Buck 65?

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Keep hearing hyperbole about this chap, went to see him in London recently, didn't think he was all that. anyone got any thoughts on the matter? am interested to see what you lovely musos have to say, especially those in the US and Canada.

Mr Binturong, Thursday, 2 January 2003 17:15 (twenty-two years ago)

never seen him live, but his albums, esp. his brand new one Square is extremely ballsy, and pretty damn good to boot.

horace mann, Thursday, 2 January 2003 17:43 (twenty-two years ago)

seven months pass...
just spent all day spinning "square". completely of the wall stuff.
kinda threw me back to mc900ft jesus style. excellent offkilter sounds and no thug shit at all. the newie due out soon is different again. more mellow and more real instrumentation based. hip-hop/blues connection. tis fine stuff. is this what anticon is all about. i have read but heard none as of yet ... leftfield/underground hiphop seems to have hit a rich spell as of late. or is it juts me lowering my sights due to lack of anything truly original ?
nah .. tis good stuff ..

mark e (mark e), Thursday, 7 August 2003 21:21 (twenty-one years ago)

this is on my shopping list. but i'm saving for a holiday so i can't buy much for a while. pah.

weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 7 August 2003 21:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I thought he was great when I saw him live a few years ago here in Chicago. His album Vertex from, I think, 1999 is awesome too.

Matt Kasperowicz, Thursday, 7 August 2003 23:12 (twenty-one years ago)

I have "Vertex" and "Square", both of which are very good, but I suspect "Talkin' Honky Blues", which comes out later this year, will be his best.

Simon H., Friday, 8 August 2003 11:01 (twenty-one years ago)

There's a 4 trk promo floating abt slsk at the moment. Looks like his putting his warners dollars into a full band and v. upfront production. No more lo-fi for Mr. Terfry.

Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Friday, 8 August 2003 11:19 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw him live yesterday. One of the weirdest hip hop acts I ever seen. He's all alone on stage, rapping with strange CD-R sounds, doing scratches, he even covered a Woody Guthrie song.

"Square" is ok, I like his collaboration on the latest Boom Bip album "Seed to sun" too.

Sami (Sami), Friday, 8 August 2003 11:23 (twenty-one years ago)

new one 'talking honky blues' is much more real instrumentation. not as twisted. but increasingly listenable. i need to hear more. need anticon stuff methinks and all the Lex releases. arhhh budgets ..
"Dear Mr Bank Manager. i Like leftfield hiphop and want more please."

mark e (mark e), Friday, 8 August 2003 11:28 (twenty-one years ago)

I'd love to hear this. Mark, I have a bunch of Anticon rarities I'm happy to dump on disc if you wanna do a cd-r swap ;)

Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Friday, 8 August 2003 12:10 (twenty-one years ago)

thank god theres no thug shit. i hate that shit. i prefer really 'abstract' shit like buck 65, boom bip and prefuse 73. y'know, beats that drive you into coma.

ambrose (ambrose), Friday, 8 August 2003 12:27 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw him live in April 2002, and was completely sold on him. I love his rhymes, his vocals, and the beats. I also found that his stage presence, and his sense of humour, was almost akin to Steven Wright (though I've only seen one live routine by Wright). Since that show I've gotten all of his albums (found many of them used, so I just kept buying them). I'd say the best ones are the last three: Square, Man Overboard, and Synesthesia.
The great thing about Buck is that he loves all sorts of music, and works a lot of different ideas into his work. Plus, he's been around for quite a long time, under different names like Stinkin Rich and . . . something else, but I can't remember what.
Ambrose, since you say you're into more abstract stuff, you may want to track down another Canadian hip hop guy named Noah 23. The album to look for is Quicksand.

Jonathan (Jonathan), Friday, 8 August 2003 13:58 (twenty-one years ago)

I haven't heard any of the records, but I thought his live show was totally compelling. He reminds me more of Devendra Barnhardt than Cannibal Ox or Sole or whoever. It doesn't even really make sense to judge him in terms of hip-hop; he seems to really have nothing much to do with it. Which is fine; I'll take backwoods absurdism over Gang Starr telling me that everything on the radio is faggot punk bullshit or whatever.

Tom Breihan (Tom Breihan), Friday, 8 August 2003 14:07 (twenty-one years ago)

i love square and vertex, but i think this record exists far ouside what, say, prefuse is doing (to be honest the more i listen to one word extinguisher, the more i'm totally and completely bored with it). the difference to me is that while herren appears to want to be "clever", which i find a little off-putting, terfry is just doing what comes naturally. while it makes total sense to judge prefuse 73 alongside dre's productions of, say 50 cent, (what the f*** is it with all these numbers?) because their actual *sounds* are not a million miles apart (dre better - that's why his records sell more), terfry's work is a lot more acoustic, folksy, bucolic etc, meaning that he really rubs up far better against cat power and state river widening than street rap... anyone heard sixtoo's antagonist survival kit here - if you like buck 65 you'l love this

Dave Stelfox (Dave Stelfox), Friday, 8 August 2003 15:21 (twenty-one years ago)

I saw Buck 65 in a tiny bar in Montreal a coupla years back and he was terrific. The Dj-ing with one turntable/MCing trick was pretty impressive. Sixtoo (Montrealer btw) is great. I saw him and P-Love at Mutek in June. Though I was a little off in wacky-tabacky land, it was head-noddingly good.

cybele (cybele), Friday, 8 August 2003 19:38 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
so i just heard talkin honky blues and on first listen it sounds pretty great. might lapse into the same cadence/rhythm too much but very nice detailed stories and tracks that i think are gonna wear well.

anyone else got opinions on this?

gaz (gaz), Friday, 31 October 2003 09:15 (twenty-one years ago)

It's great, I've been listening to it for the last week or so. On the first few listens it sounded over-long, but after a few more I decided it really works, all the little short tracks and the theme of the river running through it... It does get a bit downbeat and girly towards the end for a few tracks, bu the final track finishes it off lovely. Musically it could do with being a little less "nice" in places there's tons of great idea and great sounds. It's great to hear pedal steel in hip-hop.

Actually it's not really hip-hop is it? It's as much Tom Waits.

Steve.n. (sjkirk), Friday, 31 October 2003 10:40 (twenty-one years ago)

nowhere near as varied musically as waits though.

how does it compare to the bubba disc i wonder?

gaz (gaz), Friday, 31 October 2003 10:59 (twenty-one years ago)

i dont really think they are comparable at all.

Check out Buck live if you can - really the best live experience i have had for many a year.

jed (jed_e_3), Friday, 31 October 2003 11:15 (twenty-one years ago)

ok. hes here in december i think. whats the show like?

gaz (gaz), Friday, 31 October 2003 11:18 (twenty-one years ago)

its all love, gaz.

...it depends actually - sometimes he tours with a band or a support act. the best time was when he was on his own with his cd player and a turntable which he was scratchin on while he rapped/sung along. he stops often to tell stories or jokes, chats to people in the audience. The time i saw him he was his own warm up dj as well and introduced each song with a little anecdote before he played it. He is also extremely sexy and has great presence on stage - an interesting mixture of confidence and vulnerability. I fell in love, basically.

jed (jed_e_3), Friday, 31 October 2003 11:42 (twenty-one years ago)

where are you gaz? in the uk?

jed (jed_e_3), Friday, 31 October 2003 11:42 (twenty-one years ago)

'bout as much stand up as hip hop, gaz.

Nathan W (Nathan Webb), Friday, 31 October 2003 11:43 (twenty-one years ago)

i'm in the bottom of the world. i'll try and see him. the local release here is on warners so i guess hes getting some push...

gaz (gaz), Friday, 31 October 2003 11:46 (twenty-one years ago)

two months pass...
I just talked to the dude the other day. Awesome interview and I'm very excited about seeing him live.

Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 18:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Did he saw the word Bananna?

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

say say say

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 23:40 (twenty-one years ago)

4-6-3 is it? I so want Manitoba and him to get together and show the old world some canadian lovin'.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Tuesday, 20 January 2004 23:44 (twenty-one years ago)

He is, as the name suggests, undoubtedly three and a third times better than 50 cent, but that's still pretty shit. I'm sick of hearing him on the radio.

Sasha (sgh), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 01:48 (twenty-one years ago)

He's on the radio in Australia???
Wow, way to go Stinkin' Rich!

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 02:03 (twenty-one years ago)

I dunno. To me, everything I've heard off the new album sounds like he's doing a concept record about the Beastie Boys' 'High Plains Drifter'.

Sasha (sgh), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 02:10 (twenty-one years ago)

i think he just toured down here mr noodles

mullygrubber (gaz), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 02:13 (twenty-one years ago)

I remember when bus fare was $1.65.

Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 15:11 (twenty-one years ago)

I heard him talk about himself in an interview for London television the other night. I know they can make people sound dumb with the way they edit it but he sounded very very far up his own ass. Maybe white guys in the rap game get extra-self-big-uppy and self-serious as a defense mechanism but he was almost messianic about himself. Then they showed him "rapping" and it was really poetry-slammy. Just awful.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 15:28 (twenty-one years ago)

Yeah, as a rapper-qua-person whose merit is based on their ability to rap, he's not so good.
But he's more like Beck with a longer attention span. He absorbs everything (and really, everything, in a sort of obvious and maybe overly precious sense of the word "everything") and filters it through his own schemes, which are mostly wrong, but it comes out sounding good to me.

Luigi Vampa (Horace Mann), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 15:33 (twenty-one years ago)

Well there ya go! He's got a great name.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Wednesday, 21 January 2004 15:53 (twenty-one years ago)

four months pass...
Hmmmph. He looks at least a little like the guy who ended up with a young woman from Korea I had an enormous unrequited (despite--or maybe because of--a one-night stand) crush on. That's enough reason not to like him, even if he's not the same guy. (His name was Richard and he was from Canada, too, I think.)

Rockist Scientist, Friday, 4 June 2004 16:45 (twenty years ago)

You can't beat that with a baseball bat.

Huk-El (Horace Mann), Friday, 4 June 2004 17:03 (twenty years ago)

two years pass...
Saw him last night in Dublin for the second time in a really intimate venue. Very funny, has ditched the suit and wearing short sleeve shirts. Told some great stories about Show'n'Tell, where the songs come from and aired a 'brand new song never played before' (though it appears on ILE that he played it at Truck Festival) "Spread Em" which will be on the new album as well as one other that unfortunately I can't recall the name of. There might have been booze involved...

Regarding up-his-own-assedness described above I think it is a defence mechanism. He told a story about being on Canadian television and being asked what his most extravagant purchase was. He was broke and the first thing that came into his head was "New silverware." Go figure...

Really good fun and spent ages chatting to fans afterwards. He is just great entertainment. He knew which songs would be asked for as an encore so did a mash up of The Centaur, Food and 4-6-3. Was a lot better than it sounds! Touring with the CD-R and turntable again. Bloody Whelans [the venue] soundman though, one speaker right next to us kept dropping out which was really irritating. Still: Buck forevah!

Jed_ OTM above about falling in love, there was a lot of swooning in that crowd from both the boys and the girls!

Kv_nol (Kv_nol), Thursday, 27 July 2006 08:23 (eighteen years ago)

eleven months pass...

Ha ha 3 days off the anniversary! Saw him last night again. Again, "Spread em" was played. Album (Situation) should be out August/September and he'll be back again to tour that. Different venue (The Hub) so the sound was a lot better and you were literally right next to him. He was as funny as the others time

The encore was better this town, he basically did "4-6-3" and "The Centaur" like the versions on This Right here... but for "Food" he just tapped mike for beat with hand and let rip.

Again chatting to the fans after. Great stories including being stuck for a place to stay in the past and offers from both genders of bed and board should he so desire. As per usual Jed_ OTM about falling in love . A couple of other new songs chanced, more of the same really. Not a bad thing by the way. He was talking about collabs and things, what he played sounded really good if a bit familiar.

kv_nol, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 15:03 (seventeen years ago)

Actually that's probably his main flaw: It's all very same-y. I didn't know most of the first half but they sounded so familiar I might as well have if that makes sense?

kv_nol, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 15:04 (seventeen years ago)

I couldn't go see him in Galway this week due to insufficient funds. Depressing.

I know, right?, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 16:27 (seventeen years ago)

kv_nol, you charmer. he didn't play glasgow on this tour, which is a shame. i'd love a bit of buck in my life about now. i like that photo you posted on the man crush thread!

jed_, Wednesday, 25 July 2007 16:55 (seventeen years ago)

I know, right? That was unfortunate, Messiah J and the Expert were supporting and they're worth a listen. DJ Flip was warm up again this time and was very good. He had the last few copies of the 7 inch they did together. I didn't buy one due to a) lack of turntable and b) lack of interest. Are you full time down the west? I thought I saw you mention something about Dublin on another thread.

Jed_, cheers. Now back away from him ;p

kv_nol, Thursday, 26 July 2007 08:25 (seventeen years ago)

This thread made me put "Square" on the iPOD - although it's been years, it's aged pretty well & still remains an achievement.

Operator plug, Saturday, 28 July 2007 18:24 (seventeen years ago)

xpost Limerick mostly, my family are from Galway though and while unemployed I am in fact bumming around here. I'm in Dublin a lot due to the insanely crap amount of concerts that make it past there.

I know, right?, Saturday, 28 July 2007 19:52 (seventeen years ago)

This thread made me put "Square" on the iPOD

Guess what I'm doing right now???

Tantrum The Cat, Saturday, 28 July 2007 23:15 (seventeen years ago)

Ah right IKR, that makes a lot of sense. Rent free existence in the west sounds pretty good right now!

Speaking of gigs in Galway, I'm thinking of heading down to Roisin Dubh for Caribou's second night. I like the place but I never saw it before the renovations. Does the uni not get a good few gigs or are you really off the beaten track of MCD et al.

kv_nol, Monday, 30 July 2007 09:14 (seventeen years ago)

Hey wow! Thanks for the tip-off about that Caribou gig. I basically can't go to anything in August as I will be away, sucks about Battles, but I will definitely be at that Caribou gig now! Last time he was in Ireland he played Cork but not Galway.

It was so much nicer before the renovation. To the point where I have to moan about it every time we go there. Still, it's probably easier to see if you're at the back. The only gigs I remember the University having were Paddy Casey and things. At least the Art College in Limerick got CSS last year.

I know, right?, Monday, 30 July 2007 11:28 (seventeen years ago)

That's a good thing??

If I'm heading down I'll webmail you or something for FAP or similar. I'd love to go but it's getting people to go as well. He is epic live though so I know that the trip would be worth it!

kv_nol, Monday, 30 July 2007 11:50 (seventeen years ago)

No, its not really, but Lets make love was a pretty good single and erm....

Stupid sunday night gigs though, they mean an early monday morning for the bus. Last time was fourtet with Kid Koala though, and it was so worth it.

Shit, I'm gonna miss smog too!

I know, right?, Monday, 30 July 2007 11:55 (seventeen years ago)

Can't stand what I've heard from CSS, sorry.

Wait, I thought it was on a Saturday... Ah well, that puts paid to that idea anyway. Galway will just have to do without my 'Ian Curtis moves' as my dancing has been described by a person who dares call themselves a friend!

kv_nol, Monday, 30 July 2007 15:00 (seventeen years ago)

OMG GANG GANG DANCE are playing and I will miss them. Wuh?

I know, right?, Monday, 30 July 2007 15:19 (seventeen years ago)

Oh wait, Caribou are on a saturday.

I know, right?, Monday, 30 July 2007 15:20 (seventeen years ago)

Oh it's on now! Just have to convince people that it makes sense to travel down. I will work magic (poke with sticks).

kv_nol, Monday, 30 July 2007 15:29 (seventeen years ago)


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