C/D--Nine Inch Nails

Trent is somewhat of a confused popist I think. For the Fragile, he seemed to try and apply some of his "industrial" ways to forms other then hard rock. The problem was, he took his persona and angst and gothitude instead of his phat synth beats.

A completely insightful comment. Trent is a frustrated popsmith trapped in a scowling industrial cyberpunk's bodyarmour. I, for one, would love it if he completely pulled the 180 he's been threatening and came out with an unapologetic pop record that completely dropped all the sci-fi/angst/bondage/goth shenanigans. Let his former protogee, Marilyn Manson, milk that particular cow dry while Trent could take on Timbaland and the Neptunes as THE inventive producer to be reckoned with.

I always get that feeling that he's still got this potential for a really incredible album, although I confess my hopes sorta wavered after the Fragile. It had the sound of someone falling out of touch with reality, which is always what brings down the Great Big Artists (unless they're out of touch to begin with, like Madonna).

And what the fuck is with the "halo #" thing? I never got that.

The halo thing is just numbering his releases. I think it's a savvy play to the hardcore among his fan base, like my freaky friends.

This particular drunk story mentioned up there some took place at Bethany College, like 20 miles north of Wheeling I think. I dunno, I'm from Steubenville OH, right across the river from Weirton WV, and Bethany was like a 30 minute drive south.

And while I'm not too excited over With Teeth, I am hyped up about the upcoming DFA remix. Woo!

Got out my copy of The Fragile the other day. Most of that album is really not good! And what drove me up the wall wasn't just lyrics, it was the way the songs were so calculated, structurally - so predictable - verse, chorus, verse, repeat, add sound layer, add sound layer, add sound layer, add singsong refrain, drop them all out, blast of everything at once, repeat.

Overall, I still like the Fragile a lot despite its flaws.

I find that this doesn't bother me on the really great tracks, however, notably throughout The Downward Spiral.

Dude, I've lived in the States for 3 years. [pats head]. Who knew?

that may have been a warning sign, I think.

I agree that Fixed was better than Broken but I large chunks of The Fragile were fantastic. Maybe I'm just very easy to entertain but "The Wretched", "The Fragile", "We're In This Together Now" and "Into The Void" rank up there among my favorite Trent songs.

Pretty Hate Machine is still amazingly innovative, even if its sound is dated at this point.

:::splutter:::;

WHAT? Ministry and Skinny Puppy might vociferously dispute that.

xpost sic was that Big Day Out? i saw them at the Melb BDO that year

yah in Sydney, and it was Joe Strummer & the Mescaleros (sideshow in a 1200 cap venue) that I went to catch the encore of instead

I really wish I’d followed my gut and seen them in my early 20s; my days of shows like this are probably done

stfu and buy a pit ticket & get there in time to be on the barrier with yr back to the main stage imo

(lol I had to bring a second phone with the ticketmaster app just to get in, but then there was no 5G in the VIP entrance I got redirected to bcz of overcrowding, so I had to queue half an hour at a desk to have a gif generated and then get a url for it texted to another phone so I could get back in the main queue and get scanned, so I was on the side instead. take my advice as sincere.)

I don’t know where they were playing in your early 20s but this was approx. my sixth arena show ever

Full official video for this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnMyroAH0rg

The floor seats directly behind Stage B were pretty great, imo. Visibility to the main stage is hit or miss depending on how tall people in front of you are, but I was to the left of B about six rows back and the experience of everything on that stage was great.

There were people in their 40s/50s there with their kids scattered throughout and they were not the oldest there.

I was there last night and it was awesome. The visuals are pretty amazing - one in particular is likely to be appreciated if you're near the front because it looks like a whole bunch of life-size Trent Reznors are replicated many times and shown around the stage. (Looks like the trick was done via the layers of curtains, but from afar, it wasn't clear they were projections of Reznor until later - they initially looked like slivers of light.)

more than a few videos on my social media feeds of the Barclays show tonight and god I wish I was there

I was super impressed with the 3d looking visuals from my seat approx. 1 million miles away from the stage.

third NIN show i've seen and easily the best. the subtle rearrangements of the vast majority of the songs made them feel so new and alive to me. the dj set in the middle just about made me die and go to heaven

I admit the more the tour goes on and I hear reports like this the more I semi-regret missing it (I say semi because 1) I have seen them at least six times over the decades and 2) it was up against Blood Incantation, who I had never seen and really wanted to, and they put on a mighty fine show). But yesterday I did enjoy rocking my January 1991 vintage LA-only shirt from a short stint opening for a Jane's Addiction stand plus a standalone show that month -- the starpower was evident even then.

also i took my mom, she's 73 :))))

xpost, yeah, I've seen em three times over the years. Once I saw the ticket price I said my official stance was "I've seen em already" but I may grab night-of last-minute-bail tix for the L.A. show if they are a normal price. I still can't reconcile "everyone is unemployed right now" with "every show is $600 and sold out immediately" but here we are.

I def sprung for Future Ruins tickets though, so I'll get my Trent and Atticus fix this year

so other than Ivy, who’s already given her answer, for those who have seen them on this tour and isn’t their first time, how does this compare to past times you’ve seen them?

also was thrilled that we got a super funky dj-fucked version of "sin" last night, my goodness

may be conflating "best nin show i've seen" with "gayest nin show i've seen"

trent reznor saw the "she should be in the club" meme and thought it was about him

I was looking up some NIN trivia the other day and was a little agog that “March of the Pigs” made the top 10 on the Billboard dance chart. But I do remember a lot of “industrial dance nights” in that era, so I guess not that much of a stretch.

The remix on the single was in 4/4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJsMKy-r1Zo

I kept thinking of a tweet I saw a long time back about "the 10% of people who are at the sex club just for the music" when I saw the St. Paul show

so other than Ivy, who’s already given her answer, for those who have seen them on this tour and isn’t their first time, how does this compare to past times you’ve seen them?

better in every conceivable way compared to the first and only other time that I saw them, which was the with teeth tour iirc. loved the DS-heavy setlist, the tweaked arrangements generally sounded great, and they figured out a way to make a big stadium show visuals actually look cool, which couldn't have been easy. great show!

xxetcp is Trent Reznor gay

for me, specifically

The remix on the single was in 4/4

That would help for sure.

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i’ve never read an interview or anything about this but i’ve written more than a few posts on ILM about how the text of pretty hate machine is pretty much “damn i really want a guy to fuck me, sounds cool”

watching the visual elements of this show i wondered if trent had seen and become obsessed with the recent broadway run of andrew lloyd weber’s sunset boulevard

Trent getting into recent broadway shows? Must be working on finishing that EGOT collection

jukebox musicals are generally corny and bad but I would watch the shit out of a NIN jukebox musical

Year Zero is practically a musical soundtrack already

Was going to say.

trent absolutely has a musical in him - from our lips to god’s ears let’s make this happen

omg can u even imagine how awesome that wd be

So yeah, great show. That’s how you do an arena show. They sounded great and seemed to be having a blast, the setlist rocked, the lights and staging were simultaneously stripped down and grandiose — minimalist maximalism. (Opted to close my eyes a few times during the intense flashing.) Ending with Head Like a Hole and Hurt felt almost like the closing of a religious service.

yeah, only once did I have to shield my eyes from the flashing strobe lights, forgot which song it was during but yeah that was a bit too much, esp for the aforementioned granny in my row

loved how he kept jumping around from stage to stage, I really dig how it helped him unveil different intensities of performance. the solo piano opener led into a few songs with a band in the middle of the floor that were pretty good but just a kind of warm-up, then bam! he hits you at the end of the floor with a bigger stage, the soundsystem booming, the huge video screens and we're off. the mid-set remix break with Boys Noize was also fucking sick, especially Closer and the new song. didn't realize there would be no encore so the ending on Hurt was pretty dramatic and abrupt.

it looks like my wish for a set that’s just the mid-set B-stage remix break is happening, but it’s going to be at Coachella?

nine inch noize

so other than Ivy, who’s already given her answer, for those who have seen them on this tour and isn’t their first time, how does this compare to past times you’ve seen them?

better than the last time a few years ago. probably better than the Outside tour but that was a substandard venue and Bowie was the real draw there for me. Not as good as the Downward Spiral show I saw but that was in a theater venue and it was fucking intense. So, you know, it was very very very good.

Envious you were able to hit that many!

The opportunity to see a NIN tour has never lined up well for me with the exception of the With Teeth tour, which was a lot of fun and I was able to be on a not-packed floor but it was a pretty straightforward band on stage affair. The Peel It Back staging was a welcome change and the opening dj set plus stage b bits really tweaked the vibe. sweatier? filthier? something like that

NIN Tron soundtrack is out there, anyone heard it yet?

maaaaybe

it's very much a score with only a few nin songs, and the score is unfortunately fairly forgettable

like, it's not the challengers score, sadly

need to listen again, but I'd mostly agree. the single was good, there are a couple instrumentals that are good, and the other songs with vocals kind of go either way

I like it, more of a grower I suspect and one where I'd guess it clicks more with the visuals, if you will. But Reznor/Ross remain great with mood pieces and while "Alive As You Need Me To Be" is pretty clearly the keeper from the whole thing I appreciated how they leaned into it by reworking the core parts for other pieces throughout.

This is what Broadway folks call an “eleven o’clock number”:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ExIp--YRB9E

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/11_o%27clock_number

As Alive.. is a BANGER

i really like this but like i would love dark side of the moon if it was “on the run” 10x so

“i know you can feel it” is incredible