― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 20 December 2002 13:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 December 2002 15:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 20 December 2002 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)
― Queen G (Queeng), Friday, 20 December 2002 17:06 (twenty-two years ago)
― dyson (dyson), Friday, 20 December 2002 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)
― maria b (maria b), Friday, 20 December 2002 18:11 (twenty-two years ago)
Trent is somewhat of a confused popist I think. For the Fragile, he seemed to try and apply some of his "industrial" ways to forms other then hard rock. The problem was, he took his persona and angst and gothitude instead of his phat synth beats.
― bnw (bnw), Friday, 20 December 2002 18:59 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 20 December 2002 19:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Friday, 20 December 2002 19:25 (twenty-two years ago)
A completely insightful comment. Trent is a frustrated popsmith trapped in a scowling industrial cyberpunk's bodyarmour. I, for one, would love it if he completely pulled the 180 he's been threatening and came out with an unapologetic pop record that completely dropped all the sci-fi/angst/bondage/goth shenanigans. Let his former protogee, Marilyn Manson, milk that particular cow dry while Trent could take on Timbaland and the Neptunes as THE inventive producer to be reckoned with.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 20 December 2002 20:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Melissa W (Melissa W), Friday, 20 December 2002 20:18 (twenty-two years ago)
I always get that feeling that he's still got this potential for a really incredible album, although I confess my hopes sorta wavered after the Fragile. It had the sound of someone falling out of touch with reality, which is always what brings down the Great Big Artists (unless they're out of touch to begin with, like Madonna).
― Dan I., Friday, 20 December 2002 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)
― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Friday, 20 December 2002 22:22 (twenty-two years ago)
― Dan I., Saturday, 21 December 2002 03:20 (twenty-two years ago)
And what the fuck is with the "halo #" thing? I never got that.
― Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Saturday, 21 December 2002 04:21 (twenty-two years ago)
The halo thing is just numbering his releases. I think it's a savvy play to the hardcore among his fan base, like my freaky friends.
― Dan I., Saturday, 21 December 2002 04:31 (twenty-two years ago)
― Vinnie (vprabhu), Saturday, 21 December 2002 04:35 (twenty-two years ago)
― bnw (bnw), Saturday, 21 December 2002 06:58 (twenty-two years ago)
― Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Saturday, 21 December 2002 07:07 (twenty-two years ago)
― Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Saturday, 21 December 2002 07:13 (twenty-two years ago)
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, 21 December 2002 18:21 (twenty-two years ago)
― daria g, Sunday, 22 December 2002 04:28 (twenty-two years ago)
This particular drunk story mentioned up there some took place at Bethany College, like 20 miles north of Wheeling I think. I dunno, I'm from Steubenville OH, right across the river from Weirton WV, and Bethany was like a 30 minute drive south.
― Helltime Producto (Pavlik), Sunday, 22 December 2002 07:52 (twenty-two years ago)
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Sunday, 22 December 2002 08:05 (twenty-two years ago)
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Sunday, 22 December 2002 21:38 (twenty-two years ago)
― daria g, Monday, 23 December 2002 01:02 (twenty-two years ago)
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 27 March 2005 01:19 (twenty years ago)
― milton parker (Jon L), Sunday, 27 March 2005 02:47 (twenty years ago)
― Trayce (trayce), Sunday, 27 March 2005 02:59 (twenty years ago)
And while I'm not too excited over With Teeth, I am hyped up about the upcoming DFA remix. Woo!
― Telephonething, Sunday, 27 March 2005 03:41 (twenty years ago)
― phil jones (interstar), Sunday, 27 March 2005 03:45 (twenty years ago)
― Simon H. (Simon H.), Sunday, 27 March 2005 09:46 (twenty years ago)
Got out my copy of The Fragile the other day. Most of that album is really not good! And what drove me up the wall wasn't just lyrics, it was the way the songs were so calculated, structurally - so predictable - verse, chorus, verse, repeat, add sound layer, add sound layer, add sound layer, add singsong refrain, drop them all out, blast of everything at once, repeat.
― daria g (daria g), Monday, 28 March 2005 00:54 (twenty years ago)
Overall, I still like the Fragile a lot despite its flaws.
― latebloomer: AKA Sir Teddy Ruxpin, Former Scientologist (latebloomer), Monday, 28 March 2005 02:20 (twenty years ago)
― donut debonair (donut), Monday, 28 March 2005 02:27 (twenty years ago)
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 28 March 2005 02:38 (twenty years ago)
I find that this doesn't bother me on the really great tracks, however, notably throughout The Downward Spiral.
― Richard K (Richard K), Monday, 28 March 2005 03:29 (twenty years ago)
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 28 March 2005 04:15 (twenty years ago)
― Simon H. (Simon H.), Monday, 28 March 2005 04:22 (twenty years ago)
― f--gg (gcannon), Monday, 28 March 2005 04:23 (twenty years ago)
― Leeeter van den Hoogenband (Leee), Monday, 28 March 2005 04:55 (twenty years ago)
― Richard K (Richard K), Monday, 28 March 2005 05:34 (twenty years ago)
Dude, I've lived in the States for 3 years. [pats head]. Who knew?
― VegemiteGrrl (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 28 March 2005 06:26 (twenty years ago)
that may have been a warning sign, I think.
― John Justen (johnjusten), Monday, 28 March 2005 06:40 (twenty years ago)
― John Justen (johnjusten), Monday, 28 March 2005 06:42 (twenty years ago)
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 28 March 2005 14:27 (twenty years ago)
I agree that Fixed was better than Broken but I large chunks of The Fragile were fantastic. Maybe I'm just very easy to entertain but "The Wretched", "The Fragile", "We're In This Together Now" and "Into The Void" rank up there among my favorite Trent songs.
― The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, 28 March 2005 14:35 (twenty years ago)
Pretty Hate Machine is still amazingly innovative, even if its sound is dated at this point.
― cdwill, Monday, 28 March 2005 14:36 (twenty years ago)
:::splutter:::;
WHAT? Ministry and Skinny Puppy might vociferously dispute that.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 28 March 2005 14:39 (twenty years ago)
― Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 28 March 2005 14:43 (twenty years ago)
They’ve also played The Fragile a few times.
― Nancy Makes Posts (sic), Monday, 25 August 2025 03:02 (two weeks ago)
i'm seeing all these clips my friends are sharing from the show last night and really regret not going.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, 25 August 2025 04:05 (two weeks ago)
imo the back half of With Teeth is like a concentrated version of The Fragile without the bloat but this might be controversial
― slowly imploding (mh), Monday, 25 August 2025 14:24 (two weeks ago)
I forgot to mention, there was a guy in my row at the show who brought his grandma, I am still thinking about this as much as the show itself
― Murgatroid, Tuesday, 26 August 2025 00:13 (one week ago)
Holy shit. Just got back from the show in Baltimore. Fucking fantastic.
― circa1916, Wednesday, 27 August 2025 03:29 (one week ago)
xpost -- I mean...Trent turned 60 this year. Are you sure she wasn't the fan?
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 27 August 2025 03:35 (one week ago)
I love Reptile, but I did not expect that to be the heaviest goddamn song of the night. Friend who had pit tickets said the pit exploded on that one.
Glad we got Perfect Drug. Josh Freese destroyed the arena with that solo.
― circa1916, Wednesday, 27 August 2025 04:48 (one week ago)
Played Somewhat Damaged in full, which was also mean as fuck. My favorite song on The Fragile tbh.
Awesome Boys Noize mixed version of Closer on the B Stage.
Head Like a Hole the only PHM song they played, finale before Hurt. Crowd erupted for it with a light show to match.
― circa1916, Wednesday, 27 August 2025 04:58 (one week ago)
xxp she was like 70-80 years old at least I think, trust me I would not bat an eye at a 60 year old at the show
― Murgatroid, Wednesday, 27 August 2025 11:38 (one week ago)
crowdsurfing Santa (in August) makes Trent laughhttps://www.tiktok.com/@nik64593/video/7543686425628200222
― StanM, Friday, 29 August 2025 21:59 (one week ago)
I’ve been enjoying that one! It’s even funnierthat he’s not rolling his eyes as a jaded long-term large concert guy and seems genuinely disrupted
― slowly imploding (mh), Saturday, 30 August 2025 03:30 (one week ago)
it does seem like the santa kind of ran out of crowd and and ate shit as he dropped, which is also funny
I feel less terrible since the crowdsurfer got up and was fine, but I cracked up many years ago when a crowdsurfer ran into a guy in front of me, absolute unit of a man, and probably at least 6’3” was not into boosting anyone. The guy soaring over the crowd basically brick walled into this guy’s chest and dropped
― slowly imploding (mh), Saturday, 30 August 2025 03:34 (one week ago)
Seeing NIN this weekend for the first time, pretty psyched! I'm going with my brother and sister-in-law, they're both much bigger fans than me, they've seen them many times. (This will actually be my SIL's second time seeing them this tour.)
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 03:35 (five days ago)
my only previous time was twenty-five years ago on an afternoon slot at a festival, where the vibe was so off I bailed to a tin shed to re-see an act I’d already caught at their sideshow two days before
you’ve made a good choice imo
― Nancy Makes Posts (sic), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 04:44 (five days ago)
that same santa dude was also at the oasis show on monday.
― BringTheAuBonPain, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 05:24 (five days ago)
xpost sic was that Big Day Out? i saw them at the Melb BDO that year
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 05:42 (five days ago)
yah in Sydney, and it was Joe Strummer & the Mescaleros (sideshow in a 1200 cap venue) that I went to catch the encore of instead
― Nancy Makes Posts (sic), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 08:14 (five days ago)
I really wish I’d followed my gut and seen them in my early 20s; my days of shows like this are probably done
― Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 08:22 (five days ago)
stfu and buy a pit ticket & get there in time to be on the barrier with yr back to the main stage imo
(lol I had to bring a second phone with the ticketmaster app just to get in, but then there was no 5G in the VIP entrance I got redirected to bcz of overcrowding, so I had to queue half an hour at a desk to have a gif generated and then get a url for it texted to another phone so I could get back in the main queue and get scanned, so I was on the side instead. take my advice as sincere.)
― Nancy Makes Posts (sic), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 08:40 (five days ago)
I don’t know where they were playing in your early 20s but this was approx. my sixth arena show ever
― Nancy Makes Posts (sic), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 08:43 (five days ago)
Full official video for this one:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SnMyroAH0rg
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 17:14 (five days ago)
The floor seats directly behind Stage B were pretty great, imo. Visibility to the main stage is hit or miss depending on how tall people in front of you are, but I was to the left of B about six rows back and the experience of everything on that stage was great.
There were people in their 40s/50s there with their kids scattered throughout and they were not the oldest there.
― slowly imploding (mh), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 18:59 (five days ago)
I was there last night and it was awesome. The visuals are pretty amazing - one in particular is likely to be appreciated if you're near the front because it looks like a whole bunch of life-size Trent Reznors are replicated many times and shown around the stage. (Looks like the trick was done via the layers of curtains, but from afar, it wasn't clear they were projections of Reznor until later - they initially looked like slivers of light.)
― birdistheword, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 22:27 (five days ago)
more than a few videos on my social media feeds of the Barclays show tonight and god I wish I was there
― Murgatroid, Thursday, 4 September 2025 04:11 (four days ago)
I was super impressed with the 3d looking visuals from my seat approx. 1 million miles away from the stage.
― ledge, Thursday, 4 September 2025 07:24 (four days ago)
third NIN show i've seen and easily the best. the subtle rearrangements of the vast majority of the songs made them feel so new and alive to me. the dj set in the middle just about made me die and go to heaven
― ivy., Thursday, 4 September 2025 14:49 (four days ago)
I admit the more the tour goes on and I hear reports like this the more I semi-regret missing it (I say semi because 1) I have seen them at least six times over the decades and 2) it was up against Blood Incantation, who I had never seen and really wanted to, and they put on a mighty fine show). But yesterday I did enjoy rocking my January 1991 vintage LA-only shirt from a short stint opening for a Jane's Addiction stand plus a standalone show that month -- the starpower was evident even then.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 4 September 2025 15:14 (four days ago)
also i took my mom, she's 73 :))))
― ivy., Thursday, 4 September 2025 15:15 (four days ago)
xpost, yeah, I've seen em three times over the years. Once I saw the ticket price I said my official stance was "I've seen em already" but I may grab night-of last-minute-bail tix for the L.A. show if they are a normal price. I still can't reconcile "everyone is unemployed right now" with "every show is $600 and sold out immediately" but here we are.
I def sprung for Future Ruins tickets though, so I'll get my Trent and Atticus fix this year
― drink my spicy beet diarrhea (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 4 September 2025 15:57 (four days ago)
so other than Ivy, who’s already given her answer, for those who have seen them on this tour and isn’t their first time, how does this compare to past times you’ve seen them?
― Murgatroid, Thursday, 4 September 2025 16:15 (four days ago)
also was thrilled that we got a super funky dj-fucked version of "sin" last night, my goodness
― ivy., Thursday, 4 September 2025 17:38 (four days ago)
may be conflating "best nin show i've seen" with "gayest nin show i've seen"
― ivy., Thursday, 4 September 2025 17:39 (four days ago)
trent reznor saw the "she should be in the club" meme and thought it was about him
― ivy., Thursday, 4 September 2025 17:41 (four days ago)
I was looking up some NIN trivia the other day and was a little agog that “March of the Pigs” made the top 10 on the Billboard dance chart. But I do remember a lot of “industrial dance nights” in that era, so I guess not that much of a stretch.
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 4 September 2025 18:52 (four days ago)
The remix on the single was in 4/4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJsMKy-r1Zo
― drink my spicy beet diarrhea (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 4 September 2025 19:17 (four days ago)
I kept thinking of a tweet I saw a long time back about "the 10% of people who are at the sex club just for the music" when I saw the St. Paul show
― slowly imploding (mh), Thursday, 4 September 2025 19:23 (four days ago)
better in every conceivable way compared to the first and only other time that I saw them, which was the with teeth tour iirc. loved the DS-heavy setlist, the tweaked arrangements generally sounded great, and they figured out a way to make a big stadium show visuals actually look cool, which couldn't have been easy. great show!
― (⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Thursday, 4 September 2025 19:31 (four days ago)
xxetcp is Trent Reznor gay
― Murgatroid, Thursday, 4 September 2025 19:38 (four days ago)
for me, specifically
That would help for sure.
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 4 September 2025 19:48 (four days ago)
is Trent Reznor gay
― Murgatroid, Thursday, September 4, 2025 3:38 PM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
i’ve never read an interview or anything about this but i’ve written more than a few posts on ILM about how the text of pretty hate machine is pretty much “damn i really want a guy to fuck me, sounds cool”
― ivy., Thursday, 4 September 2025 20:03 (four days ago)
watching the visual elements of this show i wondered if trent had seen and become obsessed with the recent broadway run of andrew lloyd weber’s sunset boulevard
― ivy., Thursday, 4 September 2025 20:09 (four days ago)
Trent getting into recent broadway shows? Must be working on finishing that EGOT collection
― slowly imploding (mh), Thursday, 4 September 2025 20:59 (four days ago)
jukebox musicals are generally corny and bad but I would watch the shit out of a NIN jukebox musical
― Murgatroid, Thursday, 4 September 2025 21:33 (four days ago)
Year Zero is practically a musical soundtrack already
― our beloved RIFF LORD (DJP), Friday, 5 September 2025 00:04 (three days ago)
Was going to say.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 5 September 2025 00:08 (three days ago)
trent absolutely has a musical in him - from our lips to god’s ears let’s make this happen
omg can u even imagine how awesome that wd be
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 5 September 2025 01:42 (three days ago)
So yeah, great show. That’s how you do an arena show. They sounded great and seemed to be having a blast, the setlist rocked, the lights and staging were simultaneously stripped down and grandiose — minimalist maximalism. (Opted to close my eyes a few times during the intense flashing.) Ending with Head Like a Hole and Hurt felt almost like the closing of a religious service.
― paper plans (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 7 September 2025 13:03 (yesterday)
yeah, only once did I have to shield my eyes from the flashing strobe lights, forgot which song it was during but yeah that was a bit too much, esp for the aforementioned granny in my row
― Murgatroid, Sunday, 7 September 2025 14:33 (yesterday)
loved how he kept jumping around from stage to stage, I really dig how it helped him unveil different intensities of performance. the solo piano opener led into a few songs with a band in the middle of the floor that were pretty good but just a kind of warm-up, then bam! he hits you at the end of the floor with a bigger stage, the soundsystem booming, the huge video screens and we're off. the mid-set remix break with Boys Noize was also fucking sick, especially Closer and the new song. didn't realize there would be no encore so the ending on Hurt was pretty dramatic and abrupt.
― Evans on Hammond (evol j), Sunday, 7 September 2025 15:41 (yesterday)