Best Power Pop band?

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IS Big Star the only power pop band thats truly great or are there any that are just as good from the 90s?
Or was the golden era the New Wave times?

Peter M, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 00:17 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ash! No, really!

B.Rad (Brad), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 00:23 (twenty-two years ago) link

Shoes, Cheap Trick, The Posies, Material Issue, Jellyfish, Sloan, and The Raspberries -- and plenty of others. Big Star, while great, just gets most of the praise for showing up early.

paul cox (paul cox), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 00:23 (twenty-two years ago) link

(I'm gonna get shot for this, but...) Silver Sun are ace! At least, the first album is; everything else they've done has been fairly pants. But the first (eponymous) LP is almost flawless as far as the power-pop canon goes.

Charlie (Charlie), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 00:26 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Plimsouls

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 00:31 (twenty-two years ago) link

This is my very short reply - a longer one later tomorrow I hope.

Big Star are the greatest and finest exponents of this thing we call Power Pop, but there are plenty of innovative greats since their brief appearance in the early 70's, from the new wave era, and since in the 80's, 90's and 2000's. Who are they? I'll tell you tomorrow! :)

Mr Qwerty, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 00:36 (twenty-two years ago) link

Sloan are one of the most triumphant power pop groups. Every album they put out aside from the first and the last were fantastic; although I must admit after hearing "Pretty Together" I secretly hope they call it quits as they are starting to slide downhill. Still, four great albums in a row is no mean feat.

You must like power pop to think they are great though, obv.

webcrack (music=crack), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 00:54 (twenty-two years ago) link

I actually like Pretty Together more than either Between the Bridges or Navy Blues...it seems, to me anyway, that they're experiencing a creative resurgence rather than a downhill slide.

But it's probably just me.

paul cox (paul cox), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 01:29 (twenty-two years ago) link

they've sucked since navy blues.

but Twice Removed and One Chord to Another? Oh lordy!

Sean@tangmonkey (Sean M), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 02:58 (twenty-two years ago) link

Hoodoo Gurus

A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 03:29 (twenty-two years ago) link


the knack?? not sure if they qualify.

m.

msp, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 04:11 (twenty-two years ago) link

Letters To Cleo... anyone? Anyone?

jm (jtm), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 04:27 (twenty-two years ago) link

doughboys(pre-happy accidents),sloan, destroyer, goddo

chad (chad), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 05:32 (twenty-two years ago) link

though i think they're at their best when they don't sound particularly power-poppy, i still hold a candle big time for the Posies. definitely a worthy successor to Big * in that their output is really a lot more diverse than the power pop label tends to account for.

Al (sitcom), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 06:27 (twenty-two years ago) link

redd kross circa "neurotica" & white flag circa "wild kingdom"

duane, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 06:31 (twenty-two years ago) link

do they count as power pop?

duane, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 06:32 (twenty-two years ago) link

oops i better stop doing that

d, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 06:33 (twenty-two years ago) link

XTC. Stretching the definition a bit, but ah well.
The dB's. Oh yeah.
Velvet Crush.

Matt C., Wednesday, 11 December 2002 06:38 (twenty-two years ago) link

Ooh! Ooh! Forgot about Ratcat! ESOJ, back me up here...

Charlie (Charlie), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 06:40 (twenty-two years ago) link

Redd Kross were a great band. Third Eye & neurotica are certainly the best albums(just) but Phaseshifter and Show World are surely the 2 that can be called Power Pop.
Anyone heard the Redd Stripes album where Steve McDonald added bass to the White Stripes last album. I havent seen it anywhere online.
I believe The brothers are in another band now (Ze Malibu Kidz)+ steve has the Steve McDonald Group as well.
And If we're talking Redd Kross we have to mention The Posies - Frosting On The Beater. Classic!

Peter M, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 06:51 (twenty-two years ago) link

A Fannies best-of would qualify them, surely. "God Know It's True" is one of my favorite powerpop songs evah. "Everything Flows" "The Concept" "Starsign" "Alcoholiday" "Neil Jung" etc. all great.

Aaron A., Wednesday, 11 December 2002 07:21 (twenty-two years ago) link

We've done this before, I'm sure. Cotton Mather, and The Shazam are good. The Shazams' "Godspeed" is the best power pop album.

dwh (dwh), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 10:28 (twenty-two years ago) link

Anyone know anything about The Raspberries?
Do Soft Boys count as powerpop? or even paisley underground stuff?

bill b, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 13:40 (twenty-two years ago) link

Get "Frosting on the Beater" by The Posies. Covers all bases.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 14:04 (twenty-two years ago) link

Some recent-ish power-pop albums that come with my highest recommendations:

Matthew Sweet - Girlfriend
Lemonheads - Come and feel the Lemonheads
Lemonheads - Its A Shame About Ray
Fountains of Wayne - Fountains of Wayne
The Posies - Frosting on the Beater
Teenge Fanclub - Grand Prix
Teenge Fanclub - Bandwagonesque
Teenge Fanclub - Songs From Northern Britain (The Best Of will be awesome, too)

The first track on Brendan Benson's new album is the best power-pop song I've heard in a while. Very uplifting. Haven't listened to the rest of the rec enough to judge, but I don't think anything matches that one. I always think of Ash as being too trashy to be labelled "power-pop", but their "1977" album is rather good.

If you can only afford one of these recs, make it either "It's a Shame About Ray" or "Grand Prix." The Lemonheads have been written out of history a bit, unfairly in my opinion. That album is very short, but it's so simple and enjoyable, you'll play it to death. It's a fixture on my stereo in the Summer months. And "Grand Prix" is the Fannies' masterpiece. Unspeakably tuneful, with great sloppy guitars. Silver Sun, incidentally, are awful.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 14:18 (twenty-two years ago) link

We did a thread a while ago, where we had to pick our 3 fave power-pop tracks. Mine were:

Matthew Sweet - I Thought I Knew You
Lemonheads - Confetti
Teenge Fanclub - Neil Jung

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 14:20 (twenty-two years ago) link

yikes, everyone forgot about velvet crush who recently released their beautiful soft sounds onto the world - now they seem more aligned with the west coast scene, than the power pop scene, but they are, a quiet force for all, who enjoy the byrds power pop.

doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 14:54 (twenty-two years ago) link

In the absence of more time, I've reproduced this from my Powerpop Web Site at http://home.clara.co.uk/fil/powerpop.htm. This is my short introduction to Powerpop, which mentions the great Big Star, some of their contemporaries, and aludes to that which followed. later i'll follow up with a few more rcommendations, however you could do well to explore my web site for more than 700 great Powerpop album recommendations!

There's a view that if it hadn't been for the Beatles in 1962,or more importantly 1964 (from a US perspective), then
the western middle class might all be humming Frankie Avalon, Pat Boone, Adam Faith and Shadows songs in
the new millennium. A Sobering thought!

Luckily for us, the Beatles did appear, and so wrote the blueprint for the Pop Song of the latter 20th Century. The seductive sound of two guitars, bass and drums, a clever hooking melody and harmonies is so strong, that to deviate from it, is close to ex-communication from life itself.

Slightly later, but almost at the same time, other British bands, like the Who, the Kinks and the Move, built on the Beatles blueprint with heavier guitars, lyrics beyond the simple love song to mold the sound which the Americans called the British Invasion.

Not content with merely aping this challenge from their old colonial enemies, the Americans in the form of the Byrds (with a nod to the Searchers and Hollies as well as the Beatles), a maturing Beach Boys, the Turtles and a thousand garage bands across the US, took the blueprint and fired it right back at the British to produce a cornucopia of variations on the original style.

It was Pete Townshend that coined the term Power Pop, when asked by a Brit music paper in the late 60's "What type of music do the Who play?", and so by 1969, the term and pretty much the style had been born.

It lay dormant for a period, during which time the Beatles called it a day, songs, hair and guitar solos got much longer and young white men generally discovered the blues, merged it with their pop chops and called it progressive. Woodstock happen, bands got it together in the country, LP's started to sell in the quantities usually reserved for singles, and rock music had arrived as Art.

Meanwhile in 1971/1972, in Memphis, where modern pop music arguably started with Elvis back in the 50's, Alex Chilton, teen hero of the Box Tops and Anglophile Chris Bell hatched a marriage of all that was good that had gone before and came up with Big Star. Released to a world that was not ready for them in 1972 and 1973 respectively, Big Star's first two albums define what we come to know and love about modern Power Pop. A left field slant on 60's pop, big chiming guitars, irresistible hooks, economical solos, the right mix of hard and soft, Chilton's sloppiness married to Bell's exactness. Almost 30 years on it's still close to heaven.

I found my copies of #1 Record and Radio City in a remainder store for 50 pence a piece in the mid 70's - I couldn't believe my luck - it was like I'd found the crown jewels and nobody knew.

Big Star weren't alone, in England there was Badfinger who were at the time tragically overshadowed by their boss labelmates at Apple, then beset by management, financial and later double suicide - but their musical legacy is achingly wonderful. Nick Lowe's band Brinsley Schwarz were alone voice in the 70's pub rock land penning slightly country tinged melodic songs when all around was prog! In the States there was the magnificent Raspberries, who by the time they made the last and greatest album were clouded by their previous teen appeal, but leader Eric Carmen possess one of the finest pop voices of all time.

The Stories, Dirty Angels, Blue Ash and Dwight Twilley were also major shakers working in a similar area in the early to mid 70's.

By the time the punk era came along, the die was cast and Powerpop was subsumed into what journalists called New Wave, but early significant artists would include Chris Stamey and the DB's, The Shoes, The Beat, The Romantics, The Rubinoos, The Paley Brothers, The Knack, 20/20, Pezband The Cars. From England: The Records, The Jags, The Starjets, Squeeze, XTC and The Freshies.

From then on, it kind of explodes, and then we are moving into the realms of another article. The weird thing about all this, is why the classic pop blueprint set by the Beatles all those years ago, although captivating and full of hooks, has apart from one or two exceptions, generally been so unpopular with record buyers? We have to fast-forward many years before the appearance of REM in the 80's and later Britpop in the shape of Oasis and Blur etc in the 90's.

However, Power pop is amazingly alive and well, and for the most part it's still residing in the cult ghetto that has been its home since the early 70's. No matter, the basic elements of classic pop and power pop – lush melodies, big hooks, focused energy, and unabashed enthusiasm – have been handed down through three generations of musicians and endured despite the radical changes in popular music over the same period. Somehow Power Pop seems to always find a way back into our consciousness, usually in conjunction with other kinds of popular music (i.e., disco, grunge) hitting spectacular new lows.

Mr Qwerty, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 14:55 (twenty-two years ago) link

sloan are poo. they have a handful of songs but can't make an album for the life of them, avoid, avoid, avoid.....the songs, that are any cop are featured in the virgin suicides.

new power popsters are gripweeds (rainbow quartz) and thomson (poptones) ... the children of teenage fanclub.

but shit, and man alive, please don't forget about velvet crush, from teenage symphonies to god, heavy changes, soft sounds, this rhode island quartet have everything and probably the best drummer on the scene - rick menck, who is presently drumming for the tyde.

doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 14:57 (twenty-two years ago) link

and one must not forget the scruffs, recently reissued on revola records, it's a johnny thundered up big star.

god, there are so many great power pop records.....like, dunno, VELVET CRUSH, EVERYONE MUST BUY SOFT SOUNDS OR DOWNLOAD IT.

my other favourite is swearing at motorists...

doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 14:59 (twenty-two years ago) link

Lets not forget all the great 'twee' pop bands who have the same influences and are just as left field. Tragically all dismissed by the bloated music press..
Can anyone name some classic powerpop or twee albums to check out?
Im sure MrQwerty can help us out there.

Bill B, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 15:04 (twenty-two years ago) link

twee pop - belle and sebastian, sea urchins and sonic flower groove, primal scream, there you go, sorted.

doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 15:06 (twenty-two years ago) link

Reindeer Section is good twee-pop

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 15:21 (twenty-two years ago) link

Reindeer Section is good twee-pop ugh. it's awful.

alfie is good twee pop (twisted nerve, now regal)

doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 15:26 (twenty-two years ago) link

Sugar!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 15:27 (twenty-two years ago) link

Hüsker Dü!

Bill B, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 15:40 (twenty-two years ago) link

hoodoo gurus!!! yaaayyy!!! it's been far too long since i heard them

add about a thousand dittos on the sloan front, but erm, naysayers are wrong. pretty together is their best album since twice removed. YES IT IS, fuck off OCTA obsessives.

the insomniacs were probably one of my favourite power pop bands. and bangs did a passable live impression of a power pop band. you've really got to be a trio to pull it off successfuly.

kate, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 15:43 (twenty-two years ago) link

all quickly downhill after 'one chord to another...'

doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 15:45 (twenty-two years ago) link

Sugar's "Beaster" is very good, yes. Better than the slightly overrated "Copper Blue". I stand by Reindeer Section, but what I've heard of Alfie is quite good also. It's like a folk-y Stone Roses.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 15:45 (twenty-two years ago) link

Hello?? Sugar and Husker Du aren't power pop.

Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 15:53 (twenty-two years ago) link

Sean,

You are quite right. Husker Du and Sugar are not power pop-especially Husker Du (and they're NOT emo either if anyone enquires.) Husker Du is more of post-punk/pop punk than anything else. Sugar can strain the line especially on Copper Blue-but Beaster and F.U.E.L. are indie rock. Matthew Sweet (to me) seems to be a good representation of power pop.

mal2478 (mal2478), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 16:00 (twenty-two years ago) link

THE ROCKET POPS!!!

kate, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 16:24 (twenty-two years ago) link

anything on RAINBOW QUARTZ LABEL! OUTRAGEOUS CHERRY/ASTEROID NO. 4/GRIPWEEDS/COTTON MATHER/REAL UNIVERSAL/SHAZAM....

THE LILYS - NANNY IN MANHATTEN!

doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 16:29 (twenty-two years ago) link

Pretty Together is defently a return to form though Take Good Care of The Poor boy does not deserve the grave it has on Between The Bridges.

Smeared is utter classic but not pop.

I'd say the The Buzzcocks - Singles Going Steady falls into the hinterland of this catagory.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 16:58 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Blondes (formerly Eagle) are my favorite power pop in the world right now. I remember Doomie started a thread on them once, but it went haywire. Oh, those were the days.

Arthur (Arthur), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 17:04 (twenty-two years ago) link

the lilys are NOT power-pop. hey, don't confuse genres like that. lilys are psychedelic garage-pop. AS IS ALMOST EVERYTHING ON RAINBOW QUARTZ.

wow, the gripweeds are still together? gah, have supported them several times. i liked them cause they were the only garage band in the NY/NJ area who did not have yet another chick bassist (yers truly included) but a chick LEAD GUITARIST who kicked major ass.

kate, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 17:16 (twenty-two years ago) link

This is astonishing that no one has mentioned the Flaming Groovies, easily the best power-pop/rock band there has ever been, in particular Shake Some Action, their mid-70s comeback release... The title track is among the greatest songs ever written!

Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 17:19 (twenty-two years ago) link

actually, on second thought, the gripweeds might just qualify as power-pop, cause they're more badfinger than beatles.

but lilys and asteroid no.4, no, no, not powerpop. psychedelic garage-pop.

(can you tell how many hours i've spent actually debating this?)

kate, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 17:19 (twenty-two years ago) link

I'll still say Sloan. Pretty Together wasn't as consistent as earlier albums, but the peaks were better than anything off the previous two albums (even if the lows were much lower).

But frankly, power pop is like a huge fuckin' insult term. It means you don't play strong enough to be rock! Like emo to pop-punk, it's like saying "but yer really wimpy!"

argh! Yancey topped me before I even got this posted! Flamin' Groovies are better. But Sloan are probably the best goin' strong today.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 17:21 (twenty-two years ago) link

sloan are poo. admit it. sloan are rank and awful and smell like poo. they have not written a 'song' since one chord to another. come on. you will feel better if you admit it.

DOOM-E, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 17:24 (twenty-two years ago) link

fact 7. i got drunk and told them to fuck off and get proper jobs.

doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:07 (twenty-two years ago) link

NOW that everyone FINALLY agrees with me, let's go and listen to some Velvet Crush. It's o.k. James and The Mission are poo as well. Everybody makes mistakes.

doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:08 (twenty-two years ago) link

Your right Peppermint has only two or three good songs at best, but Smeared is GREBT.
The live album is not as great Rheostatics Double live but still better then anything Oasis have done in years.
Was the second record them discovering the Byrd or Big Star?
Doom-e your sounding like on of Chris Murphy's xgf, get over it.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:11 (twenty-two years ago) link

yer counting the rubbish e.p as their first album? wow. yer are the st. teresa of failed indie rockers.

let's not get personal.....it's just his ass is rather large, and, occassionally the freakshow of his RATHER LARGE ASS

doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:13 (twenty-two years ago) link

yer counting the rubbish e.p as their first album? wow. yer are the st. teresa of failed indie rockers.

let's not get personal.....it's just his ass is rather large, and, occassionally the freakshow of his RATHER LARGE ASS DOES GET IN THE WAY...

what i am saying is justified, it's absolute rubbish, their back catalogue compared to Velvet Crush.

i mean, the Velvet Crush have Rick Menck for chrissakes, not some fat ass shit from halifax....and the Velvet Crush bath...

but comparing them both, and compare, soft sounds to pretty together, and you will see i have a very valid point!!

doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:15 (twenty-two years ago) link

I was underwhelmed, if that's a word, when I saw Sloan live. Opening for Yo La Tengo and fIREHOSE, both of those bands driving Econolines, Sloan with the Geffen-provided giganto tourbus.

hstencil, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:17 (twenty-two years ago) link

Actually Ric Menck used to be a little chubby... Besides Velvet Crush doesn't hold a candle to the members' other bands: Springfields, Choo Choo Train, Honeybunch, etc - they're ALL better than VC. I love Velvet Crush! It's just that Sloan are so much better...

Chris Mac, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:25 (twenty-two years ago) link

you all are on crack as usual. what about the real kids, the only ones, nick lowe, costello on my aim/this yrs model, know yr product-era saints, the knack, the cars, blondie?

agree w/ the flaming groovies, redd kross & cheap trick though

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:26 (twenty-two years ago) link

Im not talking about his ass, your arguements of Sloan being rubbish involves how you feel about his gf. Is your passion for Alan McGee why you love Creation?

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:27 (twenty-two years ago) link

it was a pun, i hate yer generation....JESUS, it's alright, i was a bit shocked when i found out sloan was rubbish as well. i think i have a hotline number somewhere...

doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:29 (twenty-two years ago) link

I was underwhelmed, if that's a word, when I saw Sloan live. Opening for Yo La Tengo and fIREHOSE, both of those bands driving Econolines, Sloan with the Geffen-provided giganto tourbus.
-- hstencil (hstencil@y...), December 11th, 2002.

sloan are rubbish as usual, as proven by shocking scientifical observation.

velvet crush still went out and released heavy changes though they were dropped at that time. sloan would not do that. they would live off of cancon money and bitch in the press! because they are rubbish, as usual.

doom, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:33 (twenty-two years ago) link

the girlfriend crack betrays your secret love for sloan, dude. you love them and want to marry them, obv.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:35 (twenty-two years ago) link

Heavy Changes?? That's the WORST VC record!!

Chris Mac, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:35 (twenty-two years ago) link

As opposed to release Twice Removed instead of Underwhelmed Part 2 as part of Geffens wishes knowing it was going to get them tanked and no promotion in the states.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:36 (twenty-two years ago) link

As opposed to release Twice Removed instead of Underwhelmed Part 2 as part of Geffens wishes knowing it was going to get them tanked and no promotion in the states.

And Sloan were shocked out of their one-hit rubbishness. Sloan still talk about it!!!!...maybe....shocka....it's not really that good of an album. egos hurt, tour bus taken away, cancon not states money beckons, etc.etc.

Heavy Changes is cool, they did something different and went rock.

doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:38 (twenty-two years ago) link

you looooooooove them

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:42 (twenty-two years ago) link

i honestly think that the canadian media press picked up on that angle of sloan, it was an anti-american, pro-canadian thing and sloan were propelled in popular press as the canadian beatles.

one chord to another, i rate, but the others, no!

it was almost if canada was saying 'no...we will make them the beatles, screw all over you'....


doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:45 (twenty-two years ago) link

which one of sloan has a fat ass? the only one over toothpick status would be patrick and yeah, he's chunky, but he's no julian casablancas.

i think doomie secretly IS one of chris murphy's ex-girlfriends. aaah, so much makes sense now...

kate, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:03 (twenty-two years ago) link

nah nah nah...yer just insulting me because sloan is so rubbish!

doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:18 (twenty-two years ago) link

pattie is not fat. now THIS is fat:

http://www.thestrokes.com/photos/1c/1c4.jpg

thinking "duh, even i know that doomie is jealous of chris murphy..."

kate, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:21 (twenty-two years ago) link

Pat isn't fat, he's built for a touring rockband member near 40. Or at least was a year or two ago. I wasn't checking out their physique this summer.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:24 (twenty-two years ago) link

if you call pattie fat, jem will appear and KICK YER CANADIAN ASS!!!

kate, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:32 (twenty-two years ago) link

sloan and doomie sittin' in a tree

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:32 (twenty-two years ago) link

yup...sloan are the ones for me, cause they are fattys.

DOOM-E, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:41 (twenty-two years ago) link

k-i-s-s-i-n-g

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:42 (twenty-two years ago) link

kate and mr noodles can't contribute to this thread, as they are both feared lost.


http://www.theonion.com/onion3813/record-store_clerks.html

doomie-eee, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:43 (twenty-two years ago) link

don't go waving yer hands at me, doomie, i'll chop yer fooking hands off...

http://www.thestrokes.com/photos/5c/5c13.jpg

kate, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:49 (twenty-two years ago) link

they rest in peace knowing that sloan are fatty rubbish and velvet crush are gods.

doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:50 (twenty-two years ago) link

have you been driniking, doomie?

kate, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:51 (twenty-two years ago) link

just having some tea and giddy for my fabulous vacation tomorrow and listening to songs:ohio

doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:52 (twenty-two years ago) link

weird, if you go to sloan's homepage, it leadsd you to search engine, where, obviously you would type v e l v e t c r u s h...

doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:53 (twenty-two years ago) link

rewind... the above photo is DOOMIE ON THE PLANE HEADED FOR HIS FABULOUS VACATION.

LOOK OUT, CANADIA!!! WATCH OUT, SLOOOOOOO-AN!

kate, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:54 (twenty-two years ago) link

i won't be seeing sloan as i am not a proper jobs counsellor...!!!

doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:57 (twenty-two years ago) link

The Adventures of Sloan's Manager

Those Sloan boys are going to be excited about leading the lead roles in the musical "Going Down the Road"

doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 21:02 (twenty-two years ago) link

Australia has much better powerpop bands than Ratcat. How about The Chevelles. The Someloves. Stems. and that's just Perth.

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 12 December 2002 00:07 (twenty-two years ago) link

I think one of these giant tour bus types maybe lives in my building - a month or so ago we watched one (a giant bus I mean) maneuver itself around out the back here to get to the loading bay and all sorts of music equipment was unloaded and *someone* was dropped off... who it was, I didn't see. Now I keep scrutinizing all the folks I see in the elevator.

Kim (Kim), Thursday, 12 December 2002 01:03 (twenty-two years ago) link

man, i want one of those giant tourbusses... it's really not that impressive getting dropped off in a hired van. :-(

kate, Thursday, 12 December 2002 01:07 (twenty-two years ago) link

Im telling you Lollies 3 Canadian tour. I'll drive the bus from Halifax to Toronto. Anthony can take you through the west.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 12 December 2002 03:24 (twenty-two years ago) link

Gay Dad. There, I said it.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 12 December 2002 13:30 (twenty-two years ago) link

Husker Du could get very Power Popish- I mean, "Makes No Sense At All"!


But frankly, power pop is like a huge fuckin' insult term. It means you don't play strong enough to be rock! Like emo to pop-punk, it's like saying "but yer really wimpy!"

Anthony, do you hate wimps?

Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 12 December 2002 13:38 (twenty-two years ago) link

Lets do another Canadian powerpop band: Change of Heart.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 12 December 2002 14:08 (twenty-two years ago) link

but doesn't "powerpop" imply the ability to conjure up something resembling a melody?

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 12 December 2002 14:30 (twenty-two years ago) link

Are you saying Change of Heart couldn't? Then why the hell have I been search high and low for a copy of Smile?
Other then the obvious that Im a record store clerk lost in the Great Yo La Tengo accident as Doom Patrol would have you believe.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 12 December 2002 14:34 (twenty-two years ago) link

I don't know, maybe it's just me, but I saw them play at least 4 or 5 times and own a couple of the records including "smile" and there is no way I have ever found myself humming one of their songs, so i'd say "powerpop" is off the mark.

not to say they're a bad band... not really my thing, but I can see why people were into them... just not at all powerpop

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 12 December 2002 14:46 (twenty-two years ago) link

actually, if I still have it, you're welcome to my copy of "smile"... think i might have given it away already though

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 12 December 2002 14:52 (twenty-two years ago) link

Maybe its just my experiences. First I heard of them was Ian playing in Bionic and then Blurtonia. Both of which I wasn't too big on, but someone suggested I try their older stuff which is a heck of alot more poppy then Blurtonia.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 12 December 2002 14:53 (twenty-two years ago) link

yeah, everything's relative, i suppose.

Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 12 December 2002 15:03 (twenty-two years ago) link

i would add highback chairs to the mix, perhaps.

also would concur on hoodoo gurus, teenage fanclub and brendan benson (who incidentally puts on a pretty good live show).

jq higgins, Thursday, 12 December 2002 17:03 (twenty-two years ago) link

twenty-two years pass...

Cherry Red had a really cheap deal on a 3CD set of early Shoes material 73-78.
Already reduced plus 20% off during January. So came out at about £8.

Haven't really heard the contents but the band self recorded 3 or 4 lps before they got signed to a larger label.

20% off any old product on Cherry Red label with a code that's on the label website. Until end of month.
So I think might be any non new release product specifically on the sub label of the name.

But half price or less anyway. If the further reduction missed.
I haven't really heard the band and just saw the set on an email the label sent me. Have been aware if the existence of an l.p. called Black Vinyl Shoes for decades. But nor sure to what extent I've heard the band though think what I've heatd has been good.

Stevo, Wednesday, 29 January 2025 08:58 (two days ago) link

I've been wondering: debuting in 1968, were (the) Nazz the last of the "original wave" of power-pop bands? Or the first of the revivalists of the sound? Or were they not part of the genre at all?

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 29 January 2025 16:55 (two days ago) link


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