Best Post-Babaluma Can Record?

I had Can and remember "All Gates Open" to be a pretty good tune. I never understood why it was slagged so hard.

As for Saw Delight, I think "Animal Waves" is great, and the "pop tune" are a blast...

I remember hearing the track on the soundtrack to Wenders' "Until the End of the World" and quite liking it. I believe that was around the time of Rite Time's release. I always wanted to get it but never did. But then, I know the album was fairly universally panned and I guess the band themselves sort of disown it now. Is it really all that bad?

That's curious because AMG are now giving it 3 stars, making it rank equal with Flow Motion as their best post-Babaluma release - maybe there've been some later re-appraisals going on?

I'd say definitely w/ SD, maybe less so with Can, but it's still worth a listen. If anything, the later Can records are guilty of the same thing the Holger Czukay solo records are guilty of: getting a little too goofy. The earlier records somehow managed to keep that kind of stuff in check. It's hardly a capital offense, but makes them all less than 100% appealing. SD is a little less of that than Can.

Full Circle, by Wobble, Czukay and Liebezeit manages to avoid that, which is why I think it's Czukay's post-Can record (while Radio Wave Surfer is the guiltiest of that and, thus, the hardest listen, despite some fascinating music).

Czukay's best post-Can record, that is, though Movies is pretty damned good, too...

I do, too. It's just, at it's least revolutionary, some of it can get a little too goofy, I think. I think it can mostly be chalked up to that guy Sheldon Ancel, who just sounds like this computer salesman nerd he laid on top of all these amazing dictaphone and french horn experiments. RWS has him on all of it, I think. I guess it's supposed to be this pop culture commentary or something, but I recall it just being annoying.

But other than that, his stuff tends to be amazing. "Persian Love," from Movies is incredible. And that Rome Remains Rome/Der Osten Ist Rot two-fer is really worthwhile, too.

Of the others:

Flowmotion - fairly lacklustre, the best things on it is the silly pop stuff, the serious stuff is dreadful (title track especially)

Saw Delight - extremely underrated, an album I actually really like, the only problem with it being that "Animal Waves" is twice as long as it needs to be.

Out of Reach - bloody awful, the only Can album with no contribution from Holger Czukay and it's easily the worst thing they ever did, once again showing that Czukay was the real musical genius in the band

Can - kind of OK, very pleasant in fact but, in truth, rather middle aged.

Rite Time - not as bad you may have been led to believe. Malcolm Mooney's voice is completely shot and painful to listen to on the more melodic tracks - but he's reassuringly bonkers as ever. Not enough of Schmidt and Czukay and far too much of Michael Karoli (a criticism that could be levelled at most Can post-Babaluma), Karoli does everything but play drums on this album! But, all in all, not an embarrassment by any means.

Once again tho, if you don't own "Landed" you're not a Can fan in my book! Ha ha

Flow Motion is so cool & the binaural recording makes my head feel weird

Been playing it a lot recently. First side is sweet and so cute.

I really like Saw Delight even though it's very unlike classic Can.