of Jazz (live)Barstool Blues (live)Let's Compromise (live, w/Chris Nelson singing)At The River's Edge (live)Ecstasy Blues (live)Speeding Motorcycle (w/Daniel Johnston singing via telephone)
The live songs were recorded at our first-ever Berlin date on a not-especially-pleasant European tour. Chris Nelson, formerly of Information ("Let's Compromise" was one of their songs), later of Mofungo and The Scene Is Now, accompanied us. His occasional lead vocals provided us with many of the tour's memorable moments, particularly a frenzied performance of "1969" at our first-ever Madrid data. It was a free show and therefore packed a fairly large rock club (named The Rock Club), through it turned out there was still sufficient space for the crowd to get out of Chris' wasy when he decided to stage diver from the too-high-to-land-back-first stage. He limped for the rest of the tour, which didn't keep him from playing a stellar short solo set in Nijmegen, where we heard him debut "Gone For A Long Time" if memory serves.--Ira Kaplan
― gygax!, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 16:17 (twenty-three years ago)
― Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 15 January 2003 20:56 (twenty-three years ago)
― alex in mainhattan (alex63), Thursday, 16 January 2003 06:53 (twenty-three years ago)
― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 16 January 2003 07:33 (twenty-three years ago)
(if so plz lemme know asap thx)
― Sam J. (samjeff), Wednesday, 24 September 2003 17:50 (twenty-three years ago)
I love this band. They make me smile. THERE IS SO MUCH LOVE.
― Ian Johnson (orion), Sunday, 28 March 2004 06:09 (twenty-two years ago)
― the surface noise (electricsound), Sunday, 28 March 2004 06:17 (twenty-two years ago)
Painful has been my favourite of late, esp. Sudden Organ.
― derrick (derrick), Sunday, 28 March 2004 06:30 (twenty-two years ago)
― Piers (piers), Monday, 15 November 2004 22:55 (twenty-one years ago)
i like quite a bit of painful, too, but it seems to me that the more and more they've gone into sonic fuckery, the less and less attention they've paid to the songs. i liked them best when they had that balance.
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 15 November 2004 23:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 15 November 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)
(And why don't HTML tags work for me fcc - how you doin' 'em?)
― Piers (piers), Monday, 15 November 2004 23:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― fact checking cuz (fcc), Monday, 15 November 2004 23:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ian John50n (orion), Monday, 15 November 2004 23:32 (twenty-one years ago)
"Painful" is wonderful, it's an album that I can hear two or three times in a day without getting tired of it. "Nowhere Near" was in the top 10 on my ballot for the 90's poll.
As others have mentioned, YLT really should keep their albums under 50 minutes or so, although when they go totally bonkers with their eclecticism ("I Can Hear the Heart ...") they can be excused for stretching things out another ten minutes.
― MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Monday, 15 November 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)
― 57 7th (calstars), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 00:00 (twenty-one years ago)
However, I sure wish they'd take the mic away from Ira. God, I hate his voice. Sometimes, I don't think he's even trying.
― darin (darin), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 00:37 (twenty-one years ago)
― noodle vague (noodle vague), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 00:40 (twenty-one years ago)
Also the Today is the Day , EP version, is pretty fantastic ..
― dave225 (Dave225), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 01:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― j.m. lockery (j.m. lockery), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 01:32 (twenty-one years ago)
― sleep (sleep), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 14:17 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)
Electropura is my favorite. All the "rockists" HATED Summer Sun when it came out.
Great taste in covers too. And they named themselves after a Richie Ashburn tall tale, how Classic can you get?
― Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 16 November 2004 17:20 (twenty-one years ago)
― Dark Horse, Tuesday, 16 November 2004 17:52 (twenty-one years ago)
not all of us purchased the condo fucks album
u sick bastard
― mookieproof, Sunday, 19 July 2026 05:57 (three months ago)
I thought the last album was immediately excellent in a way that made me more excited for their new material than the last maybe 10 years of perfectly fine albums had.
― JoeStork, Sunday, 19 July 2026 06:07 (three months ago)
they never started making bad albums but the last one was a return to the quality of their 90s peak, a very pleasant surprise after 20 years of good-not-great albums. i hope they've got more like that in them
― ufo, Sunday, 19 July 2026 08:30 (three months ago)
with any luck its terms will be less cringe than 'poppy bush interzone'
― mookieproof, Sunday, July 19, 2026
*cough*
― boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 July 2026 12:11 (three months ago)
otm and it made me go back and listen to some of those perfectly fine albums that I'd ignored. And seeing them live on that tour (which I've documented somewhere upthread, unless it's in a different YLT thread) really did reinforce their claim to Greatest Working American Rock Band for me.
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 19 July 2026 13:08 (three months ago)
also this is one of those takes i have no use for anymore
Honestly? There are almost 20 Yo La Tengo studio albums, plus comps and EPs and singles and side projects etc. And that's just one band! At one point I owned it all, but now I don't. So it goes. But how many physical LPs/CDs/whatevers am I *supposed* to own? It is not my job to serve as anyone's physical media archive, and even if it was, at some point there will be considerable gaps in my collection of, I dunno, Neil Young, or John Zorn, or other prolific (or less prolific!) acts. Streaming is not a substitute, but it is a convenience. Fortunately, I'm fully able to hear whatever I want from whoever I want whenever I want, it's not hard to find stuff and listen to it. The reason I brought up May I Sing? is that iirc it's one of the very few Yo La Tengo albums you *can't* stream, most are available, hence the frustration.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 July 2026 13:23 (three months ago)
isn't this streaming?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k5rQrJhMtU
― Serfin' USA (sleeve), Sunday, 19 July 2026 13:42 (three months ago)
Yeah, it's on youtube, but can I listen to youtube in, say, the car. Or on a plane? I've never tried, tbh.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 July 2026 14:14 (three months ago)
Josh, you can also buy it for $9.99 on iTunes.
― boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 July 2026 14:18 (three months ago)
Like I said, it's *available*, used (physical) and new (digital). I have no problem finding virtually *anything* on the internet. It's just not on any of the streaming services. (It's personal preference/principle, but I generally don't pay for digital copies.)
I dunno, I just file it under "out of print," as far as these things go. In the pre-streaming era, it used to be hard to find Ornette Coleman's "Of Human Feelings," or Galaxie 500, or other simply out of circulation stuff. Hell, John Zorn and his many hundreds of projects *are* on streaming ... except for the studio output of Naked City and Masada, his most popular projects, both more or less out of circulation physically as well (bar limited edition boxed sets, the former sold out, the latter $200 for *CDs*, which are no less worthless a format today than they were back in the day). But yeah, if I wanted files or used copies, those are definitely a few clicks away. Just not as convenient.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 July 2026 14:27 (three months ago)
You can buy the damn thing and play it on your phone but whatever
― boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 July 2026 14:29 (three months ago)
I *have* a copy of it that I'm sure I ripped from the CD 20+ years ago. But at least in theory they would get a few fractions of a cent were I to stream it, which in the end is why I have a streaming service in the first place.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 19 July 2026 14:32 (three months ago)
Assuming your car has Bluetooth, you can stream YouTube via your phone. Which I do sometimes, but it does come with the annoyance of YouTube ads of course.
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 19 July 2026 15:34 (three months ago)
subscribing to youtube/youtube music was the best streaming decision i've ever made. also, for YLT the bandcamp app is great for phone and i'm really an app minimalist
― get bento (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 19 July 2026 15:57 (three months ago)
think i owe noodle vague a thank you for that suggestion
― get bento (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 19 July 2026 15:58 (three months ago)
back on topic: was just (finally listening to) The Bunker Sessions for the first time last week and it freaking RULES
― get bento (outdoor_miner), Sunday, 19 July 2026 16:05 (three months ago)
VLC player on iOS has a library function that makes for a very iPod-like experience... can just upload tracks/folders from your pc through wifi. music on phone was the last thing keeping me tied to streaming... this setup isn't exactly a different 'form factor' but it's enough of a change-up to freshen up my relationship with music and help me re-engage
i'm assuming apple music can do something like this too but their ecosystem is basically garbage, i don't want my personal files tied to that at all, so i was pleased how well VLC worked out for this
― global tetrahedron, Sunday, 19 July 2026 18:14 (three months ago)
haha very much agree
re: May I Sing With Me, I was wondering if YLT might be getting the rights back — there was that recent (very good) Hypnolovewheel comp (which James McNew compiled!) and at least some of it was on Alias. You could probably sting together a very nice deluxe 2LP reissue ... maybe it could just be all "Sunsquashed."
― tylerw, Sunday, 19 July 2026 19:32 (three months ago)
would buy
― Serfin' USA (sleeve), Sunday, 19 July 2026 19:46 (three months ago)
I will find you and cut you.
― boners for bombs (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 19 July 2026 20:12 (three months ago)
https://uk.rarevinyl.com/cdn/shop/products/yo-la-tengo-i-m-not-afraid-of-you-and-i-will-beat-your-ass-uk-promo-cd-r-acetate-ole692-423022_1200x1200.jpg?v=1699164698
― tylerw, Sunday, 19 July 2026 20:15 (three months ago)
i like yo la tengo 🙂
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Sunday, 19 July 2026 20:20 (three months ago)
there was that recent (very good) Hypnolovewheel comp
Wow, now there is a name I have not heard in a long time. One of the members worked at Marvel Comics as an assistant editor in the late-80s/early-90s, so you’d often see their name in the Bullpen Bulletins section or as a throwaway reference in a panel. I remember finally hearing them in the mid-90s and being disappointed. I should give that comp a listen to see if I enjoy their music more now without years of expectations against them.
I’m now going to go throw May I Sing With Me on the turntable.
― Ropy, Sunday, 19 July 2026 20:40 (three months ago)
Weird amnesia thing I have:
I cannot remember a single song other than "upside down" from the 2 Alias records (whereas I can recall dozens from PYLT/NWHD/RTT & pretty much all of Fakebook).
― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 19 July 2026 20:43 (three months ago)
wait what's the other alias record? i though it was just may i sing with me
― ufo, Sunday, 19 July 2026 21:38 (three months ago)
my bad, it was not an LP but the 33 minute Upside Down EP, which had the Farmer's Daughter and CH3 covers which I can somewhat recall?
― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 19 July 2026 22:27 (three months ago)
i've never heard that, maybe i should go through all their non-album material which i've only heard a little of
looking at that, they really need to put out a comprehensive rarities compilation, genius + love and the third disc of prisoners of love leave a ton off and there's all sorts of weird rarities that don't seem to be on streaming at all
― ufo, Sunday, 19 July 2026 22:44 (three months ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nvel4jtV4_8
The Sleepless Night ep is pretty good
― Cow_Art, Sunday, 19 July 2026 23:49 (three months ago)
I love everything they've done, but somehow the intimacy of Fakebook is what sticks with me
― Dan S, Monday, 20 July 2026 01:13 (three months ago)
"David lynch" podcast
― Rose of Nevada Fighter (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 July 2026 02:33 (three months ago)
Heh sorry was searching for something and got confused by the way the interface looks now and posted the search terms by accident
Found it! Post by birdistheword from David Lynch - Classic or Dud on ILX - David Lynch - Classic or Dud
― Rose of Nevada Fighter (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 20 July 2026 02:37 (three months ago)
revisiting their early work today and while none of it's bad and there's certainly moments, it's crazy how much of a leap forward painful was for them
― ufo, Tuesday, 21 July 2026 12:57 (three months ago)
Yeah, for me, May I Sing, Painful and Fakebook were formative and peak, and if I could only have three, those would be the three (plus And Then Nothing ...). (And maybe this is just a when you discovered them sort of thing, but I've always thought Electr-O-Pura and I Can Feel the Heart were overrated/overstuffed. Not bad at all, just overrated compared to Painful, which imo is perfect.)
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 July 2026 13:26 (three months ago)
i don't really care for fakebook, it's not bad but they figured out how to write better songs than a lot of what they're covering on it. may i sing with me was a big step forward too but it's just a decent album that's still a bit inconsistent, the step from that to painful is incredible
electr-o-pura is their peak, everything on it is great! i can hear the heart... is a little overrated though yeah and i don't really get why it's the consensus favourite - it has a lot of their best material but doesn't really fit together well as an album and falls off a fair bit in the second half, i'd put this stupid world over it for sure, maybe and then nothing... too
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9fSOxehYEpw
anyway i just stumbled across this fantastic version of "i heard you looking" with an extended lineup of lambchop on stage - horn section, pedal steel, and vibraphone!
― ufo, Tuesday, 21 July 2026 13:41 (three months ago)
they did most of the show with lambchop but i can't find a recording of the rest of it anywhere which is a shame because this is incredible
― ufo, Tuesday, 21 July 2026 13:51 (three months ago)
like they did "night falls on hoboken", i really want to hear what they turned that into with this expanded band
― ufo, Tuesday, 21 July 2026 13:54 (three months ago)
Announced their annual Hanukkah shows at Bowery Ballroom, Dec 4-11. Tix on sale Friday. They also included this image with the announcement, which I hope doesn't really mean what it implies...
https://m.media-amazon.com/images/M/MV5BMTQxOTYzNzk3OV5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwODIwOTc2NA@@._V1_.jpg
― better than ezra collective soul asylum (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 21 July 2026 14:43 (three months ago)
They are playing in LA soon with Nels Cline and a revolving cast of singers to do a tribute to the music of Yoko Ono (at The Broad museum which currently has an Ono exhibition)
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 21 July 2026 15:07 (three months ago)
Also with Yuka Honda of Cibo Matto as part of the house band with Cline and YLT
― sctttnnnt (pgwp), Tuesday, 21 July 2026 15:19 (three months ago)
I learned only recently that Honda and Cline are married.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 21 July 2026 15:28 (three months ago)
I was listening to Eleventh Dream Day's "El Moodio" yesterday. The band and Yo La have always been simpatico, and that album and "Painful" came out the same year and have a lot in common, imo, with no doubt due to a lot of shared influences (Neil Young, VU, etc.). One of my fave shows of all time remains EDD with Ira guesting on second guitar at Lounge Ax around the same time.
I'm surprised Aadam Jacobs didn't record it (if he didn't), but here's one song I found:
https://soundcloud.com/pat-daly-1/eleventh-dream-day-w-ira-1
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 July 2026 17:52 (three months ago)
I need to spend time with Eleventh Dream Day, they’ve been recommended to me a lot. I’m a huge Freakwater fan.
― Cow_Art, Thursday, 23 July 2026 18:53 (three months ago)
do you know this one?
https://www.discogs.com/master/2662805-Freakons-Freakons
― Serfin' USA (sleeve), Thursday, 23 July 2026 19:00 (three months ago)
For what it's worth, Freakwater sounds nothing like Dream Day. Freakwater is kind of country and folk, quality campfire stuff. Dream Day is sort of loosely Americana but way of post punk skronk.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 23 July 2026 20:26 (three months ago)
Freakons
Also don't miss Jon Langford's collaboration with Nile Rodgers, Chicons.
― mick signals, Thursday, 23 July 2026 21:02 (three months ago)
Suggestions for a post-"Fade" playlist?
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 23 July 2026 21:32 (three months ago)
i mean, there's only two albums of original songs since fade, with there's a riot going on being good and this stupid world being great
― ufo, Thursday, 23 July 2026 21:50 (three months ago)
I would also put in a good word for Stuff Like That There and Sleepless Night--both essentially covers records with an original on each, but they're mostly acoustic and expertly crafted. Check out "Roll on Babe" or "Naples"...they're not just going through the motions, they're really great renditions.
― mr. milligan, Thursday, 23 July 2026 23:27 (three months ago)
Woah, Freakons. Ordering…
― Cow_Art, Friday, 24 July 2026 02:33 (three months ago)