Rooty album cover: Classic or Dud?

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I went to Amazon.com to check the release date (seeing as two other board members have found ways to get it) and discovered this. Should I be giggling or in awe?

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

you know those carts at the mall that allow you to have your picture put on t-shirts and stuff with tacky 80s designs and inscriptions like "BEST FRIENDS FOREVER!"? well, this album cover looks like it was designed by one of those people. except someone brought a gorilla with them into the mall that day.

fred solinger, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Classic. I'm well into the current 'ugly design on major albums' school. (Air, f'r instance). It'll all look even more ghastly in 10 years but we should all be listening to different things anyway by then.

Tom, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That is sincerely the best album cover I've seen in my entire life. I would buy the album on the basis of that alone.

This is sincerely the day where everything is the best whatever I've ever seen or heard. First Bill & Ted, then David Bowie, then Set the CONtrols for the Heart of the Pelvis, now that album cover. That is AWE INSPIRINGLY AWESOME.

I wish I designed that. :(

Ally, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Well Ally, the next time you take Fred to the mall, you can!

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It is pretty funny, isn't it? Picking up a mention in another thread -- I found an advance copy over the weekend and bought it, but while I'm not sure about the album yet myself (starts great, then slumps), that cover is a treat.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

When I put out a CD and I'm a famous recording artist and you all are kissing my ass all the live long day and talking about how wonderful I am and how great my music is and how fabulous my clothes are, I will put out a single with a picture of one of those mall-created WANTED posters with Fred dressed up as a cowboy. That'll be so great.

Ally, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

et tu, dan? and here i was, FIGHTING against making you the butt of the joke! this is how you repay me. bastard.

and, i'm sorry, but that idea has been taken (for the single sleeve). it was used for the limited-edition japan-only of the solinger single, "wanted: dead."

fred solinger, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Wonder how many people will mistake it for the new Planet of the Apes soundtrack.

Andy, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Fred, ALWAYS go for the lay-up. It's how one gains respect. Er, yeah.

The thought of this as the cover for the "Planet Of The Apes" soundtrack has made me happier than I ever thought I could be. Free mescalin for everyone!

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Fred, everyone hates you, can't you just get the hint? Dan thinks you look like that monkey, Nicole compared you UNFAVORABLY to Gavin Rossdale, and everyone knows I'm out to systematically destroy you. Plus Josh wants to punch you over that whole Weezer thing. Otis probably hates you too for being the big huge gossip who really let the cat out of the bag over that whole Potion story. And you know Stephanie and Ramon want to throw you off my roof. You'd probably be better off if you were that monkey, jesus. At least he's on the cover of the COOLEST ALBUM COVER EVER.

Ally, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

yes, that's exactly how i was feeling, the frame of mind i was in when i composed "wanted: dead," like the whole world was out to get me, like everyone wanted me dead. it's not a coincidence that my name happen to rhymes with "dead," i discovered.

fred solinger, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It gives me intense internal amusement to think of the film Drop Dead Fred, I'll tell you that much.

Ally, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It also rhymes with shred, behead, and dread.

Nicole, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The Dread Pirate Fred doesn't have the same ring as Dread Pirate Roberts, I'll tell you that.

Ally, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I should know.

Brian Roberts, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It does rhyme with my name, though, so perhaps he deserves a smidge of credit.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

See, Brian could take Fred on the basis of name alone.

Ally, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Quick interjection: The "Tomb Raider" soundtrack features "Where's Your Head At", which I'm finding is absolutely brilliant. (Part of this may be because my wife, on hearing the sampled riff, initially thought they were saying, "That's your ass!") Based on this and "Romeo", I MUST own this soon.

Dan Perry, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I like Fred, Fred's a great guy. He likes Gluecifer and he calls women whores.

Otis Wheeler, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, men who call women whores are so cool. But it isn't til they start bitch-slapping them that they can get real kudos.

Nicole, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Fred does that too. He's made for you, Nicole.

Otis Wheeler, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What I REALLY want to say is far too horrible and ego crushing and mind boggling and embarassing for the person it's directed towards, and I'm all about the love today, so I'll say this instead:

Fuck bitch slapping, getting kicked out of clubs and people's apartments is where it's at.

Ally, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You're finally coming to your senses, that's good.

Otis Wheeler, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Fred does that too. He's made for you, Nicole.

Nah, I have my heart set on OJ Simpson. See, I even have the right first name!

Nicole, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

There's only one person round this ILM joint that needed to come to their senses, cowboy, and it ain't me.

Obviously, it was Fred.

Ally, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

What, you mean it wasn't me? MAN. *cries*

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Cowboy is acceptable, just don't start calling people "hoss".

Nicole, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Right, "boss" will be fine.

Otis Wheeler, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Fucking A, Nicole, Fred was going to be Hoss, Ned was Boss Hog, and I was Daisy Duke. You've ruined the whole scenario now of a great big mix of hick-tv-show icons. Damnit.

When I was a child we used to play Dukes of Hazzard. My cousin George was Boss Hog. This is a VERY AMUSING FACT. Fred can verify this.

Ally, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, you wish, Wheeler.

How about "wuss", Nicole?

Ally, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Boss Hog? That means thinking about Jon Fucking Spencer, not a pleasant image.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I'm all about calling people "wuss".

Nicole, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Then October's gonna be all about bitch-slapping, isn't it?

My Hazzard name might as well be Cooter, since it's also the name of my cat.

Otis Wheeler, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You have a cat? Wussbag. Only girls have cats.

Ally, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

It's not like I feed it or anything gay like that, jeez.

Otis Wheeler, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Shyeah right. You probably even play with it, christ. Girl.

Ally, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I guess so. Maybe I should wail my cat in the ass every time it comes near like some people.

Otis Wheeler, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Wait - Nicole, you're coming here in October? You should stay at my house, fuck hotels. That way we can start a nice lesbian sex rumor, because at my house EVERYBODY GETS LAID. It's like PCU.

BTW, Dan, I laugh EVERY TIME I think of that stupid album cover. I have had this idiotic grin on my face all day.

Ally, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Sanrio and lesbian sex, how could I not be going?

Nicole, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

And for the record, Stephanie stopped beating up the cat, at least when I'm around, cos I went off her for smacking him with my hairbrush. I mean, hello, I don't want cat hair in my hairbrush, use your own.

Ally, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yo Tom. Maybe in October you should just come to Minneapolis. We can sit in a pub and drink beer and I promise I won't smack you in the ass OR call you a whore. All very pleasant and unassuming.

Josh, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yo, Ally, I was talking about you, not Stephanie. I didn't see her hit the cat once.

Josh gave me a good idea; if I ever go to another ILM meet, I'm gonna try to find a girl to smack in the ass AND call a whore, at the same time. And now that everyone will be expecting that, rest assured that instead I'll act more pleasant and unassuming than even Josh, just to catch people off guard.

Otis Wheeler, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Like you could even act pleasant, pff.

Ally, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

So long as I'm not around either you or Ramon, I'm totally completely, almost gratuitously, pleasant. I exude pleasantness. I practically live in Pleasantville.

Otis Wheeler, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Yeah, it's all me and Ramon's fault. Mind you, every time me and him separated from the group and went on the roof or hid in a corner or the bathroom, we had very pleasant - intelligent even - conversations. Maybe it's some sort of mindbogglingly evil combination of the three of us that causes spontaneous mental combustion and stupid things like the Turbonegro vs. Manics fight or the Potion Incident.

Ally, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

You have nothing to do with it, it's all Ramon. My cousin's been hanging out with him for a week, and she went from being perfectly nice to telling the checkout girl at Stop & Shop to "fuck off, the Jimmy Fund doesn't deserve my dollar." Were you around when we defiled Mishy's house, her yard, and her swimming pool? Were you around when the pick and scythe got rammed through my door? It's all Ramon's fault. Not that I'm blaming him. Being pleasant sucks.

Otis Wheeler, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Ramon's been nothing but nice to me and I honestly have nothing but good to say about him. He calls our house and is very nice and pleasant and he has intelligent conversation with me when he's down here, besides that whole stupid thing with the Greeks of course. I think you talk up Ramon's bad influence, because I find him to be a lovely gentleman.

Ally, Wednesday, 6 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That's because he's trying to sleep with you, duh. Anyway, you totally have selective memory. If I ever said your corset sucked, you'd kick me on the streets.

Otis Wheeler, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I already know he wants to sleep with me, do I look like an idiot? He totally divebombed my mouth that night. I wouldn't kick anyone on the street for saying my corset needed more "boobs", as he put it, I only kick people on the street for spilling vodka and tonic on me.

Ally, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

I already know he divebombed your mouth, do I look like an idiot? Your reasons for kicking people out are totally amiss.

Otis Wheeler, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Did I SAY you didn't know that? Stop misunderstanding me, hello. How was I supposed to be a whore with whingy guys in my house anyhow? You two were both going thru existential crisises and I couldn't deal with that. I said to Ramon, yo, go away, come back another weekend, and he's all, deal. Blame him, this was all decided at the Chinatown loft.

Ally, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Oh, and my mom said this regarding the Rooty album cover:

"That album cover is a beautiful thing. You should ask all your boyfriends to buy it for you, whorebag"

To make this relevant.

Ally, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Once we sidetrack a thread, not even your mom can bring it back, don't even try.

What am I blaming Ramon for, again, I've completely forgotten?

Otis Wheeler, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

For me "kicking you guys out". I didn't, I'm merely playing it that way because you can't remember what actually happened, which is wicked cool, cos I can be all, yeah, cyborg koalas came and kidnapped me for a while, then Mecha-Keanu saved me, but anyhow. He agreed to leave when I said I didn't think it was a good idea for you two to stay at my house after you went off on me for no good reason. And he said I was right, and he'd talk to some chick in Brooklyn, but then he never did and tried to tell me that I should just leave with him and ditch you two, and then I'm all, how is that relevant to anything (this was on the roof), and got annoyed with him so he said, listen, shut up, I'm leaving, we'll be back once I calm everyone down, so I'm all, yeah, okay.

Indeed, it was even Ramon's idea that the two particular people who left the hotel room that night leave, and I agreed that it was the best idea to avoid fighting. Apparently, Ramon is actually an evil svengali, not a nice gentleman, who tricked us all. I like him even more.

Ally, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Where am I? Is this a teen message board?...

Clarke B., Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

We're trying to make it one.

Otis Wheeler, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

That'd be so way cooler than a music message board, I wish I was a teenager.

In all honestly, Clarke, I'm just trying to clear up something with a friend who has the wrong idea about something. I'd do it in email but I think he hates me so I figured doing it here maybe would make him not hate me. I tried to bring it back on topic, and even pointed out that my own mom called me a whorebag, but it didn't help. I'm really sorry.

So I still laugh when I think about this album cover. Right now, I am laughing, and I didn't even LOOK at it. I mean, it's easily the most ridiculous thing I've seen in all my days.

Ally, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Jesus Christ. Just change THE WHOLE TOPIC OF THE THREAD WHY DONT YOU

Mike Hanley, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

Jesus christ, you two, use email or IM or at LEAST ONE GODDAMNED THREAD.

Josh, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)

The cover: "Discovery" isn't 3 months old and it seems, ahem, "tacky- core" has already reacher something of a zenith. A bit premature, no?

Mitch Lastnamewithheld, Thursday, 7 June 2001 00:00 (twenty-four years ago)


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