― Peter M, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 00:17 (twenty-two years ago) link
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― paul cox (paul cox), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 00:23 (twenty-two years ago) link
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― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 00:31 (twenty-two years ago) link
Big Star are the greatest and finest exponents of this thing we call Power Pop, but there are plenty of innovative greats since their brief appearance in the early 70's, from the new wave era, and since in the 80's, 90's and 2000's. Who are they? I'll tell you tomorrow! :)
― Mr Qwerty, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 00:36 (twenty-two years ago) link
You must like power pop to think they are great though, obv.
― webcrack (music=crack), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 00:54 (twenty-two years ago) link
But it's probably just me.
― paul cox (paul cox), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 01:29 (twenty-two years ago) link
but Twice Removed and One Chord to Another? Oh lordy!
― Sean@tangmonkey (Sean M), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 02:58 (twenty-two years ago) link
― A Nairn (moretap), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 03:29 (twenty-two years ago) link
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― msp, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 04:11 (twenty-two years ago) link
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― Lynskey (Lynskey), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 14:04 (twenty-two years ago) link
Matthew Sweet - GirlfriendLemonheads - Come and feel the LemonheadsLemonheads - Its A Shame About RayFountains of Wayne - Fountains of WayneThe Posies - Frosting on the BeaterTeenge Fanclub - Grand PrixTeenge Fanclub - BandwagonesqueTeenge Fanclub - Songs From Northern Britain (The Best Of will be awesome, too)
The first track on Brendan Benson's new album is the best power-pop song I've heard in a while. Very uplifting. Haven't listened to the rest of the rec enough to judge, but I don't think anything matches that one. I always think of Ash as being too trashy to be labelled "power-pop", but their "1977" album is rather good.
If you can only afford one of these recs, make it either "It's a Shame About Ray" or "Grand Prix." The Lemonheads have been written out of history a bit, unfairly in my opinion. That album is very short, but it's so simple and enjoyable, you'll play it to death. It's a fixture on my stereo in the Summer months. And "Grand Prix" is the Fannies' masterpiece. Unspeakably tuneful, with great sloppy guitars. Silver Sun, incidentally, are awful.
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 14:18 (twenty-two years ago) link
Matthew Sweet - I Thought I Knew YouLemonheads - ConfettiTeenge Fanclub - Neil Jung
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 14:20 (twenty-two years ago) link
― doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 14:54 (twenty-two years ago) link
There's a view that if it hadn't been for the Beatles in 1962,or more importantly 1964 (from a US perspective), thenthe western middle class might all be humming Frankie Avalon, Pat Boone, Adam Faith and Shadows songs inthe new millennium. A Sobering thought!
Luckily for us, the Beatles did appear, and so wrote the blueprint for the Pop Song of the latter 20th Century. The seductive sound of two guitars, bass and drums, a clever hooking melody and harmonies is so strong, that to deviate from it, is close to ex-communication from life itself.
Slightly later, but almost at the same time, other British bands, like the Who, the Kinks and the Move, built on the Beatles blueprint with heavier guitars, lyrics beyond the simple love song to mold the sound which the Americans called the British Invasion.
Not content with merely aping this challenge from their old colonial enemies, the Americans in the form of the Byrds (with a nod to the Searchers and Hollies as well as the Beatles), a maturing Beach Boys, the Turtles and a thousand garage bands across the US, took the blueprint and fired it right back at the British to produce a cornucopia of variations on the original style.
It was Pete Townshend that coined the term Power Pop, when asked by a Brit music paper in the late 60's "What type of music do the Who play?", and so by 1969, the term and pretty much the style had been born.
It lay dormant for a period, during which time the Beatles called it a day, songs, hair and guitar solos got much longer and young white men generally discovered the blues, merged it with their pop chops and called it progressive. Woodstock happen, bands got it together in the country, LP's started to sell in the quantities usually reserved for singles, and rock music had arrived as Art.
Meanwhile in 1971/1972, in Memphis, where modern pop music arguably started with Elvis back in the 50's, Alex Chilton, teen hero of the Box Tops and Anglophile Chris Bell hatched a marriage of all that was good that had gone before and came up with Big Star. Released to a world that was not ready for them in 1972 and 1973 respectively, Big Star's first two albums define what we come to know and love about modern Power Pop. A left field slant on 60's pop, big chiming guitars, irresistible hooks, economical solos, the right mix of hard and soft, Chilton's sloppiness married to Bell's exactness. Almost 30 years on it's still close to heaven.
I found my copies of #1 Record and Radio City in a remainder store for 50 pence a piece in the mid 70's - I couldn't believe my luck - it was like I'd found the crown jewels and nobody knew.
Big Star weren't alone, in England there was Badfinger who were at the time tragically overshadowed by their boss labelmates at Apple, then beset by management, financial and later double suicide - but their musical legacy is achingly wonderful. Nick Lowe's band Brinsley Schwarz were alone voice in the 70's pub rock land penning slightly country tinged melodic songs when all around was prog! In the States there was the magnificent Raspberries, who by the time they made the last and greatest album were clouded by their previous teen appeal, but leader Eric Carmen possess one of the finest pop voices of all time.
The Stories, Dirty Angels, Blue Ash and Dwight Twilley were also major shakers working in a similar area in the early to mid 70's.
By the time the punk era came along, the die was cast and Powerpop was subsumed into what journalists called New Wave, but early significant artists would include Chris Stamey and the DB's, The Shoes, The Beat, The Romantics, The Rubinoos, The Paley Brothers, The Knack, 20/20, Pezband The Cars. From England: The Records, The Jags, The Starjets, Squeeze, XTC and The Freshies.
From then on, it kind of explodes, and then we are moving into the realms of another article. The weird thing about all this, is why the classic pop blueprint set by the Beatles all those years ago, although captivating and full of hooks, has apart from one or two exceptions, generally been so unpopular with record buyers? We have to fast-forward many years before the appearance of REM in the 80's and later Britpop in the shape of Oasis and Blur etc in the 90's.
However, Power pop is amazingly alive and well, and for the most part it's still residing in the cult ghetto that has been its home since the early 70's. No matter, the basic elements of classic pop and power pop – lush melodies, big hooks, focused energy, and unabashed enthusiasm – have been handed down through three generations of musicians and endured despite the radical changes in popular music over the same period. Somehow Power Pop seems to always find a way back into our consciousness, usually in conjunction with other kinds of popular music (i.e., disco, grunge) hitting spectacular new lows.
― Mr Qwerty, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 14:55 (twenty-two years ago) link
new power popsters are gripweeds (rainbow quartz) and thomson (poptones) ... the children of teenage fanclub.
but shit, and man alive, please don't forget about velvet crush, from teenage symphonies to god, heavy changes, soft sounds, this rhode island quartet have everything and probably the best drummer on the scene - rick menck, who is presently drumming for the tyde.
― doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 14:57 (twenty-two years ago) link
god, there are so many great power pop records.....like, dunno, VELVET CRUSH, EVERYONE MUST BUY SOFT SOUNDS OR DOWNLOAD IT.
my other favourite is swearing at motorists...
― doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 14:59 (twenty-two years ago) link
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― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 15:21 (twenty-two years ago) link
alfie is good twee pop (twisted nerve, now regal)
― doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 15:26 (twenty-two years ago) link
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― Bill B, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 15:40 (twenty-two years ago) link
add about a thousand dittos on the sloan front, but erm, naysayers are wrong. pretty together is their best album since twice removed. YES IT IS, fuck off OCTA obsessives.
the insomniacs were probably one of my favourite power pop bands. and bangs did a passable live impression of a power pop band. you've really got to be a trio to pull it off successfuly.
― kate, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 15:43 (twenty-two years ago) link
― doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 15:45 (twenty-two years ago) link
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 15:45 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 15:53 (twenty-two years ago) link
You are quite right. Husker Du and Sugar are not power pop-especially Husker Du (and they're NOT emo either if anyone enquires.) Husker Du is more of post-punk/pop punk than anything else. Sugar can strain the line especially on Copper Blue-but Beaster and F.U.E.L. are indie rock. Matthew Sweet (to me) seems to be a good representation of power pop.
― mal2478 (mal2478), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 16:00 (twenty-two years ago) link
― kate, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 16:24 (twenty-two years ago) link
THE LILYS - NANNY IN MANHATTEN!
― doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 16:29 (twenty-two years ago) link
Smeared is utter classic but not pop.
I'd say the The Buzzcocks - Singles Going Steady falls into the hinterland of this catagory.
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 16:58 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Arthur (Arthur), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 17:04 (twenty-two years ago) link
wow, the gripweeds are still together? gah, have supported them several times. i liked them cause they were the only garage band in the NY/NJ area who did not have yet another chick bassist (yers truly included) but a chick LEAD GUITARIST who kicked major ass.
― kate, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 17:16 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 17:19 (twenty-two years ago) link
but lilys and asteroid no.4, no, no, not powerpop. psychedelic garage-pop.
(can you tell how many hours i've spent actually debating this?)
― kate, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 17:19 (twenty-two years ago) link
But frankly, power pop is like a huge fuckin' insult term. It means you don't play strong enough to be rock! Like emo to pop-punk, it's like saying "but yer really wimpy!"
argh! Yancey topped me before I even got this posted! Flamin' Groovies are better. But Sloan are probably the best goin' strong today.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 17:21 (twenty-two years ago) link
― DOOM-E, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 17:24 (twenty-two years ago) link
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― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:11 (twenty-two years ago) link
let's not get personal.....it's just his ass is rather large, and, occassionally the freakshow of his RATHER LARGE ASS
― doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:13 (twenty-two years ago) link
let's not get personal.....it's just his ass is rather large, and, occassionally the freakshow of his RATHER LARGE ASS DOES GET IN THE WAY...
what i am saying is justified, it's absolute rubbish, their back catalogue compared to Velvet Crush.
i mean, the Velvet Crush have Rick Menck for chrissakes, not some fat ass shit from halifax....and the Velvet Crush bath...
but comparing them both, and compare, soft sounds to pretty together, and you will see i have a very valid point!!
― doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:15 (twenty-two years ago) link
― hstencil, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:17 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Chris Mac, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:25 (twenty-two years ago) link
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― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:27 (twenty-two years ago) link
― doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:29 (twenty-two years ago) link
sloan are rubbish as usual, as proven by shocking scientifical observation.
velvet crush still went out and released heavy changes though they were dropped at that time. sloan would not do that. they would live off of cancon money and bitch in the press! because they are rubbish, as usual.
― doom, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:33 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:35 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Chris Mac, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:35 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:36 (twenty-two years ago) link
And Sloan were shocked out of their one-hit rubbishness. Sloan still talk about it!!!!...maybe....shocka....it's not really that good of an album. egos hurt, tour bus taken away, cancon not states money beckons, etc.etc.
Heavy Changes is cool, they did something different and went rock.
― doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:38 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:42 (twenty-two years ago) link
one chord to another, i rate, but the others, no!
it was almost if canada was saying 'no...we will make them the beatles, screw all over you'....
― doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 19:45 (twenty-two years ago) link
i think doomie secretly IS one of chris murphy's ex-girlfriends. aaah, so much makes sense now...
― kate, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:03 (twenty-two years ago) link
― doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:18 (twenty-two years ago) link
http://www.thestrokes.com/photos/1c/1c4.jpg
thinking "duh, even i know that doomie is jealous of chris murphy..."
― kate, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:21 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:24 (twenty-two years ago) link
― kate, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:32 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:32 (twenty-two years ago) link
― DOOM-E, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:41 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:42 (twenty-two years ago) link
http://www.theonion.com/onion3813/record-store_clerks.html
― doomie-eee, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:43 (twenty-two years ago) link
http://www.thestrokes.com/photos/5c/5c13.jpg
― kate, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:49 (twenty-two years ago) link
― doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:50 (twenty-two years ago) link
― kate, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:51 (twenty-two years ago) link
― doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:52 (twenty-two years ago) link
― doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:53 (twenty-two years ago) link
LOOK OUT, CANADIA!!! WATCH OUT, SLOOOOOOO-AN!
― kate, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:54 (twenty-two years ago) link
― doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 20:57 (twenty-two years ago) link
Those Sloan boys are going to be excited about leading the lead roles in the musical "Going Down the Road"
― doom-e, Wednesday, 11 December 2002 21:02 (twenty-two years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Thursday, 12 December 2002 00:07 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Kim (Kim), Thursday, 12 December 2002 01:03 (twenty-two years ago) link
― kate, Thursday, 12 December 2002 01:07 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 12 December 2002 03:24 (twenty-two years ago) link
― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 12 December 2002 13:30 (twenty-two years ago) link
Anthony, do you hate wimps?
― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Thursday, 12 December 2002 13:38 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 12 December 2002 14:08 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 12 December 2002 14:30 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 12 December 2002 14:34 (twenty-two years ago) link
not to say they're a bad band... not really my thing, but I can see why people were into them... just not at all powerpop
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 12 December 2002 14:46 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 12 December 2002 14:52 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 12 December 2002 14:53 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Fritz Wollner (Fritz), Thursday, 12 December 2002 15:03 (twenty-two years ago) link
also would concur on hoodoo gurus, teenage fanclub and brendan benson (who incidentally puts on a pretty good live show).
― jq higgins, Thursday, 12 December 2002 17:03 (twenty-two years ago) link
Cherry Red had a really cheap deal on a 3CD set of early Shoes material 73-78.Already reduced plus 20% off during January. So came out at about £8.
Haven't really heard the contents but the band self recorded 3 or 4 lps before they got signed to a larger label.
20% off any old product on Cherry Red label with a code that's on the label website. Until end of month.So I think might be any non new release product specifically on the sub label of the name.
But half price or less anyway. If the further reduction missed. I haven't really heard the band and just saw the set on an email the label sent me. Have been aware if the existence of an l.p. called Black Vinyl Shoes for decades. But nor sure to what extent I've heard the band though think what I've heatd has been good.
― Stevo, Wednesday, 29 January 2025 08:58 (two days ago) link
I've been wondering: debuting in 1968, were (the) Nazz the last of the "original wave" of power-pop bands? Or the first of the revivalists of the sound? Or were they not part of the genre at all?
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 29 January 2025 16:55 (two days ago) link