RFI: Phillipe (?) (was on tour with momus)

(Nick C to thread)

Much more of my respect goes out to The Gongs and Super Madrigal Bros.

This is strange...Nick (that's Phiiliip's label boss to you), Kate and I were talking last night about the EXTREME PREJUDICE the British mete out to their trustafarians and how that hatred is not applied to Americans in similar situations (by the British at least). I've met P on a couple of occasions and found his 'overconfidence' to be refreshing because he's willing to work harder than many others in a similar position. I think he's talented too, or at least has the potential to be as he is very young and already has gotten up off his arse and done something interesting.

xx paaauuule xxx (the e is silent, don't you know?)

their was an article in magazine recently which sophie cut out and sent to my bohemian friend, karen - the article was basically about the children of the wealthy who have decided to enter into the art world.

the one quote which karen laughs over is the film director/producer - "i want to make commerical yet edgy films" - their thoughtspeak belies their lack of talent. "and who knew, their i was playing acoustic guitar and kate moss was in my kitchen..." talent always shines out. unfortunately money does that as well. thus - the untalents thrive in britain. ugh.

however, my dr. brother in law, had a friend whom he went to cambridge with - his father is a high court judge, he has all the trust money in the world, yet, however, he's yet to make it after years of trying. right now he's plying his david gray sensibilities to unsuspecting office workers in a bar at nottinghell this very moment!

but talent does shine - regardless of class. the untalents just clutter up with their money and their unimpeachable backgrounds.

that would be revolutionary.

not a feed frenzy of money and lack'o'talent producing shite british film and musical act.

but again, talent always shines through....

I always thought the xtra i's in P's name were to duplicate a hand flippin' the birdie.

and working in a factory is fuckin awful. it wouldn't be revolutionary, it would be tokenist nonsense, if you're going to witter on about anything don't make it the Dignity of Labour (my old friend big robs, "work's shit but the money's good"), have it as everyone being able to make a bob or two out of loafing and lazing. but don't "untalents just clutter up with their money" apologise for your spotty trad-socialism!

Is a boring person more interesting with money? More apt to carry some sort of empty integrity without it?

And, yeah, I'm with doom-e about the extra letters thing. Barometer for flakesville, daddy-o.

You are of course entitled to an opinion, but generally speaking it's best to make sure it's somewhat informed/researched before weighing in with it. Presenting as fact inaccurate info about someone's background as the basis for the aspersions you cast on them is an extreme dud and not an opinion at all (if I did that at work I'd be out of a job/spiked/ticked off by editor/delete as applicable)

Doomie, we only get worked up about nepotism/inherited opportunity when it's flourishing in areas we want to be in; a plumber's son who is carrying on the family business is not the victim of our scorn, right?

As for blow jobs, my lips are sealed. (So to speak.)

My entitlement to a dissenting opinion isn't, and has never been, interrupted by some embarrassing namedropping hack telling me that it isn't informed, especially when all I've said is that he's a "penniless bore." Subjectivism, postmodernity,... I know it's a lot to swallow. ::pats Suzy gently on head:: Look, it all boils down to this... I saw him perform as part of Momus's recent tour - he was the low point of the show. Really pedestrian stuff. Sue me. Of course, this is coming from someone who lives in NYC, has seen a hell of a lot of performance art, knows about 10 people who make much more inventive uses of laptops and a Waiting For Godot-inspired stage-set, and needs more than an abstract social connection to Momus and "Steve" to speak with authority on an internet blog.

"I liked 3 out of 4 acts on the Momus Traveling Circus 2002... is that so WRONG??!?!!?"

Maria, so you know a few laptoppers and live in NYC? BFD.

Oh, that was the Satyrday Knights Roman Empire party! I was there, and took photos of those naked black men! That was pure Fellini.

This willy-nilly dispersion of excess consonants and vowels is just SO Nelly!

I note that Maria is doing the exact same thing, calling Steve Lafreniere 'Steve LaFrieniere'. Adding 'i's so that Steve can't Google in, perhaps -- ie the exact opposite reason I added them to Philip!

BTW, I totally accept that Philip can be a somewhat trying live experience. He plays live singing (rather flatly) on top of a MiniDisc backing. His gestural theatre is sort of a cross between Tom Waits and Iggy Pop (he's doing catwalk for a Dior show in Paris soon). Sometimes there are dancers (Kent Albin, ex-Fischerspooner, and some friends sometimes do calisthenics behind him), sometimes there's a video backdrop made by Ryan McGinley. Sometimes he goes a bit disco towards the end, singing 'Diamonds Are A Girl's Best Friend' with Snax. But sometimes it's just him being a bit autistic and twisting about, slurring druggily, with panda bear circles round his eyes.

I still don't know whether I want to check him out. The Gongs and Super Madrigal Brothers were two of my favourite albums last year. But neither
Phiiliip nor Rroland ever grabbed me as a concept.

Anyone up for telling me I've missed out on something fantastic.

Also Momus, will there be any more American Patchwork releases?

oh, ok, then, in that case i must have liked them...but, "mashed up beck" you can see why i was turned off by such a description;)

you must play him to me again, next time!

anyway, i'd like to second phil's question to Momus. Will there be any more AmPatch releases?

Lafreniere. There. Shall I write McCarthy too?

In the back there will be a "drummer." This person will be distinguished by sitting at a full-size desk and "playing" a desktop computer. He or she will provide drum sounds only. On one side of the stage will stand a "bassist" with a Mac laptop on an upright tray, and on the other a "guitar player" with a PC in the same configuration. All three computers will be linked via MIDI time code as well as instant messaging ("xtra 4 msrs b4 brdge!"). Various individuals will sing, and the "lead singer" may or may not be assigned to a "keyboard" laptop station.

If it works we can one day have the supergroup of Schneider TM (keys, vocals), Max Tundra (guitar, backing vocals), Ed DMX (bass, percussion), and Adam Lee Miller (drums).

Toog is LOVELY but I call him Gilles ;-)

His last album, Easy Toog For Beginners, came out in Japan recently and features an ace song about soldier statues getting revenge over the pigeons shitting on them over the years. Alarmingly, G may be at my birthday dinner faced with scintillating gay boy nursing major crush. So I don't get this corpse business as the world I'm in seems to be full of men, women and animals hankering after Gilles.

Are you in Paris now? Why can't they grow boys like Toog over here damn it!?!? :)

And why can't they grow boys like this over there? I blame baseball, hot dogs, apple pie and Chevrolet.

http://www.overwhelmed.org/toogfan/giles.jpg

http://image.allmusic.com/00/amg/cov200/dre800/e885/e885051ded3.jpg

Please please no one post pictures of Momus with his shirt off.