Vashti Bunyan/Jackson C Frank

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I'm guessing anyone that knows these artists will probably damn me for putting them together, but I've got into them recently because of the re-packaged "Diamond Day" and "Blues Run The Game" CDs. I love both of them, and Frank's story (if anyone would care to reprint it) is almost farcically tragic. Does anyone know anything about either of them, and is there anything similar that you would recommend?

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 12 December 2002 09:58 (twenty-two years ago)

i got the vashti bunyan album, its ok, but it wasnt as good as i was hoping. dont know the other person

gareth (gareth), Thursday, 12 December 2002 10:02 (twenty-two years ago)

Jackson C Frank was covered by Sandy Denny, Bert Jansch, and Nick Drake among others. His story is fascinating - I found this link just today.


http://www.dirtynelson.com/linen/feature/57frank.html

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Thursday, 12 December 2002 10:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Would you believe the Jackson Frank reissue is available from BMG Music Service. Never thought I'd live to see such a day....

Frank T. Jackson, Friday, 13 December 2002 07:50 (twenty-two years ago)

The song "Blues Run the Game" is superior to anything else on the album (which is respectable, don't get me wrong). Agree or disagree?

Frank T. Jackson, Friday, 13 December 2002 07:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Agree, it's an absolute classic and some of the others are a bit cookie-cutter folkie fare (did I just say use double alliteration)? Some of the later stuff is great, though, very haunting and evocative. I picked it up when I was living in France-there was a lot of renewed interest in him there, but no-one seems to know him in the UK.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 13 December 2002 10:56 (twenty-two years ago)

i only ever heard 2 vashti songs but theyre both real nice

unknown or illegal user (doorag), Friday, 13 December 2002 21:26 (twenty-two years ago)

there's really nothing like the vashti bunyan album. she has a unique voice, and despite having a house full of folk/psych records i can't think of anything that sounds like her.

your null fame (yournullfame), Saturday, 14 December 2002 04:39 (twenty-two years ago)

seven months pass...
I only have her cover of the Stones' Some Things Just Stick In Your Mind. It's on the Decca compilation The Girls' Scene, which is great. It's v.pop but it doesn't surprise me that she did more folky stuff.

David Moore was raving to me about Jackson C. Frank. I just listened to Fairport Convention's cover of You Never Wanted Me. He also gave me Nick Drake's Tanworth in Arden demos, which includes JCF's Here Comes The Blues. V.cunning.

N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 4 August 2003 23:03 (twenty-two years ago)

Love Vashti. That close-mic'ed sound really gets me. Very unique indeed - but certainly not far from the Caterbury / Pentangle / Shirley & Dolly side of things. Still, great.

roger adultery, Tuesday, 5 August 2003 01:17 (twenty-two years ago)

six months pass...
dude nordicskillz!

cozen (Cozen), Monday, 1 March 2004 00:33 (twenty-one years ago)

is jackson c. frank still alive?

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 4 March 2004 00:12 (twenty-one years ago)

no, he died in '99

the surface noise (electricsound), Thursday, 4 March 2004 00:15 (twenty-one years ago)

: (

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 4 March 2004 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

I lost a bet.

cozen (Cozen), Thursday, 4 March 2004 00:16 (twenty-one years ago)

five months pass...
It is a sad story.

adam. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 05:44 (twenty-one years ago)

vashti's version of "some things just stick in your mind" seems very incongruous after you've heard her album..

purple patch (electricsound), Tuesday, 31 August 2004 07:56 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...
There was a Jackson C Frank song in the trailer to the film Brown Bunny that I saw before last night's feature at the indie cinema (Maria Full of Grace, fyi). Does this mean renewed interest in the tragic folkie icon via soundtrack sales? I guess it's doubtful.

Sean Witzman (trip maker), Thursday, 23 September 2004 16:57 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, that is "Milk And Honey". Great song, but yeah, that soundtrack ain't gonna sell at all.

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:04 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought the trailer was pretty cool, though. And I love that song.

Sean Witzman (trip maker), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:17 (twenty-one years ago)

I agree on both counts.

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:18 (twenty-one years ago)

Yes, that is "Milk And Honey". Great song, but yeah, that soundtrack ain't gonna sell at all.
-- adam. (adamr...), September 23rd, 2004.

did he put an image of him getting a BJ from chloe sevigny on the cover?

amateur!!st, Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:31 (twenty-one years ago)

In...Japan?

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

I think.

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:32 (twenty-one years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0000E6YYY.01.LZZZZZZZ.jpg

amateur!!st, Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:35 (twenty-one years ago)

And yet, I still do not feel the urge to buy it at all. Strange.

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 September 2004 17:38 (twenty-one years ago)

i so figured it was you, adam, who resurrected this thread

JaXoN (JasonD), Thursday, 23 September 2004 18:00 (twenty-one years ago)

hahahaha! I thought it would be YOU.

adam. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 23 September 2004 18:03 (twenty-one years ago)

three years pass...

There was a Jackson C Frank song in the trailer to the film Brown Bunny that I saw before last night's feature at the indie cinema (Maria Full of Grace, fyi). Does this mean renewed interest in the tragic folkie icon via soundtrack sales? I guess it's doubtful.

I just got interested in this guy after hearing "Dialogue" in Electroma, so yeah. I'm guessing the 2xCD version of Blues Run the Game on Castle is the one to get?

Telephone thing, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 02:08 (seventeen years ago)

yes. you won't be disappointed. (i've never actually heard the second cd).

the juxtaposition of that song in electroma was even more pertinent because of his life story (being burned - robots burning etc)

jaxon, Wednesday, 27 February 2008 06:14 (seventeen years ago)

five years pass...

Yes, that is "Milk And Honey". Great song, but yeah, that soundtrack ain't gonna sell at all.

The Brown Bunny soundtrack CD goes for about £150 used these days! (I expect it's because the five Frusciante tracks on it have never appeared anywhere else).

I got a 'digitally remastered' 2001 CD of the Jackson C. Frank album (not the double disc), on Castle/Sanctuary Records, and the sound seems pretty seriously off - some majorly distorted peaks when he sings a little louder.

Does anyone have the double disc? Is the issue there on all versions of this album?

Walter Galt, Thursday, 7 March 2013 14:07 (twelve years ago)

Huh. Just digging around (which I should have done before one-clicking the frigging thing), both the version I bought and the two disc version are on Castle/Sanctuary, but even listening to the samples on Amazon's site the two disc one sounds better.

Walter Galt, Thursday, 7 March 2013 14:28 (twelve years ago)

one month passes...

Blues Run The Game is such an incredible song

I will forlornly return to my home planet soon (dandydonweiner), Friday, 26 April 2013 01:47 (twelve years ago)

yup.

i guess i'd just rather listen to canned heat? (ian), Friday, 26 April 2013 02:04 (twelve years ago)

one year passes...

long piece about jackson c frank - http://www.vqronline.org/essays-articles/2015/01/snowfall-blues

just sayin, Thursday, 19 February 2015 11:17 (ten years ago)

Wow, incredibly well written, thanks. I knew the outline of that story but nowhere near that amount of detail.

Life During Hammertime (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 19 February 2015 11:55 (ten years ago)

*bump*
For those who may have missed.

Mon-El in the Middle (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 21 February 2015 21:19 (ten years ago)

Great article, could've left the last bit for her diary though...

rabatment of the rectangle (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Saturday, 21 February 2015 21:20 (ten years ago)

one month passes...

Ba Da Bing! has just announced a complete Frank boxset and new biography.

http://www.badabingrecords.com/jackson-c-frank-the-complete-recordings-track-listing/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 2 April 2015 17:11 (ten years ago)

!!!

tylerw, Thursday, 2 April 2015 17:17 (ten years ago)

two years pass...

Delayed, but I finally got said biography (having gotten the 3 CD set at the time). It's a hair choppy at points -- as with so many books these days, it really needed a stronger editorial once-over to prevent repetition and how some things are mentioned briefly and then only explained in full much later. But given Jim Abbott's role as the guy who essentially got him out of the weird hell he was in in NYC for a decade, and then his role as legal guardian in the final years of Frank's life, probably he's the only person who had both the connection to the subject as well as just enough distance in turn.

The role of Paul Simon in Frank's life as detailed in the book is truly headscratching at points. (As is Art Garfunkel's.)

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 4 June 2017 15:55 (eight years ago)

How so on the Simon thing?

campreverb, Sunday, 4 June 2017 17:15 (eight years ago)

three years pass...

«Marlene» is a pretty tough listen knowing the backstory, which I never knew until just now

Mule, Monday, 29 June 2020 10:51 (five years ago)

yeah beautiful but very painful

making gazebo money (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 29 June 2020 10:57 (five years ago)

MAGNIFICENT song, it must be said

Mule, Monday, 29 June 2020 11:02 (five years ago)

«My friends in the bars, hell they only see the scars
And they do not give a damn, they do not give a damn that I loved you
I don't know why, but once you've seen the sky
You think you know all birds are lovely»

Mule, Monday, 29 June 2020 11:02 (five years ago)

John Hawkes does a cover of that in Martha Marcy May Marlene and I remember thinking "oh no, you should not be touching this song."

making gazebo money (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 29 June 2020 11:12 (five years ago)

Liked that movie, including Hawkes’ playing and singing. But yeah, agree they could have dropped doing that one (can’t actually remember he played exactly that song).

Mule, Monday, 29 June 2020 14:00 (five years ago)

secondhand copies of the abbott book, which is out of print, start at $85 ? fuck that

budo jeru, Monday, 29 June 2020 16:07 (five years ago)

one month passes...

According to Wikipedia, Jackson C. Frank had two children with model Elaine Sedgwick. The son died and the daughter's name is Angeline. What's known of her? Are royalties passed to his daughter, is his estate now hers? Jackson's music has recently been covered by well-known acts (Chromatics, Daft Punk, TV Series This Is Us...). I'm just wondering if the awful luck of this great man can be somehow compensated by his daughter at least receiving what he never got during his lifetime.

chinchilla, Monday, 10 August 2020 03:13 (five years ago)

two years pass...

Me and room service, baby.

Because the Nighttoad (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 30 April 2023 16:48 (two years ago)

Life of sin

ian, Sunday, 30 April 2023 17:52 (two years ago)

I heard a really good podcast interview with Vashti about a month ago. Think it was C86.
Left me wondering if her son was the motorbike riding chainsaw juggler with cirque de soleil who needed to be replaced or deputised when a friend was in the Edinburgh festival office looking for a job. But not sure of timeline. Seems to be what he was doing at one point anyway.

Stevo, Sunday, 30 April 2023 19:46 (two years ago)

if her son was the what?

W E F L Y T O G E T H E R (Austin), Sunday, 30 April 2023 20:04 (two years ago)

a performing role in a Canadian visual circus he was in. He had apparently been an automotive mechanical whizz from a very early age. I think Vashti gave more of an indication that it might have been him which was a story I'd heard back at the time I was in Edinburgh prior tp coming to Ireland for the first time with a couple of people I knew there that summer. Think this other persoin came back to the crashpad and told us about this on the same day it had happened. Him looking for a way to make a couple of quid and maybe get into a show and turning down this role.

Stevo, Sunday, 30 April 2023 20:11 (two years ago)

well when vashti is your mum, i suppose such things just... are.

W E F L Y T O G E T H E R (Austin), Sunday, 30 April 2023 20:17 (two years ago)

I do love the Sanctuary set of Jackson C Frank recordings since it had later material included. First lp is pretty classic but I think the early 70s stuff may have been more desolate. NOt listened to it in a while but I think I found it pretty moving at the time I got the set.
But that first lp is pretty necessary if one hasn't heard it.

He dated Sandy Denny in the mid 60s and bits of North Star Grassman are about him, which I assume is already known

Stevo, Monday, 1 May 2023 10:07 (two years ago)


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