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How good are you at telling when people are "pretending to like" things? This is the thread where you find out! Here's the idea - you post three things you like with a quick description of why, but one of them will be a WICKED PRETENSE! Then other people try and guess which! (or post their own) Then you confess after a discreet interval.

Go go go!

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 16:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Royal Trux - greasy, goofy, grandiose
El Vez - better than the real thing
Radiohead - smart like a scud

Horace Mann, Tuesday, 31 December 2002 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)

It's ILM Balderdash!

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 16:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, Horace...
Royal Trux is greasy, goofy and grandiose. So I'll concur.
El Vez hasn't entered his "Fat Vegas El Vez" phase, so right now he IS better than the real thing. So I'll concur.
But in the word of "smart bombs" a scud is in remedial toilet training, so saying "smart as a scud" is a bit of an insult. So...

Aha. Its a red herring. You actually DO dig Radiohead, so its obviously (eeny meeny miney mo...) ROYAL TRUX is the phonus balonus here!
Am I right?

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 16:37 (twenty-two years ago)

1. George Gershwin - I like Gershwin because he wrote amazing melodies, and made very complicated stuff sound simple. I guess he's kind of the Brian Wilson of classic popular music.

2. Igor Stravinsky - I don't profess to be a Stravinsky expert, but his music awes me. If I could study with one dead composer, it would be him.

3. Arnold Schoenberg - I like Shoenberg because of the way he turns academic composition on its head. He manages to break every rule set forth by ten generations of theorists before him, yet his 12-tone work is formally airtight.

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 16:38 (twenty-two years ago)

key to game: one of these things is not like the others...

I pretend to like Radiohead. I don't dislike them, proactively at least, but they don't fit in with my personal aesthetic tastes.

Horace Mann, Tuesday, 31 December 2002 16:39 (twenty-two years ago)

Schoenberg, Dominique?

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 16:40 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll take Schoenberg because your reasons seem just a touch academic, while your other reasons betray a bit of emotion. Unless you're playing with that, then I pick Gershwin. Who DOESN'T like Stravinsky?!?

Horace Mann, Tuesday, 31 December 2002 16:42 (twenty-two years ago)

A) Dubplate -- by OT Crew feat. Flo Dan: deep nasty bass and chantalong makes this like the scariest sugarhill record ever.

B) Avril -- Complicated: She's got that "how did I get here" casual attitude and those crunk super-synth guitars.

C) Miles Davis -- Miles Smiles: tight freebop makes my head hurt in a good way.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 16:44 (twenty-two years ago)

Schoenberg, Dominique?

Yes!

Like Horace said, if I can only spout the facts about someone, I'm pretending to like him.

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 16:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Ha! Best thread in eons!

Low - warm and sad simultaneously. Luxurious!
Beck - wonderfully vacuous fun. Pop's most gifted magpie!
Galaxie 500 - it's the deliciously dreamy vocal stylings of Dean Wareham that do it for me!

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Christina Aguilera, "Dirrty"

How do you make Redman's "Let's Get Dirty" even more delightfully gross than it already is? Add a diva who's completely out of her friggin' mind.

Black Dice, "Endless Happiness"

More bands should add six minutes of breaking waves to their tracks.

Audio Bullys, "We Don't Care"

I don't care what you do -- just wear leather when you do it.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 16:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Beck, Kilian?

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)

i'm not buying the "deliciously dreamy vocal stylings", kilian.

dan (dan), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 16:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Killian's G500 line sounds like a parody to me.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm going to say the obvious, Sterl: the ringer is Avril.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

1] chapterhouse - lovely shoegazing geetars with, like, dance beatz, man

2] tortoise - avante-guarde minimalist drone-jazz, yeah, man.

3] hypo - chopped-up glitch in a new order in a blender stylee, dude

masonicboom, Tuesday, 31 December 2002 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

I would have said "Gershwin." "Amazing melodies" doesn't tell me much about what the melodies sound like or why they're amazing.

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Dan and Nabisco win! I hate Dean Wareham's voice!

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 16:57 (twenty-two years ago)

What about people who pretend to hate things? Like Jess? *ducks*

Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Travis - "Why Does It Always Rain On Me?": Yearning vocals, plangent guitars - and a great hook!

U2 - "Where The Streets Have No Name": Yearning vocals, plangent guitars - and a great hook!

Coldplay - "In My Place": Yearning vocals, plangent guitars - and a great hook!

(ok sorry I'll do one with different reasons later)

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 16:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Daddino yr. right. I was trying to do a "b-but he's pro-pop" mindfuck but it fell flat b/c I really had a hard time pretending to like that avril song (sk8er boi on the other hand...)

I'm guessing Black Dice for you coz I don't think that you really like all those frikin breaking waves.

Kate: I'm guessing Tortoise coz it's not really that droney and you wouldn't name hypo coz that's too obscure.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:00 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh no! Tom likes Coldplay and U2! OH NO!!

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:01 (twenty-two years ago)

I would have said "Gershwin."

I was trying to be generic!

OK, Gershwin's melodies seem very feminine to me, and I don't really know how to explain it. Take a song like "Nice Work if you Can Get it": it's niiice woork if you-can-get-it...it sounds like something my mother would hum, and it feels warmer than the melodies of Cole Porter, which remind me of drunk single male gadabouts. But I couldn't write that above because I thought it would stand out too much from the other descriptions.

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I would've guessed U2 was Tom's ringer, but...

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:03 (twenty-two years ago)

1.

a) Jan Jelinek -- because I love crackly, mysterious DSP-scapes.

b) Jim O'Rourke -- because I love crackly, mysterious DSP-scapes.

c) Pole -- because I love crackly, mysterious DSP-scapes.

2.

a) DJ Spooky -- because I love it when music and theory are all of a piece.

b) Kraftwerk -- because I love it when music and theory are all of a piece.

c) John Cage -- because I love it when music and theory are all of a piece.

Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Momus: Jim O'Rourke and DJ Spooky.

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:05 (twenty-two years ago)

Haha Mike you know me too well. The Pet Shop Boys woke me up to the qualities of that particular U2 song and the Focus Group will reveal my sneaking liking of "In My Place" (Imagine my relief and disappointment when I heard "The Scientist"!). But the Travis song stinks.

Tom (Groke), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:07 (twenty-two years ago)

damn, sterling, u got it in one, but that's prob coz i didn't realise hypo were obscure when nick played them. damn u, blowing my newfound electronicred...

masonicboom, Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

mark p is kkkkorekt! How does he do it?

Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

tom,u wound me, i thought u liked *our* version...

masonicboom, Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Talking Heads - I luuuurve Happy Go Lucky popsongs by pompous sex robots.
Guided by Voices - What a beautiful loser: an alchoholic schoolteacher who takes the worst bits of prog and indie and makes it palatable.
World Party - Screw Oasis! This (along with XTC and the La's) is the closest we ever got to bringing back that Beatle vibe.

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:11 (twenty-two years ago)

mark p is kkkkorekt! How does he do it?

O'Rourke = too indie rock. Plus Jelinek/Pole too similar to discard one.

DJ Spooky = complete antithesis of analog baroque. Plus Cage/Kraftwerk too similarly canonical to discard one.

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:14 (twenty-two years ago)

GBV, lord Custos?

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Why NOT discard a canonical choice if you despise it!?

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:18 (twenty-two years ago)

Very sharp, Miccio. What gave me away?

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:19 (twenty-two years ago)

you wouldn't say something as witty as "pompous sex robots" if you didn't have some endearment for the guy. Btw, I'll be stealing that line in conversation from now on. I might have thought World Party if you hadn't said (along with XTC and the La's). Too specific not to be genuine.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:20 (twenty-two years ago)

1. Bjork -- because she is the new David Bowie, pop figurehead for avant plunder.

2. Bjork -- because she's the coffeetable Madonna.

3. Bjork -- because she has her ears wide open.

4. Bjork -- because she's bonkers.

5. Bjork -- because she's Matthew Barney's bird.

6. Bjork -- because I feel sorry for her getting her flat broken into.

7. Bork -- because she listens to field recordings of voles.

8. Bjork -- because she looks a bit Japanese.

9. Bjork -- because people from Scandinavia and beyond tend to be social and aesthetic liberals.

10. Bjork -- because who needs drugs?

11. Bjork -- because the idea of music progressing lives on.

12. The Boo Radleys.

Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:21 (twenty-two years ago)

Bubba Sparxxx: Sick, sproingy beats from Timbaland and Bubba's lazy flow evoke Southern charm, however forceful.

Steve Earle: Dusty geetars and a raspy leftist recall-from-arms pissily provokes the Southern swarm.

And You Will Know Us By The Trail Of Dead: Throat lozenges, band aids and earplugs all requisite standbys for their near dadaist brand of Southern alarm.

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll try this thing. I bet I'll fuck up though.

Streets - cuz I like it when you can tell what rappers are saying
Fred Durst - cuz I like it when you can tell what rappers are saying
Ice-T - cuz I like it when you can tell what rappers are saying

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Momus: 1-11 Bjork = non-musical = I guess that means you don't really care about her music?

dleone (dleone), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)

This game is less fun when all the reasons are the same.

But I'll guess Ice-T nevertheless. (Streets too loved, Durst too obvious.)

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Macy Gray: She's So Unusual
Esther Phillips: What a Diff'rence a Hit Makes
Aretha Franklin: Say It Loud-I'm the Queen of Soul

Sean (Sean), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)

1-2 are very apt musically. Though 1 ain't lyrically.

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)

wrong, Mark! And is yours AYWKUBTTOD?

Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe its a cliché, but who'd WANT to hear what Fred Durst has to say?

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:27 (twenty-two years ago)

Ice-T, Anthony?

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Styx - "Grand Illusion": Wonderful slice of pomp with devastating lyrics and jarring solo

Van Halen - "Panama": From the very intro, you know something's up. Ultimately, it's all about that desert-cruiser riff just before the spoken bit.

Queensryche - "Jet City Woman": A lump in the biggest throat ever.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Queensryche!

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:31 (twenty-two years ago)

1-11 Bjork = non-musical = I guess that means you don't really care about her music?

You could only call my reasons for liking Bjork 'non-musical' if you define 'music' in such a narrow way that it excludes almost everything that makes most of us here like it.

Avant plunder, coffeetable-ness, ears wide open-ness, progressiveness, a taste for field recordings of voles... these are things we hear. They are audible.

Momus (Momus), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 17:32 (twenty-two years ago)

If I did, however, I'd be very much about the blend.

mark p (Mark P), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 18:14 (twenty-two years ago)

*grins*

the answer was #2 btw

disco stu, Tuesday, 31 December 2002 18:18 (twenty-two years ago)

backstreet boys, Jel! Cuz N'Sync is the best boy band ever.
BAH! Menudo greases both bands without even trying. Then New Edition comes in and finishes off Menudo. Then Hansen strafes them all with 50 caliber machine guns.

hey. i can dream, can't i?

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 18:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Jon Spencer Blues Explosion-Cos the blooze are number one!
Loop-Cos' those riffs burrow a hole thru yr brane!
Prefab Sprout-Cos' "When love breaks down" is one of the best songs evur!

Michael Bourke, Tuesday, 31 December 2002 18:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Bob Dylan - for bringing the troubador tradition into rock n roll and mainstream appeal

They Might Be Giants - for the way they bridged heavy lyrical concepts with sunny easily-accessible melodies and arrangements

Dead Milkmen - for being funny fuckers

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Sterling, my guess is "Bubba Talk", just 'cause I personally don't find it in the slightest bit pleasing or interesting or anything.

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 18:43 (twenty-two years ago)

1) Black Dice, _Beaches & Canyons_: vast, cruel, dissolute
2) Fennesz, _Field Recordings_: DSP opens guitars into monoliths
3) Alan Licht, _Plays Well_: the secret Beefheart of Donna Summer

Douglas (Douglas), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 18:45 (twenty-two years ago)

The Cure - "Strange Attraction" (long-distance love turned sour by a face-to-face meeting set to a quirky fun beat)

Siouxsie and the Banshees - "Cannons" (rolling bombast in the rhythm section turns an exercise in rainmaking into a barbarian invasion)

Depeche Mode - "Home" (desperate loneliness and utter self-loathing is answered by an anthemic chorus and a cup of cocoa)

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

nickalicious doesn't like Bob Dylan

Michael Bourke, Tuesday, 31 December 2002 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Nickalicious you win and I think you don't like the dead milkmen.

and dan i think you don't like strange attraction coz the blurb seems somewhat dissociated.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Douglas: Black Dice?

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

Alan was right. "Grand Illusion" has moronic lyrics and an excrutiating solo. The only Styx songs I don't mind are "Miss America" and "Mr Roboto" because they temper their prog tendencies, which were best left to bands who could either play and/or come up with an original idea. "Jet City Woman" is at least nostalgically charming in its by-the-numbers power balladry. And "Panama" is actually, like, good. (What do you take me for, Nabisco?)

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)

DAMMIT. I knew I should have rewritten that.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Until jel's second post, I was wondering when he'd started liking either the Velvets or Nick Drake.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 19:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Michael Bourke is OTM. I don't like Dylan. If you ever see me namedropping him in a publication, you know I'm doing it for "critic points". he he he

nickalicious (nickalicious), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 19:15 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't think the beat on "Strange Attraction" is fun or quirky so I'll call that your bluff, Dan.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 19:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I really liked that song when the album first came out and HATED "Round And Round And Round". Then, after seeing them both performed live, my opinion on both flipped instantly; the chorus on "RARAR" became urgent and key and "SA" became an exercise in hellacious, pandering cockfarmery.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 19:28 (twenty-two years ago)

D'oh, I didn't that Sterling had already beat me to it. I used to like SA a lot more than I do now as well; I think exercise is just the right word for it. RARARARAR is still key though.

And here's my three:

XTC - "Mayor of Simpleton": Underdog song set to a simple but irresistable melody = awesome
Depeche Mode - "Stripped": Anthemic chorus let loose in a slow, relentless grind = awesome
Underworld - "Born Slippy": Half-comprehensible vocals in a blur of chords and pounding drums = awesome

Vinnie (vprabhu), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 19:34 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll second Black Dice as Douglas's ringer, if only because I know he loves Plays Well and is a Fennesz fan.

M Matos (M Matos), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 19:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Ooh Vinnie, that's TOUGH. My own bias is telling me your bluff is XTC; also, it's the most overtly-positive blurb.

Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 19:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Also: cruel and dissolute are not for use as superlatives.

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 19:44 (twenty-two years ago)

I'd have guessed the Depeche Mode.

nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 19:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, it's the DM one. Slow and relentless is not necessarily positive and in this case, it isn't. This game is certainly the most fun when you pick songs from three bands you like.

Vinnie (vprabhu), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 20:19 (twenty-two years ago)

I haven't said much about any of these artists in the past (since I haven't listened to these songs in a long time).

Cypress Hill: "How I Could Just Kill a Man." I just like it because it's catchy and I like saying the refrain over and over again.

Eric B. & Rakim: "Let the Rhythm Hit 'Em." I like the rhythms, the flow, and the little bit of electric keyboard that stands out at the end.

EPMD "Gold Diggers": I like it because it was the first song I heard that had that sort of drill-like synth. sound in it.

Rockist Scientist, Tuesday, 31 December 2002 20:43 (twenty-two years ago)

Aphex Twin - "Milkman": One of the highlights of the RDJ Album. The simple chords, quiet vocal, minimalist structure, and (often disturbing) lyrics are all classic Twin, and make for a challenging yet equally enjoyable piece.
Moby - "Mobility": Excellent. Hypnotic house drum loop and quiet, echoing vocal samples over soft synth chords and ambient bass.
Daft Punk - "Revolution 909": One more reason why DP are gods of the filter. Incorporating the crowd sample into the rhythm AND melody = genius.

Curtis Stephens, Tuesday, 31 December 2002 21:03 (twenty-two years ago)

M.'s defensio in extremis of Bjork would be so totally cute if it weren't, like, Bjork

J0hn Darn13ll3 (J0hn Darn13ll3), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 21:42 (twenty-two years ago)

rockist: cypress. yr description is too faux-naif by half.

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Tuesday, 31 December 2002 22:28 (twenty-two years ago)

Acts I've never really bothered to talk about on ILM until now:

1) Money Mark: His keyboardery is a highlight of many a Beastie instro, and the muddy strangeness of his MoWax debut Mark's Keyboard Repair is one of the best atmospheres in a record I've heard, a sort of "abandoned roller rink taken over by pot-smoking jazzbo squatters" vibe.

2) Crystal Method: They take a simple formula and run with it -- vamping acid freakouts with hyperactive breaks and a knack for putting together everything a song needs to stick in your brain, which in turn relays signals directly down to your ass declaring "OK, you start shaking now". Sounds at home on crowded dancefloors or bumping through the speakers of your brand-new WRX, aural caffeine befitting of the band's name.

3) Van Halen: Classic pop cleverly disguised as flashy metal theatrics. Roth's vocals straddle the line between "not very good" and "confoundingly, stridently great"; Eddie crams six minutes' worth of Jimmy Page guitar theatrics into a minute-at-most solo with Hendrixian efficiency; arena rock and cartoon blues supercollide and drop an A-bomb of burnout manna on semi-suburbs everywhere in Mid-America.

[JBR and Matos are verboten from guessing.]

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Wednesday, 1 January 2003 00:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Sterling, I guess I was sneaky, since I do like that song and that's really why. I am often that inarticulate about what I like.

I have to confess though that it's been a while since I've heard any of them, though I think I would still like the first two, and still not like EPMD.

Rockist Scientist, Wednesday, 1 January 2003 00:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, you got me. (Though I do like the pink-and-white Black Dice record.)

Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 1 January 2003 01:42 (twenty-two years ago)

haha nate no fair you can't play b/c you only pretend to like ALL that crap you listen to. </uncalled for and untrue trifesque jibe>

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Wednesday, 1 January 2003 02:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Money Mark?

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 1 January 2003 04:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Is that a guess or a question as to who he is?

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Wednesday, 1 January 2003 04:42 (twenty-two years ago)

(Actually it probably isn't the latter since I explained his identity in the first place. But no -- it's the Crystal Method.)

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Wednesday, 1 January 2003 04:43 (twenty-two years ago)

(was a guess, yes
((as to he is who, a question no need had i ask to))

t\'\'t (t\'\'t), Wednesday, 1 January 2003 04:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Horace!
El Vez is so fucking great! VIVA LA RAZA EL PADROTE! And Royal Trux is much to great to not be known better than they are. I love Radiohead but wish they'd sound less than Sigur Ro's these days.

Radio Blue, Wednesday, 1 January 2003 05:45 (twenty-two years ago)

Douglas, am I right that the giveaway was that you (or anyone in their right mind) would not customarily use the words cruel and dissolute as superlatives?

(This is all of course for the purpose of making a handbook on how to detect when people are pretending to like stuff.)

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 1 January 2003 06:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I think my Crystal Method blurb could apply to almost any mid-late '90s dance act possibly ever, save the references to acid and the band's name meaning METHAMPHETAMINES, DUDE!

Personally, with a name like that, I think they should live the gimmick of their nomenclature and wear Chevy logo muscle shirts and frosted permullets.

Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Wednesday, 1 January 2003 07:04 (twenty-two years ago)

No, I can think of stuff I'd call cruel and dissolute that I actively like a lot. Quentin Crisp, say.

Okay, here's another one:

1) Sarah Vaughan--if she'd croaked when Billie Holiday did, everyone would love her twice as much as Billie.
2) Peter Stampfel--if he'd croaked when Phil Ochs did, everyone would love him twice as much as Phil.
3) Janis Ian--if she'd croaked when Sandy Denny did, everyone would love her twice as much as Sandy.

Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 1 January 2003 07:30 (twenty-two years ago)

Janis Ian, no contest.

M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 1 January 2003 07:54 (twenty-two years ago)

(giveaway: the Sandy Denny comparison, you mad mad Fairport fan you)

M Matos (M Matos), Wednesday, 1 January 2003 07:55 (twenty-two years ago)

I had to transfer some Janis Ian masters to digital at one point, and ugh, how I wished I had earplugs.

Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 1 January 2003 08:08 (twenty-two years ago)

WRONG.

Douglas (Douglas), Wednesday, 1 January 2003 16:08 (twenty-two years ago)

yeah, I'm not much of a Sarah Vaughan fan either.

M Matos (M Matos), Thursday, 2 January 2003 05:19 (twenty-two years ago)

Oh, I guess your post is meant to say more about Sandy Denny than Janis Ian.

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 2 January 2003 05:29 (twenty-two years ago)

1) Sophie Ellis Bextor- Madonna became shit when she stopped being Italian. Bextor's more Italian that a skin-tight azure football kit.
2) Liz Phair- kinda like Lilith Fair gone right.
3) The Kinks- you know, you don't kill the mother when you execute the murderer, and you shouldn't damn them for creating Britpop.

Dom Passantino (Dom Passantino), Thursday, 2 January 2003 12:12 (twenty-two years ago)

Well, that's the Kinks, cos I remember you posted I HATE THE FUCKING KINKS elsewhere on this board...

1) The Coral - sea shanties in the top 40? Come on then!
2) Super Furry Animals - make Welsh cod-reggae sound like something other than an unbearably horrendous ordeal
3) Beck - Disco? Jazz? Blues? Folk? Whogivesasheeeit?

William Bloody Swygart (mrswygart), Thursday, 2 January 2003 12:38 (twenty-two years ago)

I like Journey for their obsessional quality, Styx for their inclusive quality and Foreigner for their repressed quality

dave q, Thursday, 2 January 2003 12:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Which quality does Foreigner repress?

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 2 January 2003 14:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Which quality does Foreigner repress?
'Quality' itself.

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Thursday, 2 January 2003 14:19 (twenty-two years ago)


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