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New Muzik Magazine out today - with 3 different front covers, Kraftwerk, Madonna, Prince.

Which cover did you buy/ are you going to buy?

Also Free CD - classic covers CD, INCLUDING Squarepusher - love will tear us apart, Space Cowboy - I would die 4 U.

and loads of retro/ history articles on dance music.

and new reviews etc

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 13:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Kraftwerk cover - for me.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 13:43 (twenty-three years ago)

that squarepusher cover is dreadful! but space cowboy is great. what else is on there? (please not scooter)

― zebedee, Wednesday, 8 January 2003 13:49 (twenty-three years ago)

snap martian. the prince one was from his 'slave' days and thus=dud. madonna has made some of my favourite records ever (lucky star, borderline, into the groove, crazy for you) and i wanted to relive buying 'look in' but i liked the pic of kraftwerk better.
cd looks pretty decent bukem's 'muzik' (heheh) and a marcus nikolai remix of senor coconut's cover of 'showroom dummies' sounds very interesting.

― michael wells (michael w.), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 13:50 (twenty-three years ago)

bent - dirty mind
ltj bukem - music
dj sneak - you can't hide from your bud
senor coconut - showroom dummies
soul2soul featuring shaba ranks
rae and christian - flashlight
coldcut - atomic moog
open door - breathe
grandmaster flash and the furious five - white lines

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 13:53 (twenty-three years ago)

tracklist for zebedee:
bent - dirty mind (the prince one)
bukem - music
sqpusher - love...
dj sneak - can't hide from yr bud
senor coconut - showrm dummies (m.nikolai rmx)
soul II soul + shabba ranks - soul II soul special
rae & christian - flashlight
coldcut - atomic moog 2000 (not again...)
open door - breathe (the floyd, man)
grandmaster flash - white lines
space cowboy - die 4 u

martian you fast fingered bounder. fuck it, i'm submitting this anyway. took me 1/2 hr.

― michael wells (michael w.), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 13:54 (twenty-three years ago)

Martian is still king of lists hahahaha
but thanks, both!

okay fingers on buzzers: if this "white lines" is a cover, who did original?

― zebedee, Wednesday, 8 January 2003 14:03 (twenty-three years ago)

Liquid Liquid (instrumentally at least).

― Marcello Carlin, Wednesday, 8 January 2003 14:06 (twenty-three years ago)

carlin swoops with a wet sail in the final furlong.

― michael wells (michael w.), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 14:08 (twenty-three years ago)

they're not all covers btw.

― michael wells (michael w.), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 14:08 (twenty-three years ago)

I think it's cool the way the new editor is stamping his taste and personality all over the mag.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 14:42 (twenty-three years ago)

new team @ Muzik

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 14:46 (twenty-three years ago)

it used to be crap when conor mcN stamped his personality all over it.

― michael wells (michael w.), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 14:46 (twenty-three years ago)

from reading his pieces/reviews in the mag previously i think duncan bell has a lot to do with the improvement.

― michael wells (michael w.), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 14:48 (twenty-three years ago)

i thought Conor McNicholas started the improvements at Muzik, since he has been at the nme = conformist lapdog to the suits and his boss: steve sutherland. no new ideas, the same crap content NME agenda.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 14:51 (twenty-three years ago)

That Ralph Moore dude did the sleevenotes for this Cream Beach 2002 comp I got for free (I GOT FOR FREE, I GOT FOR FREE, DIDN'T BUY IT) and they were fucking terrible, it began with something like "every great dj knows 2 things, the music will set the tone no matter where you are, and location is everything". That is no exaggeration, it was that contradictary, I don't really care what he does after that cos it was lame.

― Ronan (Ronan), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 14:53 (twenty-three years ago)

was it Ben Turner that 'ruined' Muzik then? i liked Frank Tope and Calvin Bush....what annoyed me more was the rubbish art direction by Declan Fahy!

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 21:56 (twenty-three years ago)

oh there was that guy called 'Push' after Ben Turner wasn't there? or am i getting them all in the wrong order?

― stevem (blueski), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 21:57 (twenty-three years ago)

Ooh, I'll grab this soon. I will assess the Madonna and Prince covers and choose the loveliest. Kraftwerk were great, but I can't believe I'll prefer a photo of them to Madonna or Prince.

― Martin Skidmore (Martin Skidmore), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 22:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Ben Turner was the initial editor - his writing was grebt I thought, really blinkered mental enthusiasm which seems to suit dance music.

Can any working DJs posting here tell me if dance singles reviews are even the tiniest bit useful?

Alas the newsie by the launderette only had Kraftwerk, not even a good cover; I wanted the Madge one, Madonna in the 80s was hott!

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 22:54 (twenty-three years ago)

See the Madonna cover here Tom: Muzik

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 22:58 (twenty-three years ago)

DJ M they show it inside the issue so I have no need for a link, but thankyou anyhow.

― Tom (Groke), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 23:01 (twenty-three years ago)

stoopid me, just noticed that pictures of the 3 covers are on the front cover, which you would have seen in the newsagents.

― DJ Martian (djmartian), Wednesday, 8 January 2003 23:48 (twenty-three years ago)

of course dance single reviews are useful!

and i'm sure Frank Tope AND Rob Da Bank edited Muzik before Ben Turner, hmmm...

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 9 January 2003 00:21 (twenty-three years ago)

I mean useful other than a here's what tunes are out way? I love reading them but the tone is nearly always one of hyperpitched enthusiasm that it's almost impossible to make any kind of judgement as to which you might actually like.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 9 January 2003 00:22 (twenty-three years ago)

the cd was a big let down. the 'special edit' of 'music' just means that they faded it out as it was getting started which did my head in as that's the tune i picked it up for. far too much coffee table - rae & christian, open door - other stuff is just meh - soul II soul, coldcut - so what? the nikolai remix of senor coconut is ok, dj sneak is great but bent's cover of 'dirty mind' and squarepusher's of 'love will tear us apart' are shit. *sulks*

― michael wells (michael w.), Thursday, 9 January 2003 09:48 (twenty-three years ago)

Blueski - I may be very wrong, but I don't think Frank or Rob Da Bank have ever edited Muzik. Frank was a Mixmag person for ages (used to edit Mixmag Update in pre-emap days, did house singles reviews until v-recently) and (this is where I'm getting shaky) I don't think Rob Da Bank was ever editor.

― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 9 January 2003 10:42 (twenty-three years ago)

Cream Beach 2002 comp I got for free

I think I gave you that (I GOT IT FOR FREE TOO, I GOT IT FOR FREE TOO).

― Anna (Anna), Thursday, 9 January 2003 10:43 (twenty-three years ago)

Yeah you did! The first CD had all the Tim Deluxe remix of Layo and Bushwacka which was nice to have on CD and got played alot until I had to pretend I couldn't find it cos my friends all loved it and I was sick of it. The second one was trance and I have yet to listen to it.

I think the dance singles reviews are meant to only pick singles they like anyway, give a brief description and say who's behind it, the rating is kinda useless but I think there as much a who's doing what with who information service as anything else. I mean even to just dispense with the pseudonyms they're useful enough.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 9 January 2003 11:19 (twenty-three years ago)

Frank Tope DEFINITELY edited Muzik, not sure about Rob Da Bank - might have to dig out some of my old copies for this...

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 9 January 2003 12:34 (twenty-three years ago)

i found dance music single reviews useful...but then i always found it easier to write about dance singles than rock ones half the time - crazy perhaps, and maybe what i wrote was crap but you can talk about dance singles like you can talk about any piece of recorded music essentially. describe the bassline, describe the beats and hooks...sure you'd get bored doing that 20 times a month perhaps, but then its not all faceless non-pop stuff...but this is yet another example of how weird i am in my perception of dance/electronic music in having spent more time LISTENING to it as opposed to just dancing to it and not thinking about it that much

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 9 January 2003 12:39 (twenty-three years ago)

I think writing solely about any genre on one page is tough, I mean you can take a different approach or make a different kind of joke or comment or even just use different language on the typical singles review page where it's a sort of look at everything at once.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 9 January 2003 12:42 (twenty-three years ago)

its funny tho because i know if i read a short review of 'So Much Love To Give' by Ronan he would make it sound really great but i could see someone else a bit older and more cynical dismissing it as 'mindless, unimaginative filter-disco that we all got bored of by 1999 surely' - so it depends on your own outlook really

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 9 January 2003 12:43 (twenty-three years ago)

first time i heard 'so much love to give' i did appreciate the euphoric vibe and Bangalter/Falcon trademarks...but i did also think 'oh bloody hell they've done it AGAIN' so i was largely indifferent to the track...but Ronan more than anyone else articulated his own feeling about the track so well that that helped it grow on me more which is a good sign...the main problem was i was/am unlikely to hear it thru a massive system whilst pilled up in a club...and that surely is the best way to experience it

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 9 January 2003 12:47 (twenty-three years ago)

Heh, thanks Steve!

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 9 January 2003 12:48 (twenty-three years ago)

well i spend more time here than doing anything else so you lot are my main influence now...

and if you still want that Audio Bullys mix then mail me your address Ronan. i thought it was pretty good, and you do get their tracks i've been blabbing on about ('ego war' and 'snow') - 'snow' is online at http://www.base58.com/audio_bullys__snow.mp3 (that link probly wont display properly) and i slit the mix into two parts as mp3 - second part is now just 22Khz tho

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 9 January 2003 13:18 (twenty-three years ago)

dammit: http://www.base58.com/audio_bullys__snow(extract).mp3

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 9 January 2003 13:19 (twenty-three years ago)

I'll probably download when I'm back at my home computer, though can only really do individual songs cos it's so slow and takes up my home phone line. I'll send a mail now.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 9 January 2003 13:21 (twenty-three years ago)

coolness, if you're happy with mp3s then cool - if you wanted it as CD audio i can do that too - would need two CDs tho of course, let me know

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 9 January 2003 13:31 (twenty-three years ago)

i took the '(extract)' out of that link now so use the first instance of it if u do wanna download too...heheh, i just listened to it again and i do really love it but i know i've hyped it up way too much

― stevem (blueski), Thursday, 9 January 2003 13:35 (twenty-three years ago)

nobody else disappointed with the cover cd, then?

― michael wells (michael w.), Thursday, 9 January 2003 13:40 (twenty-three years ago)

Looked boring, not played it yet.

― Tom (Groke), Thursday, 9 January 2003 13:42 (twenty-three years ago)

I have yet to buy the magazine, I'm broke again and have to eat so I can have energy for wasting the time I should be revising in.

― Ronan (Ronan), Thursday, 9 January 2003 13:42 (twenty-three years ago)

have been on soulseek/kazaa looking for 'snow'
for ages after hearing it on XFM remix show, no joy.
wicked it is.

― piscesboy, Friday, 10 January 2003 18:40 (twenty-three years ago)

as i said elsewhere (though i am not a dj) muzik's singles pages are the best in print at the moment imo, especially on the dilettante nowness factor

― zemko (bob), Friday, 10 January 2003 19:52 (twenty-three years ago)

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