The Jimmy Scott thread

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Ned has mentioned him before, but "Little" Jimmy Scott is not often mentioned around these parts. He has a residency in London this week, and I for one am very excited about the prospect. "The Source" is a classic album, and his version of "I'm Through With Love" is both unique and definitive. I don't know of any other performer whose voice so confuses and fascinates on the first listen.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Monday, 13 January 2003 12:20 (twenty-two years ago)

His "Falling In Love Is Wonderful" album is reissued today and I will definitely be getting it/writing about it on CoM. For the whole story behind this record, go to:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/features/story/0,11710,871041,00.html

Marcello Carlin, Monday, 13 January 2003 12:26 (twenty-two years ago)

Yay Marcello!

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Monday, 13 January 2003 12:30 (twenty-two years ago)

I so much wanted/expected to like him when I bought 'The Source' but for whatever reason I just didn't get it. Will give it another listen now everyone's raving about him again.

James Ball (James Ball), Monday, 13 January 2003 13:03 (twenty-two years ago)

I had the rare pleasure of seeing Jimmy Scott sing in Newport, RI a couple of years ago. He was there for a film festival, which showed a Bravo-produced documentary about his life. It was just Jimmy on a temporary raised stage (like they have at weddings) in a hotel conference room, with a guy on a spinet piano being the sole accompaniment. Just incredible -- he literally made people cry. A night I'll never forget.
I've always loved his "comeback" album, All the Way, especially his take on "Someone to Watch Over Me."

Jim M (jmcgaw), Monday, 13 January 2003 13:49 (twenty-two years ago)

Where can I get the Falling in Love is Wonderful CD? The only place I've found that sells it is www.rhinohandmade.com, but for $19.98!
I've searched everywhere else -- even GEMM -- but no luck.

Jim M (jmcgaw), Monday, 13 January 2003 14:01 (twenty-two years ago)

The last time I saw Lou Reed, at the Hammersmith Odeon for the 'Magic and Loss' tour, IIRC, Jimmy Scott came on for the encore. Our first reaction was of course "who is this hemaphrodite?"

Andrew L (Andrew L), Monday, 13 January 2003 14:14 (twenty-two years ago)

His "Falling In Love Is Wonderful" album is reissued today and I will definitely be getting it/writing about it on CoM.

Rah! For it's truly an amazing album.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Monday, 13 January 2003 14:18 (twenty-two years ago)

I began to play The Source for a friend last week, and got the familiar response: "This is a guy?!"

Falling in Love Is Wonderful is available on Amazon.co.uk. I guess Rhino couldn't (as yet) clear the U.S. rights except for a limited edition.

I've been a Jimmy Scott fan since 1991, when I was 13. I discovered the (Andy Paley-organized) Rage in Harlem soundtrack which had a title track sung by Jimmy in the style of his Savoy sides. It was right around this time that he was "rediscovered," signed to Reprise, and not long after appeared in the glorious final episode of Twin Peaks.

I saw him perform last year at the Old Town School of Folk Music in Chicago and he did not disappoint. The audience was about two-thirds upper-middle-aged blacks and a third under-30 hipsters. At the beginning Smith called an older woman in the audience, and outed her as someone he had travelled the chitlin circuit with back in the (he coughed here for effect) '40s. Scott looks an enormously fragile man, and at the outset I had some doubt that he could carry a show effectively for an hour or more. But carry it he did, with a little break to show off his band, for almost two hours as I recall.

Scott is nothing if not an intelligent stylist, an intelligent man, and he acknowledges that his voice does not have the range and suppleness it once had. He compensates for this remarkably by an extraordinary sense of pacing.

Anyways, for those unfamiliar with Jimmy, I'd recommend The Source and now Falling in Love Is Wonderful, both from a period where he was in full voice but also in command, enough to indulge himself. Of his comeback albums, I admit a weakness for Over the Rainbow from a few years ago.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 13 January 2003 16:01 (twenty-two years ago)

Sorry about the runaway italics.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 13 January 2003 16:03 (twenty-two years ago)

He gave a great interview with Terry Gross (NPR) a year or so back -- truly unique.

christoff (christoff), Monday, 13 January 2003 16:07 (twenty-two years ago)

amateurist-who was he in the final episode of twin peaks?
was it the old man who works in the bank vault?
anyway,the only thing i know of jimmy scott is his cover of nothing compares to you,which is oddly moving-he sounds like his voice is just about to give up,and the instrumentation is really sparse,but i remember really liking it
i've been meaning to find out more,so i'll have to add the recommendations from this thread to my list of things to look into...

robin (robin), Monday, 13 January 2003 18:43 (twenty-two years ago)

I found All the Way for $2 at someone's garage sale, and loved it, going to look into getting more of them. Has anyone heard Dream?

As for his voice sounding like a woman's, I like to think that he balances out Nina Simone, who I've occasionally mistaken for a man. Both beautiful singers, of course.

Sean Carruthers (SeanC), Monday, 13 January 2003 18:58 (twenty-two years ago)

In the last episode of Twin Peaks, Jimmy Scott is the featured attraction at the Black Lodge. He sings "Sycamore Trees," then disappears (literally).

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 13 January 2003 19:04 (twenty-two years ago)

jesus,i watched that about a month ago and only vaguely remember that...i was fairly freaked out by the whole episode,but i would have thought i would remember something like that...

robin (robin), Monday, 13 January 2003 19:29 (twenty-two years ago)

I mean the last episode of the second season, not the last episode of the first season--just to clarify.

Amateurist (amateurist), Monday, 13 January 2003 19:31 (twenty-two years ago)

They had a feature on him Friday night on late-night TV. I'd just been listening to Dream, by which I was (to my surprise) disappointed -- while I admire his phrasing, his intonation was just too erratic for my taste. But after seeing the program and realizing how old he is, how long he's been around, and all that he's gone through, perhaps I'll relisten with a more sympathetic ear.

By the way, if anyone else saw the program: the interviewer, early in the program, asked him about his condition -- "Tell us...a little bit about Kallman's Syndrome", that kind of thing. It was a question that was perhaps a bit leading, but not by any means pointedly so. I was distracted when Scott replied, but it sure sounded like the first thing out of his mouth was something about his penis and testicles, delivered without preamble or apology: I wonder if the interviewer was expecting him to be so direct! I was certainly surprised, but also impressed.

Phil (phil), Monday, 13 January 2003 20:17 (twenty-two years ago)

I really like Dream - it has the version of "I'm Through With Love" that I spoke about earlier. NB his phrasing is particularly erratic on this track, but that really makes it for me, perversely.

Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Monday, 13 January 2003 21:11 (twenty-two years ago)

Late bloomers like Scott and Pauline Kael give hope to procrastinators like me.

Pete Scholtes, Tuesday, 14 January 2003 01:33 (twenty-two years ago)

As for his voice sounding like a woman's, I like to think that he balances out Nina Simone, who I've occasionally mistaken for a man. Both beautiful singers, of course

Sean, you beat me to the punch. i was going to say "It sounds like he and Nina Simone traded voices"

JasonD (JasonD), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 01:50 (twenty-two years ago)

Why'd you have to bring Kael into this? (Makes gagging sounds.)

Amateurist (amateurist), Tuesday, 14 January 2003 01:55 (twenty-two years ago)

Here's a nice new release on Rhino Handmade:
http://www.rhinohandmade.com/covers243/7814.jpg

christoff (christoff), Wednesday, 15 January 2003 13:59 (twenty-two years ago)

four weeks pass...
so I might, might (meaning most likely not) be there, but are any of the NYC ILM folk gonna go see Jimmy play?

H (Heruy), Friday, 14 February 2003 03:09 (twenty-two years ago)

eleven months pass...
Revive!

I have been listening to Holding Back The Years. Shouldn't be good, but is. Amateurist is spot-on in saying that it is the pacing that distinguishes Jimmy.

@d@ml (nordicskilla), Wednesday, 11 February 2004 19:22 (twenty-one years ago)

I worked on a movie called "Scotch & Milk" back in '97 in which Jimmy played himself. Don't know if you can rent it, but if you're a JS fan you should. And don't worry - he sings.

Thea, Thursday, 12 February 2004 01:40 (twenty-one years ago)

Hey it's Thea. :-) Did you get yer Stereolab tickets?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 01:41 (twenty-one years ago)

KCRW's presenting that show so it's "work" for me. Boo hoo. Work. So I don't need to buy 'em. Grotesque, isn't it?

Thea, Thursday, 12 February 2004 01:44 (twenty-one years ago)

has anybody republished Jimmy McDonough's epic Voice article on Jimmy Scott? At the time I thought it was the best profile on a musician I'd ever read, but that was a long time ago. I'd like to take a look at it again.

I can't get into the 'comeback' albums, unfortunately. That first Savoy lp is stunning and there are a few killer singles on King.

sam., Thursday, 12 February 2004 02:49 (twenty-one years ago)

KCRW's presenting that show so it's "work" for me. Boo hoo. Work. So I don't need to buy 'em. Grotesque, isn't it?

Eh, just write off the Taco Mesa meal on the expense account. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 02:51 (twenty-one years ago)

Heh. Let me ask Ruth about that.

I should add that as penance I will be hanging posters at the venue. Usually a volunteer helps me with that but I don't want to snatch too many admissions from the hungry mouths of Stereolab fans.

Thea, Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:04 (twenty-one years ago)

Invite Ruth along! (I should revive the thread, it will be a good FAP excuse.) Also, were you able to point to EJL that his attendance will be a fine and good thing?

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:32 (twenty-one years ago)

Being a subtle fellow, EJL will have to be coaxed. I did mention as casually as possible an event going down in OC involving interpretations by one beloved group of musicians on themes of astrological incidents of the non-dairy variety and he perked up a little. Then I dropped the N.R. name, after which he made some complimentary remarks like "gentleman" and "scholar".

What is FAP?

Thea, Thursday, 12 February 2004 03:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Haha, that is very him.

FAP = fancy a pint. It's slang on this board because of the high concentration of London posters from the start, who all being able to readily reach one another via tube and train would start asking if people wanted to go to a pub for a drink = 'fancy a pint?' = FAP. Its usage is now international.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 04:04 (twenty-one years ago)

EJL? FAP? NR?

I'm new here.

samm, Thursday, 12 February 2004 06:52 (twenty-one years ago)

Welcome!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 12 February 2004 16:38 (twenty-one years ago)

There is a solid, relatively new biography of Jimmy Scott out there called "Faith in Time" by David Ritz. You can easily get it on Amazon.

Tab25, Thursday, 12 February 2004 19:54 (twenty-one years ago)

oh i'm wary of the david ritz ghost writing assembly line

was listening to the source last night

still think it's his finest moment

amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, 12 February 2004 21:34 (twenty-one years ago)

that David Ritz thing is a complete bore. Find that Voice article if you ever can. 1988, maybe...?

The Source is incredible, particularly Day by Day. How DOES he DO it???

samm, Friday, 13 February 2004 05:20 (twenty-one years ago)

david ritz: which aging r&b star's memories can i subject to my patented purple prose treatment this year?

yeah my fave on the source is 'exodus' partly because it's just so damned unlikely

amateur!st (amateurist), Friday, 13 February 2004 09:15 (twenty-one years ago)

I am watching a documentary on the man right now thanks to PBS. His voice REALLY caught me as I just had it on background-like cause he looked interesting and was talking about smoking weed w/another old dude. But, wow, I want to hear him in his prime.

christhamrin (christhamrin), Wednesday, 25 February 2004 09:48 (twenty-one years ago)

ten months pass...
In the last episode of Twin Peaks, Jimmy Scott is the featured attraction at the Black Lodge. He sings "Sycamore Trees," then disappears (literally).

And you can find him singing it on the Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me soundtrack album.

Edward Bax (EdBax), Thursday, 20 January 2005 15:06 (twenty years ago)

hullo my jimmy scott thread

.ada.m. (nordicskilla), Thursday, 20 January 2005 15:50 (twenty years ago)

one year passes...
just got "The Incredible Songs of Jimmy Scott" - pretty good, favorite is probably the opening track ("Sometimes I Feel Like a Motherless Child"), but the jazz schmaltz strings are not my favorite arranging technique. Where should I go from here...? Love the voice, the Twin Peaks spot, etc.

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 25 May 2006 22:49 (nineteen years ago)

is that a comp, a new album, what?

i would say that "the source" is the best place to start, and "all the way" is the best of his comeback period. the really early stuff (some w/lionel hampton's band) is great too, but more conventional.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 26 May 2006 02:31 (nineteen years ago)

Its this: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:u8de4j476way

(sorry, replace "Incredible" with "Fabulous" in my original post...)

Shakey Mo Collier (Shakey Mo Collier), Friday, 26 May 2006 15:00 (nineteen years ago)

oh, that's from the savoy stuff. it's good.

Amateur(ist) (Amateur(ist)), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:34 (nineteen years ago)

one year passes...

Falling In Love Is Wonderful.
Found a lone copy of this in one of my hometown shops today. Didn't leave it there, oh no:)

t**t, Thursday, 25 October 2007 17:17 (eighteen years ago)

one year passes...

any one recommendation I should start with? heard him via twin peaks and thought the song in the finale was incredible.

Local Garda, Saturday, 10 January 2009 20:08 (sixteen years ago)

one year passes...

would recommend the source as the place to start, as noted above.

by another name (amateurist), Monday, 10 May 2010 10:43 (fifteen years ago)

He's gonna be performing in DC in 2 weeks. I wonder how he is live at this point?

curmudgeon, Monday, 10 May 2010 13:44 (fifteen years ago)

My guess would be kinda fragile, and his vibrato is, how to describe this, wide? I'm still kicking myself for not seeing Bobby Blue Bland recently though, so I would say go; he's not getting any younger. Seeing artists like Ruth Brown and Champion Jack Dupree late in their life (when they certainly weren't 100%) was still, in retrospect, amazing.

He has a recent CD where he's covering "Sorry Seems To Be The Hardest Word" and "Nothing Compares 2U." !!!

I turn it up when I hear the banjo (Dan Peterson), Monday, 10 May 2010 16:46 (fifteen years ago)

there's a version he does of Duke Ellington's "Solitude" that is pretty off the charts amazing. Kinda messes me up, actually! guy can hit some *notes*!

tylerw, Monday, 10 May 2010 17:08 (fifteen years ago)

one year passes...

I know this is terrible, but every few month I check Wikipedia to see if he is still with us. See him live if you can!

dollar eye twinkling (admrl), Tuesday, 28 February 2012 16:07 (thirteen years ago)

does he still perform? I thought he was basically retired?

seeing him in early '00s was a highlight of my life for sure.

flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Wednesday, 29 February 2012 07:02 (thirteen years ago)

two years pass...

RIP

tylerw, Friday, 13 June 2014 14:36 (eleven years ago)

awwww man =(

Knew this day would come, but still. I LOVE this guy.

Oh I started this thread!

(maybe) (admrl), Friday, 13 June 2014 14:37 (eleven years ago)

yeah, 88, so he was getting up there. amazing, unbelievable singer.

tylerw, Friday, 13 June 2014 14:42 (eleven years ago)

Kid Congo Powers put it so well on Twitter today:

"Thank you for such beauty."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRYJbaxwJ20

Ned Raggett, Friday, 13 June 2014 15:35 (eleven years ago)

Saw him sing at the Newport Film Festival in 2000, right after a screening of “Bravo Profile’s Little Jimmy Scott: Why Was I Born?” He was less 10 feet away from me on a tiny raised platform in a small hotel conference room, with only a pianist accompanying him. The most emotionally naked performance I’ve ever seen. There were plenty of people in the audience who had never heard of this guy — they were there for the films, not the music — but several of them were in tears. RIP.

Jazzbo, Friday, 13 June 2014 15:45 (eleven years ago)

yeah i remember really listening to him for the first time and just thinking i wasn't really ready for the kind of emotion this guy was capable of putting across.

tylerw, Friday, 13 June 2014 15:46 (eleven years ago)

Ha, I guess I already told you all that up thread.

Jazzbo, Friday, 13 June 2014 15:47 (eleven years ago)

This.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4Y45k2u7Mw

Jazzbo, Friday, 13 June 2014 15:47 (eleven years ago)

:(

RIP

cwkiii, Friday, 13 June 2014 15:48 (eleven years ago)

can't seem to find that big jimmy scott profile in the village voice from the 80s anywhere online, though i think i read it somewhere a while back...

tylerw, Friday, 13 June 2014 16:29 (eleven years ago)

A reference to that article here, but I don't see the article:

http://www.jimmyscottofficialwebsite.org/sessions54.htm

Indeed, in the late 1980's, after spending some 20 years outside the music business, Scott reemerged as a powerful song stylist. His career was bolstered by both Jimmy McDonough's 1988 article on the singer in the Village Voice and Scott's rendition of the George and Ira Gershwin tune "Someone to Watch Over Me" at the 1991 funeral of rhythm and blues songwriter Doc Pomus, after which, according to Bazaar, he was signed to a five-album deal by the president of Sire Records, Seymour Stein. Since

curmudgeon, Friday, 13 June 2014 16:46 (eleven years ago)

AGGGHH RIP motherless child

Οὖτις, Friday, 13 June 2014 16:58 (eleven years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oT1GdJIzeQs

did click through tho on the money (Eazy), Friday, 13 June 2014 18:21 (eleven years ago)

ok i was SURE he died years ago

son of a lewd monk (Dr Morbius), Saturday, 14 June 2014 01:05 (eleven years ago)

don't really know what to say. very glad he found new audiences in his later years, and reconnected with old ones. saw him live in 2001 and while his voice as an instrument was somewhat diminished (although still instantly recognizable, not least for his idiosyncratic vibrato) his phrasing/pacing was still absolutely, stunningly singular.

here's a good representation of what he could do with a ballad (and not even a great one, in other hands):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4ADbt5P-4M

I dunno. (amateurist), Saturday, 14 June 2014 01:11 (eleven years ago)

jeez, nobody cares i guess :(

I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, 15 June 2014 23:05 (eleven years ago)

haven't heard that record -- from the 70s, I'm assuming from the cover? Almost sounds like it could be a Nina Simone track.

tylerw, Monday, 16 June 2014 14:48 (eleven years ago)

was lucky enough to have seen him about a handful of times since the early 00's. despite his diminishing health and voice in recent years, he still stunned to the last. gorgeously unique. a true loss.

vmajestic, Monday, 16 June 2014 21:53 (eleven years ago)

I started listening to him a couple of years ago, during a dark point in my life; his voice was too beautiful for words. I should get back into him again. I care, for sure.

rest in peace, Jimmy.

president of the people's republic of antarctica (Arctic Mindbath), Monday, 16 June 2014 23:04 (eleven years ago)

x-post--from wiki

Another album, The Source (1969), was not released until 2001.

curmudgeon, Tuesday, 17 June 2014 03:57 (eleven years ago)

haven't heard that record -- from the 70s, I'm assuming from the cover? Almost sounds like it could be a Nina Simone track.

― tylerw, Monday, June 16, 2014 9:48 AM (2 days ago) Bookmark Flag Post Permalink

late 60s. his best record IMO

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 09:16 (eleven years ago)

and it was released, then pulled from distribution b/c savoy records' threatened to sue atlantic (for no good reason as it turns out)

I dunno. (amateurist), Wednesday, 18 June 2014 09:17 (eleven years ago)

Sleazy Savoy record label head I believe

curmudgeon, Wednesday, 18 June 2014 16:27 (eleven years ago)

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_fQYx50xg0

Heavy Doors (jed_), Saturday, 4 March 2017 03:34 (eight years ago)

one year passes...

looks like an interesting movie

but did they end up processing his voice heavily in recording? :/

anyway, can someone explain this cover art:

http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61Xb9L6ql2L._SS500_.jpg

niels, Tuesday, 13 November 2018 13:23 (six years ago)


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