C/D--Nine Inch Nails

Trent is somewhat of a confused popist I think. For the Fragile, he seemed to try and apply some of his "industrial" ways to forms other then hard rock. The problem was, he took his persona and angst and gothitude instead of his phat synth beats.

A completely insightful comment. Trent is a frustrated popsmith trapped in a scowling industrial cyberpunk's bodyarmour. I, for one, would love it if he completely pulled the 180 he's been threatening and came out with an unapologetic pop record that completely dropped all the sci-fi/angst/bondage/goth shenanigans. Let his former protogee, Marilyn Manson, milk that particular cow dry while Trent could take on Timbaland and the Neptunes as THE inventive producer to be reckoned with.

I always get that feeling that he's still got this potential for a really incredible album, although I confess my hopes sorta wavered after the Fragile. It had the sound of someone falling out of touch with reality, which is always what brings down the Great Big Artists (unless they're out of touch to begin with, like Madonna).

And what the fuck is with the "halo #" thing? I never got that.

The halo thing is just numbering his releases. I think it's a savvy play to the hardcore among his fan base, like my freaky friends.

This particular drunk story mentioned up there some took place at Bethany College, like 20 miles north of Wheeling I think. I dunno, I'm from Steubenville OH, right across the river from Weirton WV, and Bethany was like a 30 minute drive south.

And while I'm not too excited over With Teeth, I am hyped up about the upcoming DFA remix. Woo!

Got out my copy of The Fragile the other day. Most of that album is really not good! And what drove me up the wall wasn't just lyrics, it was the way the songs were so calculated, structurally - so predictable - verse, chorus, verse, repeat, add sound layer, add sound layer, add sound layer, add singsong refrain, drop them all out, blast of everything at once, repeat.

Overall, I still like the Fragile a lot despite its flaws.

I find that this doesn't bother me on the really great tracks, however, notably throughout The Downward Spiral.

Dude, I've lived in the States for 3 years. [pats head]. Who knew?

that may have been a warning sign, I think.

I agree that Fixed was better than Broken but I large chunks of The Fragile were fantastic. Maybe I'm just very easy to entertain but "The Wretched", "The Fragile", "We're In This Together Now" and "Into The Void" rank up there among my favorite Trent songs.

Pretty Hate Machine is still amazingly innovative, even if its sound is dated at this point.

:::splutter:::;

WHAT? Ministry and Skinny Puppy might vociferously dispute that.

they're playing barclays yuck!!! but i'll try to be there assuming ticket prices aren't exorbitant (i'm guessing they will be)

I do like how there's no presales

no codes to sign up/scour the internet for, none of that annoying shit, everyone just hammer Ticketmaster all at once

yeah I saw them a few years back and had to go in person to get paper tickets which was novel but also stupid. This seems better. I don't love they're playing the enormous stupid Oracle Arena in Oakland but I'm looking forward to this. I just wish tickets weren't going on sale the same time as like a dozen other things.

Seattle, Salt Lake City, and Denver all equidistant from me (90-120 minutes on a plane) but is this a greatest hits tour or is there new music coming?

I hate arena gigs but am seriously considering this

The tour title suggests it's a greatest hits - otoh their upcoming score for the new tron film "will feature new Nine Inch Nail songs".

they announced hesitation marks way after they started announcing 2013 tour dates so i wouldn't rule out something like that happening again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4sUq-ftzgc

this was so good

Excited about a chance to see them again, not excited about how much this will cost, especially with bullshit fees included. I assume I will wait until the week before and try to get cheap(er) tickets then.

that's always a gamble.

Already dreading Wednesday

I feel like everything surrounding this will be expensive and stressful as hell, but, NIN though.

I’ve always wanted to see them live and never have.

I’m at best a casual fan but my brother is a huge fan who’s seen them 4 times, and we go to the Nashville show together if we can work out logistics. Definitely seems like a band worth seeing.

I've seen them a bunch, enough that the last time I saw them I just sort of took it for granted, so if I don't see them this time it won't be the end of the world for me. Ticket buying in the US is so fraught and corrupt that I just really can't be bothered to jump through more than the most minimal of stressful hoops.

Haven't seen a NIN show since 1999 when they toured for The Fragilé. Tempted by this but really can't be paying like $200+ (as if, these are going to be $500-1000 tickets aren't they) on a concert right now.

I saw them at Lollapalooza (well, heard them, and saw a giant cloud of dry ice emanating from the stage area while I was in line for food) and on the Fragility 2.0 tour. I like 21st century NIN music better than 20th century NIN music, but I don't know how many songs from The Slip or even Hesitation Marks, never mind the recent EPs, are likely to make it into a hockey-arena greatest-hits set.

I saw them in 2009, on that weird tour when they opened for Jane's addiction. they were good, but I got bored of watching him do his angry mic grab after like 20 minutes.
should also add that this was in an open air amphitheater, before the sunset.

I did recently watch the full Woodstock set, pretty nuts/silly/galvanizing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfV7NLCWiiU

They should have another one of these so that America's wayward (mostly white) youth can get their yayas out and reset the timeline. First comment:

Stressful jobs:
- Astronaut
-Surgeon
-NIN backliner

I saw the band a handful of times - once in a NYC theater during the Pretty Hate Machine days - but the only time he toured since I met my wife tickets sold out and a second show I was only able to get pretty poor seats and it was a huge letdown (for both of us but her more so, though she was nice about it) so I am expecting to pay way more than I want to for this show but also hope there will be a good payoff with my very happy wife.

caught em at a "secret show" at webster hall when my wife was six months pregnant. wild show lol, idk how i landed the tickets.

I saw them in 95 (actually it will be 30 yrs exactly next week) in a basketball arena and it was as unhinged and crazed as any small show I had ever point to at that point, instrument smashing and seemingly some inter-band fighting. The Melvins were a surprise opener. The main floor where I was general admission, so just chaos and intensely thrilling. I've actually been kind of chasing the high of that gig for a long time.

2000 was next time I saw them and it was good, much more a "normal" performance but still great.

My fave NIN story (that I'm sure I've told before) was when I saw them in 2005 at a rando venue. For whatever reason the stage monitors were working, but the house sound was dead. So the band comes out in full emo/aggro mode, making all the faces, really intense, but you couldn't hear anything. Nada. It was like watching on mute. Eventually they figure out what is happening and Reznor is pissed. They all storm off the stage, and when they come back they burst into "Wish" and are twice as aggro. Iirc someone was bleeding.

You can hear (or not hear) the whole thing here. The first 13 minutes is barely there, then blam:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npYpwP6bFlA

I got a standing ticket for London. £91 inc fees. don't think I'd have gone for it if it was any more than that

Standing had sold out - I was about three seconds too late. Got "cheap" (lol) seats, £66. Would much rather be standing but ah well.

Would much rather be standing but ah well.

At 53, there is likely no circumstance under which I will ever say "would much rather be standing" about a concert again.

xp I think that was a glitch. there weren't any standing when I first looked, then I was looking at Level 1 seated, decided I didn't want to do that and cancelled, then there was a standing available so I got that instead

I'm pretty much standing or nothing at these arena gigs. I saw Radiohead (for free, friend had a spare) at the same place NIN are playing, in a seat and it was fucking rubbish, couldn't see anything, terrible atmosphere, if I'd paid for it I would've been pretty unhappy tbh

Good to know lol

yeah uh this is gonna be a no for me

On the rare occasion there's big arena show that I'm interested in, I'm like "OK, maybe I'll ball out for this, just this once" and then I don't.

Last and maybe only show I've sprung for $300 tickets was eight years ago https://www.barclayscenter.com/assets/img/910x350-Yo-MTV-Raps-30th-Anniversary-2018_new-bede753b7a.jpg.

This show sounds absolutely amazing but this economy isn't exactly being merciful to journalists-turnt-software-developers

I seem to be the only person in Toronto and/or on my TL that got a ticket

By the time it got to me in the queue it was like sweet seats for $500 and lousy seats for $180, so the ROI wasn't really popping off for me. Everyone have fun!

I got decent seats for $170 in Oakland.

define decent? the only ones we found in Oakland for that price were behind the stage :/

dynamic pricing is a fkn scourge

All right I am apparently going to see them in Nashville, my brother got tix. I think they were like $150 or so.

At 53, there is likely no circumstance under which I will ever say "would much rather be standing" about a concert again.

did you decide this on, since, or before your birthday

define decent? the only ones we found in Oakland for that price were behind the stage :/

section 105, row 15 or something. I only had about 5x people in front of me in the queue when they went on sale though.

5xxx people, that is

mmm yeah we were just too late i guess :(
bummed, i wouldve liked to see this one!

i have seen them four or five times already though

Boys Noize announced as the opener

interesting combo

Good show, minor technical issues notwithstanding. I think 7 tracks off The Downward Spiral? One off PHM (HLAH), two off Broken (Wish & Gave Up) - those two were the highlights, for me. Some other tracks, I have to say the post TDS stuff didn't do much for me, even when they went all "Tonight Matthew I'm going to be The Chemical Brothers(*)" for about three songs in the middle.

(*) Or David Guetta, as my colleague who was also there said.

I thought it was great, although would've liked more Pretty Hate Machine songs. I was standing quite near that small stage in the middle so got a good view when they were doing those bits

I was high up and right at the back, tiny trent was tiny but the light show was very impressive.

ah I vowed never to do that again after seeing Radiohead from right at the back there (for free luckily, spare ticket), it was so shit I decided if I can't get a standing ticket I'm just not going to arena gigs

I thought it was pretty great, too (and I liked the Boys Noize interlude a lot, maybe it would grate on relistening but I would have been happy with a whole show in that style).

just perused the setlist, looks great to me though I don't know who boys noize are but I'll take your word for it. last time I saw NIN they also did "I can't give everything away" (bowie), wish that were still in the setlist as it was awesome.

Boys Noize was playing New Beat/EBM bangers before NIN came on