Pazz And Jop Predictions?

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Jumping Fences are collating critics faves from various web and magazine polls: Jumping Fences - Critics' Best 100 Albums of 2002

This is the top 50 at the mo: [ I would expect a high percentage (say 75% +) of these: will also feature in the top 50 in "Pazz And Jop" poll ]

The Flaming Lips Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots Ø JF Pick
The Streets Original Pirate Material Ø
Beck Sea Change Ø JF Pick
Queens of the Stone Age Songs for the Deaf Ø
Wilco Yankee Hotel Foxtrot Ø JF Pick
Coldplay A Rush of Blood to the Head Ø
Interpol Turn on the Bright Lights Ø
Bright Eyes Lifted or the Story is in the Soil, Keep Your Ear to the Ground Ø JF Pick
Eminem The Eminem Show Ø
...And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead Source Tags & Codes Ø
The Libertines Up the Bracket Ø JF Pick
Missy Elliott Under Construction Ø
Doves The Last Broadcast Ø
The Notwist Neon Golden Ø
Spoon Kill the Moonlight Ø
Bruce Springsteen The Rising Ø
Sigur Ros () Ø
Boards of Canada Geogaddi Ø
Sonic Youth Murray Street Ø
Solomon Burke Don't Give Up on Me Ø
The Vines Highly Evolved Ø
The Coral The Coral Ø
2 Many DJ's As Heard on Radio Soulwax Pt. 2 Ø
The Roots Phrenology Ø
Lambchop Is a Woman Ø
DJ Shadow The Private Press Ø
Beth Gibbons & Rustin Man Out of Season Ø
Elvis Costello When I Was Cruel Ø
Sleater-Kinney One Beat Ø
Tom Waits Alice Ø
Liars They Threw Us All in a Trench and Stuck a Monument on Top Ø
Blackalicious Blazing Arrow Ø
Johnny Cash The Man Comes Around Ø
The Polyphonic Spree The Beginning Stages of... Ø
Badly Drawn Boy Have You Fed the Fish? Ø
Clinic Walking with Thee Ø
Tom Waits Blood Money Ø
Tocotronic - Tocotronic Ø
Ms. Dynamite A Little Deeper Ø
Steve Earle Jerusalem Ø
Red Hot Chili Peppers By the Way Ø
McLusky McLusky Do Dallas Ø
EL-P Fantastic Damage Ø
Godspeed You Black Emperor! Yanqui U.X.O. Ø
Idlewild The Remote Part Ø
Foo Fighters One by One Ø
Radio 4 Gotham! Ø
Weezer Maladroit Ø
David Bowie Heathen Ø
RJD2 Dead Ringer Ø

1) Wilco

2) Tom Waits

3) Solomon Burke

4) Queens of the Stone Age

5) Beck

6) Flaming Lips

7) Roots

8) Bruce Springsteen

9) Spoon

10) Streets

Those are the only sure-fire bets, imo, unless some upsets like Ron Sexsmith or the Hives or DJ Shadow (notice how many critics always have to pick "token" choices out of as many genres as possible, in order to parade lists as being "well-rounded") etc. blast their way in by gaining point dominance on the lower end of the ballots. Those three artists should fairly easily make it into the 11-25 spot, along with (and the order here is always unpredictable): Coldplay, NERD, Interpol, Sonic Youth, Super Furry Animals, Missy Elliott, Sigur Ros, Sleater-Kinney, Bright Eyes, Eminem, Steve Earle (the country candidate!) and the Vines.

Warning: don't be put off by surprise showings, however, of somewhat critically mixed relases by Andrew WK or TLC to also show up here, or for peeps who didn't get that much media attention as well, like Scarface or Soundtrack of Our Lives. Also Felix Da Housecat, of course, considering how high it was in Spin, but I reckon that's more 25-40ish.

After that, the sure bets for the last stretch of the top 40 should include the following (who have either been championed by only some publications/crits, but not others, or only by some facets of an "underground" or sigular faction in criticism, whatever it may be, but not enough to form a widespread consensus): Metro Area, Blackalicious, Foo Fighters, El-P, Boards of Canada, Elvis Costello, Doves (actually those last two could rush the 11-25 if they get enough point value, but I'm uncertain), Trail of Dead, Norah Jones, Liars, Red Hot Chili Peppers (they are overdue here, making their P&J top 40 debut, but not a spectacular one methinks - for the same reasons they never made a dent before), Linda Thompson, Badly Drawn Boy, Warren Zevon (they can't forget him THIS year), Talib Kweli (a P&J fav - more hip-hop entries needed for balance, no?).

The surprises that you shouldn't be so surprised about over here in 25-40 land are acts who came out early in the year but have now been overshadowed by others, such as Clinic and Cee-Lo and Musiq, as well as more critically-mixed releases by nonetheless-favorites like Johnny Cash and the Breeders. I don't think Audioslave have a shot, at this point, and am up in the air about that Best Bootlegs in the World album, as I think even underdogs like Ben Kweller will have an esier time in 25-40 than such novelties (but just wait and see, his spot as "extremely-young-American-prodigy-to-root-for will likely be stolen by Bright Eyes). It's hard to make predictions like this in a year with no Ryan fucking Adams/Whiskeytown or Dylan present. Gosh, if only Ryan or Bob had put out another live/compilation album - why by golly, they did, and aren't both included in the Rolling Stone 50 albums of the year? Jiminy!! (So don't be surprised by that either).

Of course, considering how nostalgic and/or "rockist" some of the stalwarts can get 'round voting time, something like George Harrison or the Pretenders can also be expected to crash that 25-40 block shamelessly, but I can pray for Justin, can't I ?

Metacritic

1.Queens Of The Stone Age
Songs For The Deaf 89

2 Tom Waits
Alice 89

3 The Roots
Phrenology 88

4 Ron Sexsmith
Cobblestone Runway 87

5 The Streets
Original Pirate Material 87

6 Wilco
Yankee Hotel Foxtrot 86

7 Spoon
Kill The Moonlight 86

8 Solomon Burke
Don't Give Up On Me 86

9 Super Furry Animals
Rings Around The World 84

10 Wire
Read & Burn 02 [EP] 84

i wz very diffident abt even sending in my singles vote, which was pop tarty in the extreme, even by my slack-jawed standards, but i guess i wz forgetting i wasn't voting in the pop-rich context of ILM

Springsteen
Wilco
Beck
Flaming Lips
Eminem
Coldplay
Missy
Queens of the Stone Age
Bright Eyes
The Streets

can someone tell me abt why this is so special.

Pazz and Jop

Lady, if you have to ask...

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Albums: Wilco 1st, Sleater-Kinney top 5, Streets and Eminem top 10 (possibly the Roots as well, 'cause of all the Sunday school teachers who vote); Northern Light gets one and maybe two spots in the top 40 even though none of their music was available for sale in stores. Dixie Chicks finally make the 40. I'd say "snowball's chance in hell" of Solomon Burke in the top 10, but I'd have said the same thing last year of Ryan Adams.

Singles: "Work It" and "Lose Yourself" place 1 and 2, "Oops (Oh My)" top 10, Kylie top 20. Serial Rhyme Killers get at least one vote.

Thanks for nothing. ;-)

If "Lose Yourself" gets anywhere in the top ten, then my fundamental view of the stupidity of the world is reconfirmed. But that doesn't take much.

No clue about the albums, and don't really care much especially as I assume the Tweet album won't even place.

It was pretty cool to see some ILX-ers in there, though (yourself, Mark P...I believe that's it, right? I was hoping Sundar would've been in there, too, or Kim).

(Just in case anyone out there cares, here's what we're talking about.)

1. The Eminem Show
2. Sea Change
3. Yankee Hotel Foxtrot
4. The Rising
5. Jerusalem
6. Alice
7. One Beat
8. The Streets
9. The Private Press
10. Yoshimi Battles the Pink Robots

Maybe not in that exact order, but something like it.

One Beat and YHF will finish higher than that, The Private Press lower, Jerusalem much lower. Sea Change could finish anywhere from second to twentysecond (I'd have a better idea where if I liked the record). The Hives will finish top ten, and I've probably already bitten off more than I can chew re: the Streets and the Pazz & Jopp but my guess is Pink finishes higher, maybe No Doubt, the Roots, and (darkhorse) Cody ChesnuTT as well.

Where's this Dylan record gonna rank? (top 30, maybe top 20)

Someone who's not posted here yet knows more than they're telling (and I don't mean C. Eddy)

(btw, am I the only one here that thinks half the tunes/arrangements on the Beck CD have been lifted from '70s Stones/Dylan? And wasn't he much more interesting when he was trying hard to be ironic?)

Bruce, on the other hand, has plenty to say, just not a particularly interesting way of saying it (particularly interesting for 2002, that is). Or maybe it’s just his work with his band that’s not so gosh almighty interesting these days. Hey, maybe Bruce should have hired Wilco as his backup for The Rising! I think that would have made for a much more interesting combination of talent than his recent work with the E. Street Band for sure. Besides, how could they Wilco resist the great honor bestowed upon them by Herr Boss? I mean, he has been this era’s answer to Woody at least since the early ‘80s, hasn’t he?

That leaves Eminem, who really didn't seem to have any seriously outstanding competition last year—at least as far as I can tell—as he did in 2000. I mean, where's 2002s Stankonia, or Stories from the City, or Kid A, I ask you?

Steve Earle, S-K and DJ Shadow are mostly wishful thinking on my part, but so what. Why can’t people just vote for great albums, as opposed to what’s fashionably hip in any given year?

Also, I actually much prefer Blood Money to Alice but I don't think it will do as well pollwise. Sad. And I really wish the mekons could do better than they will (probably in the 50-80 range, I predict). The Greatest Bootlegs CD will probably place in the top 40, assuming that anyone outside of NY other than me has even heard it (downloads don’t count in my book).

I haven't really gotten into Yoshimi just yet, so I don't really understand what's up with that one.

And I think you’re probably right about the top 2 singles, but I’m betting Eminem comes up top anyway.

Surely you mean Northern STATE, don't you, Frank?

PS: Stop hatin', Tony.

And I liked the single "God Gave Me Everything I Want" way more than anything Bruce did. I'd probably argue it's the worst album of Bruce's career. Especially lyric-wise, I think he got his adjectives via mad libs. And I frikkin' love his '80s output.

It would take some time to clean off, and that would be sad.

a shining example of Em's narrative skills

To reference another point elsewhere, the concept of Eminem, skillful narrator, makes me boggle as much as Keanu Reeves, action hero.

Ned, even you must admit that Em's better at acting than Keanu is at playing bass.

His breathing is better than Keanu's playing.

When I was attended UVa, we had a modern studies prof. who lectured about Keanu and how he was a genius because he harkened back to Warholian standards of bad acting. Or you could also say the Hal Hartley school of bad acting, so you are always aware of what you are watching. But he was genius for doing it.

Anthony I hope you are not suggesting that it would be anything other than wondaful if the top ten were all Judy and Liza all the time, because if you are, then it is time to THROW DOWN ;-)