This got me thinking about band names in general and how they're chosen. I've always thought bands naming themselves after an obscure record by a band they love, as flippin' loads of them do, is a bit tragic and obvious (Starsailor, anyone?), unless the band sounds absolutely nothing whatsoever like their name might imply (uh, hello, Starsailor?).
But, I've always loved the idea that bands can align themselves with some sort of nebulous "movement" just by chosing a certain sort of name: all the "The So-and-sos" hanging around a scummy pub near you right now, for example, or the early '90s penchant for four-letter names (Blur, Ride, Lush) and, oddly, a predilection cows (Milk, Cud, er, Inspiral Carpets).
And, lest we forget my favourite, the whole "stuff clothes are made of" genre: Suede, Felt/Denim, Corduroy et al.
Literature (The Divine Comedy) and films (uh, Three Colours Red, Delicatessen, Kenickie etc) have obviously also been plundered heartily.
So...thoughts on this? Does the classic fanzine question "where did you get your name" really provide any relevant responses? Have you ever gone off a band when you discovered the motivation behind their name? And by the same token, has your discovery that a band you don't know much about named themselves after something extremely cool, ever made you prick up your ears and have a listen?
I'm currently frustrated that I can't find out where my new favourite band prol-tung got their name, almost to the extent that it mars the listening experience by getting in the way in my head..."y'know, "The Alchemist" is a fab tune, but...aaaargh! Where did they get their name?" NB. This might just make me a sad git, in which case fair enough.
So...names. Why? Favourite explanations? Most half-arsed attempts at cred-grabbing? Does it really matter? Answers on a postcard...
― Charlie (Charlie), Monday, 6 January 2003 06:45 (twenty-two years ago) link
Oh, and my favourite, for the record, is either Pulp (Arabacus Pulp, some kind of commodity on the stock market apparently) or Pixies (picked at random from a dictionary by Joey Santiago, as I recall).
― Charlie (Charlie), Monday, 6 January 2003 06:49 (twenty-two years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Monday, 6 January 2003 10:49 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Monday, 6 January 2003 13:24 (twenty-two years ago) link
Exactly! But why is that? It's not like it isn't a good film, but to align yr band with it (and the adherent lifestyle) seems horribly, punchably desperate.
Likewise, the appearance of Hepburn and, to a letter extent, The Drowners, made me reach for the keys to the gun cabinet...Steely Dan, somehow, isn't offensive at all...perhaps just obscure/cred/initially incomprehensible enough for it not to grate.
I await with interest the appearance of Strummer (Louis Walsh's answer to Deep Blue Something) and Turquoise Hexagon Sun (anonymous indie drummer goes glitch with hilarious consequences).
― Charlie (Charlie), Monday, 6 January 2003 21:37 (twenty-two years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Monday, 6 January 2003 21:43 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Monday, 6 January 2003 22:18 (twenty-two years ago) link
Who would have thought it?
― sonicred (sonicred), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 00:29 (twenty-two years ago) link
Next up, Howard Donald reveals he coined the name Take That after watching Umberto Eco's "Accidental Death Of An Anarchist"...
― Charlie (Charlie), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 00:37 (twenty-two years ago) link
That's my experience, therefore the only thought I give a band name is "Oh, that sounds good" or "Oh, that sounds crap" because that's usually the level of thought that the band themselves have given it.
We'll see if I really do end up calling my next band "The Phantom Phingertip" after all.
― kate, Tuesday, 7 January 2003 00:58 (twenty-two years ago) link
― T. Weiss (Timmy), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 03:22 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Charlie (Charlie), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 03:34 (twenty-two years ago) link
I've never been fond of the b-movie titles, especially budget horror films (e.g. My Bloody Valentine, 10,000 Maniacs). I would say I wasn't fond of the mid-90s alterna-rock "common household items likely to be found in kitchens" trend (Sugar, Flour, Ammonia, Spoon) but it's incredibly fun to make jokes about, so it's served a purpose. The last time I tried to make a joke about this somewhere on ILE my parody example turned out to be an actual mid-90s alterna-rock band.
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 03:52 (twenty-two years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 03:56 (twenty-two years ago) link
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 04:07 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Andrew Farrell (afarrell), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 14:44 (twenty-two years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 15:49 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 15:59 (twenty-two years ago) link
Still the bass player had previously been in a band that were forced to call themselves the Swords Charlie Don't Surf as they were from Swords and there were at least 2 other bands in Dublin called Charlie Don't Surf.
Still I never found another Flying Paxo Twins, because obviously its a crap name.
― tigerclawskank, Tuesday, 7 January 2003 16:11 (twenty-two years ago) link
errr... there are LOADS more but I can't remember them off my head...
― dog latin (dog latin), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 19:40 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 20:03 (twenty-two years ago) link
― locus solus, Tuesday, 7 January 2003 20:56 (twenty-two years ago) link
you actually got one of those right.
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 21:16 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 21:17 (twenty-two years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 22:09 (twenty-two years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 22:11 (twenty-two years ago) link
― nabisco (nabisco), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 22:12 (twenty-two years ago) link
See, those are all great names! But maybe if I had a clue what the Illuminatus! trilogy was, I might not think so...argh, it's so complex!
nb I always thought KLF stood for Kings of Low Frequency? Or was that another Drummond/Cauty pisstake on LFO's po-facedness or something..?
― Charlie (Charlie), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 22:20 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Charlie (Charlie), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 22:22 (twenty-two years ago) link
Read Illuminatus. Everybody should.
― Zora (Zora), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 23:16 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Charlie (Charlie), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 23:30 (twenty-two years ago) link
― T. Weiss (Timmy), Tuesday, 7 January 2003 23:57 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Siegbran (eofor), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 00:03 (twenty-two years ago) link
Sonic Youth is a really terrible band name when you stop to think about it.
I think Yaphet Kotto is an awesome band name, especially since most fans of the band probably don't know its origins. Naming your punk band after politicians, though, is a quick way to make me hate you. (Dead Kennedys being an exception, mostly because they were one of the bands that got me into punk in the first place. If I had never heard of them until this very moment, I would probably shun them for having such a shite name.)
― Ian Johnson, Wednesday, 8 January 2003 00:21 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Ess Kay (esskay), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 01:34 (twenty-two years ago) link
Sadly, 'death & dismemberment' insurance isn't uncommon in real life; my old high school actually sent home forms to our parents so they would be insured if we were dismembered or killed in school. You actually receive more money if you lose all of your limbs than if you die. I wonder what quadraplegics think of that... being considered worse off than a dead man.
― ian johnson, Wednesday, 8 January 2003 01:47 (twenty-two years ago) link
the more i think about it, i'm sure KLF meant tons of things, much like EMF was open to interpretation. I like bands who use acronyms but won't disclose what they stand for, it's FUN.
Bus as an aside, I thought Bentley Rhythm Ace was a great name til I noticed its acronym...idiots.
― Charlie (Charlie), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 01:52 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Chewshabadoo (Chewshabadoo), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 02:42 (twenty-two years ago) link
― J (Jay), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 03:10 (twenty-two years ago) link
I really rather like Pam's Tan as a name, but it was in fact, as you mentioned, Black Car. The others were Upstairs and The Book Lovers (although Accidentals was also considered)..
― electric sound of jim (electricsound), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 03:13 (twenty-two years ago) link
This reminds me, Hot Water Music were named after the Bukowski book.
― Ian Johnson, Wednesday, 8 January 2003 03:47 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Sean (Sean), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 03:53 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Charlie (Charlie), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 04:05 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Chriddof (Chriddof), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 05:41 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Charlie (Charlie), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 05:46 (twenty-two years ago) link
I quite dislike the "twee" band names, Talulah Gosh and Field Mice and Another Sunny Day. But they absolutely serve their purpose, which is to attract certain people and repel others. They reveal something of the contours of the genre and its limitations.
― Amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 08:57 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 09:56 (twenty-two years ago) link
Godflesh, simillarly, used to call themselevs Fall of Because, also a Killing Joke song (and originally an allusion to Aleister Crowley's writings, I do believe.)
Sisters of Mercy, according to Baron Andrew Von Eldritch, was not named after the order of cut-the-crap nuns as one might immediately suspect, but rather from the title of a Leonard Cohen song about prostitutes.
Cringe-worthy industrial goons, Spahn Ranch, are named after a one-time Manson Family compound, which they probably learned from Vince Bugliosi's book, "Helter Skelter."
Equally cringe-worthy, bald, meatnecked nu-metal band, Mad Parade, take their name from a line in the Pistols' "God Save the Queen."
― Alex in NYC (vassifer), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 15:09 (twenty-two years ago) link
Bentley Rhythm Ace are named after the Bentley 'Rhythm Ace' drum machine...
― michael (michael), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 15:22 (twenty-two years ago) link
― N. (nickdastoor), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 15:27 (twenty-two years ago) link
― Eyeball Kicks (Eyeball Kicks), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 15:43 (twenty-two years ago) link