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Extremely hard to do, but what is your favourite Beach Boys song? And why?

James Ball (James Ball), Monday, 13 January 2003 15:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Changes all the time for me, but I was listening to 'Pet Sounds Live' at the weekend and I'd find it hard to think of a song more beautiful in its emotional simplicity than 'Don't Talk (Put your head on my shoulder)'.

James Ball (James Ball), Monday, 13 January 2003 15:44 (twenty-two years ago)

gee i sure dig that "student demonstration time." mike love, he WAS the beach boys, wasn't he?

Robbie Turner, Monday, 13 January 2003 15:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Heroes and Villians all the way. The sound of such nice boys gone completely and utterly hatstand, yessir.

Lynskey (Lynskey), Monday, 13 January 2003 15:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Especially the full ten-minute version on the Smile bootleg ("in the cantina" etc. etc.).

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 13 January 2003 15:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Good vibrations - because it has so much going on without sounding like a mess.

Robin Goad (rgoad), Monday, 13 January 2003 15:51 (twenty-two years ago)

well, James, a very fine choice that - kinda close to me too, having just recently radio-played the sequence of B.Boys'"Don't Talk" >> Costello & von Otter's cover of same >> Fennesz's non-cover of this title...

but i'd still go for "Heroes and Villains"

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Monday, 13 January 2003 15:54 (twenty-two years ago)

"Good Vibrations" or "Wouldn't It Be Nice".

Orange, Monday, 13 January 2003 16:20 (twenty-two years ago)

'Time to get alone'

makes me cry

Mr Binturong (Mr Binturong), Monday, 13 January 2003 16:33 (twenty-two years ago)

"Especially the full ten-minute version on the Smile bootleg ("in the cantina" etc. etc.)."

I'd go for this version as well - it's available now at the end of the combined Smiley Smile/Wild Honey cd. I presume it's the same version you mean.

andy, Monday, 13 January 2003 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Never really liked not "got" the Beach Boys (I know, I know: "What's to get? They wrote brilliant pop!" Sure, but I don't understand why people act like they invented the wheel, and I could never fathom how people regarded them as peers to the Beatles in any possible way). That said, I'll go with "Wendy".

Also, Mike Love? C'mon! He's indefensible!!! That guy needs a goddamn Mouth Diaper for all the shit that spews out of it.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 13 January 2003 16:43 (twenty-two years ago)

aw c'mon! mike love wrote "kokomo"! biggest seller the beach boys ever had. if it had been down to wacko brian wilson they would made albums of antelope impressions through disembodied euphonium mouthpieces.

Robbie Turner, Monday, 13 January 2003 16:48 (twenty-two years ago)

"hey would made albums of antelope impressions through disembodied euphonium mouthpieces."

The soundtrack to "Cocktail" would've been a much more adventurous thing indeed.

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 13 January 2003 16:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Mike Love, no wait, that's not you meant by OPO?

Horace Mann, Monday, 13 January 2003 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)

"In My Room."

mike a (mike a), Monday, 13 January 2003 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

"I Get Around"/"Don't Worry Baby"

James Blount (James Blount), Monday, 13 January 2003 18:16 (twenty-two years ago)

god only knows

gygax!, Monday, 13 January 2003 18:22 (twenty-two years ago)

celebrate the news - one of their less well known songs that's as good as their more popular things and more interesting to boot.

phil turnbull (philT), Monday, 13 January 2003 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

"Let him run wild" It's got it all really, downbeat lyrics, a good variety of rythmns, and enough complexity in the vocals.

jel -- (jel), Monday, 13 January 2003 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)

sabotage

Jamie Thompson (Jamie), Monday, 13 January 2003 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)

"We'll Run Away," for Brian's vocal.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 13 January 2003 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)

2d place: "Don't Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder)"

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 13 January 2003 19:13 (twenty-two years ago)

would have been god only knows or good vibrations until recently,but now i'm leaning towards dont worry baby

robin (robin), Monday, 13 January 2003 19:38 (twenty-two years ago)

"Warmth of the Sun"

J (Jay), Monday, 13 January 2003 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)

'Til I Die and Surf's Up

chris breitenbach, Monday, 13 January 2003 19:59 (twenty-two years ago)

3rd 'Don't Talk(Put your head on my Shoulder)',I also love the disco version of 'Here comes the Night' produced by Curt Boettcher,must have been one of his last productions,it really sparkles.

Paul R (paul R), Monday, 13 January 2003 20:36 (twenty-two years ago)

"Wouldn't It Be Nice". "Barbara Ann" is good too.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 13 January 2003 20:38 (twenty-two years ago)

"Our Prayer". 2nd choice, "Good Vibrations".

Phil (phil), Monday, 13 January 2003 20:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll go for "Kiss me baby" (b-side of "California Girls"?), which is every bit as good as "Pet sounds" all rolled into one song. Always brings a tear to my eye, every time. Especially the stereo version on "Endless Harmony".

Rob M (Rob M), Monday, 13 January 2003 21:10 (twenty-two years ago)

"Fun, Fun, Fun"

My name is Kenny (My name is Kenny), Monday, 13 January 2003 21:25 (twenty-two years ago)

"Child Is Father To The Man" or "Little Bird"

Paul (scifisoul), Monday, 13 January 2003 23:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Sail On Sailor

bahtology, Monday, 13 January 2003 23:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I just wasn't made for these times

electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 00:52 (twenty-two years ago)

"aw c'mon! mike love wrote "kokomo"! biggest seller the beach boys ever had. if it had been down to wacko brian wilson they would made albums of antelope impressions through disembodied euphonium mouthpieces."

I think this was next up after 'Smile' if Mike Love hadn't scuppered the idea. Bastard.

James Ball (James Ball), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 09:41 (twenty-two years ago)

"God Only Knows" or "The Warmth of the Sun"

Brian the Snorf, Tuesday, 14 January 2003 10:44 (twenty-two years ago)

that one they did with the fat boys - wipeout - was RAWKIN'. it sounds just like jesus and the many chains.

Robbie Turner, Tuesday, 14 January 2003 10:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Don't Worry Baby and God Only Knows. Its impossible for me to pick one. THey are one of my all time favorites.

Chris V. (Chris V), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)

"Don't Worry Baby"

Joe (Joe), Thursday, 16 January 2003 00:52 (twenty-two years ago)

So much wonderful, majestic music there to choose from... Ah, god... erm, just leaving aside the sublime likes of ''Til I Die', 'Don't Talk', 'Please let me wonder', 'Heroes and Villains', 'Surf's Up', 'The Night was so Young'... I shall say; 'All I Wanna Do', a wonderfully romantic, non-too-complex song off 'Sunflower', elevated tenfold by a remarkable production. Those harmonies are at their very best on this track... aw, but can I have 'My Diane', or 'In My Room' (in whatever context, this song is unutterably beautiful and moving, sort of like a music equivalent of Gene Kelly's title number in the film, 'Singin' in the Rain')?

Tom May, Thursday, 16 January 2003 01:07 (twenty-two years ago)

wouldn't it be nice

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 16 January 2003 02:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Can't pick a song and I don't care, so: Smiley Smile. Really is the album I've listened to the most by them. It's so cuddly and strange.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 16 January 2003 03:28 (twenty-two years ago)

nine months pass...
CD80 'portable' Beach Boys go!

Surfin' Safari
Surfin' USA
Little Deuce Coupe
Surfer Girl
Catch a Wave
In My Room
Be True to Your School
Fun, Fun, Fun
Don't Worry Baby
I Get Around
Help Me Rhonda
California Girls
Wouldn't It Be Nice
You Still Believe in Me
That's Not Me
Don't Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder)
I'm Waiting for the Day
Let's Go Away for Awhile
Sloop John B.
God Only Knows
I Know There's an Answer
Here Today
I Just Wasn't Made for These Times
Pet Sounds
Caroline, No
Good Vibrations
Darlin'
Cool Water
Trader

(80:05, chronological. contains the entirety of Pet Sounds as well as most hits. Had to cut "Matchpoint of Our Love"!)

Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Thursday, 13 November 2003 19:46 (twenty-one years ago)

"girl don't tell me" -- my all-time fave vocal performance, thank you carl wilson!

fact checking cuz, Thursday, 13 November 2003 20:21 (twenty-one years ago)

"God Only Knows" is pure perfection. Even better than "Good Vibrations".

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 13 November 2003 20:31 (twenty-one years ago)

Geir, have you heard "This Whole World"? Tell me what you think of it from a composition standpoint. I think it's pretty sophisticated.

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 13 November 2003 20:47 (twenty-one years ago)

"This Whole World" is nice, but I tend to prefer the slower numbers on "Sunflower". They have the best backing vocals. "At My Window" is one of their best ever, while "Cool Cool Water" was also great (but not a wise choice as a single, as it was too "weird" for that)

Geir Hongro (GeirHong), Thursday, 13 November 2003 20:49 (twenty-one years ago)

have you ever looked at the music for "this whole world"?

gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, 13 November 2003 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

Dude, I thought I could'nt even manage a CDR700MB Beach Boys Go!.. but i got one somewhere, so if any of your uberWilson sadists want me to post the entire tracklist, I'll do it! Be forewarned!

donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 13 November 2003 21:09 (twenty-one years ago)

I'm crazy about "Country Air" off of Wild Honey.

Kenan Hebert (kenan), Thursday, 13 November 2003 21:14 (twenty-one years ago)

Wottabout Dennis's Forever, or Bruce Johnston's heart-meltin' Disney Girls?
There's an instrumental on 20/20, I think, in which Bruce Johnston invents Air.

Chuck Tatum (Chuck Tatum), Thursday, 13 November 2003 21:15 (twenty-one years ago)

Can't choose between "In My Room", "God Only Knows" and "Good Vibrations".

Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Sunday, 23 October 2005 12:59 (twenty years ago)

six months pass...
warmth of the sun

charltonlido (gareth), Thursday, 27 April 2006 20:22 (nineteen years ago)

"Diamond Head" lately.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, 27 April 2006 20:26 (nineteen years ago)

I think Carl's lead on "I Can Hear Music" is really one of the most pristine things I have ever, EVER heard.

QuantumNoise (Justin Farrar), Thursday, 27 April 2006 20:29 (nineteen years ago)

Girl Don't Tell Me

Dan Selzer (Dan Selzer), Thursday, 27 April 2006 20:54 (nineteen years ago)

for me lately its been "You Need a Mess of Help to Stand Alone". One of those songs of theirs where the lyric is actually kinda clever and cool.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 27 April 2006 21:52 (nineteen years ago)

"I Know There's an Answer"

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 27 April 2006 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, I said that back in October - I am being consistent!

Tim Ellison (Tim Ellison), Thursday, 27 April 2006 22:11 (nineteen years ago)

"All I wanna Do" from Sunflower. I could float away on that one.

Sparkle Motion's Rising Force, Friday, 28 April 2006 04:44 (nineteen years ago)

"Feel Flows" is still amazing.

A. Lingbert (A. Lingbert), Friday, 28 April 2006 05:28 (nineteen years ago)

oh i wish i could hear all these songs for the first time again... sigh

dog latin (dog latin), Friday, 28 April 2006 08:52 (nineteen years ago)

Current fave is "It's About Time"

Chuck_Tatum (Chuck_Tatum), Friday, 28 April 2006 09:21 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

Has everyone heard the "The Warmth of the Sun" comp? The new stereo mix of "Let Him Run Wild" is smokin' aces. I might even pick that song for my answer to this thread. There's also a new mix of "You're So Good to Me" that will melt you.

kenan, Friday, 8 June 2007 01:34 (eighteen years ago)

Oh, the whole thing is just amazing. Best Beach Boys comp ever, no really.

kenan, Friday, 8 June 2007 01:35 (eighteen years ago)

I can't believe I never posted to this thread. anyway, if I have to go to the grave w/only one song, it's "Can't Wait Too Long".

Dominique, Friday, 8 June 2007 02:21 (eighteen years ago)

Of course, Dom, the question is which version? GV or SS bonus track?

Me? I'd say the boxed set version...

Naive Teen Idol, Friday, 8 June 2007 02:51 (eighteen years ago)

one month passes...

I have noticed an increasing number of Beach Boys CDs in the discount bins here. At the same time, the recent "Warth Of The Sun" CD contains a lot of previously unreleased stereo versions and mono versions of songs who have previously only been available in the other form (at least on CD).

Does this mean, as is usually the case when an act's back catalogue is being dumped on discount, the re-releases with one CD each for each album in stereo and mono alike, as announced almost 10 years ago, are finally being made ready for release? Anyone has more info on this?

Geir Hongro, Wednesday, 11 July 2007 20:07 (eighteen years ago)

five months pass...

'can't wait too long'

That one guy that hit it and quit it, Monday, 31 December 2007 18:09 (seventeen years ago)

One of the all time great cast-off tracks. I'm kind of glad they never finished it.

Sparkle Motion, Monday, 31 December 2007 18:41 (seventeen years ago)

eight months pass...

Feel Flows

Tape Store, Thursday, 18 September 2008 12:36 (seventeen years ago)

two months pass...

Has everyone heard the "The Warmth of the Sun" comp? The new stereo mix of "Let Him Run Wild" is smokin' aces. I might even pick that song for my answer to this thread. There's also a new mix of "You're So Good to Me" that will melt you.

― kenan, Friday, June 8, 2007 2:34 AM (1 year ago) Bookmark

This album is my employee of the month for November 2008

caek, Sunday, 23 November 2008 19:35 (sixteen years ago)

Let Him Run Wild is in my top 5. Possibly 3.

deadin' berries (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 23 November 2008 20:10 (sixteen years ago)

At a push... 'Til I Die or Surf's Up.

And it's maybe not their very greatest song, but Let The Wind Blow absolutely slays me, particularly when Brian's vocal rises up and then fades away, trailed by some subtle backing vocals at the end of the "Don't let her out of my life" section. I think it was written after he and Marylin had had a fight - or is that just an invention of that cheesy TV movie? Whatever the truth, it's a beautiful and heartfelt song.

Stew, Sunday, 23 November 2008 23:19 (sixteen years ago)

agreed

deadin' berries (PappaWheelie V), Sunday, 23 November 2008 23:37 (sixteen years ago)

fourteen years pass...

Don't Worry Baby (Mono)

thank god we have the mono mix

corrs unplugged, Thursday, 28 September 2023 09:06 (two years ago)

That would be my pick too. Second maybe "Good Vibrations" or "God Only Knows," but "Don't Worry Baby" has always been the one I played the most. When Carl Wilson died, I remember Dick Biondi on oldies radio that late Sunday morning breaking the news (or at least repeating it - I didn't know yet) with that song.

birdistheword, Thursday, 28 September 2023 19:47 (two years ago)

Strange choice, it's not like there aren't a score of great Beach Boys songs with Carl singing lead!

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 29 September 2023 14:50 (two years ago)

...including "Good Vibrations" and "God Only Knows", hardly deep cuts. It's like if McCartney died and you played "I Am the Walrus" to announce it.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 29 September 2023 14:52 (two years ago)

He was the Walrus though.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Friday, 29 September 2023 14:55 (two years ago)

Not the same, but when Lennon was dying or at least receiving a last ditch attempt to save him in the ER, "All My Loving" was the music being piped into the room by sheer coincidence. As terrible and sad as the moment may have been, it seems like a fitting song. (Lennon said that was the McCartney song he had wished he had written.)

What makes "Don't Worry Baby" for me is the harmonies that bathe you. That's one of the sad elements of Dennis and Carl dying, the idea that an essential part of the whole was gone. Reminds me of my favorite writing on the Beach Boys: "...the Beach Boys were not fakes. Empty, tired, desperate, stupid, and even insane as they were through the next decades, singly or as a group, for a time they nevertheless performed life as some people actually lived it. The Beach Boys celebrated California hedonism, looked for its limits, and found them. Their pleasures, as opposed to those offered by such latter-day inheritors as the Eagles, always radiated affection - perhaps because those pleasures were rooted in friendship, or its memory, or its fantasy."

birdistheword, Friday, 29 September 2023 20:17 (two years ago)

^to save anyone the search I just performed, that’s Greil Marcus in Mystery Train

Chavez video on MTV, July 1995 (morrisp), Friday, 29 September 2023 22:01 (two years ago)

'A Day in the Life of a Tree' - I don't know anything else like it.

Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Friday, 29 September 2023 22:49 (two years ago)

It's amazing they got someone from outside the band to sing that song. I'm sure any of them could have bosses it, but they thought his voice sounded oaky and they chose him to do it, and it's one of their most emotional songs

...eh you get the gist of it (dog latin), Sunday, 1 October 2023 00:40 (two years ago)

He sounds more like a tree than any of the Boys could manage

PaulTMA, Sunday, 1 October 2023 01:30 (two years ago)

For a long time I thought it was depressed/drugged/pyjama Brian who was singing it ! Always loved that song.

AlXTC from Paris, Sunday, 1 October 2023 04:37 (two years ago)

Yeah it's the oddest thing that, for a band where literally everyone was a capable vocalist, they got their manager to sing it.

Kim Kimberly, Sunday, 1 October 2023 04:42 (two years ago)

But yeah obviously it works.

Kim Kimberly, Sunday, 1 October 2023 04:44 (two years ago)

Manager Jack Rieley was also a regular lyricist for the BB's at the time. Here's more info on his involvement, from Rieley himself (http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,9651.0.html)

Brian Wilson and I had been talking a lot about the sorry state of the planet back then. He was filled with questions and we went on for hours about it. Forests were dying, the air had turned brown, the earth's future was beginning to appear hazardous to health. When Brian first played the chords and sang the tentative melody for me, he asked what the song should be about and I suggested a single tree as metaphor for the earth; that single tree as metaphor for more than
ecology. I fell in love with the chords at once and loved the swelling tension of that droned bass line; the song seemed to lend itself to the lyrical concept. He went nuts for the lyrics when I showed them to him. Loved 'em, memorized the first verse and was singing around the house. Carl and I were positive that Brian had to sing A Day In The Life Of A Tree.

We recorded the instrumental track in a few days. On the day we were to record the lead vocal, I was with the engineer in the control room (this was in Belair, at the Bellagio house) and Brian was in the studio. He did a few warm-up takes and then, dramatically animated as was in wont, tore the headphones from his ears and exclaimed that he needed me to help him. I went out into the studio and he pleaded that he just wasn't getting the feeling that I intended with the lyric.

"Show me what I'm supposed to do," he insisted, handing me the headphones as he ran to the control booth.

I did about 5 takes of the song, all except for the false-setto bit near the end. Each time I screwed up one part or another, and after each take Brian used the talkback to inform me something like, "I see what you mean. But how about the blah-blah part. Do another take so I'll know just how to do the song." And dumb me: I did another take.

It was after one of those that Brian burst from the control booth to the studio, laughing loudly, a proclamatory laugh. He rushed me like
a bear, raised both arms into the air as would a victorious high school athletics coach and exclaimed that I had just done the final lead vocal!

I protested. It was turning into another BW cop-out, I suspected. But
by then Carl was there too. He said Brian had told him a couple of
days previous that I had to sing Tree. It had all been cooked in
advance.

To my astonishment, the false-setto bit turned out easy. After Van
Dyke's bit, the added voice at the end is Linda Jardine. Reports of Brian crying, with joy or otherwise, upon hearing my vocal are bullshit.

sawdust lagoon, Sunday, 1 October 2023 06:29 (two years ago)

Ahah that’s great thanks !

AlXTC from Paris, Sunday, 1 October 2023 07:27 (two years ago)

There’s a bit in the Long Promised Road doc where the journalist Brian is riding around town with informs him that Rieley died. Brian is shocked to hear the news and a few minutes later gets really upset. This era and the work he did with Rieley def. meant something to Brian.

Naive Teen Idol, Sunday, 1 October 2023 22:38 (two years ago)

I love how it goes from silly/simple to mesmerising in the last minute, when the falsettos kick in.

Chuck_Tatum, Sunday, 1 October 2023 23:34 (two years ago)

There’s a bit in the Long Promised Road doc where the journalist Brian is riding around town with informs him that Rieley died.

Is it more likely that he had forgotten or never been told? Rieley died at least 5 years before that was shot.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 2 October 2023 02:57 (two years ago)

Yeah that’s how I read it as well.

Naive Teen Idol, Monday, 2 October 2023 05:23 (two years ago)

'A Day in the Life of a Tree' - I don't know anything else like it.

― Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Friday, September 29, 2023 6:49 PM (three days ago) bookmarkflaglink

Absolute greatest track sequence run they ever did will be the second half of Surf’s Up.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 2 October 2023 05:46 (two years ago)

I was thinking this but also that the second side of Sunflower gives it a close run for its money. Both those albums win in terms of sequencing - silly (but not entirely irredeemable) fluff at the beginning, moving to some of the most sincerely outstanding so far of their careers

...eh you get the gist of it (dog latin), Monday, 2 October 2023 09:57 (two years ago)

I never really clicked with “Forever” but the acapella mix on Feel Flows is gorgeous.

Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 2 October 2023 12:07 (two years ago)

I think 'Forever' is one of the better Dennis ballads. A highlight on that album

...eh you get the gist of it (dog latin), Monday, 2 October 2023 12:19 (two years ago)

my thing with Surf's Up is i much prefer different edits and mixes of the last songs, which are obviously the best ones, to the album versions. i'll take the Desper mix of Til i die every time (it's a contender for my OPO), and the bootleg edit of Surf's Up with the extended George Fell into his French Horn intro and with BriWi's lead vox intact. so will invariably reach for other discs when i want to hear those songs.

When i throw on Surf's up LP it's usually because i wanna hear Feel Flows or Long Promised Road (which itself is not quite as good as the live version on Endless Harmony imo but the studio version is great too).

The flow of the sequence works so well that it more than justifies the inclusion of the lesser songs (with the one obvious exception)

Easter underwear (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 00:02 (two years ago)

It was after one of those that Brian burst from the control booth to the studio, laughing loudly, a proclamatory laugh. He rushed me like
a bear, raised both arms into the air as would a victorious high school athletics coach and exclaimed that I had just done the final lead vocal!

ahahaha didn't van dyke parks do the same thing with brian on "orange crate art"?

Kate (rushomancy), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 13:40 (two years ago)

two months pass...

RIP Jeff Foskett

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/jeffrey-foskett-beach-boy-brian-wilson-dead-obituary-1234924498/

Naive Teen Idol, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 04:05 (one year ago)


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