― Dave, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― JM, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Sean Carruthers, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
What? Was the limp-pop direction of his first (& only) solo joint failing him so much that he's reverting back to his Badmotorfinger / Louder than Love uber-aggression stance?
It's a shame - both Superunknown & Down on the Upside had some good tunes on them. And, yes, that's TUNES. I'm partial to those two albums, but that's not to slight Badmotorfinger at all. Their stuff preceeding that is catch-as-catch-can - especially Ultramega OK, which only lives up to the latter half of its title. (I know Maura would vehemently disagree, though. Or, at the very least, respectfully refute.)
Personally, I think Soundgarden was better @ going "pop" than being "grunge". If you want Sabbath-esque guitar leads & thud-thud- thud, all you need is the Melvins. All you should want is the Melvins. All there is is the Melvins, really. (Granted, King Buzzo can't wail like a Mecha-Christina (post-testosterone shots, mind you), but SG's excessive use of that schtick didn't do Chris any favors.)
By the way - despite my developed aversion for all things Classic & Rock, I'd have to say that Led Zeppelin III and IV are nearly unassailable. Lumping the Zep in with the Doors is a damn shame.
― David Raposa, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Mike Hanley, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Kris, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Best and most effective damn dump on Zac I've ever read. Yow!
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― Tracer Hand, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
After that, classic. After I was out of high school and I went through various phases of elitism, I sort of forgot how classic. But I remembered eventually.
All of the last three albums are worth listening to, as albums, though if your tastes lean toward songwriting and "hard rock" rather than metal you'd probably prefer Down on the Upside and, moreso, Superunknown. But Badmotorfinger is a motherfucker.
Aside from that, late-career singles to search (I am very much counting on Maura to pop up and recommend early ones):
Badmotorfinger: Rusty Cage, Outshined, New Damage
Superunknown: Fell On Black Days, Mailman, Limo Wreck, The Day I Tried To Live, 4th of July
Down on the Upside: uh, I don't know most of these songs by name, and I don't have my CD with me, but the two singles (Blow Up the Outside World and Burden in My Hand) are good too. "Never the Machine Forever", maybe?
As a matter of fact, their a-sides record would be an excellent purchase if you want some Soundgarden but don't think you want a whole album.
― Josh Kortbein, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― keith, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
Soundgarden just couldn't top their masterwork, and "Down On The Upside" had some naff moments. Fortunately for us, their recorded output was capped off by the sublime "Boot Camp."
― Jack Redelfs, Sunday, 23 September 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)
― naked as sin (naked as sin), Saturday, 7 December 2002 00:42 (twenty-two years ago)
― Michael Bourke, Saturday, 7 December 2002 01:45 (twenty-two years ago)
― naked as sin (naked as sin), Saturday, 7 December 2002 15:12 (twenty-two years ago)
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Saturday, 7 December 2002 16:33 (twenty-two years ago)
But one thing I was taken with was during the bridge or somewhere in the middle of all the riffage in the middle is this pretty direct lift of a couple Jesus Christ Superstar themes which I never picked up on in 1992 for one reason or another... despite picking the very same themes up in Pegboy and Afghan Whigs records from the same year. Anyone else catch that?
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:01 (twenty-one years ago)
In any case, Soundgarden -- in their day (now many, many, many moons ago) -- were fucking **MASSIVE** , and a QUADRILLION LIGHT YEARS OF BROAD SWEEPING VAST DISTANCES better than their snivelling little pals in Nirvana. First saw them at L'Amour in Brooklyn (with Voi Vod and Faith No More) circa Louder Than Love and they blasted a new part in my hair. Great, great, great band .
big fans of Killing Joke, by the way.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:09 (twenty-one years ago)
Soundgarden had their moments.
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:19 (twenty-one years ago)
I don't really see much of a point of comparison with Soundgarden and Nirvana anyway, other than they were both guitar rock bands from Seattle....Soundgarden has way more in common with the bands that Myonga just cited than Nirvana....
Also, I REALLY REALLY REALLY WISH I WOULD HAD BEEN AT THAT SHOW....christ what a lineup! I need to listen to some Voivod.
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)
And yes, the show in question was godlike. Voi Vod had recently released Nothingface and FNM were promoting The Real Thing. And this was at a shitty, tiny little club. I was wearing a Dread Zeppelin shirt at the time, and Matt Cameron -- seemingly on his way out of the men's room during Voi Vod's set -- says "that's some funny, fucked up shit!". Yay.
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 11 October 2004 19:40 (twenty-one years ago)
i had erased dread zeppelin from my memory until i read that. yikes! boy i bet that wouldn't seem as funny if i heard it now...
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 11 October 2004 20:13 (twenty-one years ago)
― kickitcricket (kickitcricket), Monday, 11 October 2004 20:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― Wooden (Wooden), Monday, 11 October 2004 20:26 (twenty-one years ago)
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:05 (twenty-one years ago)
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:06 (twenty-one years ago)
― sundar subramanian (sundar), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:07 (twenty-one years ago)
I like 'em both just fine.
― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:19 (twenty-one years ago)
― Mark (MarkR), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)
― Roy Williams Highlight (diamond), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:22 (twenty-one years ago)
― gygax! (gygax!), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:24 (twenty-one years ago)
Actually, honestly, I guess Soundgarden were better than I ever give 'em credit for. If I'd never read a single interview with or article about them, I'd like 'em more than I do. (But still not as much as Sabbath or Zep, from whom they borrowed plenty despite their nonsensical denials.)
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:27 (twenty-one years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Monday, 11 October 2004 21:29 (twenty-one years ago)
alex in nyc is officially the biggest crybaby on ILX.
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Monday, 11 October 2004 23:56 (twenty-one years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 00:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― piers (piers), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 00:43 (twenty-one years ago)
How does merely stating a fact make me a crybaby?
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 00:58 (twenty-one years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 02:31 (twenty-one years ago)
― lemin (lemin), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 04:03 (twenty-one years ago)
― latebloomer (latebloomer), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 04:29 (twenty-one years ago)
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 12 October 2004 11:45 (twenty-one years ago)
― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:33 (nineteen years ago)
― Last Of The Famous International Pfunkboys (Kerr), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:43 (nineteen years ago)
― Dr. Gene Scott (shinybeast), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 21:59 (nineteen years ago)
I've never heard anyone else make the comparison, but Soundgarden's songwriting remind me a lot of early Traffic- stuff like "Mr. Fantasy" and "Forty Thousand Headmen"- in the lyrics, the dynamics and in Cornell's singing.
― bendy (bendy), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:23 (nineteen years ago)
― M@tt He1geson (Matt Helgeson), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 22:29 (nineteen years ago)
I wonder if "My Wave" was meant as a Yes rip, because it reminds me of part of "Ritual"...
― Deluxe (Damian), Wednesday, 18 January 2006 23:28 (nineteen years ago)
Anyone know how much some of their rarer vinyl is worth? Such as:
Louder Than Live (yes, Live) on blue vinyl. Hands All Over promo single. Loud Love promo single. etc.
― Reatards Unite, Sunday, 24 August 2008 21:50 (seventeen years ago)
Try completed listings on ebay -
http://cgi.ebay.com/SOUNDGARDEN-Louder-Than-Live-promo-12-blue-wax-punk_W0QQitemZ370061040886QQihZ024QQcategoryZ306QQcmdZViewItem
63 on ebay, can buy it mint on musicstack for 70.
― svend, Sunday, 24 August 2008 22:11 (seventeen years ago)
Thanks, but how do you search for ebay completed listings?
― Reatards Unite, Sunday, 24 August 2008 22:22 (seventeen years ago)
It is under advanced search, it requires you to sign in. If you don't have an account, google is pretty good for finding recent listings too.
― svend, Sunday, 24 August 2008 22:25 (seventeen years ago)
That Vedder video making the rounds is cathartic and sad:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2GcJ32m13Y
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 23 July 2017 14:10 (eight years ago)
they've always reminded me of a very heavy version of early Traffic
for your consideration, this challop (?) i found on the interweb:
'SG was always more Heart than Sabbath'
― j., Friday, 24 November 2017 18:34 (eight years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bY5tDB9mp3cwhat a voice
― niels, Friday, 27 April 2018 09:42 (seven years ago)
OMG
― Lou Grant, the Iranian cinema of late '70s TV (stevie), Friday, 27 April 2018 09:54 (seven years ago)
heavy as fuckhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkPDK0m8Ir4
― corrs unplugged, Monday, 29 July 2019 11:03 (six years ago)
Wow. Thanks for that.And for this:
/they've always reminded me of a very heavy version of early Traffic/for your consideration, this challop (?) i found on the interweb:'SG was always more Heart than Sabbath'
― U or Astro-U? (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 29 July 2019 11:37 (six years ago)
that whole new live album is great, some nice early jams on it. felt very very lucky to have caught one of those reunion shows in london - they were on amazing form.
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Monday, 29 July 2019 12:23 (six years ago)
looking back at setlist only sad thing for me personally was no jesus christ pose https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/soundgarden/2012/o2-shepherds-bush-empire-london-england-53da9f5d.html
― Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Monday, 29 July 2019 12:25 (six years ago)
new live album is immense. cornell's voice is so strong.
― SHANTY the golden fish portion (stevie), Monday, 29 July 2019 21:17 (six years ago)
Yeah, I'm listening to the live album now and it's redeeming King Animal songs for me - I found that album incredibly forgettable at the time, but those tunes slot into an amazing set very well.
― shared unit of analysis (unperson), Monday, 29 July 2019 23:07 (six years ago)
it's a great album! worth spending time with!
― american bradass (BradNelson), Monday, 29 July 2019 23:29 (six years ago)
Bones Of Birds is one of their very best
― SHANTY the golden fish portion (stevie), Tuesday, 30 July 2019 11:33 (six years ago)
Drown me riff 4 lyfe
― calstars, Saturday, 21 September 2019 02:32 (six years ago)
nah slaves & bulldozers
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 September 2019 02:57 (six years ago)
why choose
― the public eating of beans (Sparkle Motion), Saturday, 21 September 2019 03:44 (six years ago)
“Hands all over” a close second maybe
― calstars, Saturday, 21 September 2019 03:54 (six years ago)
"Beyond the Wheel" is the tits
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 September 2019 03:59 (six years ago)
cosign on that too
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 21 September 2019 04:02 (six years ago)
I miss Chris Cornell.
― Simon H., Saturday, 21 September 2019 04:26 (six years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUqkDX0tnfM
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Saturday, 21 September 2019 04:31 (six years ago)
I will never regret buying the ticket to see him on a whim at some minor local festival (when I couldn't make Welcome to Rockville), as he was gone only a few weeks later. he seemed in good spirits and sounded great, with a lot of his power coming back.
oh, the other song that was a jam was "Room a Thousand Years Wide"
― When I am afraid, I put my toast in you (Neanderthal), Saturday, 21 September 2019 04:34 (six years ago)
― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, September 20, 2019 10:57 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
http://cfcy.fm/wp-content/uploads/sites/5/2017/08/devil-horns-291x300.jpg
― The Ravishing of ROFL Stein (Hadrian VIII), Saturday, 21 September 2019 12:56 (six years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p8hKsPtw4yY
was curious about this performance and just ended up watching it straight through. greatest band of all time
― american bradass (BradNelson), Sunday, 5 January 2020 12:08 (five years ago)
I saw them on that tour. Gigantic performance, and one of the greatest large venue-concert experiences I can remember.
― Mule, Sunday, 5 January 2020 12:21 (five years ago)
I was at that show. I'd flown home from Seattle, interviewing Mark Arm, that morning. It rained, and it was sublime. Cornell's voice just got better and better.
― Pinche Cumbion Bien Loco (stevie), Sunday, 5 January 2020 12:46 (five years ago)
He wrote the best vocal melodies.
― Maresn3st, Sunday, 5 January 2020 14:02 (five years ago)
Yeah that tour was awesome. I saw them the year prior in SF and they were on fire.
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 5 January 2020 15:18 (five years ago)
Was reminded of this today:
https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71ZmsBHcOtL._AC_SX679_.jpg
SOUNDGARDEN ROOKIE CARD!
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:46 (five years ago)
Sad it's not the rare error card with Scott Weiland in a tutu
― Lady Antibody (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:56 (five years ago)
I'm gonna hitI'm gonna hit thatI'm gonna hit that upper deck and run
― call mr zbow that's my name that name again is mr zbow (Craig D.), Tuesday, 21 July 2020 23:58 (five years ago)
XP But otoh you get Ben Shepard's photo and Jason Everman's credit.
― "...And the Gods Socially Distanced" (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 00:10 (five years ago)
no Hiro, no credibility for a rookie card
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 00:17 (five years ago)
Everman’s incorrect credit - he was only in the videos and maybe toured the album. Hiro played on it and he’s pictured on the cover, for crying out loud!
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 09:09 (five years ago)
I am pretty sure this was Jason's only studio contribution with SG:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpT4kgg5xlw
― Jersey Al (Albert R. Broccoli), Wednesday, 22 July 2020 16:42 (five years ago)
https://www.billboard.com/business/legal/soundgarden-vicky-cornell-resolution-unreleased-chris-cornell-songs-1235304525/
― dow, Tuesday, 18 April 2023 16:32 (two years ago)
Sad it’s taken this long just to get close to getting these songs out.
― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 19:24 (two years ago)
Can't believe it's been almost six years. Wow.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 18 April 2023 19:35 (two years ago)
Well danghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9QCJ-vWuxuY
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 17 December 2024 04:58 (eleven months ago)
Racist assholes in the comments. I thought she sounded p amazing, even on Beyond The Wheel, which is a motherfucker to sing.
― Judge Judy, executioner (stevie), Tuesday, 17 December 2024 09:50 (eleven months ago)
Holy fuck those comments are an even worse cesspool than I even feared. Gross, misogynistic, body shaming, sexually harassing and racist all in one! YouTube needs to be nuked from orbit at this point.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 17 December 2024 17:33 (eleven months ago)
all respect to Chris, I have seen countless SG live vids where his singing is p ropey, esp from Superunknown-era. His vocal parts are motherfuckers to sing live and in the moment, and she did a thrilling job. (Saw the reformed SG in Hyde Park, I think in 2013? And they fucking slayed, tbh. RIP Chris)
― Judge Judy, executioner (stevie), Tuesday, 17 December 2024 18:21 (eleven months ago)
Yea I mean he sounded fine in later years but he'd lost a lot of power after he shredded his voice. So haters in the comments can fuck off
― Riposte Malone (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 17 December 2024 19:22 (eleven months ago)
also LOL at the dickholes saying they should team up with Richie Kotzen. No. Nope. No way.
― Judge Judy, executioner (stevie), Tuesday, 17 December 2024 19:42 (eleven months ago)
Didn't Brandi Carlile sing in place of Chris Cornell a couple of times? I like the idea of replacing some of these shriekers and screamers and wailers with women. The one or two times Nirvana did it it was with Joan Jett. Linkin Park just got a female singer. When I saw Bowie he had Gail Ann Dorsey do the Freddie Mercury parts in "Under Pressure." Supposedly Van Halen tried to get Patti Smyth to replace DLR.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 17 December 2024 20:21 (eleven months ago)
Wondering if I need to read the Chris Cornell bio by Corbin Reiff.
― Reggie Clanker (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 August 2025 19:54 (two months ago)
Cameron says they are working on completing an unfinished Soundgarden album, the last stuff Cornell sang on which was apparently held up by a lawsuit from his widow. (Fwiw, it sounds like the reason he left Pearl Jam was that he was mostly sick of playing 3-hour shows every night on long tours. And he's got a Wipers sorta tribute band now that features him on guitar and vocals, too.)
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 17 September 2025 02:23 (two months ago)
would 100% go see a Wipers tribute band.
― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 17 September 2025 02:33 (two months ago)
and also 100% wanna hear that new Soundgarden LP
― conspiracitorial theories (stevie), Wednesday, 17 September 2025 08:13 (two months ago)
I think I saw a clip of Cameron's band on Insta the other day, with Hiro guesting to sing "Circle of Power".
― wronger than 100 geir posts (MacDara), Wednesday, 17 September 2025 08:24 (two months ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T5oUYhhkdiI
― imperial frfr (Steve Shasta), Monday, 17 November 2025 07:55 (one week ago)