What is the Difference b/w Canadian Country and American Country

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or folk music from canada and america

anthony easton (anthony), Thursday, 9 January 2003 08:56 (twenty-two years ago)

USA: more guns
Canada: more Lucky Charms-style Cape Bretonisms

Horace Mann, Thursday, 9 January 2003 14:46 (twenty-two years ago)

or folk music from canada and america

This is pretty vague. "Folk music" is not a singular element in two countries with diverse populations.

hstencil, Thursday, 9 January 2003 14:50 (twenty-two years ago)

snow vs. penny
(hank that is)

Horace Mann, Thursday, 9 January 2003 14:52 (twenty-two years ago)

There isn't a central point to compare or contrast styles in Canada, no Nashville network for our C & W stars unless they go down their. The problem of staring at our neighbours for guidance is worse in country than pop. We had our alt.country wave (minus the name) years before Uncle Tupelo on Queen Street West and out in Alberta.
In terms of folk music there is alot more anglophilia running through it and a strong sense of somehow being celtic heirs. Be it wonderfully talented if somewhat kooky UpperCanadians or bored capers and newfs.
Ned, feel free to chime in on your Handsome Ned thoughts.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 9 January 2003 15:08 (twenty-two years ago)

Canada: more Lucky Charms-style Cape Bretonisms
Your an uppercanadian aren't you?


Sometimes there isn't much to tell Garth Vader from Shania Twain. But I have a heard time telling the difference between pop acts in general somedays.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 9 January 2003 15:18 (twenty-two years ago)

10 gallon tookes, eh?

Paula G., Thursday, 9 January 2003 16:32 (twenty-two years ago)

there are ear muffs on their stetsons

Horace Mann, Thursday, 9 January 2003 16:33 (twenty-two years ago)

--Fans play their air bango solos on hockey sticks. --runs for cover--

christoff (christoff), Thursday, 9 January 2003 16:49 (twenty-two years ago)

state-sponsored suckiness

Horace Mann, Thursday, 9 January 2003 16:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Fans play their air bango solos on hockey sticks.

Now that you mention it, less banjo and more fiddle and boudran.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 9 January 2003 16:56 (twenty-two years ago)

Cdn Country Stars live in Switzerland

Horace Mann, Thursday, 9 January 2003 16:58 (twenty-two years ago)

with their tax doging sugar daddies making multiple mixes of their album while pissing on the Ramones memory.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 9 January 2003 17:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Bang(j)o? I must be on more bourbon, too -- Sorta reminds me of the bit where a guy on stage asks the audience if they want to hear a little ukulele or a lotta ukulele -- of course the crowd yells "little" -- so guy pulls out two ukuleles from behind his back and starts playing the smaller one.

christoff (christoff), Thursday, 9 January 2003 17:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I read a really good article on Ashley MacIsaac, I was going to bring him up here anyway. I'd never heard of him before, but it was a really interesting piece (Rebecca Mead I think). Worth looking for or just Lucky Charms?

Anna (Anna), Thursday, 9 January 2003 17:15 (twenty-two years ago)

A. MacI is a brilliant fiddler, but he very, very often succumbs to self-indulgence (in every imaginable way).

Horace Mann, Thursday, 9 January 2003 17:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Yes - the boy can play. I remember seeing him on Conan were they replayed his song-ending high leg kick that revealed his cladless under-kilt. --I didn't dig the album so much, though.

christoff (christoff), Thursday, 9 January 2003 17:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Do Americans know enough about Canadian Country to be able to compare it? ;-)

kate, Thursday, 9 January 2003 18:33 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't know anything about the genre, but the elements of it are all things I despise, so...

hehehehehe, it's a joke, kate.

hstencil, Thursday, 9 January 2003 18:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Long story about the album Hi How Are You. Wonderful producer, wonderful sidemen, wonderful fiddler and it was all destroyed by cocaine and the record label.
If you saw him on his tour he is working hard at the moment. Did four hours of nothing but music, no talking, no singing. Kept a barely legal 'fiddle technician' around as well.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 9 January 2003 18:38 (twenty-two years ago)

Bang(j)o? I must be on more bourbon, too
Yet another differnce: Rye as opposed to bourbon or inother words Crown Royal vs JD or Canadian Club vs Wild Turkey for those who wont admit that JD is nothing but filtered bourbon.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 9 January 2003 18:46 (twenty-two years ago)

JD IS NOT BOURBON! It can't be, it's from TN.

hstencil, Thursday, 9 January 2003 18:46 (twenty-two years ago)

JD is bourbon filtered through charcol, nothing more and nothing less. Long time ago they convinced the government to classify it as 'Tennisee Sipping Whiskey' or something corny.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 9 January 2003 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Jack Daniels Old No. 7 Tennesse Sour Mash Whiskey (used to be so frisky)

Horace Mann, Thursday, 9 January 2003 18:48 (twenty-two years ago)

sour mash just means they start the fermenting with the remains of the previous batch to speed up the process, its a pretty common technique/

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 9 January 2003 18:50 (twenty-two years ago)

I thought the definition of bourbon was "from Kentucky", in the same way champagne is a sparkling wine from a certain region, and those from other regions are simply "sparkling wine".

Paula G., Thursday, 9 January 2003 18:50 (twenty-two years ago)

same as Screech is only from NFLD

Horace Mann, Thursday, 9 January 2003 18:52 (twenty-two years ago)

Paula IS CORRECT! REPRAZENT!

{/Kentucky Chauvinism}

GO CARDS!

{/Louisville Chauvinism}

hstencil, Thursday, 9 January 2003 18:52 (twenty-two years ago)

It reffers to the type of grain the spirit was made from.
Screech isnt even made in Newfieland though.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 9 January 2003 18:52 (twenty-two years ago)

thus we have circularly shown the difference between and betwixt Cdn and USA Country Music: one is made in Canada, the other is not.

Horace Mann, Thursday, 9 January 2003 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Bourbon comes only from Kentucky. That other stuff who might as well just call w(h)iskey.

christoff (christoff), Thursday, 9 January 2003 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)

those from other regions are simply "sparkling wine".

Champange is still just sparkling white wine at the end of the day. Quite often very good sparkling white wine but the only thing that stops wine manufactuers from calling it champange is the VQA.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 9 January 2003 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)

Christoff: it's the E that's optional in whisky

Horace Mann, Thursday, 9 January 2003 18:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Thanks hstencil for confidence vote. But according to the Straight Dope, you and I are wrong. What do you think?

http://www.straightdope.com/mailbag/mbourbon.html

Paula G., Thursday, 9 January 2003 18:57 (twenty-two years ago)

"Champange is still just sparkling white wine at the end of the day"

Yes, that was my point.

Paula G., Thursday, 9 January 2003 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Aye, yarn malt advocate! --and a nip of Booker's to ya.

christoff (christoff), Thursday, 9 January 2003 19:00 (twenty-two years ago)

JD is still Bourbon passed through a charcol filter.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 9 January 2003 19:01 (twenty-two years ago)

It's like saying X brand of music can only be played by Y brand of people. You're wrong and you just proved you're a snob, to boot.

Horace Mann, Thursday, 9 January 2003 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I think the Straight Dope stinks, usually. I think you can call JD anything you want, but it's still lousy.

Some Kentucky bourbon makers claim that the same limestone spring water that makes thoroughbred horses' bones strong gives bourbon whiskey its distinctive flavor. Kind of like that "it's the water" thing with Olympia beer.

Bourbon can be made anywhere in the U.S., but all but a couple of brands are made in Kentucky. Only the state of Kentucky can produce bourbon with its name on the label. The name comes from Bourbon county in the central bluegrass region of Kentucky. This county was named in 1785 to honor the French royal family and was once the major transshipment site for shipping distilled spirits down the Ohio and Mississippi rivers to New Orleans. Barrels shipped from there were stamped with the county's name, which then became the name of this kind of whiskey. Interestingly, there are no distillers in Bourbon county, Kentucky right now.

Uh, yeah there are no distillers in Bourbon County because IT'S A DRY COUNTY! BASTRO = Christian County's wet, Bourbon's not!

Jack Daniels is not bourbon because it's not from Kentucky. Sparkling white wine is not champagne because it's not from Champagne. Big deal, y'all.

Jeez people, I tell ya, I just don't know.

hstencil, Thursday, 9 January 2003 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)

I'm not putting Straight Dope forward as Gospel, it was just the first source I came across googling. I *want* to believe that you and I are right on this.

Paula G., Thursday, 9 January 2003 19:05 (twenty-two years ago)

In an attempt to bridge the two directions of this thread: what is the difference between Canadian bacon and American bacon?

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 9 January 2003 19:06 (twenty-two years ago)

Straight Dope is usually right on the facts, I just usually can't stand the writing style. Or most of the questions asked, for that matter (not that that's the column's fault).

hstencil, Thursday, 9 January 2003 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)

Canadian Bacon just may be the only funny thing Michael Moore's been involved with. R.I.P. John Candy.

hstencil, Thursday, 9 January 2003 19:07 (twenty-two years ago)

On Canadian vs. US bacon question:

Hint: it's also the name of everyone's artist of the year.

Answer: The Streaks

Paula G., Thursday, 9 January 2003 19:08 (twenty-two years ago)

I always thought:
"American Bacon" has it's origins as Canadian "Fat Back" --the real deal.
And that "Canadian Bacon" was processed american swine bologna.

christoff (christoff), Thursday, 9 January 2003 19:11 (twenty-two years ago)

processed american swine bologna

Quoting from the Saddam Hussein Songbook I see.

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 9 January 2003 19:19 (twenty-two years ago)

...w/ mustard (gas).

christoff (christoff), Thursday, 9 January 2003 19:25 (twenty-two years ago)

Yanqui UXO (with loads of self-loathing)?

hstencil, Thursday, 9 January 2003 19:36 (twenty-two years ago)

Um, I have no trouble telling Garth Brooks from Shania Twain.

sundar subramanian (sundar), Thursday, 9 January 2003 19:40 (twenty-two years ago)

Never heard of 'American bacon' but was under the impression that 'Canadian bacon' was what Americans called back bacon or pemeal bacon.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 9 January 2003 19:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Shania Twain from I don't know Faith Hill.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 9 January 2003 19:52 (twenty-two years ago)

American bacon = bacon

christoff (christoff), Thursday, 9 January 2003 19:56 (twenty-two years ago)

American country = country (?)

Paula G., Thursday, 9 January 2003 19:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Then what did Hank Snow play?

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 9 January 2003 20:14 (twenty-two years ago)

Hawaiian music. No, seriously, he did.

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 9 January 2003 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

You Yankee fuxx wouldn't know country if it bit you in your ass!

James Blount (James Blount), Thursday, 9 January 2003 21:07 (twenty-two years ago)

No one asked for your Canadian opinion.

Paula G., Thursday, 9 January 2003 21:16 (twenty-two years ago)

sundar, do you tell the same way crocadile dundee did?

Sterling Clover (s_clover), Thursday, 9 January 2003 21:42 (twenty-two years ago)

James is Canadian?

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 9 January 2003 21:45 (twenty-two years ago)

You Yankee fuxx wouldn't know country if it bit you in your ass!

And you Canadian sourpusses wouldn't know what to do if you didn't constantly define yourselves by what Americans do.

hstencil, Thursday, 9 January 2003 21:50 (twenty-two years ago)

psyduck.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 9 January 2003 21:54 (twenty-two years ago)

It's too bad this thread was reduced to name calling and insults between some Canadian and American posters.

Bruce Urquhart (Bruce Urquhart), Thursday, 9 January 2003 21:57 (twenty-two years ago)

The bacon part was amusing. Its all my fault for daring to call JD bourbon.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 9 January 2003 21:58 (twenty-two years ago)

Actually, I always though JD was bourbon as well. They put it right beside the Jim Beam in the liquor store. We can blame the LCBO.

Bruce Urquhart (Bruce Urquhart), Thursday, 9 January 2003 22:00 (twenty-two years ago)

I don't hate Canadians, I only like making fun of them on message boards.

Seriously, I like Canada. Whistler, dude!

hstencil, Thursday, 9 January 2003 22:12 (twenty-two years ago)

I'll start things back up.

Canadian folk is more white -- American folk is more black.
But then, Canadian folk is more cajun, too.

christoff (christoff), Thursday, 9 January 2003 22:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Side issue: Is there such a thing as a French-only speaking Hony-tonk Quebecois Cowboy singer?
I mean, anything is possible. They have a famous Rodeo in Calgary ferchrissakes.

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Thursday, 9 January 2003 22:23 (twenty-two years ago)

http://www.dromadaire.com/chantalsicard/entree.htm

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 9 January 2003 22:30 (twenty-two years ago)

(Je ne sais pas si elle est bonne, cependant.)

Amateurist (amateurist), Thursday, 9 January 2003 22:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Merci.

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Thursday, 9 January 2003 22:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Buckets.

hstencil, Thursday, 9 January 2003 22:37 (twenty-two years ago)

< HYACINTH >That Booo-Kayyy< / HYACINTH >

Lord Custos Omega (Lord Custos Omega), Thursday, 9 January 2003 22:39 (twenty-two years ago)

But then, Canadian folk is more cajun, too
Well Cajun's are my ancestors who were shipped off by the British.

Side issue: Is there such a thing as a French-only speaking Hony-tonk Quebecois Cowboy singer?
Yes, but most do learn English fi they are going to be heard outside Quebec and New Brunswick, the most famous example being Roch Voisine, an Acadian as well.

Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Friday, 10 January 2003 15:39 (twenty-two years ago)


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