Do Flaming Lips and Beck hate each other?

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Maybe it's always been common knowledge, and I only just copped on, but it would appear that they don't like each other much. Saw a small interview with Wayne Coyne in Mojo, and he said something along the lines of (not a word-for-word quote):

"Beck isn't the easy-going slacker we'd like him to be. He gets very worked up about hotels and food, and other stuff that doesn't really matter."

When asked about his fave recs of the year, Coyne said something like:

"Despite the disappointments we've had getting to know Beck personally, we still think his rec is one of the year's best."

My brother told me also that Coyne was cagey when it was suggested that Beck had something to do with the black eye he had.
I'm prob the last to know, but, meh, whatever. Tell me more...

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Thursday, 9 January 2003 18:47 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe Wayne is the last to know that Beck isn't an easy going slacker.

― Mr Noodles (Mr Noodles), Thursday, 9 January 2003 18:49 (twenty-two years ago)

When I interviewed Steven Drozd in June he told me that Beck had asked them to tour with them and they weren't sure if they would do it. I joked about how they'd never get me to a Beck show, and there was a long pause, after which he said, "Well, you know, I'm always hopeful his next record is going to kick my ass." A good non-answer answer, I thought.

― Yanc3y (ystrickler), Thursday, 9 January 2003 18:51 (twenty-two years ago)

ill post yer ques on the beck bbs and see what kind of answer i get

― chaki (chaki), Thursday, 9 January 2003 19:33 (twenty-two years ago)

1. No way Beck could take Wayne. Maybe in a dance-off, but not a fight.
2. When I saw Beck interviewed about the tour, they asked him why Flaming Lips, and he said, "I considered several other bands and blah blah blah" it just came off as really presumptous that he thought "Well, I'm the #1 popstar, they should open for me and play MY music," even though they've been around twice as long. And he wouldn't even come out and say he liked the Flaming Lips.

Also, Steve Drozd said he hated the song Loser but loved Odelay.

― David Allen, Thursday, 9 January 2003 20:12 (twenty-two years ago)

beck is short, like really short.

i don't like short people.

i don't think i'd like beck

― JasonD (JasonD), Thursday, 9 January 2003 20:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Say what you will, at least the Flaming Lips offer GENUINE bullshit.
I hate Beck too, but it's really more my fault than his. Or maybe its SPIN's fault, I dunno.

― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Thursday, 9 January 2003 20:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Judging from their Austin City Limits performance that aired last weekend, they seem to be fellers who get along quite well...they seem to have really good chemistry.

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, 9 January 2003 20:42 (twenty-two years ago)

Maybe in a dance-off, but not a fight

But clearly being a good dancer is more important!

― Sean (Sean), Thursday, 9 January 2003 21:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Not if you get your ass whooooped.

― hstencil, Thursday, 9 January 2003 21:35 (twenty-two years ago)

Both guys are like 90 lbs. and five feet tall. I've seen guys on "COPS" pulled out from under a couch who were bigger.

― donut bitch (donut), Thursday, 9 January 2003 22:58 (twenty-two years ago)

But clearly being a good dancer is more important!

Not if you get your ass whooooped.

This reads like the sort of conversation late 70's high school students pondering whether they should join the Disco Sucks brigade or give in to the boogie crowd would have.

― Daniel_Rf (Daniel_Rf), Friday, 10 January 2003 00:10 (twenty-two years ago)

Considering he was just on Austin City Limits with the Flaming Lips as his back up band, is this really a question?

― mallory bourgeois (painter man), Friday, 10 January 2003 00:17 (twenty-two years ago)

Wouldn't it be cool if Flaming Lips changed their name to Flaming Beck, and Beck changed his name to Lips?

― o. nate (onate), Friday, 10 January 2003 00:23 (twenty-two years ago)

I was at the first show of the Beck-Lips tour and I think there might've been some tension. Wayne kept grandstanding during Beck's set, pumping his fists in the air and hopping about and such (though it might have just been due to a lack of better things to do).

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Friday, 10 January 2003 00:23 (twenty-two years ago)

Wayne kept grandstanding during Beck's set, pumping his fists in the air and hopping about and such (though it might have just been due to a lack of better things to do).

Was he playing any instruments? I'd like to think Wayne would take on a Fred or Bez role -- sans maracas.

― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 10 January 2003 00:51 (twenty-two years ago)

(Fred as in the big tall homeless looking guy in Hazel, and Bez in Happy Mondays)

― donut bitch (donut), Friday, 10 January 2003 00:51 (twenty-two years ago)

Well he did a bit of minor guitar stuff, I think. Actually, I forget (and I have a boot of the show on CD).

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Friday, 10 January 2003 01:17 (twenty-two years ago)

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― chaki (chaki), Friday, 10 January 2003 03:13 (twenty-two years ago)

aka they are just fucking around

― chaki (chaki), Friday, 10 January 2003 03:16 (twenty-two years ago)

Beck in raiding Bowie's makeup kit shockah!

― Nate Patrin (Nate Patrin), Friday, 10 January 2003 04:40 (twenty-two years ago)

eeeww! beck has sweaty armpits

― JasonD (JasonD), Friday, 10 January 2003 07:01 (twenty-two years ago)

What happened to Beck's HAIR?!?!? He used to be so cute. Did the Scientologists fry his hair follicles as well as his brain?

― kate, Friday, 10 January 2003 09:46 (twenty-two years ago)

"Considering he was just on Austin City Limits with the Flaming Lips as his back up band, is this really a question?"

THe impression i got was that it was during the time they've been beck's backing band that they developed a dislike/suspicion of him. it's possible for them to be his backing band, but not like him personally.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 10 January 2003 12:34 (twenty-two years ago)

Wayne looks like a preacher-man!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Friday, 10 January 2003 14:32 (twenty-two years ago)

Wayne is superhot! Finally someone my own age I'm attracted to...

― Arthur (Arthur), Friday, 10 January 2003 18:40 (twenty-two years ago)

This weeks NME has the usual "You Cock" feature, which details fights between pop stars. This week it's Wayne Coyne VS Beck.

Coyne says:

"I think Beck knows he's a bit of a diva, he's kind of high maintenance...I don't really need people to drive me around town, when I check into a hotel I don't check out because of the way the pillows smell...He would take limousines when he could have just got in the van...He would have these irrational rules like you're 'not supposed to see the highway from his window..."

But Coyne stresses that everything's all right really...

"He knows I'd call him a diva because he would go onstage and make fun of it himself."

So they don't hate each other, exactly. Wayne just has no time for his superstar behaviour, it would seem.

― weasel diesel (K1l14n), Friday, 17 January 2003 15:27 (twenty-two years ago)

two weeks pass...

The way the Flaming Lips ranked all over Beck in the new issue of Esquire was priceless. And unbelievably scathing.

The article reaffirmed my impression that Beck takes himself and what he does far too seriously. Especially when Sea Change was basically an average Gordon Lightfoot album.

― don weiner, Sunday, 2 February 2003 22:53 (twenty-two years ago)

can you tell us what was said please?

― chaki (chaki), Monday, 3 February 2003 00:59 (twenty-two years ago)

Beck? Taking himself seriously? Ha!

― nickalicious (nickalicious), Monday, 3 February 2003 14:42 (twenty-two years ago)

"Beck is a rock star. They didn't think he would be when he called them and asked if they would open for him on his Sea Change our and then back him during his own set. They thought that Beck would be kind of cool. They thought, specifically, that he would be, well, like them. It is one of Beck's talents to make people think that he is just like them. One day, Wayne [Coyne] saw a funky old beat-up Chevy pulling up to the arena and heard the security guards all crow, "Here comes Beck!" because they all thought that Beck was the kind of guy who goes tooling around L.A. in a funk old beat up Chevy. But Beck is not that kind of guy. According to the Flaming Lips, Beck is the kind of guy who takes a limo and then worries about people knowing he takes a limo. Beck is the kind of guy who worries about losing his hair. Beck is the kind of guy who worries abou this hotel room and walks out if he doesn't like the color of the walls. Beck is the kind of guy who worries about his food and makes his crew wait around in a restaurant while he sends his meal back two or three times. Beck is the kind of guy who eventually hires his own chef or has someone in his retinue hire his own chef, because Beck is the kind of guy who leaves a lot to his retinue and winds up being a rather passive participant in his own life. More to the point, Beck is the kind of guy who makes people wait, and now, as the Flaming Lips stand onstage in Santa Barbara and wait for Beck to show up for soundcheck, Wayne wonders aloud if Beck is late because Beck is waiting for someone to 'put his pants on for him,' and then cries, to the darkened theater, 'Put on your own pants, Beck!'"

If you want to read the rest of the article, like where Beck rags on John Lennon's "Imagine", go buy the magazine. The added bonus is the article on world security, which pretty much makes me want to rethink my life entirely.

― don weiner, Monday, 3 February 2003 19:46 (twenty-two years ago)

The added bonus is the article on world security, which pretty much makes me want to rethink my life entirely.

In the 'we're all doomed any day now' sense or...?

― Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 3 February 2003 19:48 (twenty-two years ago)

Doomed in the sense that, even if we pretend Iraq isn't on the map anywhere, there are about 15 other places that could create similarly frightening problems. Doomed in the sense that, even if those other fifteen places weren't on the map, there's always the worldwide epidemic of AIDS which is certain to cause massive instability in the next 25 years (President Bush's pledge to increase funding in Africa--three times higher than has ever been even proposed--is a drop in the barrel.) Doomed in the sense that, the US is by default the only military power large enough to consider playing the role of World's Policeman and we're too small to effectively address so many concerns at once. Doomed in the sense that, technology has changed so rapidly in the past 20 years that we have to worry about rogue individuals nearly as much as we have to worry about rogue countries or regimes. And just in case the world hot spots map doesn't scare the hell out of you, the article on Anthrax will make you shit yourself.

― don weiner, Monday, 3 February 2003 20:22 (twenty-two years ago)

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