Mingus - S and D?

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Wow... Just listened to a CD I got for Christmas; Charles Mingus' 'The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady'... remarkable stuff indeed; a sort of jazz i've never really heard before.
Is there anyone familiar with any of the rest of his work, who'd be able to do a S and D in terms of what i should get?
Is there much which comes up to the standard of 'The Black Saint...'?

― Tom May, Sunday, 12 January 2003 18:46 (twenty-two years ago)

Search: "Ah Um" obv

― mark p (Mark P), Sunday, 12 January 2003 18:54 (twenty-two years ago)

I have "Mingus at Antibes", live 1960, and it's fantastic. It's like gospel music, perfect for Sunday morning; I'm putting it on now!

― Sean (Sean), Sunday, 12 January 2003 19:02 (twenty-two years ago)

i highly recommend "the clown" - ellingtonish but still furious (esp. tonight at noon, haitian fight song), "new tijuana moods" - first one i owned, a little flamenco influence, "pithecanthropus erectus" - impressionistic, sometimes violent sounding, sometimes playful/gentle

― brains (cerybut), Sunday, 12 January 2003 19:11 (twenty-two years ago)

The above comments are right OTM.
Almost everything between 56 and the mid 60's is worth hearing, however BS&SL is his most grandiose. I personally love Ysabels Table Dance on Tijuana Moods. Mingus Plays Mingus with Eric Dolphy is the killer small group recording. O yeah is pretty maverick and features a fantastic performance by Roland Kirk on Hog Calling Blues. Ah Um speaks for itself.

― gaz (gaz), Sunday, 12 January 2003 21:41 (twenty-two years ago)

a good overview of mingus to be found on perfect sound forever webzine:

http://www.furious.com/perfect/mingus3.html

http://www.furious.com/perfect/mingus.html

http://www.furious.com/perfect/mingus2.html

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Sunday, 12 January 2003 21:53 (twenty-two years ago)

Ah Um and Blues & Roots are both very cool.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 13 January 2003 11:09 (twenty-two years ago)

Let My Children Hear Music is my favourite jazz record ever (altho i dont have very many), but it is ACE!

― gareth (gareth), Monday, 13 January 2003 11:14 (twenty-two years ago)

The absolute essentials are:
Mingus Ah Um
The Black Saint & The Sinner Lady
Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus

Search also:
Jazz Composers Workshop
At The Bohemia
Passions Of A Man (the complete Atlantic recordings including Pithecanthropus Erectus, The Clown, Blues & Roots, At Antibes and Oh Yeah)
New Tijuana Moods
Mingus In Wonderland (aka Jazz Portraits)
The Complete Columbia / CBS 1959 Sessions (includes Ah Um and Dynasty)
Charles Mingus Presents Charles Mingus
Money Jungle (with Duke Ellington & Max Roach)
Let My Children Hear Music
Changes One
Changes Two
Cumbia And Jazz Fusion

Also definitely worth tracking down are his autobiography Beneath The Underdog and the video Triumph Of The Underdog .

Destroy:
Nothing of his I've ever heard (although the compilation 13 Pictures doesn't come up to Rhino's usually high standards and doesn't do the man justice at all)

In case you were wondering, I just love him!

― Stewart Osborne (Stewart Osborne), Monday, 13 January 2003 11:26 (twenty-two years ago)

My response was on this thread from about a year ago:

Charles Mingus

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 13 January 2003 11:32 (twenty-two years ago)

has anyone read the other biog of mingus? it has a title like 'me, myslef and I when I'm real'.

― Julio Desouza (jdesouza), Monday, 13 January 2003 11:41 (twenty-two years ago)

Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus is top as well.

― Nick Southall (Nick Southall), Monday, 13 January 2003 11:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Not that long ago I saw a vid of a televised show from the 64 European tour w/ Dolphy, as mentioned by Marcello on the previous thread. Eric steals the show, of course, but Jackie Byard on piano is v. nearly as gd - what an underrated player, so fluid and bluesy but totally mod too!

Watching jazz, even on vid, is quite a gd way to get into it, I think.

― Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 13 January 2003 12:14 (twenty-two years ago)

one year passes...

E:\new music\mingus mingus mingus mingus mingus\charles_mingus-mingus_mingus_mingus_mingus_mingus-02-i_x_love.mp3

It is pretty good

― W i l l (common_person), Saturday, 23 October 2004 13:44 (twenty-one years ago)

sixteen years pass...

Listened to "Moanin" by Charles Mingus a few times on Youtube on the old cell phone and the version that is really popular is one of the Mingus Big Band from 1993. It is a really hot and lovingly put together take on the tune.

It is a pretty big Youtube hit, it's got over 24 million views.

The comments section is a hoot and got some pretty hilarious comments as it is pretty obvious the commenters come from a wide array of angles.

It is worth a 'search'.

― earlnash, Saturday, 20 March 2021 00:20 (four years ago)

CDR80 I made this week for a friend that we still swap CDRs of stuff we had not checked out.

Wednesday Night Prayer Meeting
Moanin'
Haitian Fight Song
Better Get It in your Soul
Ysabel's Table Dance
Hog Callin' Blues
Slop
Fables of Faubus (Mingus Ah Um)
Hobo Ho
Goodbye Pork Pie Hat (Mingus Ah Um)

In hind sight, might have chosen something else than Ysabel's as it is mastered really quiet and kinda breaks up the jams.

Been better to have had the live with vocals Fables of Faubus too.

― earlnash, Saturday, 20 March 2021 00:25 (four years ago)

one year passes...

Happy 100th!

― Granny Takes a Tripos (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 23 April 2022 01:08 (three years ago)

Record Store Day is tomorrow and there’s a vinyl release by Resonance of the new Ronnie Scott’s set from the early 70s.

― DAMAGED by Black Flat (Boring, Maryland), Saturday, 23 April 2022 01:25 (three years ago)

six months pass...

I'd like to talk a bit about the actual track "Passions of a Man" off 'Oh Yeah' from 1962.

Wow that is a crazy track. I don't know if is a bop era skit track or the hep head version of a psych freakout track pre-Owsley? That said, it is pretty freaky early track of such at least sound.

Mingus did other tracks mixing some poetry and spoken word with an arrangement, but this is something different.

I guess it is him having 'fun' overdubbing all the crazy vocals on top of the old track, which is supposed to be some early arrangement he got them to cut.

It definitely sounds like a 60s weird freak out track that would close or be apart of some LPs of that era.

― earlnash, Saturday, 29 October 2022 23:27 (three years ago)

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