― anthony, Monday, 4 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― JM, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Mike Hanley, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Sean Carruthers, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― anthony, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
I can see this question isn't going to cause much passionate debate...anyone want to own up to shooting Tubbs?
― pat kraus, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Stevo, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Destroy - as with Lee Perry, the other great dub 'brand name', there are tons of dubious Tubby comps and 'superstar' sessions on the market that often have little connection to K.T. Buyer beware!
― Andrew L, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
"Search & Destroy" means picking out what's good and bad in their catalogue, not hunting down and killing the artist in question. I know, it's a stupid name. Blame the NME. Or was it Melody Maker? Or Tom for reviving it? Anyway.
― Nick, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Dub did become overhyped and also somewhat misperceived in the late 90s esp, but Tubby and Perry both = fab. Ditto Pablo.
― mark s, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
I have some of his self-produced '80s material, (some of) which I really like but which isn't likely to be of much interest to ayone who's after roots dub.
― Tim, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Was Super Ape done wih King Tubby? I had no idea - can someone explain to me why on Super Ape there is a track called "Croaking Lizard" but I've also seen it credited to Prince Jazzbo. Why is there so much lack of documentation about this album? P.S. It's ace. Get it!
― dog latin, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
So in the case of "Croaking Lizard", yes it's a Jazzbo track but it's just as much an Upsetters track. There's not much to be gained by getting too concerned with who is credited with what in Jamaican music... often it's best just to trust your ears. When the same rhythm track gets passed around or sold between producers and re-re- used, things start feeling really quite complicated.
Incidentally, I don't really agree that "Super Ape" is a dub LP, but that's another issue. I haven't read 'People Funny Boy', the Perry biography which came out last year (I've read enough about Lee Perry to last a lifetime) but it is reputed to be exhaustively detailed. Perhaps you could find out more on "Super Ape" there?
Or something similar..
― Dog Latin, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
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― Norman Fay, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
Probably best to start w/ the Blood and Fire comps; good tracks, they sound nice.
― Mark, Tuesday, 5 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
"KTMRU" sounds like Tubby's to me, but then it was the first Tubby's record I knowingly heard, it probably would (it sounds more like Tubby than Errol Thompson to me). I think the absence of the crazier phasing and so on is more a function of its age... the crazier phasier stuff came a little later, no?
But yes, the Blood & Fire comps are "Dub Gone Crazy." A good place to start.
― duane, Friday, 6 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
― Johnathan, Saturday, 7 July 2001 00:00 (twenty-three years ago)
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Are these people kidding?!?!?!?!?!!, March 23, 2005
Reviewer: DC "Ras Smoke" (Big Bear Lake, ca. U.S.) - See all my reviews
Clavinet, flute?!?!?!?!? Augustus Pablo plays the Melodica people! And to say the album has "no names" on it! Maybe no names as far as pop music is concerned. Pablo and King Tubby are 2 of the most influential Reggae\Dub artists dead or alive!!!!! Comparing them to Bob Marley is equally as ignorant! Please review only items you have half a clue about!!! Thanks Was this review helpful to you? 9 of 9 people found the following review helpful:
Essential, December 13, 2004 Reviewer: T3 (At the edge of the road) - See all my reviews
I don't know what this reviewer is talking about "...also known as Glen Adams Upsetters keyboard player...". King Tubby is Osbourne Ruddock ONE of the originators of the style weh call 'rub-a-dub' alongside Lee "Scratch" Perry and another lesser known producer whose name evades me. For real the reviewer don't know what the bumclat she is talking about! very pretentious to think she can talk some bull-isht and get away with it! Augustus Pablo plays the melodica primarily, which is a children's instrument, a small keyboard which has a baffle and a mouthpiece to generate the tones. Clavinet is a floorstanding keyboard instrument which generates sounds similar to an electric guitar, and on some Jazz fusion records occupies the space of an electric guitar i.e. Herbie Hancock "Headhunters". Christina Roden, you suck. Amazon.com please remove this dubious and inacurate review please!
― Amon (eman), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 03:04 (twenty years ago)
For real the reviewer don't know what the bumclat she is talking about!
― Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 03:28 (twenty years ago)
???!?!!??!?!??!???!??!!?????!!!!!???????!?!?
― Amon (eman), Tuesday, 17 May 2005 03:37 (twenty years ago)
Via WFMU, "Tons of King Tubby 70s & Reissue Dub Discs. And all Cloud Links Actually Work [MP3s]:"
http://is.gd/SDoiGB
― cops on horse (WilliamC), Saturday, 21 September 2013 18:13 (eleven years ago)
Wow! Thanks WilliamC
― Pingu Unchained (dog latin), Sunday, 22 September 2013 07:29 (eleven years ago)
Is there as good a one stop 2cd set as the old Trojan set In Fine Style around now. I think all the Trojan sets from that time have been deleted haven't they? So am wondering if whoever's handling the Trojan catalogue at the moment has anything comparable.
― Stevolende, Sunday, 22 September 2013 09:28 (eleven years ago)
Meets Rockers Uptown is needed as well as that. Yabby U and Dub Gone Crazy on Blood and Fire also great.
― Hinklepicker, Sunday, 22 September 2013 10:34 (eleven years ago)
Blog already taken down, dang.
There is a huge amt of Tubby on Spotify, though.
― cops on horse (WilliamC), Sunday, 22 September 2013 14:02 (eleven years ago)
Love this stuff so much, but I could easily be fooled into buying sets with the same 20 or 30 tracks scrambled up in a different order.
― Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 22 September 2013 14:19 (eleven years ago)
Father of Dub 3-CD set (2009, Delta Leisure Group) = reasonable place to start or one of the many bullshit Tubby comps out there? Thx.
― alpine static, Monday, 9 February 2015 20:45 (ten years ago)
lol this thread is terrible and not informative at all
that set looks all right to me
― Οὖτις, Monday, 9 February 2015 21:12 (ten years ago)
Tubby did so much, it's kinda hard to call any particular compilation representative. My first starting point was coincidentally the source of contention upthread - Augustus Pablo's "King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown", which is definitely a great album, albeit not as flashy with the production and editing tricks that would come to characterize his career. My personal favorites:
- "King Tubby Meets Jacob Miller", especially https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42Ia9yan5mA. Whole thing has a great sound and beautiful analog synths all over it- "Dub From the Roots"- Yabby You/King Tubby's "King Tubbys Prophesy of Dub"- "Freedom Sounds in Dub". Freedom Sounds was such a great label, and this is Tubby working over some great cuts from their catalog.- Jah Lloyd/King Tubby "A Double Helping of Jah Lloyd and King Tubby"
― Οὖτις, Monday, 9 February 2015 21:24 (ten years ago)
xp: if you're paying close to the $8 ernie b is selling that set for, then yes I think that's a great deal. if you buy more Tubby later, chances are you'll end up getting some duplicate tracks (though this is nearly unavoidable in reggae ime).
Οὖτις's recs are all excellent too.
― rob, Monday, 9 February 2015 21:28 (ten years ago)
I say things are great a lot apparently
― Οὖτις, Monday, 9 February 2015 21:33 (ten years ago)
It's 7.99. Getting it. Thanks y'all. More in a bit.
― alpine static, Monday, 9 February 2015 21:46 (ten years ago)
So I've picked up the "Dub Gone Crazy" and "Dub Gone 2 Crazy" comps as well as the "King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown" LP. Absolutely love it all. What should I check out next?
― Gerald McBoing-Boing, Thursday, 22 February 2024 04:30 (one year ago)
^ All great! I'd add "Rockers Meet King Tubby In A Fire House" and "Harry Mudie Meet King Tubby’s In Dub Conference, Volume One"
― nerve_pylon, Thursday, 22 February 2024 04:41 (one year ago)