Dizzy Rascal - I Luv You

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I was just tipped off to this track by a friend in the UK who ranked it among his finest singles of the year; now, in the space of 48 hours, I think I've listened to it 50 times.

I'm too close to it right now to get any solid idea as to how much I actually like it, but for the moment it certainly *feels* like it should've been my single of the year. (!!) Grubby bass farts, a wall of messy, imprecise beats, this venomous rap and - this is the best part - a prickly, don't-fuck-me-around female spoken word bit that perks up out of nowhere and blows the song into a million pieces of grubby shrapnel.

Apparently Dizzy Rascal = a seventeen year old London kid who did this whole track w/ a mic and an iBook. Anyone know more?

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 6 January 2003 03:03 (twenty-three years ago)

I don't know more than that, but I have to agree the song is brilliant. His voice is a perfect mix between self-pity, venom and a tinge of paranoia. The music is fantastic as well. As you already know.

― fractal (fractal), Monday, 6 January 2003 03:16 (twenty-three years ago)

why. don't. you. check. the. other. threads

― zemko (bob), Monday, 6 January 2003 03:20 (twenty-three years ago)

I did! There's a few people calling it single of the year, but not much beyond that.

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 6 January 2003 03:23 (twenty-three years ago)

Arg. I just realized that this was Simon Reynolds' single of the year.

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 6 January 2003 03:29 (twenty-three years ago)

haha a mate of mine came back from some rave and said asher d said summat like: "and i'll take his mum and make his mum my mum" jolly good

― zemko (bob), Monday, 6 January 2003 04:01 (twenty-three years ago)

Has he done anything since? Neither Soulseek nor Google turn up much of anything.

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 6 January 2003 04:15 (twenty-three years ago)

Dizzie is in Roll Deep, they've done loads of tunes already, he's done a few on his ownl, too. Check www.rolldeepcrew.com I like I Love You but other Roll Deep stuff isn't very musical, to say the least!

― Fuzz, Monday, 6 January 2003 04:43 (twenty-three years ago)

I take it the track is awaiting an official release? I'm sure the labels are all over him, what with Dizzie Rascal voted most promising new British artist for 2003 on the BBC...

― JoB (JoB), Monday, 6 January 2003 09:09 (twenty-three years ago)

a seventeen year old London kid who did this whole track w/ a mic and an iBook.

Why do people always talk about how musicians used an iBook or PowerBook or Laptop or something equally uninformative, when what we actually want to know is what SOFTWARE they used.

Saying someone made their music using a "computer" is like saying someone made they're music using an "instrument". Yeah and ... ?

― phil jones (interstar), Monday, 6 January 2003 10:20 (twenty-three years ago)

haah guess what phil no one cares about that either

― zemko (bob), Monday, 6 January 2003 12:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Mark P are u in Lahndahn? I haf said this aboot 10 times now but check Deja Vu on 92.3fm on monday nights 10-12 for the Rolldeep show.
Also, check the 1xtra site for a 45 min Slimzee dj set featuring Dizzy Rascal on the mic.
This is what a friend Nick said about them:

But you really need to watch out for the 2 crews that have formed from the now-defuncy Pay As You Go Cartel, especially ROLL DEEP. They've turned garage (and, as far as I'm concerned, ALL music) completely on it head with a style which doesn't really sound like anything, or anyone else. Their producer, and 'leader', Wiley makes produces these records which my friend described as sounding like 'boxing matches in space'. They have NO beats at all, no '2-step' -- just these crazy distorted-to-the-max basslines and weird super-cheap sounding computer game-style noises, which sound almost like they come from the Legend of Zelda or Super Mario. I guess in its 'beatlessness', it is somewhat akin to with ragga, but it doesn't sound like any ragga I've ever heard. I guess some of the Neptunes productions are an influence too (some of the crazier ones like 'Grindin'), but again that doesn't get over the weirdness of it. It really does sound fresh. And then they have these incredible MC's over-the-top, who are so so so raw lyric and voice-wise, the best of which is this guy Dizzee Rascal, who just turned 17 6 weeks ago (they actually have another MC, 'Titchy Strider', who is 12). Dizzee has just put out his first single, 'I Love You', and it is easily my favourite single of the year. It's vaguely like 'Don't Mug Yourself' by The Streets but a million million time crazier, a million times rawer, and a million times better.

― _gi88y_, Monday, 6 January 2003 16:30 (twenty-three years ago)

Yes to the videogame thing definitely - music as beat-em-up!

― Tom (Groke), Monday, 6 January 2003 16:33 (twenty-three years ago)

Gi88y I'm in Toronto, which is probably why I was a little slow on the uptake with 'I Love You'. Thanks for the link, though. Will investigate now.

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 6 January 2003 17:31 (twenty-three years ago)

What, no beats AT ALL? Ambient garage?

― JoB (JoB), Monday, 6 January 2003 18:58 (twenty-three years ago)

'beatlessness'

Guess how I misread this.

― Jody Beth Rosen (Jody Beth Rosen), Monday, 6 January 2003 19:01 (twenty-three years ago)

heh.

― _gi**y_, Monday, 6 January 2003 19:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Download from Gabba!

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 6 January 2003 19:20 (twenty-three years ago)

Saying someone made their music using a "computer" is like saying someone made they're music using an "instrument". Yeah and ... ?

Phil, it's an important distinction to make because, despite appearances, many (if not most) laptop musicians use their portables in the context of larger, more versatile (re: expensive) home recording studios, where external samplers, compressors, mic pre-amps, mixers, outboard effects, etc do a lot of the work.

My point was that there's an admirable sorta-punkness to doing all that with just a computer and a mic...

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 6 January 2003 19:30 (twenty-three years ago)

I'm surprised it wz md on an i-mac actually i thght it was just like a 808 or summat ya get me? even so, mark p i concr it is very punka; diy as fuck all self released and the pirate community is one to rival olympia or what not.

― _gi88y_, Monday, 6 January 2003 19:41 (twenty-three years ago)

the pirate community is one to rival olympia or what not

Areal jumping
200 meter MC'ing (with hurdles)
Steeple mixing
Etc.

― JoB (JoB), Monday, 6 January 2003 20:21 (twenty-three years ago)

unimpressed by other rolldeep stuff so far, eskimo devil mix is supposedly wiley's masterpiece genresmash but aside from getting misty-eyed about the track being made by kids! from east london! music lives! and dreaming about the metapossibilities then y'know shrug

― zemko (bob), Monday, 6 January 2003 22:30 (twenty-three years ago)

quite like wileys 'bounce'. 'eskimo' left me a bit...err cold hehehe

most of this stuff is for djs with mcs to rhyme over - i have no crew therefore it sounds a bit boring on its own...
got something by hatcha today though on big apple 'bashment' thats pretty cool, if only for the little marimba tinkles.

― ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 6 January 2003 23:48 (twenty-three years ago)

trivia: i think hatcha works behind the counter at big apple

― zemko (bob), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 01:18 (twenty-three years ago)

more insanely good dizzy trax: hoe, go and jezebel (this one's on the net)

little bit of a common theme developing

― zemko (bob), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 19:08 (twenty-three years ago)

Take Time (Dizzy Rascal and Wiley) is kinda cute.

― Ben Williams, Tuesday, 7 January 2003 19:16 (twenty-three years ago)

While we're creaming ourselves over a Dizzie Rascal white-label 12"... Baby D, an Atlanta-based rapper on Big Oomp Records, has inked a multi-million dollar deal with Epic Records. The 18-year-old rapper has moved over 100,000 CD's independently through Big Oomp. "I am happy Epic won the bidding war for me," Baby D told AllHipHop.com. "I am humbled by the amount of money and the effort made by Big Oomp Records and Epic Records on my behalf.

― JoB (JoB), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 21:19 (twenty-three years ago)

So what's he sound like, then?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 02:37 (twenty-three years ago)

really good relentless farting

― naked as sin (naked as sin), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 02:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Dizzy Rascal & Wiley - Happens For A Reason = also grebt.

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 9 January 2003 02:35 (twenty-three years ago)

Blipment! Blipment! Blipment!

― Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 9 January 2003 04:29 (twenty-three years ago)

Sterling you've done it again.

― mark p (Mark P), Thursday, 9 January 2003 04:53 (twenty-three years ago)

three weeks pass...

hey um i just heard this track and uh... haha no er

dizzy and his brotha wiley opened for jay-z when he played london the other day

― zemko (bob), Sunday, 2 February 2003 22:56 (twenty-three years ago)

ned: 2 young drunk london lovers driving around, either arguing snippily with each other or bitching down their mobiles to their friends about it; tape player is playing clipse's "grindin" after it's been dropped and glued back together with baconfat. utter lack of good vibes (i keep imagining the Evil Dead sample coming in during the "I Love You" chorus - "you make me feel so GOOOD!", is that wrong of me?)

― Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Sunday, 2 February 2003 23:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Um, I guess it's pretty good... what am I missing? I don't see at all what's so earthmoving about this particular track.

― Andrew Thames (Andrew Thames), Monday, 3 February 2003 05:05 (twenty-three years ago)

To not love it = to not be young and hip and self-creating. *SOB* (Note: I haven't actually heard it and have no opinion on said cut.)

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 February 2003 06:02 (twenty-three years ago)

take time is even better

― gareth (gareth), Monday, 3 February 2003 07:37 (twenty-three years ago)

ned it's on gabba.net? c'mon join the bloody CROWD

― zemko (bob), Monday, 3 February 2003 08:46 (twenty-three years ago)

three weeks pass...

any one know where i can get the lyrics for 'i luv you??? if so please email them to me or get bk to me plz!!!!
gorgebaby@aol.com

― , Wednesday, 26 February 2003 22:05 (twenty-three years ago)

this track is a sonic mess. it's not good or bad, there's just this utterly alien energy to it which is hard to forget. it's mean.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Wednesday, 26 February 2003 22:38 (twenty-three years ago)

Could it be a hit, do you think? My girlfriend adores it which is usually a sign of commercial potential.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 27 February 2003 12:32 (twenty-three years ago)

i can see it denting the top 40 maybe if it really gets popular (i mean you wouldnt have thought Punjabi MC would end up in the top 5 this time last year right?), but currently my only awareness of its existence is down to ILM and Gabba, no mention anywhere else (i'm not reading mags or listening to much radio tho) - a video would be fantastic!

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 February 2003 13:03 (twenty-three years ago)

haha i feel almost protective of it now, how idiotic

i think it'd cause too much lyrical trubble in its present form sadly but i don't think it would need much tweaking

but roll deep are due to explode any minute now, they have more 'street' presha than more fire or sticky ever had, it's popular on 1xtra and that too

i don't think i've seen you mention 'i luv you' before tom?

― zemko (bob), Thursday, 27 February 2003 13:27 (twenty-three years ago)

anyone heard those wizzbit tracks by geeneus ripping off wiley?

― zemko (bob), Thursday, 27 February 2003 13:46 (twenty-three years ago)

also has ned heard this yet??

― zemko (bob), Thursday, 27 February 2003 13:47 (twenty-three years ago)

There's a post of mine upthread zemko agreeing w/the videogames thing. I downloaded it off gabba.net like everyone else! Would have gone in my download this list but I didn't want to kick anything out by that point, then I thought about an appendix but eh.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 27 February 2003 13:54 (twenty-three years ago)

how much do you consider 'I Love You' to be innovative as well as just 'great track' - its not just the element of innovation that makes it great perhaps but lets think about it - deep thick, almost mutated London accents - you get this on a lot of British hip hop and ragga over the years of course, the fantastic boy/girl battle as it were - great concept done in a very good way (now Skinner should find a female to spar with on the mic ;), nasty basslines straight from dancehall/jungle skool - the cherry on top for me is those mad 80s style synths, thats a really surreal touch for me and when combined with all the other things creates a sum total that just ends up sounding like something relatively new and different...then there's the way it was created and the fact that its just by a very young guy which is always exciting for me

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Who is the girl MC on it?

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:05 (twenty-three years ago)

Best noise on the whole track - Dizzee going "oh well"

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:05 (twenty-three years ago)

nah the girl's oh well is better!

― minna (minna), Thursday, 27 February 2003 14:09 (twenty-three years ago)

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― JoB (JoB), Wednesday, 6 August 2003 22:19 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

dizzie rascal is the bomb and is gonna be around for some time ithink

― tommy boy, Monday, 29 September 2003 19:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I Luv "I Luv U II" even more.

― adaml (adaml), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 18:03 (twenty-two years ago)

this thread's historic!

― cinniblount (James Blount), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 18:13 (twenty-two years ago)

chicken and beer

― adaml (adaml), Tuesday, 30 September 2003 18:21 (twenty-two years ago)

three months pass...

has it really been over a year?

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 05:22 (twenty-two years ago)

I read your initial post and decided that, in a parallel universe, "grub":the genre is rocking pirate stations and Lapp-raves from Watford to Brighton.

― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 05:31 (twenty-two years ago)

i feel a bit nostalgic for october 2002 now.

― strongo hulkington (dubplatestyle), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 05:40 (twenty-two years ago)

oh what might've been adam, oh what might've been

― mark p (Mark P), Wednesday, 28 January 2004 05:54 (twenty-two years ago)

FWIW, the Matador street team have apparently been putting Dizzee Rascal stickers in selected New York locations where smart young things gather. I'm excited.

― Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 1 February 2004 14:40 (twenty-two years ago)

haha 'el-p style'...

― prima fassy (bob), Sunday, 1 February 2004 20:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Yeah, that is a weird "first thing to come to mind" comparison (how about like every third disco track ever?).

― nate detritus (natedetritus), Sunday, 1 February 2004 22:18 (twenty-two years ago)

one month passes...

Dizee Rascal iz da best mc eva in da whole wi worl dey r da bomb buzzin 2 da max

― Emma, Saturday, 27 March 2004 22:03 (twenty-two years ago)

After seeing his show, I'd have to put him in the top 20.

― Spencer Chow (spencermfi), Sunday, 28 March 2004 01:27 (twenty-two years ago)

three weeks pass...

in the tune "i luv u" what does the lyric "captain rusko with a crowbow mean"???

― JzD, Sunday, 18 April 2004 01:32 (twenty-one years ago)

three weeks pass...

Semi revive to ask, anyone found a decent version of Take Time yet?

― minolta (minolta), Sunday, 9 May 2004 03:27 (twenty-one years ago)

nine months pass...

why. don't. you. check. the. other. threads
-- zemko (giaou...) (webmail), January 6th, 2003 3:20 AM. (bob) (link)

this wasn't the first dizzee thread?

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 28 February 2005 17:15 (twenty-one years ago)

this wasn't the first dizzee thread. december 22nd. on point!

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 28 February 2005 17:24 (twenty-one years ago)

wow embarrased to read my first ever ilm post. that dk post is great as well.

― scg, Monday, 28 February 2005 17:42 (twenty-one years ago)

this thread makes me really sad for some reason. i think maybe it's the gabba link?

also, whatever happened to zemko? i'm pretty sure he despised me but it was good to have his knowledge around nonetheless.

also, i am really pushing for "grubby" huh? i like sterling's "blipment" coinage too.

― mark p (Mark P), Monday, 28 February 2005 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

hold tight private pytlik.

― cozen (Cozen), Monday, 28 February 2005 20:54 (twenty-one years ago)

zemko still exists in varius guises
check the grime thread
the email gives it away

― ambrose (ambrose), Monday, 28 February 2005 21:53 (twenty-one years ago)

we like zemko

― adam.r.l. (nordicskilla), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 05:06 (twenty-one years ago)

he's a spiffy dresser

― Sven Bastard (blueski), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 11:59 (twenty-one years ago)

I love the innocence of this thread, like everyone's just fumbling around trying to find their way before this massive critical consensus emerged.

― Matt DC (Matt DC), Tuesday, 1 March 2005 13:47 (twenty-one years ago)

one year passes...

i luv u is still uber classic but it doesnt sound as amazing now as it did in 2002. i mean that was inevitable of course, but as a song im not sure it still sounds as impressive. the verses dont all stick to the topic and the last verse (which i think was only added later for the album if memory serves me right) sounds like a freestyle verse from a totally diff song. the beat is still quite astonishing though.

the slowed down remix is still a bit corny though. too sickly sweet.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Friday, 26 January 2007 12:46 (nineteen years ago)

i think its just that there isnt much depth to this and the verses sound like theyre all from different vaguely-girl related songs...

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Friday, 26 January 2007 13:19 (nineteen years ago)

"Jezebel" is miles better.

― The Android Cat (Dan Perry), Friday, 26 January 2007 13:27 (nineteen years ago)

ahhhh zemko

― m@p (plosive), Friday, 26 January 2007 13:37 (nineteen years ago)

http://www.piccadillyhotel.net/hostel-london-images/big_ben_london_hostels.jpg

― tsk. (mwah), Friday, 26 January 2007 14:25 (nineteen years ago)

hahaha

― m@p (plosive), Friday, 26 January 2007 14:48 (nineteen years ago)

ONE OF USTHEM

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 26 January 2007 14:57 (nineteen years ago)

wow the nostalgic rush of 2003

― acid waffle house (dubplatestyle), Friday, 26 January 2007 15:07 (nineteen years ago)

anyways

this is still one of the great songs

and with its remix, one of the great 1-2s

they both say the same thing you see

i'm not hearing anything against them today.

― tsk. (mwah), Friday, 26 January 2007 15:30 (nineteen years ago)

This song is considerably less interesting without the female counterpoint, as I discovered when I saw him a couple of years ago; in this incarnation it was really Showtime's "Girls." Still a terrific debut album.

― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn (Alfred Soto), Friday, 26 January 2007 15:56 (nineteen years ago)

zemko otm

― Tim Finney (Tim Finney), Friday, 26 January 2007 16:38 (nineteen years ago)

showtime's girls is BRILLIANT except it gets spoiled by marga man.

― titchyschneider (titchyschneider), Friday, 26 January 2007 16:50 (nineteen years ago)

zemko otm. bizarrely we listened to this on boxing day and my parents were really feeling it! crazy.

― toby (tsg20), Friday, 26 January 2007 23:37 (nineteen years ago)

three months pass...

you know, i haven't listened to either dizzee album in some time but this fuckin song

― strongohulkington, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

it will stand the test of time AND space

― strongohulkington, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

c. sinker

― strongohulkington, Monday, 21 May 2007 16:53 (eighteen years ago)

what are the essential remixes/versions? I deleted all of them on accident.

― Steve Shasta, Monday, 21 May 2007 17:05 (eighteen years ago)

man, this thread

― ^@^, Monday, 21 May 2007 17:28 (eighteen years ago)

I only bought Boy In Da Corner about five months ago so I've actually been playing the shit out of the whole thing. SO SO SO SO GOOD.

"Wot U On" and "Jezebel" are my new anthems.

― HI DERE, Monday, 21 May 2007 18:01 (eighteen years ago)

wot

― Catsupppppppppppppp dude ‫茄蕃‪, Monday, 21 May 2007 18:09 (eighteen years ago)

i keep going back to 'stop dat' these days for some reason

― lex pretend, Monday, 21 May 2007 18:19 (eighteen years ago)

stop dat i listen to over and over when im angry on london transport and hate everyone.

this album is still brilliant. i skip fix up look sharp though for grime purist reasons lol.

anyone else but me get annoyed at the fact the album version of i luv u has an extra verse at the end?

― titchyschneiderMk2, Monday, 21 May 2007 20:29 (eighteen years ago)

shameless selfpromotion

― Siegbran, Monday, 21 May 2007 21:22 (eighteen years ago)

ah i loved that!!! thanks, my mp3 had got lost in the great computer changeover.

does it actually exist in a better bitrate btw?

― lex pretend, Monday, 21 May 2007 21:55 (eighteen years ago)

also: yup, still got 'i luv u' off by heart

― lex pretend, Monday, 21 May 2007 22:03 (eighteen years ago)

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